my shift partner and i molded the very first stubby at WS way back in winter 97, oak creek colorado. we had trouble with bubbles for a little while if i remember correctly. cab letters in the serial#. very popular boat right from the start. halley's comet was blazing in the sky that whole winter.
I wish we had these rotomolded beauties back in the 70's when everything was wood, or the newfangled fiberglass. Wood may have survived that pin, but 'glass would have broken up most likely.
@@norbo002 Hell yeah- I've been rocking Diablo models since the mid 1990's. Was creeking in a Salto but have since graduated to more modern designs. Yeah that green Salto Evo is the shit!
@@heschum2449 I hope not. I been on whitewater four decades. These days, what turns me off are the people. I'm cool w/ the hazards of the river, but I shouldn't have to count my companions among those hazards. More of a soloist now.
Blanket statements like yours are worthless. Pack rafts are great for certain applications, even class V *with a Qualified paddler* but the river has a trap or potential situation to snare any type of craft. Its the human in the boat, their skills, experience and judgement that determines the outcome. But even this can be over ruled by the river and random chance. Stay alive.
@@jpwaterman5104 There are few people as qualified to make this statement as I am. I have packrafted about a 150 creeks (solo), about a 100 exploratory steep, manky woodfests too, and I creek boated many more as well. My statement is true. If you are agile, packrafts are a good 10 times less likely to pin then hardshells on rocks, and about 5 times less likely to pin on wood....while creeking. In this case a sub 8' packraft would not have pinned between the walls. The kayak paddler here could have been pinned and trapped underwater and drowned inside his rigid plastic entrapment hazard.
@vv109 some packrafts are also far more durable in the steep mank than hardshell creekers. For example, the 400 denier vectran boats with the ballistic nylon overlaying the vectran bottom. Also the 1000 denier PVC Recon with the 800 denier vectran overlay. Kokopelli is also going to start selling a boat made entirely out of ballistic nylon.
The guy in the yellow kayak that goes under them is amazing
The WS Stubby!!! A classic boat. I still have one. :-) Nice job staying calm and focused!
Great recovery. Calm and collected throughout. Could have turned into a real mess.
River be like: "Hold up a few while I check out this cool Stubby."
Very impressed by the calm and focused work. Seemed like a situation where you would be forgiven for panicking. Well done!
Definitely good save! Good backup you had there.
A Stubby! Haven't seen one of those in awhile.
„Ja aussteigen ist scheiße“ geniales Ding 😂
my shift partner and i molded the very first stubby at WS way back in winter 97, oak creek colorado. we had trouble with bubbles for a little while if i remember correctly. cab letters in the serial#. very popular boat right from the start. halley's comet was blazing in the sky that whole winter.
Then you may know the guy here. He was working for ws as well ;)
@@heschum2449 i loved that job, then they got bought by wilderness systems and left co, it really killed the kayak culture in the area.
halley's comet wasn't
Den Mann im grünen Boot bringt nix aus der Ruhe. Sauber gemacht.
I wish we had these rotomolded beauties back in the 70's when everything was wood, or the newfangled fiberglass. Wood may have survived that pin, but 'glass would have broken up most likely.
I only did river RAFTING! I RESPECT YOU GUYS SO MUCH! CHARGE IT!!
oh.. so exiting, I couldn't keep it.. just by watching it, while sitting on the couch
nice footage for a carnage reel
EIN ZWEI DREI !!!!
Schisse.
Wow. Wave sport “stubby”. When’s the last time you saw one of those?
25 years ago for me!!
Love the Yewnivers
Looks safe!
So crazy.....
Well done! Is this an Eskimo kayak?
Yes one of the last Salto Evolution made with the blow method. I guess it will last longer then my career....
@@heschum2449 I have a Diablo. Old but quite indestructible - and fun!
@@norbo002 Hell yeah- I've been rocking Diablo models since the mid 1990's. Was creeking in a Salto but have since graduated to more modern designs. Yeah that green Salto Evo is the shit!
@@heschum2449 I hope not. I been on whitewater four decades. These days, what turns me off are the people. I'm cool w/ the hazards of the river, but I shouldn't have to count my companions among those hazards. More of a soloist now.
The best
eins zwei drei .. come on Stubby
What about that swimmer ?
You see him in the same eddy we are in the end. He was fine.
I would eject immediately! Have seen boats bend and break both legs in these situations.
I would have bailed much sooner due to this risk. Nothing down river so swimming was no problem.
@@domesticterrorist483 Exactly what I was thinking.
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Apparently not stubby enough
Respekt für die ruhige und Nerven bewahrende Reaktion, aber aussteigen wäre schon eine Alternative, so schlimm ist schwimmen nun auch nicht
Was ist mit Unterspülungen in den Wänden?
Running things abit to close there. The fact you even had a swimmer behind you was lucky to fuck under both boats shows a lack of river leadership.
A German schisse video!!
This why you packraft. They can handle class V whitewater now, and they are much less likely to pin nor get entrapped inside the boat.
Blanket statements like yours are worthless. Pack rafts are great for certain applications, even class V *with a Qualified paddler* but the river has a trap or potential situation to snare any type of craft. Its the human in the boat, their skills, experience and judgement that determines the outcome. But even this can be over ruled by the river and random chance. Stay alive.
@@jpwaterman5104 There are few people as qualified to make this statement as I am. I have packrafted about a 150 creeks (solo), about a 100 exploratory steep, manky woodfests too, and I creek boated many more as well. My statement is true. If you are agile, packrafts are a good 10 times less likely to pin then hardshells on rocks, and about 5 times less likely to pin on wood....while creeking. In this case a sub 8' packraft would not have pinned between the walls. The kayak paddler here could have been pinned and trapped underwater and drowned inside his rigid plastic entrapment hazard.
@vv109 you can roll in an Alpacka Valkyrie just as easily as in a hardshell, even hand rolling. It can handle most class V bigwater fine.
@vv109 some packrafts are also far more durable in the steep mank than hardshell creekers. For example, the 400 denier vectran boats with the ballistic nylon overlaying the vectran bottom. Also the 1000 denier PVC Recon with the 800 denier vectran overlay. Kokopelli is also going to start selling a boat made entirely out of ballistic nylon.
He called him- Du Scheisse! To compliment him in a german way at the end!