He is a pro actor he definately knows what to do to prepare and what it will do his career if he flops at a batman. He of all people will not want to portray a lousy version of batman
i would still like to see a batman who read the bob kane and bill finger run. tobey maguire read the first 100 issues of spider-man. why cant someone do the same for batman? this is still good enough though.
@@jeromesimon8916 you interpreted what I said as being upset? I had him on my wishlist to be cast back when this film was still rumoured in 2018 knowing full well he might not have grown up a batman fan.
I think he's the only actor who's played Batman and is also a Batman fan, Keaton doesnt give a damn about comics and Affleck said the same and that he only took the role to please his kids.
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@@pats3212 Keaton & Affleck did fantastic interpretations. Being a fan of the comics doesn't definitively constitute an actor the sole right to play Batman, that criteria is daft. If the script is able to stand alone, then that should be enough. I'm a fan of the comics and I have no problem with whether they give a damn or not. I will give Pattinson an extra bit of credit in that he's the only one to mention Mask of the Phantasm as an influence. That's awesome.
Nice to see a Batman actor talk about a book besides Long Halloween or Year One. I grew up on Legends of the Dark Knight (Shaman, Venom, etc.), and those darker depictions of Batman shaped my view of what Batman should be like. Really awesome to see Pattinson evoke Shaman as one of his inspirations.
THANK YOU. Give. Us. Gothic. Batman. Ppl are ready for it. Stop with Joker and Catwoman. No Hush, you F-d up Matt Reeves and combined Riddler and Tommy Elliot like they did in the animated Hush movie, just in a different way. Move on. •Mad Monk •Cornelius Stirk •Hugo Strange & the Monster Men •Clayface •Scarface •Pyg Give us ALL NEW villains GOSHDANGIT
@@Zton-yn4kc And in the third act something happens that I think will be very surprising and could have potential in the second film. Won't say what it is, but it's awesome and looks like it comes from Legends material. :D
Man, he's actually done his homework about the character and is a genuine fan. Really looking forward to his portrayal of Bruce and Batman. Rob's a great actor.
How do you know? He is a good actor. His knowledge could be scripted. Now to this you say, wtf? What would even make you say such a thing. It's because I fell for this from other actors and the like. You listen to them and you think omg, this guy is an incredible fan. And it seems from the heart. But then they say something wrong - totally wrong - that no genuine fan with that kind of knowledge would ever say. And that's when it hits you. He's just delivering a script and the research done to write the script made a mistake. A genuine fan would have caught it. He's an actor. It's Hollywood. He's here to sell his studios movie. His knowledge may not be genuine as you might think. Still I hope you enjoy the movie.
He is a fan of the novels hope it translates into the portrayal well in the film. I suspect it would there are so many talented people in this film. Might be one of the best ones yet
@@jeromesimon8916 I'm excited to see him in it! I saw an interview where he said it was his idea to go with the extra punches after the thug is unconscious (casting is such an art in itself). There are so many revolving parts in a movie, they can do amazing takes and then the director doesn't use them for whatever reason. I don't think that's happening here, looks like Matt Reeves has done a tremendous job.
I honestly think they should do more then 3 if rob wants to. 5 would be awesome cause that'd mean we'd have the same batman for a while and that's the way I want it
i would still like to see a batman who read the bob kane and bill finger run. tobey maguire read the first 100 issues of spider-man. why cant someone do the same for batman? this is still good enough though.
He could've brought up Dark Knight Returns or Year One, and he could've gotten that easy comic street cred. But he mentioned _Batman: Shaman,_ a series even most modern Batman fans don't know...Pair that with the fact that Matt Reeves based the movie off of Batman: Ego, another book not known by many, and I can see why the movie and the people who worked on it resonate with Bat fans so much.
@@martinchatz7346 unfortunately, DC hasn’t kept it in print. Unless you want to spend an arm and leg on the original trade paperback, might be best to read the single issues online. BUT IT IS INCREDIBLY WORTH IT!
@@ryanoseguera1207 oh I’ll find it trust me finding rare comics is one thing I’m great at 😉 imma read it then do a review over it with a mukbang on my channel
@@martinchatz7346 if you have any local comic shops or particularly second hand sellers like a flea market you may be able to find a copy. Its how I got mine ages ago
Damn. Here's an actor who did his homework. I just came from seeing this movie for the second time, amazed once again by Rob's performance. I can solidly say he captured Batman in a way no one else has. Absolutely my favorite live action portrayal of the character.
The way he talks about Batman being this sort of mystic shaman kind of character in his presence really makes sense now that I think back on those scenes of how he enters scenes with the cops around. Guy really did some deep research for his role.
It’s absolutely insane to me that there was any question of whether or not he could play Batman. He is a world class actor. Clearly has done his homework. Brilliant performance.
Yeah I watched his film and instantly knew mid way through it was my favorite Batman adaptation yet. All my friends were like “idk that’s kinda bold to say” Patterson’s 3 minute interview here about how he tried to build the character just proves the passion and how fucking dedicated he was to making this the best Batman we’ve seen.
I never thought anyone would be able to topple Christian Bale as my favourite Batman - I grew up watching the Nolan trilogy. When I thought about Batman, those movies were the first thing I thought of. Pattinson's performance absolutely demolished that. He is hands-down my favourite Batman and Serkis is my favourite Alfred.
Few people are misunderstanding what Rob says. Yes, he says that Bruce wears the batsuit maybe he thinks it gives him some power. People should understand Bruce Wayne still had lot of psychological issues in his early years as Batman from that night onwards. He shown he is somewhat unstable in those times. So, may be Bruce might have thought that. Also, Bruce is always felt comfortable as Batman and in batsuit than going out as playboy billionaire.
Exactly, Batman in comics was iterated so many times so those fans who are not open minded for different interpretations of the character they will feel like someone is attacking "his point of view" how Bruce / Batman is portrayed.
I am sorry but Batman never dressed up as a bat because he thought the suit gave him extra powers or he thought the suit would devour him. There is not a single comic where that happens. Pattinson is pretentious and he didnt understand those comics. Bruce Wayne didn’t decide to walk-or swoop-around the streets of Gotham in a bat costume because he actually thought the suit gave him powers or devoured him. Wayne started dressing as Batman because he had a specific purpose in mind: to disguise his identity when he fought criminals. He also wanted his disguise to serve another function: to evoke fear in criminals. Additionally, Batman’s use of his attire is analogous to police officers wearing their uniform, or butlers wearing their uniform, when on duty. Uniforms (of which his costume is one) signal what the wearer’s role is. If you see someone in a police uniform, you expect certain kinds of behavior: If the officer pulls a gun and points it at someone running, it will likely mean something different to you then if the gun-holder wasn’t wearing that uniform. The uniform immediately conveys context to understand the wearer’s behavior.
@@Splinter07 Noone is attacking it. We are just saying how pattinson understands batman is not who batman is at his core. At this point, it feels like a separate character
Grant Morrison (famous batman author) on Batman's mental health: "I never really subscribed to the idea that Bruce was insane or unhealthy. As I've said before, Bruce Wayne's physical and psychological training regimes (including advanced meditation techniques) would tend to encourage a fairly balanced and healthy personality. Bruce Wayne would have gone mad if he HADN'T dressed as a bat and found a startling way to channel the grief, guilt and helplessness he felt after the death of his parents. Without Batman, Bruce would be truly screwed-up but with Batman he becomes mythic, more than human and genuinely useful to his community. I believe he began to slay his demons the moment he became a demon."
Dr. Travis langley (a real life psychologist), in chapter 14, called "The Assessment", of his book, says in very clear terms that Batman has no specific illness and is not insane or has any kind of mental issues. This is an excerpt from the chapter 14 of his book (the assessment) word for word without paraphrasing:- "Is he psychotic, homicidal, suicidal or gravely disabled? No. Does he have post traumatic disorder?? Even though he shows some symptoms, No. Does he have multiple personality disorder?? Even if that were the correct name for the disorder, no, that one's so far off the target, it's ridiculous. He is the one man who plays several roles and brings different characteristics to different situations with full awareness and memory of what he's doing. How about some sort of obsessive condition? No, no more so than the most driven athletes, activists and artists who make great sacrifices to fulfil their callings in life. If he were compulsive, he would have too little controls over his actions to function so effectively and for so long. People can have personality shortcomings without fitting a psychiatric diagnosis. Just to repeat, Dr. Langley says *NO TO PTSD, OCD, PSYCHOSIS, DISSOCIATIVE IDENTITY DISORDER*
Robert Pattinson clearly know more about Batman than 99% of the viewing audience. I mean, be honest. How many people have actually read one Batman comic let alone five?
BTW There is so many better comics than the one he mentioned from the series "LEGENDS OF THE DARK KNIGHT" run . They must have given Robert a few titles to please the "nerds". They definitely used CGI to give Pattinson the build and muscles to pull off Batman. Because no one losses that much mass that quickly.
@@monotech20.14 inaccurate. It's not u heard of for one to lose both bulk and mass after obtaining it. In this situation, Pattinson, who is very slim and has openly talked about hating exercise, had to stick to an extreme lean protein (white fish and lemon) diet and daily workout routine. Once he finished filming I'm sure he immediately went back to his old lifestyle. Remember the movie completed filming back in the middle of 2021. That's plenty of time to lose whatever mass he gained.
The man was an absolutely amazing batman and Bruce... just an imposing figure but cold and calculated... with a sense of being on the edge. I loved the film!
I’m genuinely and pleasantly surprised with Rob’s comic knowledge and understanding of Batman. I’ll be honest, I had never even heard of Shaman before, (but now I’m gonna go read it) but the fact that he’s taking obscure content and looking at it like “well this is a different approach to the mindset of being Batman” really shows that he’s a great comic fan who is able to debate and understand the complexities of Bruce Wayne and The Batman that some movies and even comics may not get. He reminds me of Henry Cavill talking about Geralt during his take on The Witcher. I’m so ready to see this movie, man
Dude it's always great when these actor's actually read up on the IP they're stepping into. It shows a massive amount of respect for both the craft and the fans. And it shows in this film. The love and passion is all over the screen in this movie. Despite some plot issues, especially towards the end, it's easily one of the best Batman movies ever created.
Honestly my favorite Batman so far he gos into so much details about the comics and wanting to be batman its insane!!!! He deserves his own trilogy and Joker!!!! I wish Ledger was still alive for him!!!
It's honestly so refreshing to see him like this. I don't think I've ever seen him this excited and interesting in a role he's played. Hope he gets to play the Batman for a long time.
What he's referring to as his suit had a mind if it's own, is in ego bruce is fighting between Bruce and Batman. And that batman is almost it's own entity wanting to consume Bruce. And in that comic you literally see the suit as it's own creature speaking to Bruce saying there is no longer a separation between the two. He is now batman and only batman. Bruce Wayne is now the character portrayed to the public while Batman is who he truly identified as. I think Robert has a good amount of knowledge on batman and we should just appreciate that. I'm 26 and I've been the biggest batman fan for the last 21 years of my life. I am absolutely ecstatic to see this interpretation of batman. As fans, let's just enjoy the fact that we get to see such a legendary character portrayed once more on screen.
In 90 percent of the stories out there, batman dresses up as a bat because he is trying to scare criminals. He doesnt dress up as a bat because he thinks the suit will devour him or the suit has a life of its own. That is batman 101. If you dont understand that about batman then what do you understand about batman?
@@sparshbansal6624 exactly, finally a Bruce-Batman relationship with a little more nuance. You should be glad that it’s not another tired iteration of “I dress as a bat to scare superstitious criminals” and is finally exploring the realty that Bruce‘s vision of the Batman is ALSO based in superstition. Why make a Batman story that’s like 90% of all other Batman stories, when you have the opportunity to create something daring and creative and new?
@@j.ack19 As long as you admit this has nothing to do with the comic book batman. Secondly, what is the point of a comic book movie if it changes so much about a character that the movie counterpart doesnt even resemble the comic counterpart?
@@sparshbansal6624 my guy, he literally cites the comic books he was inspired by. and if you genuinely believe this Batman “doesn’t resemble” previous versions of the character then i suggest you read more comics
@@j.ack19 Just because he cites those comics doesnt mean he understands those comics. I have read those comics and batman dresses up as a bat to scare criminals. You know what is funny? Nolan wqs inspired by the samw comics. He was also inspired by Shaman, The Man Who Falls, Long Halloween, Year One and TDKR and he got it right but Pattinson didnt
Robert Pattinson has done a good job breaking away from "That guy from Twilight" - he was great in Tenet and even though it's quite early to say, I might be so bold as to say he's portrayed the best movie batman we've seen so far. He did feel like a detective, his voice didn't feel so forced, he felt like a good fit for the role.
Damn I kept thinking to myself during the movie "hey look it's Edward" and immediately after "shit I am the problem" and then "maybe that's why Bruce doesn't appear as much". Twilight will probably haunt him forever and that's a shame, but hey now he can say that he played a vampire (sorta) and a bat (sorta) lmao
This dude has one of the coolest hairstyles I've ever seen. Such a fun personality, too. Seems to me that Pattinson is finally getting his due respect!
It’s incredible to see a superhero actor, actually interested in superhero stuff!😂 This makes me even more excited for the movie knowing that Robert is a legitimate Batman FAN😂
I feel like before the film was finished, Pattinson was stiff. When they done the dc show to show off the teaser he came across like he didn't want to be there. I truly get press junkets must be so tiring but after the film has finished all his press interviews, solo or grouped, have been so great to watch. This man is going to be on the name of everyone's lips over the next few decades. Not just because of the batman but because he's a world class actor (and just so damn likeable)!
While Val Kilmer has always been my favorite Batman, Robert Pattinson is going to be amazing in this role. When you have Matt Reeves referencing the Ego comic and Rob referencing Shaman, the level of development for this version of Batman is next level! 1 week away!
Kilmer really was underrated, he honestly had the best voice along with bale in begins, and now Pattinson, love the calm whispery voice as opposed to the angry growl, always seemed much too try hard. Their voices are far creepier and threatening when they do the former.
@@airsir9559 I get the purpose of it but like, if the general idea and presence of batman isn't intimidating enough, I don't think a forced growly voice is going to push you over the edge of fear. I've always appreciated a subtle terror and prefer the calmer, whispier voice myself. It's more psychological to me than straight up aggression I guess.
I guess he figured out how to be a "detective and wear the batsuit because....Congratulations and Thank You Robert Pattinson....you have given us the best Batman yet.
The whole movie I kept being reminded of various Legends of the Dark Knight stories, especially one very explicit reference to the Venom arc. It's good to know the inspiration was this direct, because those are some of the best Batbooks out there.
If you haven't already, I can recommend that you read Zero Year by Scott Snyder. The movie draws inspiration from that comic, as well, and it's also a great story, too!
Also, people should read these comics Robert says. Man these only reads long Halloween, dark Knight Returns, Batman year one, hush, killing joke. They never read other comics which has 80 years of history. Man people can be very unaware of these things.
It's said the Robert Pattinson, Charlie Cox, and Andrew Garfield became roommates in London. Knowing that, Rob reading the Batman comics doesn't seem surprising now, as both Charlie and Andrew also read the comics of both Daredevil and Spider-Man respectively for their roles! The three of them seem so similar to each other now.
I mean legit he is literally Batman from year one this whole movie to a T with also a hint of mask of the phantasm with the insane way he views his parents. I hope we eventually get the dark knight scene of him going to the bats to remind him why he does what he does.
I still have the early run of "Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight", there were some great stories by rotating creative teams of writers and artists. Also, gotta at how RPatts pronounces "Shaman" as "Shame-man"!
If someone told me years and years ago that Robert Pattinson would be playing Batman, and his performance would be one of if not the greatest on-screen Batman portrayals, I would tell you to the shut the fuck up and get out. But this man is such a fan of Batman and studied the comics so closely and gave a performance so captivating that I wouldn’t imagine anyone else playing his Batman.
Him talking about the comics in such detail tells you everything you need to know about how badly he wanted to play this character.
🤘😎🤘
He is a pro actor he definately knows what to do to prepare and what it will do his career if he flops at a batman. He of all people will not want to portray a lousy version of batman
he took the role first, read the comics second.
i would still like to see a batman who read the bob kane and bill finger run. tobey maguire read the first 100 issues of spider-man. why cant someone do the same for batman? this is still good enough though.
@@jeromesimon8916 you interpreted what I said as being upset? I had him on my wishlist to be cast back when this film was still rumoured in 2018 knowing full well he might not have grown up a batman fan.
He’s a true Batman fan. No other Batman has talked so much about different Batman comics and stories.
Yeah exactly!
Facts
I think he's the only actor who's played Batman and is also a Batman fan, Keaton doesnt give a damn about comics and Affleck said the same and that he only took the role to please his kids.
@@pats3212 Keaton & Affleck did fantastic interpretations. Being a fan of the comics doesn't definitively constitute an actor the sole right to play Batman, that criteria is daft. If the script is able to stand alone, then that should be enough. I'm a fan of the comics and I have no problem with whether they give a damn or not. I will give Pattinson an extra bit of credit in that he's the only one to mention Mask of the Phantasm as an influence. That's awesome.
@ I never said that tho
Nice to see a Batman actor talk about a book besides Long Halloween or Year One. I grew up on Legends of the Dark Knight (Shaman, Venom, etc.), and those darker depictions of Batman shaped my view of what Batman should be like. Really awesome to see Pattinson evoke Shaman as one of his inspirations.
Is this Robert Pattinson?
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@@theshowofstars7073 I'm 99% sure you're a bot so I'm not clicking that shit
THANK YOU. Give. Us. Gothic. Batman.
Ppl are ready for it. Stop with Joker and Catwoman. No Hush, you F-d up Matt Reeves and combined Riddler and Tommy Elliot like they did in the animated Hush movie, just in a different way. Move on.
•Mad Monk
•Cornelius Stirk
•Hugo Strange & the Monster Men
•Clayface
•Scarface
•Pyg
Give us ALL NEW villains GOSHDANGIT
@@Zton-yn4kc And in the third act something happens that I think will be very surprising and could have potential in the second film. Won't say what it is, but it's awesome and looks like it comes from Legends material. :D
@@d20revolt57 yessir. If they won’t write it, I will lol
Man, he's actually done his homework about the character and is a genuine fan. Really looking forward to his portrayal of Bruce and Batman. Rob's a great actor.
and he's been trolling us the whole time lmao
Plus he's a fan of FF7. He's defiantly got more respect from me
When you are a genuine fan, there is no homework to do.
It’s the “He’s just like me, meme.”
How do you know? He is a good actor. His knowledge could be scripted.
Now to this you say, wtf? What would even make you say such a thing. It's because I fell for this from other actors and the like.
You listen to them and you think omg, this guy is an incredible fan. And it seems from the heart. But then they say something wrong - totally wrong - that no genuine fan with that kind of knowledge would ever say. And that's when it hits you. He's just delivering a script and the research done to write the script made a mistake. A genuine fan would have caught it.
He's an actor. It's Hollywood. He's here to sell his studios movie. His knowledge may not be genuine as you might think.
Still I hope you enjoy the movie.
@@joeboxter3635 maybe so but I'll still believe in him. Just makes it more fun.
Holy shit, I can’t believe he’s citing mf’ing Shaman. This is incredible
He is a fan of the novels hope it translates into the portrayal well in the film. I suspect it would there are so many talented people in this film. Might be one of the best ones yet
@@jeromesimon8916 I'm excited to see him in it! I saw an interview where he said it was his idea to go with the extra punches after the thug is unconscious (casting is such an art in itself). There are so many revolving parts in a movie, they can do amazing takes and then the director doesn't use them for whatever reason. I don't think that's happening here, looks like Matt Reeves has done a tremendous job.
@@jeromesimon8916 just saw the movie. Can confirm, he’s the best Batman yet.
@@Chimken_nunget I still like Christian Bale more, but Pattinson has an interesting take on the character
@@jeromesimon8916 yeah he is the best Batman we’ve gotten so far
Rob deserves his own batman trilogy
He will get one and even more
I honestly think they should do more then 3 if rob wants to. 5 would be awesome cause that'd mean we'd have the same batman for a while and that's the way I want it
Well he is getting one
Hopefully way more than a trilogy
@@kingrobert7246 from the early reviews and award nominations it’s already getting, it seems he indeed deserves it
I loved how methodically he moved. Every movement from his feet to his eyes was with purpose. Nothing wasted and always ready to pounce.
damn he's really done his reading, not just the usual the dark knight returns, long halloween, year one etc
i would still like to see a batman who read the bob kane and bill finger run. tobey maguire read the first 100 issues of spider-man. why cant someone do the same for batman? this is still good enough though.
@@crobeastness how do we know he hasn’t, with the golden age omnibuses dc has been putting out for Batman he may have
@@crobeastness where did you find out that Tobey read the first 100 issues of Spider-Main
@@user-wo5tc9ux7u he says it in an interview with Johnathan Ross I think after they did Spider-Man 3. It's on TH-cam somewhere.
Is this Robert Pattinson?
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Never thought old Edward would have so much depth!
Watching his Netflix indie films shows the range this man really has as an actor!
He could've brought up Dark Knight Returns or Year One, and he could've gotten that easy comic street cred. But he mentioned _Batman: Shaman,_ a series even most modern Batman fans don't know...Pair that with the fact that Matt Reeves based the movie off of Batman: Ego, another book not known by many, and I can see why the movie and the people who worked on it resonate with Bat fans so much.
FINALLY!!!! Shaman is one of the most underrated and overlooked Bat stories!!
I’ve actually never heard of it looks like I need to read it
@@martinchatz7346 unfortunately, DC hasn’t kept it in print. Unless you want to spend an arm and leg on the original trade paperback, might be best to read the single issues online. BUT IT IS INCREDIBLY WORTH IT!
@@ryanoseguera1207 oh I’ll find it trust me finding rare comics is one thing I’m great at 😉 imma read it then do a review over it with a mukbang on my channel
@@martinchatz7346 if you have any local comic shops or particularly second hand sellers like a flea market you may be able to find a copy. Its how I got mine ages ago
Damn. Here's an actor who did his homework. I just came from seeing this movie for the second time, amazed once again by Rob's performance. I can solidly say he captured Batman in a way no one else has. Absolutely my favorite live action portrayal of the character.
The man who falls it's actually a really obscure refference. Cool to know he is digging that deep in the lore
The way he talks about Batman being this sort of mystic shaman kind of character in his presence really makes sense now that I think back on those scenes of how he enters scenes with the cops around. Guy really did some deep research for his role.
Just watched the movie. Honestly, dude NAILED exactly what he was talking about.
He understands the character, that's for sure.
That's damn good. Robert doesn't just act like the character, he can think like him. Speculates on it. Damn, that's admirable
He fucking nailed batman it was like batman coming out of the comics feel. Demeanor judgement borderline insanity at times loved it.
It’s absolutely insane to me that there was any question of whether or not he could play Batman. He is a world class actor. Clearly has done his homework. Brilliant performance.
Yeah I watched his film and instantly knew mid way through it was my favorite Batman adaptation yet. All my friends were like “idk that’s kinda bold to say” Patterson’s 3 minute interview here about how he tried to build the character just proves the passion and how fucking dedicated he was to making this the best Batman we’ve seen.
I'm so glad people still find worth in O'Neil's work. Man Who Falls and Shaman are great
O'neil has the best Batman
O’Neil really is one of the greats and it’s a shame people only wanna talk about Frank Miller as the person who made Batman dark
I never thought anyone would be able to topple Christian Bale as my favourite Batman - I grew up watching the Nolan trilogy. When I thought about Batman, those movies were the first thing I thought of.
Pattinson's performance absolutely demolished that. He is hands-down my favourite Batman and Serkis is my favourite Alfred.
The way he explains the mysticism behind The Batman is actually genuinely fascinating
I can't belive I ever doubted him to play batman. He is the best batman so far!
People doubted heath, people doubted Joaquin, I'm so glad Robert was able to change people's minds with his great performance
He did great, not better than Christian Bale's.
@@lavarball528 No he's way better, read a comic book
@@lavarball528bait?
Few people are misunderstanding what Rob says. Yes, he says that Bruce wears the batsuit maybe he thinks it gives him some power. People should understand Bruce Wayne still had lot of psychological issues in his early years as Batman from that night onwards. He shown he is somewhat unstable in those times. So, may be Bruce might have thought that. Also, Bruce is always felt comfortable as Batman and in batsuit than going out as playboy billionaire.
Exactly, Batman in comics was iterated so many times so those fans who are not open minded for different interpretations of the character they will feel like someone is attacking "his point of view" how Bruce / Batman is portrayed.
I am sorry but Batman never dressed up as a bat because he thought the suit gave him extra powers or he thought the suit would devour him. There is not a single comic where that happens. Pattinson is pretentious and he didnt understand those comics. Bruce Wayne didn’t decide to walk-or swoop-around the streets of Gotham in a bat costume because he actually thought the suit gave him powers or devoured him. Wayne started dressing as Batman because he had a specific purpose in mind: to disguise his identity when he fought criminals. He also wanted his disguise to serve another function: to evoke fear in criminals. Additionally, Batman’s use of his attire is analogous to police officers wearing their uniform, or butlers wearing their uniform, when on duty. Uniforms (of which his costume is one) signal what the wearer’s role is. If you see someone in a police uniform, you expect certain kinds of behavior: If the officer pulls a gun and points it at someone running, it will likely mean something different to you then if the gun-holder wasn’t wearing that uniform. The uniform immediately conveys context to understand the wearer’s behavior.
@@Splinter07 Noone is attacking it. We are just saying how pattinson understands batman is not who batman is at his core. At this point, it feels like a separate character
Grant Morrison (famous batman author) on Batman's mental health:
"I never really subscribed to the idea that Bruce was insane or unhealthy. As I've said before, Bruce Wayne's physical and psychological training regimes (including advanced meditation techniques) would tend to encourage a fairly balanced and healthy personality. Bruce Wayne would have gone mad if he HADN'T dressed as a bat and found a startling way to channel the grief, guilt and helplessness he felt after the death of his parents. Without Batman, Bruce would be truly screwed-up but with Batman he becomes mythic, more than human and genuinely useful to his community. I believe he began to slay his demons the moment he became a demon."
Dr. Travis langley (a real life psychologist), in chapter 14, called "The Assessment", of his book, says in very clear terms that Batman has no specific illness and is not insane or has any kind of mental issues. This is an excerpt from the chapter 14 of his book (the assessment) word for word without paraphrasing:- "Is he psychotic, homicidal, suicidal or gravely disabled? No. Does he have post traumatic disorder?? Even though he shows some symptoms, No. Does he have multiple personality disorder?? Even if that were the correct name for the disorder, no, that one's so far off the target, it's ridiculous. He is the one man who plays several roles and brings different characteristics to different situations with full awareness and memory of what he's doing. How about some sort of obsessive condition? No, no more so than the most driven athletes, activists and artists who make great sacrifices to fulfil their callings in life. If he were compulsive, he would have too little controls over his actions to function so effectively and for so long. People can have personality shortcomings without fitting a psychiatric diagnosis. Just to repeat, Dr. Langley says *NO TO PTSD, OCD, PSYCHOSIS, DISSOCIATIVE IDENTITY DISORDER*
Robert Pattinson clearly know more about Batman than 99% of the viewing audience. I mean, be honest. How many people have actually read one Batman comic let alone five?
I own over 20 (I know a bit sad)
General Kenobi, we meet again.
BTW There is so many better comics than the one he mentioned from the series "LEGENDS OF THE DARK KNIGHT" run . They must have given Robert a few titles to please the "nerds". They definitely used CGI to give Pattinson the build and muscles to pull off Batman. Because no one losses that much mass that quickly.
Someone's elitists is showing
@@monotech20.14 inaccurate. It's not u heard of for one to lose both bulk and mass after obtaining it. In this situation, Pattinson, who is very slim and has openly talked about hating exercise, had to stick to an extreme lean protein (white fish and lemon) diet and daily workout routine. Once he finished filming I'm sure he immediately went back to his old lifestyle. Remember the movie completed filming back in the middle of 2021. That's plenty of time to lose whatever mass he gained.
I'm getting similar good vibes from Pattinson to Henry Cavill when talking about their characters. Lots of respect for their superhero alter egos.
The man was an absolutely amazing batman and Bruce... just an imposing figure but cold and calculated... with a sense of being on the edge. I loved the film!
I’m genuinely and pleasantly surprised with Rob’s comic knowledge and understanding of Batman. I’ll be honest, I had never even heard of Shaman before, (but now I’m gonna go read it) but the fact that he’s taking obscure content and looking at it like “well this is a different approach to the mindset of being Batman” really shows that he’s a great comic fan who is able to debate and understand the complexities of Bruce Wayne and The Batman that some movies and even comics may not get. He reminds me of Henry Cavill talking about Geralt during his take on The Witcher. I’m so ready to see this movie, man
This dude read the entire Goblet of Fire book in one day, so there was no doubt in my mind that he’d commit to this role.
Dude it's always great when these actor's actually read up on the IP they're stepping into. It shows a massive amount of respect for both the craft and the fans. And it shows in this film. The love and passion is all over the screen in this movie. Despite some plot issues, especially towards the end, it's easily one of the best Batman movies ever created.
Honestly my favorite Batman so far he gos into so much details about the comics and wanting to be batman its insane!!!! He deserves his own trilogy and Joker!!!! I wish Ledger was still alive for him!!!
It's honestly so refreshing to see him like this. I don't think I've ever seen him this excited and interesting in a role he's played. Hope he gets to play the Batman for a long time.
Same, I just watched The Batman and it was such a chic comic book adaption.
What he's referring to as his suit had a mind if it's own, is in ego bruce is fighting between Bruce and Batman. And that batman is almost it's own entity wanting to consume Bruce. And in that comic you literally see the suit as it's own creature speaking to Bruce saying there is no longer a separation between the two. He is now batman and only batman. Bruce Wayne is now the character portrayed to the public while Batman is who he truly identified as. I think Robert has a good amount of knowledge on batman and we should just appreciate that. I'm 26 and I've been the biggest batman fan for the last 21 years of my life. I am absolutely ecstatic to see this interpretation of batman. As fans, let's just enjoy the fact that we get to see such a legendary character portrayed once more on screen.
In 90 percent of the stories out there, batman dresses up as a bat because he is trying to scare criminals. He doesnt dress up as a bat because he thinks the suit will devour him or the suit has a life of its own. That is batman 101. If you dont understand that about batman then what do you understand about batman?
@@sparshbansal6624 exactly, finally a Bruce-Batman relationship with a little more nuance. You should be glad that it’s not another tired iteration of “I dress as a bat to scare superstitious criminals” and is finally exploring the realty that Bruce‘s vision of the Batman is ALSO based in superstition.
Why make a Batman story that’s like 90% of all other Batman stories, when you have the opportunity to create something daring and creative and new?
@@j.ack19 As long as you admit this has nothing to do with the comic book batman. Secondly, what is the point of a comic book movie if it changes so much about a character that the movie counterpart doesnt even resemble the comic counterpart?
@@sparshbansal6624 my guy, he literally cites the comic books he was inspired by. and if you genuinely believe this Batman “doesn’t resemble” previous versions of the character then i suggest you read more comics
@@j.ack19 Just because he cites those comics doesnt mean he understands those comics. I have read those comics and batman dresses up as a bat to scare criminals. You know what is funny? Nolan wqs inspired by the samw comics. He was also inspired by Shaman, The Man Who Falls, Long Halloween, Year One and TDKR and he got it right but Pattinson didnt
I feel disproportionately proud of myself for knowing and saying this guy was going to nail the role, as soon as it was announced. Anyone else?
Me
He’s having a good time and seems really comfortable in this press junket. He knows he knocked it out of the park with this portrayal.
He certainly did!
Dude's a true artist and he's crazy af, I truly admire him.
Robert Pattinson has done a good job breaking away from "That guy from Twilight" - he was great in Tenet and even though it's quite early to say, I might be so bold as to say he's portrayed the best movie batman we've seen so far. He did feel like a detective, his voice didn't feel so forced, he felt like a good fit for the role.
Damn I kept thinking to myself during the movie "hey look it's Edward" and immediately after "shit I am the problem" and then "maybe that's why Bruce doesn't appear as much".
Twilight will probably haunt him forever and that's a shame, but hey now he can say that he played a vampire (sorta) and a bat (sorta) lmao
I'm so glad we got a true batman fan as batman.
This dude has one of the coolest hairstyles I've ever seen. Such a fun personality, too. Seems to me that Pattinson is finally getting his due respect!
He killed it. Killed it! He’s definitely got Batman down. Probably the best. Gonna be interesting to see how his Bruce Wayne is.
We need a podcast of robert pattinson just talking about Batman
He did great.. Thank you Robert Pattinson Please do more Batman movies.
It's so refreshing to hear an actor not say "Dark Knight Returns" or "Year 1"
Not to say they're not great, I'm just saying there's so much more
I was not expecting him to be so good as Batman. His performance was amazing.
It’s incredible to see a superhero actor, actually interested in superhero stuff!😂 This makes me even more excited for the movie knowing that Robert is a legitimate Batman FAN😂
he dies
@@thedarkknight4803 spoiler alert: we all die
I feel like before the film was finished, Pattinson was stiff. When they done the dc show to show off the teaser he came across like he didn't want to be there. I truly get press junkets must be so tiring but after the film has finished all his press interviews, solo or grouped, have been so great to watch.
This man is going to be on the name of everyone's lips over the next few decades. Not just because of the batman but because he's a world class actor (and just so damn likeable)!
He nailed it and it was absolutely no shock to me at all great actor and I love how much he knows the character
I love that he legit reads the comics, and takes inspiration from them
Pattinson is gradually developing David Lynch hair
Really amazed to hear Shaman get mentioned. That’s easily in my top ten Batman stories. Going to have to go back and reread it now…
Always makes me happy with an actor clearly cares about the character that they are portrayed.
While Val Kilmer has always been my favorite Batman, Robert Pattinson is going to be amazing in this role. When you have Matt Reeves referencing the Ego comic and Rob referencing Shaman, the level of development for this version of Batman is next level! 1 week away!
Kilmer really was underrated, he honestly had the best voice along with bale in begins, and now Pattinson, love the calm whispery voice as opposed to the angry growl, always seemed much too try hard. Their voices are far creepier and threatening when they do the former.
@@cabbagekid5743 finally, someone else that understands how much better bale was in begins than in the other 2.
Is this Robert Pattinson?
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@@crobeastness I honestly still didn’t mind the voice in TDK and TDKR. Made him sound intimidating and animalistic. Like Rorschach in Watchmen.
@@airsir9559 I get the purpose of it but like, if the general idea and presence of batman isn't intimidating enough, I don't think a forced growly voice is going to push you over the edge of fear. I've always appreciated a subtle terror and prefer the calmer, whispier voice myself. It's more psychological to me than straight up aggression I guess.
I guess he figured out how to be a "detective and wear the batsuit because....Congratulations and Thank You Robert Pattinson....you have given us the best Batman yet.
Looking forward to Pattinson’s portrayal continuing in more movies after seeing this fantastic film!
Amazing performance by Robert Pattinson as Batman!! ❤️👍😎
It feels so good to hear an actor who actually knows about the comics they're adapting.
After seeing the new batman, fully confident in saying Pattinson is the best batman
The whole movie I kept being reminded of various Legends of the Dark Knight stories, especially one very explicit reference to the Venom arc. It's good to know the inspiration was this direct, because those are some of the best Batbooks out there.
When I get new shoes I feel like a new person too lol
Homey knocked it out of the park
Interviewer: *Asks question*
Robert: *Nerdy rambling about his thoughts about a character.*
He was a truly fantastic Batman.
Near 10/10 film
He was seriously a kick a$$ Batman! Well done R Patts!
I have wanted for so long to go to the detective part if Batman
I love this man, hope I get to meet him someday, one of my fav actors out rn
I was just reading the long Halloween and year one a few months ago. Noticed alot of similarities when watching the movie which was nice. Great movie
If you haven't already, I can recommend that you read Zero Year by Scott Snyder. The movie draws inspiration from that comic, as well, and it's also a great story, too!
I have seen The Lighthouse Never saw Twilight so from Day 1 i never had a problem with him
I really enjoyed Pattinson's performance as Batman. I want a sequel of sorts.
2:45 Mad Hatter reference 🤣
Rob understood the assignment.
Also, people should read these comics Robert says. Man these only reads long Halloween, dark Knight Returns, Batman year one, hush, killing joke. They never read other comics which has 80 years of history. Man people can be very unaware of these things.
There is not a single comic where batman dresses up as a bat because of the reaosns pattinson mentioned. He dresses up as a bat to scare people
It's said the Robert Pattinson, Charlie Cox, and Andrew Garfield became roommates in London. Knowing that, Rob reading the Batman comics doesn't seem surprising now, as both Charlie and Andrew also read the comics of both Daredevil and Spider-Man respectively for their roles! The three of them seem so similar to each other now.
Robert was slept on for so long since twilight, its good his talent is being put to use in mainstream movies.
you cant be a superhero without that jawline do you?
Interesting insights to the film and Robert's portrayal that's gonna be memorable!
I mean legit he is literally Batman from year one this whole movie to a T with also a hint of mask of the phantasm with the insane way he views his parents. I hope we eventually get the dark knight scene of him going to the bats to remind him why he does what he does.
He reminds me of a younger and better looking Jack Nicholson (his smile in particular!).
Man is the best Batman we have gotten yet.
Kudos to Robert, he did a cracking job
His hair stylist went with the bird nest look.
i think robert has the bad habit of making his hair messy casually
His Batman was actually great, a great performance, great movie, looking forward to his next one.
U can tell he gets the essence of Batman to the degree that not a lot of actors go to. He reminds of animated series Batman
I still have the early run of "Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight", there were some great stories by rotating creative teams of writers and artists. Also, gotta at how RPatts pronounces "Shaman" as "Shame-man"!
Rob gets who Batman is. So glad he got to play him.
Bro I have this entire comic run and what a banger choice.
That was unexpected
Batson: "Dream state hasn't been touched on"
Batfleck: "Don't believe everything you hear son"
Funny when he was even rumored,most where like,oh,no.but now people love him
Those people clearly haven't seen his other movies.
Batman as a "witch doctor" detective is a really great idea.
Robert Pattinson ❤❤❤❤
First Batman to call the suit an outfit lol
If someone told me years and years ago that Robert Pattinson would be playing Batman, and his performance would be one of if not the greatest on-screen Batman portrayals, I would tell you to the shut the fuck up and get out. But this man is such a fan of Batman and studied the comics so closely and gave a performance so captivating that I wouldn’t imagine anyone else playing his Batman.
his physicality in the film was extraordinary
I can't believe he referenced 'Shaman'. What a bad*ss story.
Robert did the homework. he's a fan and he delivered!
BATMAN: Ego! Shoutouts Darwyn Cooke!🤘🏿🔥🦇
Pattinson is the 2nd nerdy actor to play a big superhero, Cavil was the first, both are huge nerds and damn good actors.
The man absolutely killed it. Favourite batman film of aaaaalll tiiiime
Glad to see legends of the dark knight get some love. The Shaman arc is my all time fave Batman story.