Building an ALUMINUM Sailboat Pt. 14: Interior - Cherry or Mahogany? | EP 234
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ก.ค. 2024
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This time on Distant Shores, we take you to the Netherlands, to Enksail Yachts, to show you the interesting method being used to construct the interior of our new Orion 49 sailboat. We need to come to a decision on the wood finish for our cabinetry - we're divided on whether it should be cherry or mahogany! A tour of a wood veneer manufacturing facility helps us make a decision and we learn how veneered plywood for yachts is constructed. What wood do we choose and why? Stay tuned to find out…
00:00 Introduction
00:53 How to build a sailboat interior
01:58 Plywood manufacturer Kuiper Holland
02:20 Types of wood for boatbuilding
04:00 Custom plywood for boats
04:35 The Veneer Department
05:59 Different types of veneer - which is the best veneer?
07:41 A Book of Veneer
08:43 Strength of wood and veneer
09:21 Gluing veneer together into a sheet
10:06 How much plywood is needed to build a 49 foot sailboat?
11:31 Mahogany wood reflects light
12:13 Sapele Mahogany
13:20 Cherry of Mahogany (Sapele)?
15:53 We come to a decision on the wood for the interior!
16:21 Open Day in Makkum Netherlands - Enksail Yachts
16:55 Credits
17:19 Bonus: Wood fashion
⛵️ COME AND VIEW "DISTANT SHORES IV" AT OPEN YARD DAY IN MAKKUM, NETHERLANDS ⛵️
DATE: Saturday, April 22, 2023
TIME: 10:00 AM until 4:00 PM (Registration required for viewing)
ADVANCE REGISTRATION: info@gebrvanenkhuizen.nl
LOCATION: Gebroeders van Enkhuizen Shipyard, Stranwei 11, 8754 HA Makkum, Netherlands
WEBSITE: enksail.nl
Makkum is a town of boat builders and every spring many builders participate in a collaborative Open Yard Day. This year the event falls on Saturday April 22, 2023 and Paul will be at the Gebroeders van Enkhuizen Shipyard to show attendees our Enksail Orion 49, Distant Shores IV, under construction. He's happy to answer your questions about the boat and his experience building with Enksail Yachts.
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Sheryl and Paul, We found this video to be absolutely captivating. Well done! Certainly, we have totally enjoyed and appreciated the videos on the design and construction of the aluminum hull and topsides, but this was different. What a great guide you had for this video. He obviously loves his work and it shows. By the way, I always prefer mahogany over cherry. Sorry Sheryl.
Thanks Steve, Yes Hans is very enthusiastic with his job. Imagine getting to work with all that lovely wood!
What an education on wood veneer. I think you made a wise choice for the veneer and it will greatly enhance the warmth and comfort of the below decks. Really looking forward to seeing the finished boat. Take care and sail on.
Glad you liked it Scott! Yes I learned a lot in the tour as well. We're looking forward t seeing it come together with the wood. Next weekend I'm headed over to the factory to see the latest progress!
Very cool.... we chose ashe... very blonde but very bright! We love it... the mahogany boat we were on was very dark inside. But, every boat is different
Who knew that veneer was so interesting?! What a great guide Hans was, I love listening to knowledgeable people who are experienced in their industry and enthusiastic to talk about it. Many thanks for a great episode!
So glad you enjoyed this video, Michael! You're right about Hans being a great guide. 👍🏻
Hey hey Paul & Sheryl... yet again... another informative and entertaining vid on your new 'beast' of a boat... Laff... anyway my favorite veneer is the one I have on my old Islander P40... the original critiques of my boat some 30 years ago were not kind... after the education gotten from this vid I feel much better about having veneer bulkheads, drawers, stowage, galley and all the other places on my boat that is veneer covered... (easy to clean)... I'm thrilled at what I have been honored to review in all of your vids on DSIV... You two are the sailing/boating GOAT... Notwithstanding: in respect to Sheryl I would have liked to seen the Cherry albeit in view of practicality... Fair Winds...
Hey Ron! Its great having you aboard! I'll tell Sheryl you were voting cherry as well :-) I have actually built quite a few pieces of furniture with cherry years ago because I also like the colour. But it is difficult to work... planes catch on the grain since the grains are more wavy than other woods...
I work with wood, furniture and boats all my life. Cherry is the most beautiful, intricate wood on this planet...for a house piece of furniture. In your case your piece of furniture is 50’ large. The mahogany will give you an incredible uniformity, warmth and colour stability over the whole boat. I agree with your choice! And yes the mahogany reflection in different lights is incredible. Beautiful video. Thank you guys as always. We have a 43 GulfStar in Georgian Bay.
Thanks for your knowledgable comments!
Very educational - thank you. Personally I would select a lighter material. Maple? - to lighten up the room, and keep the interior as bright as possible - overall.
There will be white paneling along the hull to add brightness with the contrasting darker sapele mahogany on the bulkheads and furniture so we are hoping it will still feel quite light. We had light oak throughout the interior of our last boat so are looking something a little different this time.
Awesome video and never seen anything like it before.
The man definitely knows his onions(35 plus years experience) and very pleasant.
Thank you for sharing with us such knowledge🙏 very informative video and unique💓💯👌👍👏
I don't know much but I grew up with mahogany as in dinning table, chairs, cabinets even bed frame as I'm the lucky keeper of my grand parent's furniture which I inherited from my dad (may he rest in peace🙏 AMEN)
3th generation and still as good as new and that's all I needed to know so I'll never need to make a choice between mahogany and any other types of wood. BUT I'll make sure Sheryl gets her favourite red cherry 🍒 in places that won't be exposed to the sun like in the bedroom...
Would love to attend but unfortunately I can't due to my work as I'm just back from my winter holidays.
I wish you the very BEST of LUCK and can't wait for the next stage/video.
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I think you made the right choice who chose Mahogany 👍👍👏👏/Rolf
I hope Hans has children who share his love of wood, eager to carry forward their grandfather's dream. He is a treasure of knowledge. Hans, thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge and love of wood. Fascinating episode, Paul and Sheryl. Happy Easter
Well said!
Thank you for a fantastic tour, which brought back memories. 40 years ago my first job after university allowed me the privilege to work extensively with veneers, sapele, kaya, teak, oak, maple, even rosewood. What a joy it must be to see your new boat in such capable hands. I am now refitting a cruising boat with cherry harvested on family land which has its own charm.
Most of the time, TH-cam channels that stray away from their usual focus fail to pull off compelling episodes. Not this one! Really interesting and informative. Great job guys!
So glad you enjoyed this episode, Ned!
Great education! Thanks
My heart sank when you said Mahogany ........... cherry is one of the most beautiful of timbers and as a cabinetmaker, it's always been my favourite. We are however all different in tastes and I'm sure your mahogany interior will look great .......... but not as nice as cherry 😀😀😀
have to agree - plus, getting reminded of it 'every' day! ouch!
Having worked in the superyacht industry, I have become completely turned off by the use of slow growth tropical woods being cut down to make toilet seats, though at least with veneer, a tree goes a long way. Plenty of more sustainable choices like Larch and Firs and Spruces to choose from. No one wants to talk about the environmental damage being done in these tropical forests, and before anyone says it, the "sustainable source" certificates are easily bought.
yes, 100% agree! how about hemp use as well...very sustainable, could replace much of the fresh cutting of forests.
Absolutely agree, everyone yammers on about sustainably sourced....not likely, just makes buyers feel better about themselves. Also our forests are the lungs of the planet, there are other, lower impact materials that can be used as surface finishes. A channel like this, championing new technologies, should have at least have paid lip service to other materials, instead of going old world colonial in its trim out.
Use bamboo. Then again they are American so it will be the worst they can get: Slow growing tropical hardwoods.
Great video....I have cherry veneer aboard our Catana 471(it was an optional extra by a previous owner) and after 20 years of age, including our family sailing 3/4 around the world, I would not change it....Keep fighting for Cherry!!!
yes!!! agree!
Solid mahogany is the best choice for yachts. ❤ Build the best ! 😊
As a canuck, I’ve heard the terms crown cut and quarter cut for years, but never quite understood what was what….Thanks to Hans and yourselves for providing a clear explanation. That place must have smelled amazing. Fascinating!
It was the same for me (Sheryl here). I knew the terms crown cut and quarter cut but was never too clear on how they differed. Yes, all that wood smelled wonderful!
The best Dutch craftmanship !!!
Wowww . . . Almost Magical to see and know such PROFESSIONALISM.
Glad to know my Forefathers stems from HOLLAND.
That was fascinating!!
Captivating episode, we can't thank you enough for this enlightening us on these different veneers.
I love watching you build your boat. I'm from the Netherlands myself and I think it's nice to see the companies and surroundings where they come. keep us posted and thanks.
Beautiful choice.
I would have liked to see more of the process. Do they start with the raw logs? How do the extract the thin veneers? How do the attach the strips of veneer together to make plywood sized sheets without a huge glue mess? Do they make the whole sandwich or do they buy ply and all they do is attach veneers?
All good questions, Capt. Mike. I don't believe they cut the veneers themselves but buy from suppliers around the world. However the do make the veneer panels with a thin layer of heat sensitive glue so there is no mess. The guy making the "book face" veneer panels was assembling the pieces and feeding them into the heat machine. I believe they just attach the veneers to plywood, not create the plywood.
That would be a light color material, it looks more friendly/clean and the cabin also looks bigger then a dark material. But I´m also from the nordic, we like it "clean" and friendly.
It’s going to be gorgeous!
Very interesting segment about wood. Thanks!
Really interesting, thank you
Fascinating process
EXCELLENT CHOICE, THAT MAHOGANY IS SOOOOO BEAUTIFUL, THANKS FOR THE SUPER INFORMATIVE VIDEO, I LEARNED SO MUCH
For fine furniture, it's hard to beat cherry. It tends to darken with age and in so doing becomes richer in color. It also makes fantastic end-grain cutting boards. But you made the right choice for a boat.
Superb video, so interesting and an education. Thank you.
Your choice will be lovely!
That will look amazing.
beautiful choice! mmm wish it was my boat...with cherry
So educational!
Many woods darken over time. I believe you made the right choice. Hans is right about cherry. It too is a beautiful wood, but much like walnut it has many white/beige patches often in the grain. It really creates a problem because people hate the beige strips often in your chosen areas. That’s why so many uses use a very dark stain to attempt to cover/mask the beige drip blemishes.
Mahogany often does not have those challenges (more consistent) and typically doesn’t need stain since it so beautiful in natural appearance. Not all mahogany is sapele. There are many varieties. Most are very naturally beautiful albeit most have a red tone. To quickly get an idea of raw mahogany veneer natural color just lick your finger and wipe on veneer. You will see a darker Rich brown/reddish color….. beautiful. 👍😊
Reminds me more of guitar building than boats. Just beautiful pieces you have chosen. Thanks for sharing.
beautiful wood!!!
Fantastic video and great choice! Keep the videos coming, I really enjoy this series.
YES!!! Magagony of course. It is far and more bostlike than the sherry and all the others clear Woods that make a boat look like a caravan! Mahagony or teak for boats! So , good choice 👏👌💐
Hello Paul, it was a pleasure meeting you on Monday at the Gosport Ferry to Portsmouth (we were a group of hour returning from the Channel Islands pretty much beaten up but happy) . Looking forward to watching the interior of the boat. Best, Tevfik
Thanks TA yes I remember you! It did sound like a very exciting sail!
beautiful!
The sapele you chose is gorgeous.
THANK YOU great info.
Thankyou 👍
First and foremost, I agree with your choice for the veneer. What a wonderful person he was for his knowledge and general personality, and his willingness to to take the time discuss everything. Great episode.
Fantastic episode. Captivating listening to Hans. Wow - if I ever have a custom boat built, the Netherlands will be the place to have it done.
This was very interesting thank you 😊
Watched until the end - still feel cherry is the eye candy of any interior. You blew it! ;o))))
Thank you
Good choice!
A successful marriage is one compromises, give and take. As long as you are both informed and comfortable, you’ll like/love it or agree to live with it.
It seems you have achieved this and are well informed. I also learned a few things.
Thanks for taking us along.
I think you made the right choice. Beautiful panels with a lot of life in them. Personally I like birch with a lot of curvy lines and lighter colour.
Wood dude is amazing! Great video!
Great choice
Looks great what an amazing experience and what a knowledge gain!
Excellent
Great video. I learned a lot! A good choice I’d say. 😊
She's gonna be a beauty!
Yes a good choice, the Cherry would change color or tone as time goes by, some of the boat would have lighter shades than other parts....so IMO you did good with your choice
a fascinating video...
While I agree with Tony regarding light and modern interior, if you choose wood, I would absolutely use Cherry.
Mahogany is too stogy while Cherry is a nice crossover wood.
It lends itself well to a modern design while retaining the warmth of wood.
agree!
Great choice, we have our full yacht with sapele mahogany, and its gorgeous even after years of use. you won't regret that choice
Hi, the mahogany looks more elegant and peaceful..
Wow, this was incredibly fun to watch. You chose a very nice tree. Can't wait to see the continuation. Love from Norway
verry interesting episode. 👍
What a great video, and so educational. And got made a good choice with the mahogany!
It’s great you can pick what you like the best for your boat. I find it amazing how thin it is.
Another fascinating step in the construction of D S 4 ! Thanks for sharing this with us. : - )
My own preference is for teak and I have seen it used for some breathtakingly beautiful yacht interiors.
Very informative and interesting tour. Even boatbuilder Ronald was all ears. Just the tidbit that the 'best' cuts can be so perfect as to look fake is something one wouldn't initially think about. But I missed seeing the lamination process itself.
I have enjoyed your channel and especially the boat build. I like the look of cherry, and love Sapele. Enjoy.
In my mind Mahogany = cutting down rainforest. I noticed you said this species is "more sustainable" not "sustainable". Between those two I'd have picked cherry. The color change is like a fine wine. Personally my favorite is alder and that is what we used in our new house 6 years ago. It's light in tone and we like the light it reflects inside during our dark winter days in the PNW.
yes! and alder is one of my favs - it's also great for saunas
good choice ..very intersting vid..
I really appreciate the videos of the process of building the new boat. The cluster of boat builders in Makkum seems very professional! Greetings from Svalbard.
Thanks, Mats! We are planning to visit Svalbard summer 2024 with Distant Shores IV so hope to see you there.
Great video! I think you chose wisely
Thanks Greg!
That's beutiful wood!
Sapele is def the right choice. Sweden Yachts used it and our boat (SY) which we have owned 16 yrs is fitted out using Sapele and it has a beautiful warmth to it. Thank god they didn’t offer you oak, it looks awful! Nice boat by the way, you def went to the right Country!
Did you make the right choice? I don't think any of your options are a wrong choice. Its a personal choice and I think what you chose is beautiful. This is a very interesting episode. Look forward to seeing the progress.
Good point. So glad you enjoyed this episode!
Our PDQ32 has cherry and it certainly has faded dramatically in areas of direct sunlight exposure. I think the Mahogany is a great choice.
Thanks for your feedback, Ken. We appreciate you sharing your personal experience with a cherry interior on your PDQ32.
PDQ 32 is rated as a bluewater boat by some authorities, which surprises me a little, I really like PDQ.
@@UUBrahman one did sail from the USA to Australia….
Those veneers are gorgeous! A really informative episode of DS-TV. The new yacht is going to look amazing, I must say it is 100% plywood and now MDF on a boat. MDF gets destroyed so easily by moisture I would keep it dedicated to the "land yacht world" --> homes. Thanks for sharing!
This was a very interesting and informative video for your boat build and thank you for sharing this with us. If I had to choose what type of veneer to use I would choose cherry for a land-based Recreational Vehicle (RV), but I would ALWAYS go with the Mahogany for water based boats like yours will be. The inside of a Fifth Wheel RV, like our 42 footer, doesn’t get near as much sun as your boat will get traveling wherever you go so it wouldn’t change as much as it would on a boat. Can’t wait to see the panels installed in your boat.
Wow nice and useful information to Thanx😊 Greetings elzo
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks Elzo!
lots of pretty woodgrains!
By the way we meet years ago in Panama Shelter bay Marina, you were seating on a Garcia that you recently purchased , from your previous Catamaran, Im a delivery Captain an in that occasion, was in my way to Ecuador , I wish you guys the best, that boat os going to be just wonderful , congratulations 🙏
Wow, great education on that topic! At first, I was thinking Cherry because I just love that wood but his points were excellent and you can get such variability from light reds to blonde and it can change over time in the sun. You made the right choice! Can't wait to see it installed.
Thank you! Cheers!
Your boat build video series has helped us in deciding on our own aluminum boat design and build. Thanks very much!
Great to hear! What have you decided on George?
@@DistantShoresTV Only final decision is the material, aluminum. We have finalists in each category for, hull, rig, propulsion, systems, interior design. So a lot of work to do yet, before approaching an architect and builder.
We are looking forward to seeing your new boat
Just started watching. Cherry all day long!!! :o)
Great episode, and truly interesting to know the processes and the characteristics of each wood. Even if I prefer lighter colors in the boats however I think that your choice is surely the safer and wiser, given the stability of the mahogany color. Great to see the progress of your new boat. 👍
Thanks for comments! We had light wood on our last boat - oak. We really liked it but thought we would try something different this time.
Depends whether you like light or dark colors/interiors. The Sapele mahogany is beautiful.
Thanks for a great video. Very informative and well done!
Please make a video about the paint process, durability, maintenance, etc.
Interesting and educational topic on building boat interiors and wood selection. I had my boat's interior built from Ash as a light-coloured strong wood. and 4-inch Kaury for the nav table and countertop trim. SV Skoiern IV
Nice!
Now if you use a Red Oak stain on the Sympelly Mahogany it well bring out more of the Red tones in the wood. It looks fantastic. And it gives you the color of Cherry wood. We did that in our kitchen and both bathrooms in our home. I wish I could show ya'll some pictures of the cabinets.
Thank You for this week's video.
Until next time, Aloha from the Big Island of Hawaii!
Seen a couple Hans Christians and the mahogany was regal looking, nice choice
Very interesting video, I did not know how much went into veneer!
I am a sucker for Cherry.
Sheryl you won !!! Mahogany is better, that specific type👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
I’m a woodworker and have used sepelie and lots of projects and it’s beautiful
You made the right choice! Both woods are beautiful, but mahogany is probably better for the long term. I am typing this as I sit at a mahogany typing table I made back in college days before computers. What a coincidence.
We always enjoy the videos about the construction of our adopted boat. Thank you so much for sharing. Its the next best thing to being there.
Oh that's so cool! Thanks for your kind words.