That's what i don't get about this whole "scene"; all the incel or red pill guys have never had proper relationships and men who are in real relationships just think they're all silly geese.
i was hanging out with a 30 year old coworker, they’ve never been in a relationship that lasted longer than a month, and only been with like 3 people their entire life try and explain to me how to properly finger a girl. (found all that out and they tried to give me that lesson within an hour of meeting them, creeped me tf out) At the time i was fresh out of a 4 year relationship. I looked at them dumbfounded and said “you realize i’ve been in multiple long term relationships, i’ve done things in bed that would make you have a seizure” I genuinely don’t think incels realize how easy it is to figure sex out, and that most long term couples have done the wildest shit imaginable with eachother. They were giving me the most middle school level, basic ass advice as if it was groundbreaking information.
@@scoobydarqq5832 you know exactly what is meant but that juxtaposition. There’s also a biological element of fatherhood. Once you have kids things shift in your mind.
@@scoobydarqq5832Bro this is such an insane misinterpretation on your part - I can only assume that you are either really stupid or being extremely disingenuous.
For real. In HS i always said i didnt really like to talk politics. What that meant was i was very conservative but couldnt actually back up my beliefs, so i avoided that situation alltogether.
I think he'll get girls because of his clout and money. That being said, those won't be the type of girls he wants. If he demonizes women for dressing how they want, imagine how he'll demonize women when he meets gold diggers. His insecurities will skyrocket.
@Blimey Winter What your saying is not true thier are studies out their that show ever since woman have gotten more, careers, education and political power woman are less happier compared to woman in the past but you would think they would be more happy by your mindset Anyone with a single brain cell if they had the option would not work would rather stay home and do basic home chores and be around their loved ones in their comfort zone A former feminist used to work for Cosmopolitan magazine said she used to spread corporate propaganda in the 1950s to brain wash women to fear nen as unreliable and to enter the workforce since they are the biggest consumers and spend most money in consuming productsand hold the most in debt including for the ogilarchy to double the workforce to cheapen slave labor, and so they can tax you al Big corporations use psychologist in order how to advertise and sell products basically they hijacked femenisim and exploited it to manipulate you guys like for example do you remember an advertisement in the past that women smoking is liberating going against the patriarchy basically they did that but on steroids Problem is when a woman pushes marriage family for a career higher education she prices herself out of the dating relationship market, meaning she shrinks her pool of men because women are hypergamous they only date up socially and economically problem is those men are few who make more than them and those men have all the options because they can date down and up and would prefer a younger or fertile woman who will be a housewife because men and women value different things in the opposite gender So those women grow old and they start making tick tock videos crying where have all the good men gone meaning the quality men they were able to able to pull back in their prime younger years and a woman would rather die alone before having to settle Problem with that is we humans are social creatures designed to reproduce that career, degrees are not going to pay your bills when you're older feed you take you to your doctor's appointments and wipe your behind for you when you get older Real success for a woman is starting a family, husband having kids that will take care of her
I’m a cisgender, heterosexual woman who has never been sexually attracted to women. When I dress up and put on nice makeup to go out, getting a compliment on my makeup or outfit from another woman means infinitely more to me than getting one from a man, because when a woman compliments your outfit you know you slayed and that she appreciates the effort you went into color coordinating, blending your contour, nailing your winged eyeliner, etc. Idk where this tiktok fetus is getting the idea that women dress up solely for male attention.
You could have just said WOMAN. We dont need all of that extra mess to describe WOMEN. They need a prefix to explain who they are. I am WOMAN. That simple
I don’t dress up for people to compliment me. I dress up to compliment myself. If I think I look good, I feel good about myself and I have a better time.
the kid was so embarrassing because you could sense the exact moment his energy shifted after Ethan called him insecure in his relationships and he just kept trying to insult his way out of the immense pain he felt about it. Kept trying to make Ethan “praise” him for something and when it didn’t work he turned to trying to hurt feelings like a child lol.
THIS and this whole convo was such an awesome psychoanalysis being probed open live that I have never seen before! This totally changes the way I'm going to view these people from now on, when he was describing what he wants in a partner: protective loving doting, like I was just immediately saying this guy doesnt have a satisfactory motherly figure, he wants his mommy.
You could literally see him get more sullen when Ethan didn't behave in a way that he wanted. He kept trying to talk over Ethan, even after Ethan gave him the benefit of letting him speak. And Ethan still wiped the floor with him.
I love when he says that Ethan lost his male fan base and then proceeds to say he has a very heavily male fan base and therefore can speak on what women want lmao
They want to ridicule the incels because they are men, I assure you that if they were females these jokes would not exist.But it's okay we incels accept this injustice of mockery for the lack of sexual activity because we know that we are going to laugh at the end because everything balances out at the end.This society views in sexuality is a mess women are the new god of the 21 century female approval is vital today and all "normal" men do whatever it takes to have it.notice how there is not male equivalent of a pick-me because the average men is the best and most extreme representation of a pick me.
"In my culture we don't have sex. I'm Cristian and Romanian" as a Romanian idk what the Romanian part has to do with the fact that he's bitchless but I don't claim him💀💀💀
As an italian with romanian friends, I guess this guy is how we italians see italian-americans. If he stepped foot in Bucarest I imagine it would be like that episode of The Sopranos when they go to Naples
"I'm a role model for other men!" *feels extremely threatened at the thought of the POSSIBILITY of hypothetical men even looking at his hypothetical girlfriend*
Yeah, Jordan Peterson still talks about a handful of emails he got that said they saved their lives like that justifies anything. Hitler would also get emails if alive today. That is evidence of nothing, which is why they lean so hard into it because this anecdote is more appealing then a lot of the others used.
@@jeffersonclippership2588 That's the most extreme version. The problem could also solve itself naturally over time as his brain finishes developing, he acquires more life experience, and reflects on his views.
@@boingodoingo1930 it could but most of the time it doesn't work out that way. If we're depending on people changing their minds for things ro get better then we're kind of done for
literally i quote he says “ a scenario where you’re with your husband and for every single that he hast to make she’s gonna come in consult you.” thats not a scenario THATS A DAMN RELATIONSHIP
@@tonystar2300 no fr 😭 like hes just telling on himself about how his relationships have just been him claiming ownership over his partner (and their sexuality) with little to no communication
Her “i want partnership in my relationship ” Him “Okay, imagine if your partner would come to consult with you on everything…” Yeah dude, that’s the point 💀
They want to ridicule the incels because they are men, I assure you that if they were females these jokes would not exist.But it's okay we incels accept this injustice of mockery for the lack of sexual activity because we know that we are going to laugh at the end because everything balances out at the end.This society views in sexuality is a mess women are the new god of the 21 century female approval is vital today and all "normal" men do whatever it takes to have it.notice how there is not male equivalent of a pick-me because the average men is the best and most extreme representation of a pick me.
Or they'll immediately take it into a manic defense mode and create hyperboles: Like, "WELL, IF YOU'RE AN UNGRATEFUL WOMAN AND WANT A PARTNERSHIP. HOW ABOUT HE LITERALLY ASKS YOU ABOUT EVERYTHING?! LIKE HOW HE SHOULD TIE HIS SHOES, HOW BE SHOULD BREATHE, WHAT HE EATS FOR BREAKFAST." Like, calm down. Relationships aren't just 1 way or the other. Just because you're brainwashed by alpha male content doesn't mean you have to attack others for their choices.
As a married man i want other guys to look at my partner and be jealous. I’m proud af of him and can’t believe this kid is insecure about his insecurities
If my wife get's validation from showing off her body in a promiscuous way to the general public for no other reason than validation, that's not a wife I'd be proud of having
That's cuz your a good hubby who wants the best for the one you love! I'm very happy to hear you and your husband are so supportive of each other. 💜 wishing you two luck and love for generations
That's great. I'm not directing this at you, but I just want to point out that I've been with men who practically insisted that I dress more provocatively even though it's not my style - to make other men jealous. That can be a problem, too. It's a problem when someone tries to tell you how to dress, period.
This guy literally undermined his own argument. If Ethan's audience has shifted from mostly men to mostly women, that would suggest that his opinions on women and what they are likely to want is more accurate than what a male audience would expect him to say. A large female audience is evidence he to some extend is hitting home truths when he discusses women.
I mean.. logically this makes no sense because you fail to demonstrate how having a mostly female audience implies you are more correct about women. Consider your argument as it applies to men and mid-90s “The Man Show”. Just because the audience was mostly men did not imply most men identified with it.
For real lol. I never understand when people do this, like its kind of impossible to not be political pretty much everything is or can be political. What I assume when people say stuff like that though is that they don't like watching politics and learning about it, because they sure as hell have views and ideologies
I think that people who say they're not political are probably just centrists. No politics are still politics. But me personally, I can still see why people are "afraid to own" certain political views, because debating politics usually gets nowhere, at least on the internet. People are often very aggressive with their views and neither side is open to challenging their own views, which results in "you're wrong and i'm right" but it never goes beyond that point. Everyone just treats each other like idiots who "don't get it", and then they never find any common ground. Thus for some it's easier to just say they're not political and maybe _actually_ not have a dead-set opinion on specific topics because they can be very complex and nuanced.
“Lgbt people grew up to be lgbt because they were sexually abused” Me, someone who was never sexually assaulted or sexually abused but is a pansexual trans man: 👁️👄👁️
"Imagine being in a relationship and your husband consults you with every single decision" My wife and I literally talk about any decision that could possibly affect both of us or our kids. We rarely make decisions like that on our own. The concept that one person just makes all the decisions in baffling to me. How can you say you treat your partner like a teammate and then never let them actually be part of the team.
Because most women want to be lead. That's why women let the men set up all the dates, because they want to judge the man's leadership. This is very basic stuff.
@@trompette4485 Women don't want that. Some women might, women in general don't. People are individuals and they have nuance. This is the problem with asinine generalizations like this. It lacks all critical thinking and it depersonalizes someone.
@@sway_onthetrail Men are on average, taller, stronger, faster, more assertive, more direct, and more stoic than women. Women all say that they want a confident, ambitious, financially stable and strong man. This is not societal, this is biological. Women want this because they want protection and provision for their household. So women want an ambitious, confident, assertive and strong man. Why on earth would a guy like that take the responsibilities of protection and provision, but not be the one making most of the decisions? When someone has responsibility for someone, then they have inevitably have some form of leadership over that someone.
@@trompette4485 nah, in the beginning I might not mind him choosing couple places since he invited me, but overtime I would like to make decisions together where to go on a date. Every now and then a surprise isn’t end of the world.
Him trying to cut down Ethan over his weight was so telling. I really respect how Ethan didn't bat an eye and just said "that's a good hypothesis let's go with it" and the more he repeated his words back to him you could tell the kid got more and more uncomfortable hearing his words repeated back. It takes SO MUCH self-security to not flinch at that kind of personal attack. And then Ethan shows off Hila's gym progress, he was so proud, and it's so sweet.
Honestly, as a fat person it doesn't even take much self security to not bat an eye because insulting someone's physicality (whether it be height, weight, hair, nose whatever) is the lowest denominator of insult, it's just showing that you have nothing intelligent, witty or thought provoking to say.
So I'm a lesbian. A crisis line worker told me that WAY more straight women are assaulted by straight men, and nobody questions why they are still straight. It changed me. It was the first time in 17 years of life, despite having accepting parents and an overall accepting circle, that I felt ok about my sexuality. It is never a choice. Nothing the environment a child grows up in will truly change their sexuality. They will cover it up and bury it down and even die instead of accepting themselves, but you put them in a loving and accepting environment, and people will always end up being who they are. Gay, straight, trans, cis, bi, NB, whatever.
Yes this is how you know love is not a choice, because if it we're, all damaged straight would choose to be gay the first chance they got. How many times do straight women swear they're quitting men after one more bad one? But no, despite our better judgment, we can't help but be attracted to these chuds. Thank goodness I finally got a good one, but if it somehow doesn't work out I know in my heart that I would turn gay if I could.
Fr over half a century of psychological evidence from every scientific and medical institution on Earth has repeatedly proven that sexuality is not a choice
As a bisexual woman I can confirm that I have zero attraction to children because I am not a complete psychopath that thinks children have any mental capacity to consent or sees a child and finds that attractive, now milfs and dilfs on the other hand that’s hot
@@mintallylost222 The people who are into kids are the people who are accusing the rest of us of being into kids. Tons of those wierdos are actually registered sex offenders.
Your anecdotal experience is not reflective of gay people as a whole, but luckily we already have the stats and don't need your anecdotes to confirm that straight people are more of a threat to children. Which also doesn't hurt my feelings as a straight man because I am also not a monster.
As a woman, when I dress sexy and I feel hot af, and I go out, I get compliments from men and women, and the compliments from women mean a hell of a lot more. He’s insecure cuz he thinks another man is able to take his lady.
It’s so damn annoying how straight men can’t possibly understand the female gaze. Men 100% work for the male gaze and think we as women are these npc characters that are only there to look good for them. Beyond frustrating
According to some sleuthing foot soldiers on the subreddit his girlfriend graduated high school in 2022 and turned 18 in August so do with that information what you will 👀
@@emilyepicmess8072 I mean if he’s 22 it ain’t too big of a deal I guess. Problematic age gaps don’t exist (excluding pdf files), problematic power dynamics do.
depends on what you think right wing shit is? is it what everyone on the internet says it right wing shit or is it your perseption of what you think someone would say if you thought they were right wing?
@@thomasgardner479 If you make negative presumptions about other people based on ignorance, that is right wing shit. Someone who is liberal minded/tolerant doesn't make negative presumptions about people without investigation, without facts. This guy has a bunch of prejudices and seeks whatever reinforces that. He is actively hostile to gay people, for whatever reason.
I love to see people like Hasan and Ethan doing their bit in fighting this trash ideology that is influencing so many young men. I used to be in camp Andrew Tate, until I heard Hasan debate him and I was like 'huh, so I can be a confident man and actually respect women and be happy about myself?' Don't stop what you're doing, Hasan and Ethan, we need you more than you know. True role models, not like this dude - he is just a lost boy leading lost boys.
HAHAHAHA role models? Andrew is a better role model than crybaby Ethan and terrorist lover Hasan. dudes cant handle criticism, and you call them role models! Hilarious
I’ve got respect for you. Yes, confidence is also making your own decisions and realizing if you’re making hypocritical decisions or not. You’re amazing ❤
The saddest part of this is the kid is too scared to even stand behind anything he says. He gets immediately talked out of it by some light mocking by Ethan, how spineless can you be?
"im a better role model to men than you, i have more of a male audience" "so you think you are a better model because more men as a percentage watch you" "i didn't say that. but i have more of a male audience and am more of a role model" ok cowardly ass 😂 just say it with your chest
Ethan is an ethical, based, millionare with several successful brands, a beautiful wife and family, surrounded by like a dozen extremely loyal friends. WHO WOULDN'T LOOK UP TO ETHAN?
@@nah4215That's true of all religions. To believe in religion, you have to be okay knowing there is no evidence for what you believe and there never can be.
Especially when its clear they haven't done anything close to a struggle. They've not worked the late night shift at a burger joint near several night clubs. He's never had a manager telling him that the customer is entitled to tell him KYS without him defending himself as a cashier. His confidence is so undeserved, its like someone who saw Elon Musk buy twitter and deciding thats the energy he should bring to this world.
A lot of these guys seem to have took what fleeting thoughts I may have had in my cringe days. Multiplied them by 5 or 10 and then actually put them out in the world, and confidently at that. I knew when I was thinking or feeling weird shit and either dealt with it internally or consulted trusted people these guys just taking the leap, constantly.
this makes me so sad and nervous for younger boys who consume his content. it is not normal to say a masc. body is “inspiring” but a fem. body is “looking for attention” if both take their shirts off good lord.
He gives me vibes of Charming from Shrek 2. Super annoying and babied, thinks a pretty face makes him worthy of a pedestal, and has no interest to genuinely listen to others without it being a match of who’s going to win.
Its that he's never been fucked over by life. His parents have insulated him from getting beat-up, failing in business deals, the stress of customer service/hospitality, and other struggles that end up defining a personality by age 30. Ethan has lived these struggles and it shows, especially whenever this kid speaks.
The whole Alpha Male thing is gross. It's just a cover for insecurity. Just like anywhere else in nature, the more something has to puff up to look big, the weaker it actually is. If you can't handle a partner being your equal and having ideas of their own, just don't have a relationship. Because you're not going to bring anything positive to that relationship, even if the person you're with buys into that kind of power dynamic.
Also nature is not all the same, not all gender constructs, if we can even call it gender, isnt the same as humans. Alot of life on this planet has dominate females, most males die early, their sole purpose is to pass on genetic material and thats it, once the job is done they are either eaten or their natural life ends.
Yea, I think them not being in committed relationships would even be fully good advice if it didn't also seem like they kind of crave that kind of love, they just, I don't know, aren't ready for all that that means yet. So maybe just holding off of relationships for a while or at least not chasing them as actively for a while.
“The more something has to puff up…the weaker it usually is”. Kinda like saying “bullies are cowards” No. Sometimes the thing “puffing up” really is big and bad and it’s giving you a warning. Likewise, sometimes that guy “acting tough” actually is tough. That’s the kind of generalization and lie only spread by people justifying why they’re not physically intimidating.
I’m so confused how dudes like him and Sebastian himself saying men can’t love their children the same as their mothers but will bitch that men are “loosing custody or aren’t allowed or encouraged to be more Involved and loving to Their children”, but says this shit. This dude is hurting young men and will prevent them being the best fathers they can be without limitations on how to love them or doubt if they love them.
I don't think there's anything wrong with a single childless person doing that. The problem is when he has no point to make and is just a bad person I think lol
I mean, there are families where the partner suppresses their distaste for having a family and instead of logically talking about it with their partner or avoid having children in the first place or just not marry forcefully, they hide it. BUT, I am convinced Ethan is a good man and he does care about his family and the kid had no right to make assumptions.
the interview was wild bc he’s like “you guys are trying to make me look bad. 😐” and then says “i think gay people choose to be gay” with his whole chest.
@@chillarypuff right like???? homophobic strays out of nowhere??? he was fumbling for his LIFE trying to do damage control to seem like he isn’t homophobic, but you don’t “keep track” of the growth of a community if you don’t have an obsession with them. he’s such an idiot. 💀
The age range of 13-25 is the ripe age for falling into bad mindsets and fascism. Like this isn't a joke, that is the best age range to rope people into toxic head spaces that will take YEARS to break out of. This dude reminds me of some of the friends I have literally SAVED from going down the bigot rabbit hole of thinking.
legit, dude got owned in less than half a minute. And it's not as if Ethan is some master debater (correct me if I'm wrong lol) this is even funnier to me, especially coming from an "Alpha Male" who I assume spends the majority of his time online defending what he's putting out there
Ethan is so right, his influence is far more harmful to men. Most women do know better and if they don’t they learn pretty quickly that men who speak and talk like this are not worth your time. I’m more likely to continue being happy and single than I would be to allow a man like that into my life. So continues the headlines of lonely men not having sex.
Ding ding! Every time I look at these "Alpha Male" types it just screams insecurity and small dick energy. When you have to build your entire persona around being Alpha, who are you trying to convince? It's just toxic masculinity, plain and simple. The worst part is that these people warp teenagers and that's what breeds the entitled incels.
@@tdackjordan5873 a bit of reach, OP is making a joke about how this specific 24 year old is demonstrating that he has not critically thought about his opinions
@@tdackjordan5873 As someone who hates the gerontocracy we currently live in - if you're advocating for a 24 year old to be president you should be thrown in the gulags
People aren't aware of one thing about Sebastian. HE'S LYING ABOUT GROWING UP POOR. His father is an oncologist and Vice President at Astrazeneca, immigrant or not he always lived a cushy life. In his entire life he didn't do anything remarkable or of substance. He lives off of daddy's money.
Strange because his father is in the oncology department at the highest level, and everything is written about innovation and science. And here is such a dumb son who lives in the Middle Ages
I personally find Hila's new brand of confidence extremely inspiring. For a lot of women, there is a very real fear that having children = destroying your body. There are so many concerns like, will I be able to lose the weight, be covered in stretch marks, will my tits get jacked up? Especially for moms over 30. To see a woman gracefully recover in a realistic timespan eases a lot of anxiety
yeah, it is even inspiring to me, and i dont want to ever have children. Just seeing women being confident, no matter who they are, makes me feel very confident myself. It's very inspiring
You do realized that we lose calcium more than men does by 60% throughout our lifetime right? It is basic thing in anatomy class anyway. Then would lose more while being pregnant. Our female bodies is for breeding sure but it doesn’t mean you won’t loose a lot of minerals throughout the pregnancy. It is permanent damage. Osteoporosis will knock our doors faster than men no matter what.
@@Lastskykey hmm i dont know about the whole calcium thing youre talking about, but one thing i know for sure - my female body is not "for breeding". No woman is "made for breeding", and this type of description is really disgusting
The problem I have with "traditional" guys is not that they want submissive women. The problem is they almost never hold up to their end of that bargain. Providing financially, making life decisions that put their family first, etc. They harp on and on about being the alpha but often than not they are just insecure losers who want to live like a king without actually fulfilling their responsibilities.
I think he is someone who wants to be in charge of finances in a relationship, I think its normal for one part of a relationship to be the person who files taxes/pay bills/etc. But idk why he's acting like gender has anything to do with this, just let a woman know what you're looking for and if they're okay with it, great
Opposite actually in the west most women expect traditional men when they r not traditional themselves. Most average hardworking men that just try to provide for their families r not even looked at by modern women who have such high standards mostly bc of social media inflating their egos while offering nothing except sex. Most modern women hoe around, r masculine and argumentative and don’t bring anything to the table mostly bc they have never needed to bc they’ll be some simp that wants them yet expect the a man way above their level🤣
“Just imagine a scenario where your husband comes and consults you for everything” -Lol yeah bro, it’s called an equal partnership. We both have say in the matter. That’s the point lol
Lmao it’s hilarious and sad he thought women *wouldn’t* want that. I mean, I guess there are some who don’t so I won’t speak for them, but I definitely want to be consulted before major decisions are made and also would consult my husband.
It’s not a partnership which is another lie in modern day dating. Women usually like a guy better than them in every way including height and money and expect it to be a partnership 🤣
@@maskedentrepreneur22 wtf does height or money have to do with anything 💀💀. “Oh I’m taller than you and make more money, so you listen to me and that’s it”. Get it together bro
@@LT_0403 u don’t understand lmao most modern women want a man better than them in most ways including height, pays for every thing, is stronger etc. and then thinks it is a partnership.🤣
He really gives the game away. ‘Talk back to me’. That’s old school. Attitude could mean. ‘I don’t want to be disrespected. I don’t want to be abused or nagged.’ He could have put it like that’s. Talk back means shut up woman, know your place. Young punks following these ‘alphas’ need to know women will react badly to that. Attitude never means has a different opinion to you. Talk back. The language of domestic abuse really. These creeps are looking for women to abuse. Who put up with this crap.
This is what my ex would say to me. Because I had a point of view different from his and expressed it, he said I was “disrespectful”. It was a wild time in my life. So glad that’s over
Good for you. Very old fashioned. But it wasn’t long ago men. Especially working class men, they thought that was normal. Like the Rolling Stones song. ‘The change has come, under my thumb’. Women as property. It’s revolting. And any woman must think. ‘If I do ‘talk back’ what happens?’. Warning lights must be going off when a guy says that.
This guy is a perfect showcase for narcissistic behaviour. Narcissists tend to react to criticism in a certain way: the insult/attack you on a personal level. They try to change the conversation topic to you and your person so the other side starts to defend themselves and forget the criticism they issued in the beginning. The tick tock dude keeps trying it throughout the entire conversation. My boss does this and he sometimes really loses his shit if his strategie does not work with me or other co workers because we stay on topic and ignore his personal attacks. If you learn to track this behaviour and react to it properly, you will see it so fucking often, especially at work.
I used to TA for a class teaching little kids German, they were between 9 and 12 years old. We partnered them for a project randomly and one of the duos was a boy and a girl. The girl was reading out the directions for their project and because the kids aren't native speakers, she was going a little slowly and pronouncing a couple of things wrong. The boy started being really cruel and making fun of her and then calling all girls stupid and dumb. I separated them and held him back after class. Turns out he had heard his big brother (17) and his dad spouting crazy misogynistic takes like this. I asked him if he thought his mother was stupid or dumb which seemed to give him pause. He apologised to the girl of his own accord later but it just shows how toxic and dangerous this kind of rhetoric is, where 10 year old little boys spew misogyny freely.
My favorite part of all this is him going, "Your brand is dying, Ethan." Only to then later tweet how shocked he was that over 30 thousand people saw the podcast live.
@@DarkArch-Angel um because a stadium worth of people watching Ethan is a pretty tangible metric of how successful he is. Especially when Sebastian himself called out Ethan's numbers.
@@avatardecadewho Uh, my point is, he doxxed someone live stream. During the whole Amouranth situation! Which, may I add, goes against TOS! Ring any bells!?
The women in the room: "I want an equal partnership" The dude with a wife and kids: "I see my wife as an equal and she can do what she wants" The bozo with zero prospects who's probably never even seen a nipple irl: "hmm I disagree"
It is quite hilarious how any viewpoint such as his is seen as "incel" or "virgin". As someone who has similiar viewpoints and is very vocal about them I have never had any issues with women. Surprisingly, I have been with women who held the same values and were absolute gems. Beautiful, respectful, family-oriented, submissive, and feminine. Normally the people who have problems with these ideas are generally unattractive, promiscuous, loud, career focused, and out-of-touch western women. 😂😂😂
@@thehungh0nkey853 false the people that are ugly are normaly and most of the time from the red pill community and the left, have you seen ugly dudes with asymmetrical faces and overall ugly people that are on the right wing please.
“Imagine if EVERY time your partner has to make a decision he has to consult you” Honestly that statement confirmed to me he’s never been in a real, adult relationship. Because that’s just…the bare minimum in terms of communication in a relationship? When you’re an adult who has rent/mortgage, grocery budget, you need to consult your partner who lives with you. Emotional stuff should also be addressed regularly; it’s just…the addition and subtraction of relationships.
For real lol. I can't believe he admitted to drop shipping, but then couldn't describe the difference between it and "normal" product manufacturing. It probably broke his brain when Ethan brought up the iPhone argument \
Can someone explain dropshipping? I'm out of the loop on all this stuff. I'd like to say it's because I'm old (I'm mean, regrettably, I have started saying things like "Young man" and "Young lady"), but I've just not really had much interest in Internet culture or things borne of it. Certainly not a fan of social media, Internet celebrities, or podcasts. I only learned about Ethan less than a year ago, and only just subbed to him. As for Hasan, I only remember him from his short-lived TYT days as I have no use for Twitch... except I wouldn't mind checking out Joe Bartalozzi on there 😍😍
I used to work in retail, we’d drop ship stuff. It’s not a huge thing; I don’t know how guys would make a lot of money doing it. So, my store sold snowboarding stuff. Let’s say someone wanted a Burton Snowboard. But they lived in…Pierre, SD. So it would be costly for them to travel to pick up the board. Since (at the time, I’m not sure it’s changed) Burton didn’t sell direct to the public, we would buy the board for the customer, and ship it to them, with a 40% mark up from what we bought it for. Honestly? Normal retail shit. They are running on-line stores. Nothing hyper profitable, I wouldn’t think.
I grew up around the queer community because of my queer sibling who is 16 years my senior. The only person who ever touched me inappropriately as a child was a cishet white man who also happened to be a pastor and had nothing to do with my sibling or our community
Same lol I basically only grew up around lesbians and drag queens cause of my mom, and my super religious dad (they were never really together) said they were molesting me to try and fuck my mom over in the custody battle but it was HIS PASTOR FATHER lmaooooo 😹😹😹
The queer community is extremely conscious of people acting inappropriate and disrespecting boundaries, especially those of minors, because a lot of us have been victims of abuse such as corrective SA/R or love someone who has experienced it and we don't want anyone else to have to go through that shit, queer or not, child or adult. I have never felt safer anywhere than in queer spaces and communities.
@@Emma-Mazesame, I came from a hella strict Christian family (abuse just goes with that) but Jon Borrowman showed me the way and set me free! Now I'm much happier living as myself and I'll happily throw myself in front of a Christian to protect my fellow rainbow brothers and sisters from that judgmental filth. 💜💙💖
@@Emma-MazeAlso since people tend to be significantly faster to point fingers at anyone in the community doing anything with children there's more of a sense of awareness let's say. One man's depravity could literally be the difference between you losing a community hangout spot and your personal safety being threatened. No p3d 0s are accepted in the community. People are more likely to make rash judgements too in some places. You could pick up a lost child in a mall to take it to the lost center and if you happen to have a rainbow badge you may just end up having the police called on you.
Lol, he tried to say he wanted equality in a relationship, then the chick said she wanted equality and he said "so I need to run every decision by you?" There it is, folks.
28:53 My bisexual ass was raised in a very hetero-normative, christian, conservative environment. I played the sports all the "straight alpha males" played like football. I dated girls only, because i was taught that was the way. Absolutely zero traumatic experiences involving abuse or unwanted sexual acts. Then once adulthood came, I started noticing I had attraction to females and males. It was just something I discovered I had, but kinda didn't notice till I came of age. But everyone around me was telling me that this was "the wrong way", so I had no influence whatsoever other than me being my authentic self.
Same experience for my bisexual ass. Played basketball as well as football(soccer for you yanks) throughout my entire childhood. No trauma or abuse. My parents told me they would "accept me whoever I would come home with", but cause of hetero-normative society, constant negative connotations with homosexuality and people using derogatory slurs all the way through my entire childhood, you just still kind of believe thats "not an option" Once you get older and you start figuring it out it's kind of a what the fuck moment, took me a while accept it for myself aswell cause of that.
A weird question i have for bisexual people. Assuming for straight people the endgame per say is a family with children . What is yours? Would you choose getting a wife over a husband for the ability to have children? Just a light question to understand your perspective, dont take it too seriously.
@@sakispdsw Do straight men choose a wife based on their fertility health? If she's infertile and cannot produce an heir for your clan do you tell the church she's barren I need one who isn't broken? Or do you just choose who you love and would want the family with because it's the year of lord 2023 and there's like, a whole industry of options for you to start a family if things don't pan out to go the easist route.
Its actually very simple. Just say “I want a woman who has modesty” and there are modest women. Marry them if they agree to marriage. Just don’t say women should or shouldn’t do.
it's the mind set of it all really. He sees random women and thinks these things about them, if he had a daughter he would implement these standards onto her.
@@kadencoates8774 Same. No one knows shit about shit at 22. Doesn't mean you aren't occasionally right but it's mostly on accident, broken clock and all.
I give myself a lot of shit for my earlier years (I am nearly 40), but that guy (Sebastian?) makes my 22-year-old self seem genuinely impressive by comparison. Never mind doing the work, that guy does not even know what the work looks like.
LBR this kid sees women as status objects, if he was walking down the street with his girl and people WEREN'T staring at her because she's hot, he'd be fucking pissed.
It’s sad to see young men like this guy focus their energy on this insecure trend. I’m a Cis-white-straight-Christian-man & my wife is my best friend, my partner and we both respect each other without treating either one of us like a child. Ethan should’ve gone harder, even if it looks like ableism, sometimes it’s gotta be done ✅
I’m sorry the moment where he said “imagine for every decision he has to make he comes to consult you” really sent me- like.. yea? What else is there to do in a marriage with two grown adults?
I think it was supposed to come across as hyperbole, as in "Imagine he had to come to you to choose when he had to go brush his own teeth" kind of thing, but it's so absurd an alternative that it just falls flat as a counter. Plus, he was trying to conflate "submission" with "trust" while doing that, which made very little sense in this context.
i just loved it how ethan didn't bite on this guys attempts to rile him up, especially when he kept calling him childish (which is a common button-presser and a good way to get someone to react angrily). Ethan just completely ignored it and continued to argue the point he was making. That part at the end there was just the icing on the humiliating cake... "i have more humility than you do" LOL
Repeating yourself and acting disingenuous is very childish. I do think "i have more humility than you do" is kinda self defeating but Ethan did not argue well
I'm loving the delicious irony of a 24 year old explaining that a wife (something he doesn't have) should get enough validation simply from him...as he posts to social media and looks to analytics around view counts and drags out anecdotes of men thanking him for changing their lives. I guess he needs a bit more validation than his partner (?) can provide.
Here's a little secret, you don't have to be an inspiration for anyone. A person's value is not contingent on whether or not they inspire people online. One can simply live their life in a way that makes them happy and fulfilled without marketing themselves as a lifestyle coach for disaffected youth.
for sure, you can also just be simply an entertainer. but i think ethan is a great role model, he preaches to just be civil and respectful to anyone despite their ethnicity, gender, sexuality or religion
Kinda in the same tone as 'the best revenge is living well'. Just be a good freaking person and maybe your image will work out without having to try and jump out there and post your advice tiktoks.
I’m literally younger than him with 0 relationship experience and I could 100% guarantee my relationship advice would be one thousand percent better and healthier than what lil’ bro is saying
If you're worried about your girlfriend/wife/whatever dressing "provocatively" when she's out alone, maybe that should be a wake up call that you don't trust her not to hook up with the first dude that hits on her. And why don't you trust her? Either you treat her like trash so she isn't worried about losing you or she never planned on sticking around in the first place. But keep trying to overcompensate for that insecurity by pretending to be "alpha" lmao.
On the flip side there's nothing inherently wrong with preferring a partner that has more modest sensibilities when it comes to dressing up, but when you force those standards onto your partner that's about as wrong as forcing them to expose themselves in public more than they're comfortable with. Just be normal and look for a partner who already wants the same out of the relationship that you do, if you do that there's no need for bullshit lines like "I wouldn't allow her to" when it comes to expected behavior in that relationship.
@@fluidthought42 This is an extremely reasonable take. If you have preferences, that is your life and your choice. But as you said, it's when you try to force your expectations of what you would expect in a partner onto another person that is the issue.
@@tofuchahan6316 If you're so controlling that you're telling your partner what they can/can't wear, there's clearly no foundation of trust there in the first place. So why be in the relationship? Trying to control someone is just going to make them leave faster.
“Fat = not respecting yourself” is a wild thing to say. Naturally being overweight isn’t healthy, but I wouldn’t go so far as to say the person just doesn’t care about themselves 😂
It does show lack of self care, motivation, and general laziness. If they understood how better they would feel, look, and how much they would learn from proper nutrition and fitness it is embarassing not to do so.
this whole weight as an indication of health thing is so stupid. plenty of people who are overweight are healthier than skinnier people. i can say wholeheartedly as someone skinny, i am not healthy.
He's a hypocrite, he wants his "wife" to be modest, and yet he posts shirtless pics. He has a weird illusion of grandeur and his only way of debating is by using ad hominems. Also, he was desperate for Ethan to say he's a role model 🤣.
Seeing guys like my father shitting out this "alpha male" content and they're around my age makes me lose faith. However, seeing other guys destroying these dudes' ideas gives me a sense of optimism.
They want to ridicule the incels because they are men, I assure you that if they were females these jokes would not exist.But it's okay we incels accept this injustice of mockery for the lack of sexual activity because we know that we are going to laugh at the end because everything balances out at the end.This society views in sexuality is a mess women are the new god of the 21 century female approval is vital today and all "normal" men do whatever it takes to have it.notice how there is not male equivalent of a pick-me because the average men is the best and most extreme representation of a pick me.
Yeah, people don’t realize, another big audience is lonely men getting into their midlife crisis. Divorcés especially, they start getting into the idea that some people “get it” and they don’t; there’s totally a pipeline from angry guys ranting in their trucks on Facebook, to grifter pickup artists and bs RedPill podcasts.
A friend posted this "what makes a high value woman " shit the other day. I sent him a message telling him it was incel thinking and really scary. He tried to say it was about fitness
My father is a whole bum living on his mothers couch spewing this red pill nonsense. The man had one job his whole life and kept it for 4 months. He’s relied on the women in the family to take care of him while beating on them and spewing hatred. I don’t take any of these losers seriously.
Dudes like that are why women like me are happier alone. It’s just not worth the trouble anymore when I can be so much happier doing my own thing. Insecure guys are such a fucking problem and they need to grow up. That is why the suicide rates are high. Admit the truth and then grow or you will suffer more and more until you die alone. Women know there is better now and we don’t want to settle for insecure abusive guys. Heal first dude.
Guy was like "I just wanna be left alone so I won't be criticized for how I abuse my wife by controlling every aspect of it and limiting who she interacts with."
you really dont get to play the whole 'I wanna be left alone' card when your a content creator who makes hundreds of statements on how people should live their lives.
Its wild to see how mild their takes get in actual debates. Like they know what they advertise is insane so when they come here they're like "well I would like my girlfriend to be nice to me"
It's because they don't actually know what their views are. They shout stuff without thinking, and then when someone challenges them, they might actually think about it a little for the first time.
"Women have this kind of love for their children that nobody else in the world can understand" "Are you saying Hila loves my kids more than me?" "No I'm saying your love is different" Dude couldn't even stay consistent within 10 seconds
@@mariafancypants Yes! He doesn't see his mother a full human being, he sees her the way a baby sees a security blanket. In his mind, her entire existence is to make him feel good because "that's what a mother's job is to do"
its true tho, mums love for the kid is different and thats a fact.. think about it... 9 months inside the body and even giving birth to that human is incredible.. something the father could never experience so yeh sebastian is 100% on that one
As a pansexual in their 30s there was plenty of LGBTQ+ kids I went to school with but we kept it to ourselves because of the backlash. We've always been there people are just coming out easier now. Also knew I was pan when I was in first grade, it didnt have a label cause I had no idea what gay was, just knew I liked girl and boy classmates.
Exactly this. Before people would lose their job, get shunned from society or even get murdered if you came out. No wonder people didn't come up. I don't understand how that's so difficult to understand? The first pride literally happened because the police came in and attacked people chilling at a gay bar.
Yea and 30% isnt that much with the amount of different queer labels. Not every queer person is trans nonbinary gay ace poly or a variant. Its usually like 1 or 2 and a lot of them overlap with hetro behavior. So even if it was 70%, people aren't going to die out. It is a neutral thing
An unmarried virgin telling a husband and father of two about how to please a woman has got to be one of the funniest things I’ve seen in a grip 😂
Like literally how does his brain operate to the point where he's telling a MARRIED HUSBAND AND FATHER OF TWO how to please a woman?
His wife lives in his head
That's what i don't get about this whole "scene"; all the incel or red pill guys have never had proper relationships and men who are in real relationships just think they're all silly geese.
i was hanging out with a 30 year old coworker, they’ve never been in a relationship that lasted longer than a month, and only been with like 3 people their entire life try and explain to me how to properly finger a girl. (found all that out and they tried to give me that lesson within an hour of meeting them, creeped me tf out)
At the time i was fresh out of a 4 year relationship. I looked at them dumbfounded and said “you realize i’ve been in multiple long term relationships, i’ve done things in bed that would make you have a seizure” I genuinely don’t think incels realize how easy it is to figure sex out, and that most long term couples have done the wildest shit imaginable with eachother.
They were giving me the most middle school level, basic ass advice as if it was groundbreaking information.
His wife has said she’s never finished and dosnt really love him that much anymore….
-“Being gay is a choice”
-“Did you choose to be attracted to Women”
-“No”
-“Do I need to connect the dots for you or what”
😂
It really pisses me off that he immediately goes for child abuse as soon as he loses on this point
This part was sooo good. He was sofa king close to understanding..
that was nice
This line got me
@@DEADMALLANGEL fr i could not have facepalmed harder dude was trying to cope like nothing else
a dude with no kid telling a father of two what fatherly love is LMAO.
so you need to expirence something to talk about it? then never talk about how bad the holocaust was again
"I have more humility than you"
@@scoobydarqq5832 you know exactly what is meant but that juxtaposition. There’s also a biological element of fatherhood. Once you have kids things shift in your mind.
@@scoobydarqq5832Bro this is such an insane misinterpretation on your part - I can only assume that you are either really stupid or being extremely disingenuous.
@@scoobydarqq5832 Brain dead ass take
when a guy this age with these mannerisms says “i’m not that into politics” it means he’s a conservative and knows that won’t get him laid.
For real. In HS i always said i didnt really like to talk politics. What that meant was i was very conservative but couldnt actually back up my beliefs, so i avoided that situation alltogether.
@@fordsquared537Sounds like you got better? Lol
🎯I just had a conversation that proves this!!
"I'm not conservative and im not into politics but "
Or claims to be Libertarian to avoid having to take ownership of being a Conservative
“I would never want my wife to-“ imma stop you right there brother✊🏾✊🏾, you will never have this problem💯 🗣
right
corny
@@scoobydarqq5832 correct*
💀
@@scoobydarqq5832 cope
This guy has never talked to any woman that wasn’t his mother. The insecurity is palpable. The only thing that is gonna fuck this guy is life.
and since he's an unreasonably rich clout goblin, he's gonna turn his problems into EVERYONES problem
@@ckorp666 yup.
I think he'll get girls because of his clout and money. That being said, those won't be the type of girls he wants. If he demonizes women for dressing how they want, imagine how he'll demonize women when he meets gold diggers. His insecurities will skyrocket.
@Blimey Winter What your saying is not true thier are studies out their that show ever since woman have gotten more, careers, education and political power woman are less happier compared to woman in the past but you would think they would be more happy by your mindset
Anyone with a single brain cell if they had the option would not work would rather stay home and do basic home chores and be around their loved ones in their comfort zone
A former feminist used to work for Cosmopolitan magazine said she used to spread corporate propaganda in the 1950s to brain wash women to fear nen as unreliable and to enter the workforce since they are the biggest consumers and spend most money in consuming productsand hold the most in debt including for the ogilarchy to double the workforce to cheapen slave labor, and so they can tax you al
Big corporations use psychologist in order how to advertise and sell products basically they hijacked femenisim and exploited it to manipulate you guys like for example do you remember an advertisement in the past that women smoking is liberating going against the patriarchy basically they did that but on steroids
Problem is when a woman pushes marriage family for a career higher education she prices herself out of the dating relationship market, meaning she shrinks her pool of men because women are hypergamous they only date up socially and economically problem is those men are few who make more than them and those men have all the options because they can date down and up and would prefer a younger or fertile woman who will be a housewife because men and women value different things in the opposite gender
So those women grow old and they start making tick tock videos crying where have all the good men gone meaning the quality men they were able to able to pull back in their prime younger years and a woman would rather die alone before having to settle
Problem with that is we humans are social creatures designed to reproduce that career, degrees are not going to pay your bills when you're older feed you take you to your doctor's appointments and wipe your behind for you when you get older
Real success for a woman is starting a family, husband having kids that will take care of her
@@ckorp666 cry harder
His ability to say, "I didn't say that!" right after he said that exact thing is so mind blowing to me
Timestamps, cause I don't remember that ever happening
@@okerutakehashi706 did happen u mustn’t have been paying attention, why don’t you watch it again
Republicans always do that.
The NoBullshit school of debating
I thought I was the only one that noticed it😂😂
I’m a cisgender, heterosexual woman who has never been sexually attracted to women.
When I dress up and put on nice makeup to go out, getting a compliment on my makeup or outfit from another woman means infinitely more to me than getting one from a man, because when a woman compliments your outfit you know you slayed and that she appreciates the effort you went into color coordinating, blending your contour, nailing your winged eyeliner, etc.
Idk where this tiktok fetus is getting the idea that women dress up solely for male attention.
You could have just said WOMAN. We dont need all of that extra mess to describe WOMEN. They need a prefix to explain who they are. I am WOMAN. That simple
@@eigna8914 Bro you're weird
@@eigna8914because you would’ve accused her of being gay
I don’t dress up for people to compliment me. I dress up to compliment myself. If I think I look good, I feel good about myself and I have a better time.
@@lpycb42 Yes!!!! I am in competition with myself!!!!
Dude doesn't want a woman, he wants a doll. Something he can dress up and pretend to have a relationship with.
Cry harder men have preferences just like women it’s just that mens r shamed and labeled insecure🤣
A doll in a cardigan and ankle length skirt.
@MonkeyBonesGeorge So true. This guy is dripping with novel ideas.
He claims he's so successful and wise so he could definitely afford the real doll of his dreams complete with modest mumu
@KEE that would be THEIR prerogative, fool.
the kid was so embarrassing because you could sense the exact moment his energy shifted after Ethan called him insecure in his relationships and he just kept trying to insult his way out of the immense pain he felt about it. Kept trying to make Ethan “praise” him for something and when it didn’t work he turned to trying to hurt feelings like a child lol.
Which just proved Ethan's point further
he was so shocked that Ethan's life was transformed by his dumb opinions LOL. what a narcissist.
THIS and this whole convo was such an awesome psychoanalysis being probed open live that I have never seen before! This totally changes the way I'm going to view these people from now on, when he was describing what he wants in a partner: protective loving doting, like I was just immediately saying this guy doesnt have a satisfactory motherly figure, he wants his mommy.
You could literally see him get more sullen when Ethan didn't behave in a way that he wanted. He kept trying to talk over Ethan, even after Ethan gave him the benefit of letting him speak. And Ethan still wiped the floor with him.
Boy got emotionally sniped, had it coming tho 😂
I love when he says that Ethan lost his male fan base and then proceeds to say he has a very heavily male fan base and therefore can speak on what women want lmao
He has a majority male fan base
@@jinglecat3678 His stats say otherwise
Who better to tell me what women want than a single unmarried kid too scared to talk to women?
They want to ridicule the incels because they are men, I assure you that if they were females these jokes would not exist.But it's okay we incels accept this injustice of mockery for the lack of sexual activity because we know that we are going to laugh at the end because everything balances out at the end.This society views in sexuality is a mess women are the new god of the 21 century female approval is vital today and all "normal" men do whatever it takes to have it.notice how there is not male equivalent of a pick-me because the average men is the best and most extreme representation of a pick me.
@@Praisethesunson we can learn so much!!!
"In my culture we don't have sex. I'm Cristian and Romanian" as a Romanian idk what the Romanian part has to do with the fact that he's bitchless but I don't claim him💀💀💀
Did he LEGIT use the fact that he's Romanian to justify his maidenless behavior? LMAOOO
Bitchless?
That’s nonsense unless he’s a Pentecostal Roma. Which he clearly isn’t.
My mom, as a Christian passed it off to tiktok
As an italian with romanian friends, I guess this guy is how we italians see italian-americans. If he stepped foot in Bucarest I imagine it would be like that episode of The Sopranos when they go to Naples
"I'm a role model for other men!" *feels extremely threatened at the thought of the POSSIBILITY of hypothetical men even looking at his hypothetical girlfriend*
This was triggering to listen to, the fact that he has a savior complex as if he's actually changing peoples lives is especially annoying
I will comment every time I see you in here friend
And he calls himself humble. Lmao
you are chronically online
Yeah, Jordan Peterson still talks about a handful of emails he got that said they saved their lives like that justifies anything. Hitler would also get emails if alive today. That is evidence of nothing, which is why they lean so hard into it because this anecdote is more appealing then a lot of the others used.
HUHH
Ethan has such a disarming debate style it’s like he’s just hanging out with you but cutting you up simultaneously lol
😂😂😂😂😂I noticed.
I wish I could master that
He asks the right questions but he remains calm so it’s disarming. He’s giving the people nothing to react to BUT the question.
"Women feel love, men don't"
Sheesh. Don't let this guy purchase a firearm.
Unless he points it at himself
@@jeffersonclippership2588 too far bro omg relax
@@chillarypuff sorry for hoping the problem solves itself?
@@jeffersonclippership2588 That's the most extreme version. The problem could also solve itself naturally over time as his brain finishes developing, he acquires more life experience, and reflects on his views.
@@boingodoingo1930 it could but most of the time it doesn't work out that way. If we're depending on people changing their minds for things ro get better then we're kind of done for
Imagine a relationship where your Husband actually values your opinion and input 😂😂 shiver me timbers!!!
oh no oh scary
Wait no 'Your Husband' implies ownership and that makes him uncomfortable. :P
literally i quote he says “ a scenario where you’re with your husband and for every single that he hast to make she’s gonna come in consult you.” thats not a scenario THATS A DAMN RELATIONSHIP
@@tonystar2300 Chuds like this believe that women are happiest when they have a man making all the decisions for them
@@tonystar2300 no fr 😭 like hes just telling on himself about how his relationships have just been him claiming ownership over his partner (and their sexuality) with little to no communication
Her “i want partnership in my relationship ”
Him “Okay, imagine if your partner would come to consult with you on everything…”
Yeah dude, that’s the point 💀
They want to ridicule the incels because they are men, I assure you that if they were females these jokes would not exist.But it's okay we incels accept this injustice of mockery for the lack of sexual activity because we know that we are going to laugh at the end because everything balances out at the end.This society views in sexuality is a mess women are the new god of the 21 century female approval is vital today and all "normal" men do whatever it takes to have it.notice how there is not male equivalent of a pick-me because the average men is the best and most extreme representation of a pick me.
Or they'll immediately take it into a manic defense mode and create hyperboles: Like, "WELL, IF YOU'RE AN UNGRATEFUL WOMAN AND WANT A PARTNERSHIP. HOW ABOUT HE LITERALLY ASKS YOU ABOUT EVERYTHING?! LIKE HOW HE SHOULD TIE HIS SHOES, HOW BE SHOULD BREATHE, WHAT HE EATS FOR BREAKFAST."
Like, calm down. Relationships aren't just 1 way or the other. Just because you're brainwashed by alpha male content doesn't mean you have to attack others for their choices.
No, not everything. That's unmanageable. Just the stuff that's important & affects the fam.
That exchange blew my mind. This kid, emphasis on kid, has no idea what he's talking about.
Most women do not want that.
I know from experience.
That's basically raising a child at that point.
As a married man i want other guys to look at my partner and be jealous. I’m proud af of him and can’t believe this kid is insecure about his insecurities
If my wife get's validation from showing off her body in a promiscuous way to the general public for no other reason than validation, that's not a wife I'd be proud of having
Same! I want other people to lift up my partner because they deserve to be :)
That's cuz your a good hubby who wants the best for the one you love! I'm very happy to hear you and your husband are so supportive of each other. 💜 wishing you two luck and love for generations
That's kinda fuckin badass
That's great. I'm not directing this at you, but I just want to point out that I've been with men who practically insisted that I dress more provocatively even though it's not my style - to make other men jealous. That can be a problem, too. It's a problem when someone tries to tell you how to dress, period.
This guy literally undermined his own argument. If Ethan's audience has shifted from mostly men to mostly women, that would suggest that his opinions on women and what they are likely to want is more accurate than what a male audience would expect him to say. A large female audience is evidence he to some extend is hitting home truths when he discusses women.
nah don't listen to females, listen to sigma grindcel echo chambers instead
@@edithputhy4948 Can confirm, now I give ass to my homies because that’s how sigma and straight I am.
@@Takokujin07 men loving on men, can't get manlier than that
So with that logic if his audience of men decreased then his takes on men are less accurate to what a majority of males feel.
I mean.. logically this makes no sense because you fail to demonstrate how having a mostly female audience implies you are more correct about women. Consider your argument as it applies to men and mid-90s “The Man Show”. Just because the audience was mostly men did not imply most men identified with it.
The fact that after many bad experiences with men I am still attracted to men just proves that sexuality is not a choice
Preach!
same, unfortunately
Fr I wish I could date my homies but nah it's these crazy lying women
@@michaelkendall1263we don't want you
@@michaelkendall1263 god i wish yall could date your homies and leave us alone too.
I love people that say they're not political and then have a hundred thousand political opinions that they're too afraid to own
For real lol. I never understand when people do this, like its kind of impossible to not be political pretty much everything is or can be political. What I assume when people say stuff like that though is that they don't like watching politics and learning about it, because they sure as hell have views and ideologies
I've been beating it longer than he's been alive. Haven't got the recipe right😅
I think that people who say they're not political are probably just centrists. No politics are still politics. But me personally, I can still see why people are "afraid to own" certain political views, because debating politics usually gets nowhere, at least on the internet. People are often very aggressive with their views and neither side is open to challenging their own views, which results in "you're wrong and i'm right" but it never goes beyond that point. Everyone just treats each other like idiots who "don't get it", and then they never find any common ground. Thus for some it's easier to just say they're not political and maybe _actually_ not have a dead-set opinion on specific topics because they can be very complex and nuanced.
People who claim to be apolitical are in most cases at least conservative, if not much further to the right of it.
@@PsyCore91 how did you get to that impression? genuinely curious
“Lgbt people grew up to be lgbt because they were sexually abused”
Me, someone who was never sexually assaulted or sexually abused but is a pansexual trans man: 👁️👄👁️
You got psychic attacked
@@frogmemo4153I’m gonna a say people were “psychic attacked” all the time now. New favorite line.
Fr his source was 'trust me bro'
‘Pansexual trans man”-
Who are you attracted to since your pansexual but also trans?..
@@Hahahaha-7anyone regardless of gender and orientation. That’s what pansexual means… don’t know which bit is confusing you
I’m inspired by Ethan’s patience to sit through this conversation
Exactly! I had nothing to do with it and I had to walk away from the TV like 5 times.. so infuriating!
Fr like 2 minutes in I felt like punching the guy in the face
We've sat through your feminist shit before..
Yeah that’s literally a Godly amount of patience right there
Thats why they say "patience of a saint."
"Imagine being in a relationship and your husband consults you with every single decision"
My wife and I literally talk about any decision that could possibly affect both of us or our kids. We rarely make decisions like that on our own. The concept that one person just makes all the decisions in baffling to me. How can you say you treat your partner like a teammate and then never let them actually be part of the team.
Because most women want to be lead. That's why women let the men set up all the dates, because they want to judge the man's leadership. This is very basic stuff.
@@trompette4485 Women don't want that. Some women might, women in general don't. People are individuals and they have nuance. This is the problem with asinine generalizations like this. It lacks all critical thinking and it depersonalizes someone.
@@sway_onthetrail Men are on average, taller, stronger, faster, more assertive, more direct, and more stoic than women. Women all say that they want a confident, ambitious, financially stable and strong man. This is not societal, this is biological. Women want this because they want protection and provision for their household. So women want an ambitious, confident, assertive and strong man. Why on earth would a guy like that take the responsibilities of protection and provision, but not be the one making most of the decisions? When someone has responsibility for someone, then they have inevitably have some form of leadership over that someone.
@@trompette4485 nah, in the beginning I might not mind him choosing couple places since he invited me, but overtime I would like to make decisions together where to go on a date. Every now and then a surprise isn’t end of the world.
He wants them on the team. As waterboy.
Lol he sounds like a child still "I don't want a wife to call me mean names". Incels are wild man
He isn't an incel.
@@PearTree450 yep, we need a new name, alpha males?
@@stefan.avramov 'alpha' referring to how underdeveloped their brains are like a glitchy program.
@@stefan.avramov
Top G
Its funny cuz he's actually a Virgin 😂
Him trying to cut down Ethan over his weight was so telling. I really respect how Ethan didn't bat an eye and just said "that's a good hypothesis let's go with it" and the more he repeated his words back to him you could tell the kid got more and more uncomfortable hearing his words repeated back. It takes SO MUCH self-security to not flinch at that kind of personal attack. And then Ethan shows off Hila's gym progress, he was so proud, and it's so sweet.
This part!
Honestly, as a fat person it doesn't even take much self security to not bat an eye because insulting someone's physicality (whether it be height, weight, hair, nose whatever) is the lowest denominator of insult, it's just showing that you have nothing intelligent, witty or thought provoking to say.
@@missbeaussie
Yeah, but the way he layered it with an attack on his marriage was pretty fucking evil
If you respect your body and are confident in your relationship it’s easy.
If you respect your body and are confident in your relationship it’s easy.
So I'm a lesbian. A crisis line worker told me that WAY more straight women are assaulted by straight men, and nobody questions why they are still straight. It changed me. It was the first time in 17 years of life, despite having accepting parents and an overall accepting circle, that I felt ok about my sexuality. It is never a choice. Nothing the environment a child grows up in will truly change their sexuality. They will cover it up and bury it down and even die instead of accepting themselves, but you put them in a loving and accepting environment, and people will always end up being who they are. Gay, straight, trans, cis, bi, NB, whatever.
Yes this is how you know love is not a choice, because if it we're, all damaged straight would choose to be gay the first chance they got. How many times do straight women swear they're quitting men after one more bad one?
But no, despite our better judgment, we can't help but be attracted to these chuds. Thank goodness I finally got a good one, but if it somehow doesn't work out I know in my heart that I would turn gay if I could.
Fr over half a century of psychological evidence from every scientific and medical institution on Earth has repeatedly proven that sexuality is not a choice
Fr, if sexuality was a choice, straight men would have a very bad time in this world lol
As a bisexual woman I can confirm that I have zero attraction to children because I am not a complete psychopath that thinks children have any mental capacity to consent or sees a child and finds that attractive, now milfs and dilfs on the other hand that’s hot
Older peaple are kinda hot
GIVE ME A SLIVER FOX OVER A BABY BOY ANY DAY.
I can also confirm that I'm not onto children.
I'm into Megamind.
@@mintallylost222 The people who are into kids are the people who are accusing the rest of us of being into kids. Tons of those wierdos are actually registered sex offenders.
Your anecdotal experience is not reflective of gay people as a whole, but luckily we already have the stats and don't need your anecdotes to confirm that straight people are more of a threat to children. Which also doesn't hurt my feelings as a straight man because I am also not a monster.
The dude is so insecure. Ethan broke him. He needs to grow up and not be selfish and concerned about how his partner dresses.
?😂
Ethan aint a good person either
Fr
@@moderndespair9922 still better husband. Ethan is gigachad
@@cloudyshades8983 Ethan I'd a gigachad of feminism. Making him a cuck
"You're not an inspiration to men anymore because too many women like you" I love this kid
Broooo i didn't even connect that thats so fire
Shouldn’t that be the goal? To have woman like you? Isn’t that what he is trying to do. 😂😂
@@bubblesawesome3284 He could be gay, that's why he prefer male dominant audience.
@功夫Yiga most men in that space unironically end up being gay or trans. Not a bad thing, but theirs some kind of repression going on most of the time.
@@yiga4171 omg trueeee that’s why he’s trying to hard to be homophobic
As a woman, when I dress sexy and I feel hot af, and I go out, I get compliments from men and women, and the compliments from women mean a hell of a lot more. He’s insecure cuz he thinks another man is able to take his lady.
It’s so damn annoying how straight men can’t possibly understand the female gaze. Men 100% work for the male gaze and think we as women are these npc characters that are only there to look good for them. Beyond frustrating
As a cis hetero woman, I would leave with another woman just be away from him.
He’s the reason girls have to look out for each other.
"im not insecure" "ethan you dont think im inspiring" "really you cant see anything that i do that is inspiring" BRO IS BEGGING FOR VALIDATION
“I’m not insecure”
“I’m not comfortable with my girlfriend, who definitely exists, dressing how she’d like”
so you would let your girl wear a thong outside
@@scoobydarqq5832 "let" lol. You've never had a girlfriend. Women aren't property douchebag.
According to some sleuthing foot soldiers on the subreddit his girlfriend graduated high school in 2022 and turned 18 in August so do with that information what you will 👀
@@emilyepicmess8072 bro touch grass wtf is this comment
@@emilyepicmess8072 I mean if he’s 22 it ain’t too big of a deal I guess. Problematic age gaps don’t exist (excluding pdf files), problematic power dynamics do.
"I'm not right wing"
Immediately says the most right wing shit.
depends on what you think right wing shit is? is it what everyone on the internet says it right wing shit or is it your perseption of what you think someone would say if you thought they were right wing?
@@SuperSweetLucas I think you need to draw the concept for him
@@thomasgardner479 homophobes and transphobes are right wing
@@thomasgardner479 If you make negative presumptions about other people based on ignorance, that is right wing shit. Someone who is liberal minded/tolerant doesn't make negative presumptions about people without investigation, without facts. This guy has a bunch of prejudices and seeks whatever reinforces that. He is actively hostile to gay people, for whatever reason.
I love to see people like Hasan and Ethan doing their bit in fighting this trash ideology that is influencing so many young men. I used to be in camp Andrew Tate, until I heard Hasan debate him and I was like 'huh, so I can be a confident man and actually respect women and be happy about myself?' Don't stop what you're doing, Hasan and Ethan, we need you more than you know. True role models, not like this dude - he is just a lost boy leading lost boys.
HAHAHAHA role models? Andrew is a better role model than crybaby Ethan and terrorist lover Hasan. dudes cant handle criticism, and you call them role models! Hilarious
Bruh😂
Wait until you find out how much better you feel when you stop interacting with women entirely
I’ve got respect for you. Yes, confidence is also making your own decisions and realizing if you’re making hypocritical decisions or not. You’re amazing ❤
I’m glad you were able to question your own values/ideologies. That’s where real change in the world starts
The saddest part of this is the kid is too scared to even stand behind anything he says. He gets immediately talked out of it by some light mocking by Ethan, how spineless can you be?
Right he’s so weak
LOL exactly. Or he tries to redirect and deflect
"im a better role model to men than you, i have more of a male audience"
"so you think you are a better model because more men as a percentage watch you"
"i didn't say that. but i have more of a male audience and am more of a role model"
ok cowardly ass 😂 just say it with your chest
It shows theres a chance he can be fixed, it will just take too much work that no one should have to do for this guy lol
😂he is trying to sell his image and school Ethan.
He is not going to admit his short coming as a self-appointed expert/savior
"I'm more humble than you"
Fewer self-defeating phrases have been uttered more than this one.
The humbelest.
I don't mean to seem arrogant when I say, I may be the greatest man alive
Or my other favorite, “I’M NOT ANGRY!!!” 🫣 yea right ok….
Literally
I've never seen someone so sure he's a great person while being so void of empathy.
You never met feminist then
@@tonyonaperky2128have you?
@@milesmohrien8964 Used to be one. It's a lack of empathy all around. Especially with the ones of influence
@@tonyonaperky2128 "No YOU!" Fuckin owned lol
@@tonyonaperky2128 Oh please do explain. I anxiously await your well- thought response.
Ethan is an ethical, based, millionare with several successful brands, a beautiful wife and family, surrounded by like a dozen extremely loyal friends. WHO WOULDN'T LOOK UP TO ETHAN?
Tbf he’s liberal imperialist apologist
@larabonczek9437 Wait till he find out theres studies which prove more women prefer dad bods over ripped six pack guys
He said “yea I think lgbtq people are more likely to abuse kids” and I literally GASPED. He’s gotta be grifting there’s no way
Straight pastors and priest are more likely to to abuse kids than the LGBTQ community
Nary a word on pedos in Christianity from a Christian though.
@@shadowboxing7029 lol you know it’s impossible to be a Christian without being a hypocrite
@@nah4215That's true of all religions. To believe in religion, you have to be okay knowing there is no evidence for what you believe and there never can be.
Most pedos are gay
I love how every 20 year old now acts like they have lived multiple life times and have wisdom from the gods. It’s so annoying.
I'm the same age as Ethan and I KNOW I'm a dumbass. XD
True smart and experienced people stay humble, this kid is just Dunning-Krugering his way though this conversation.
Especially when its clear they haven't done anything close to a struggle. They've not worked the late night shift at a burger joint near several night clubs. He's never had a manager telling him that the customer is entitled to tell him KYS without him defending himself as a cashier. His confidence is so undeserved, its like someone who saw Elon Musk buy twitter and deciding thats the energy he should bring to this world.
A lot of these guys seem to have took what fleeting thoughts I may have had in my cringe days. Multiplied them by 5 or 10 and then actually put them out in the world, and confidently at that. I knew when I was thinking or feeling weird shit and either dealt with it internally or consulted trusted people these guys just taking the leap, constantly.
nah I'm 20 and I'm fucking stupid, I don't know shit lol
this makes me so sad and nervous for younger boys who consume his content. it is not normal to say a masc. body is “inspiring” but a fem. body is “looking for attention” if both take their shirts off good lord.
like Olivia said, men's bodies are there to be strong, women's bodies are there to be fucked
Cope
@@E_xe2 why don't ya cope with deez nutz on your face
Most kids will realize he's BS.
The problem is that, we're not the same. Women don't enjoy naked bodies the way men do.
As a representative of all Romanians… we completely reject this guy, you can take him
Too late, he already said he was Romanian, he's all yours now.
☠️😭
And into the dumpster he goes.
This kid has the energy of someone who has never been punched in the face lol
It’s like a total lack of fear. This kid grew up behind a screen and would probably shit himself if confronted by an actual man in person.
Was looking for this comment and I found it, thank you my internet bruv.
He gives me vibes of Charming from Shrek 2. Super annoying and babied, thinks a pretty face makes him worthy of a pedestal, and has no interest to genuinely listen to others without it being a match of who’s going to win.
Rosie red cheeks
Its that he's never been fucked over by life. His parents have insulated him from getting beat-up, failing in business deals, the stress of customer service/hospitality, and other struggles that end up defining a personality by age 30. Ethan has lived these struggles and it shows, especially whenever this kid speaks.
Him: In my culture we dont have sex, I'm christian and romanian so
Me, a Romanian: 👁👄👁
Man claimed Romanian christians Don't have sex.
This. This guy’s myriad crippling insecurities have nothing to do with being romanian 😂
Holy shit these people need therapy…
Haven't you heard? Romanians aren't birthed (due to sex), they spawn from spores like mushrooms
He was probably homeschooled or something or maybe he’s just a pathetic loser who was no fun at parties and so never connected with anyone
Fr I'm also Romanian and what is he talking about?
The whole Alpha Male thing is gross. It's just a cover for insecurity. Just like anywhere else in nature, the more something has to puff up to look big, the weaker it actually is.
If you can't handle a partner being your equal and having ideas of their own, just don't have a relationship. Because you're not going to bring anything positive to that relationship, even if the person you're with buys into that kind of power dynamic.
well said!
Also nature is not all the same, not all gender constructs, if we can even call it gender, isnt the same as humans. Alot of life on this planet has dominate females, most males die early, their sole purpose is to pass on genetic material and thats it, once the job is done they are either eaten or their natural life ends.
Pretty much
Yea, I think them not being in committed relationships would even be fully good advice if it didn't also seem like they kind of crave that kind of love, they just, I don't know, aren't ready for all that that means yet. So maybe just holding off of relationships for a while or at least not chasing them as actively for a while.
“The more something has to puff up…the weaker it usually is”. Kinda like saying “bullies are cowards”
No.
Sometimes the thing “puffing up” really is big and bad and it’s giving you a warning. Likewise, sometimes that guy “acting tough” actually is tough.
That’s the kind of generalization and lie only spread by people justifying why they’re not physically intimidating.
This guy folded and went to the "my personal preference" defense awfully fast
Imagine not being married and not having kids, and trying to tell a person who is married and has kids that they don't love their children
I’m so confused how dudes like him and Sebastian himself saying men can’t love their children the same as their mothers but will bitch that men are “loosing custody or aren’t allowed or encouraged to be more Involved and loving to
Their children”, but says this shit. This dude is hurting
young men and will prevent them being the best fathers they can be without limitations on how to love them or doubt if they love them.
I don't think there's anything wrong with a single childless person doing that. The problem is when he has no point to make and is just a bad person I think lol
And H3 us poster boy of a married guy?
Lol
I mean, there are families where the partner suppresses their distaste for having a family and instead of logically talking about it with their partner or avoid having children in the first place or just not marry forcefully, they hide it. BUT, I am convinced Ethan is a good man and he does care about his family and the kid had no right to make assumptions.
Imagine using no argument whatsoever but attacking someone's character to disqualify their opinion. This channel is full of rtards.
Privilege and narcissism made this child who he is. RIP
Cry harder🤣, jealousy for ppl more successful than u isn’t a good look
Sons of finance dads….
@@jeremyyamma4364 lmaoo
the interview was wild bc he’s like “you guys are trying to make me look bad. 😐” and then says “i think gay people choose to be gay” with his whole chest.
Unprovoked he said "like in public school where they make your kids be gay" ? Sir why did you bring that up
@@chillarypuff right like???? homophobic strays out of nowhere??? he was fumbling for his LIFE trying to do damage control to seem like he isn’t homophobic, but you don’t “keep track” of the growth of a community if you don’t have an obsession with them. he’s such an idiot. 💀
society conditions people to be gay to lower the population.. oh, my, gosh!!!
@@chillarypuffhe's used to dumb as parroting talking points working lol
Ethan is a literal millionaire with several successful businesses, a successful marriage and a family. All that is pretty inspiring.
Yeah but he is chubby in his 30's. Therefore he is a *failure*!!! Buy my drop shipping products.
-Grifter Bois
This alpha male is inspiring me to get fatter.
I just sat here and listened to him speak for 30 minutes. He's a fucking idiot, I don't care how much money he has. I'm sure his wife hates his guts 😂
The age range of 13-25 is the ripe age for falling into bad mindsets and fascism. Like this isn't a joke, that is the best age range to rope people into toxic head spaces that will take YEARS to break out of. This dude reminds me of some of the friends I have literally SAVED from going down the bigot rabbit hole of thinking.
This. I will forever be grateful for my HS history teacher who actually taught me how to think critically and for myself
How did you save them? I'd like pointers to help out some of my friends and family.
@@alissaspafford8846 same, i would love to know 😅
You're a true modern day Messiah, praise be to you.
I tried to save some friends I knew, but it was literally impossible, especially for the one who died recently.
He keeps stating things so confidently then immediately backs down when Ethan asks them to look it up 😂
It's almost like the confidence is the only thing he has.
@@Praisethesunsonthe pretense. He's got zero backup for anything.
Ethan really owned him in 20 seconds
legit, dude got owned in less than half a minute. And it's not as if Ethan is some master debater (correct me if I'm wrong lol) this is even funnier to me, especially coming from an "Alpha Male" who I assume spends the majority of his time online defending what he's putting out there
ethan only debates people who he knows he can beat. Thats why he continues to duck sneako
@@scoobydarqq5832 sneako would get owned by anyone in a debate he legit admitted to being a cuck
@@scoobydarqq5832 Ethan has no reason to debate anyone that’s banned on his own platform. No way in hell he’s going to Rumble to debate that goof
@@scoobydarqq5832 L take, sneako just wants attention, hes got a humiliation fetish 😂
Ethan is so right, his influence is far more harmful to men. Most women do know better and if they don’t they learn pretty quickly that men who speak and talk like this are not worth your time. I’m more likely to continue being happy and single than I would be to allow a man like that into my life. So continues the headlines of lonely men not having sex.
Ding ding! Every time I look at these "Alpha Male" types it just screams insecurity and small dick energy.
When you have to build your entire persona around being Alpha, who are you trying to convince?
It's just toxic masculinity, plain and simple. The worst part is that these people warp teenagers and that's what breeds the entitled incels.
can we talk about how sebastian’s frontal lobe isn’t even fully developed
That's why older man should be leading if we are going with your standards
I messaged my friend saying “his prefrontal cortex is sputtering rn” LMFAO
@@tdackjordan5873 a bit of reach, OP is making a joke about how this specific 24 year old is demonstrating that he has not critically thought about his opinions
can we talk about how lasan is scared of debating sneako
@@tdackjordan5873 As someone who hates the gerontocracy we currently live in - if you're advocating for a 24 year old to be president you should be thrown in the gulags
People aren't aware of one thing about Sebastian. HE'S LYING ABOUT GROWING UP POOR. His father is an oncologist and Vice President at Astrazeneca, immigrant or not he always lived a cushy life. In his entire life he didn't do anything remarkable or of substance. He lives off of daddy's money.
It also means to he has the resources to take risks that others can not.
Strange because his father is in the oncology department at the highest level, and everything is written about innovation and science. And here is such a dumb son who lives in the Middle Ages
@@lrock48 lying isn’t a risk taken, well it is if your viewers research him, which is in the minority of 14 year olds.
oh wow what a fucking shocker there. bro is living in his daddys shadow so he’s trying to get in on the tate grift
Oncology is actually one of the least paid doctorate professions at the level, but being VP of Astrazeneca is a WILDLY different story lmao holy shit
I personally find Hila's new brand of confidence extremely inspiring. For a lot of women, there is a very real fear that having children = destroying your body. There are so many concerns like, will I be able to lose the weight, be covered in stretch marks, will my tits get jacked up? Especially for moms over 30. To see a woman gracefully recover in a realistic timespan eases a lot of anxiety
(limited) studies have shown that older women get less stretch marks from pregnancies than younger women.
True, it helps me mentally.
yeah, it is even inspiring to me, and i dont want to ever have children. Just seeing women being confident, no matter who they are, makes me feel very confident myself. It's very inspiring
You do realized that we lose calcium more than men does by 60% throughout our lifetime right? It is basic thing in anatomy class anyway. Then would lose more while being pregnant. Our female bodies is for breeding sure but it doesn’t mean you won’t loose a lot of minerals throughout the pregnancy. It is permanent damage. Osteoporosis will knock our doors faster than men no matter what.
@@Lastskykey hmm i dont know about the whole calcium thing youre talking about, but one thing i know for sure - my female body is not "for breeding". No woman is "made for breeding", and this type of description is really disgusting
Nothing is funnier than a literal child thinking they know everything about life they have never lived.
The problem I have with "traditional" guys is not that they want submissive women. The problem is they almost never hold up to their end of that bargain. Providing financially, making life decisions that put their family first, etc. They harp on and on about being the alpha but often than not they are just insecure losers who want to live like a king without actually fulfilling their responsibilities.
I think he is someone who wants to be in charge of finances in a relationship, I think its normal for one part of a relationship to be the person who files taxes/pay bills/etc. But idk why he's acting like gender has anything to do with this, just let a woman know what you're looking for and if they're okay with it, great
Opposite actually in the west most women expect traditional men when they r not traditional themselves. Most average hardworking men that just try to provide for their families r not even looked at by modern women who have such high standards mostly bc of social media inflating their egos while offering nothing except sex. Most modern women hoe around, r masculine and argumentative and don’t bring anything to the table mostly bc they have never needed to bc they’ll be some simp that wants them yet expect the a man way above their level🤣
@@chillarypuff he expects his wife to be a subservient house slave but then will be mad that she doesn't contribute financially at the same time
Women don’t want to be submissive, also women are making more money than men in general so they have a higher expectation from what the norm is.
@@edithputhy4948 typical women response of equating division of responsibility to slavery
“Just imagine a scenario where your husband comes and consults you for everything” -Lol yeah bro, it’s called an equal partnership. We both have say in the matter. That’s the point lol
Lmao it’s hilarious and sad he thought women *wouldn’t* want that. I mean, I guess there are some who don’t so I won’t speak for them, but I definitely want to be consulted before major decisions are made and also would consult my husband.
LITERALLY I heard that and thought “yes that’s good and ideal, I am playing an active role in what we’re doing together. How the fuck is that bad”
It’s not a partnership which is another lie in modern day dating. Women usually like a guy better than them in every way including height and money and expect it to be a partnership 🤣
@@maskedentrepreneur22 wtf does height or money have to do with anything 💀💀. “Oh I’m taller than you and make more money, so you listen to me and that’s it”. Get it together bro
@@LT_0403 u don’t understand lmao most modern women want a man better than them in most ways including height, pays for every thing, is stronger etc. and then thinks it is a partnership.🤣
He really gives the game away. ‘Talk back to me’. That’s old school. Attitude could mean. ‘I don’t want to be disrespected. I don’t want to be abused or nagged.’ He could have put it like that’s. Talk back means shut up woman, know your place. Young punks following these ‘alphas’ need to know women will react badly to that. Attitude never means has a different opinion to you. Talk back. The language of domestic abuse really. These creeps are looking for women to abuse. Who put up with this crap.
This is what my ex would say to me. Because I had a point of view different from his and expressed it, he said I was “disrespectful”. It was a wild time in my life. So glad that’s over
There's nothing punk about those pathetic loners, other than that you're 100% right
@@monicarenee7949 im glad too babe
Good for you. Very old fashioned. But it wasn’t long ago men. Especially working class men, they thought that was normal. Like the Rolling Stones song. ‘The change has come, under my thumb’. Women as property. It’s revolting. And any woman must think. ‘If I do ‘talk back’ what happens?’. Warning lights must be going off when a guy says that.
And then of course if she's wrong about something, it's not him talking back or being disrespectful.
"The difference is that I'm right."
This guy is a perfect showcase for narcissistic behaviour. Narcissists tend to react to criticism in a certain way: the insult/attack you on a personal level. They try to change the conversation topic to you and your person so the other side starts to defend themselves and forget the criticism they issued in the beginning. The tick tock dude keeps trying it throughout the entire conversation. My boss does this and he sometimes really loses his shit if his strategie does not work with me or other co workers because we stay on topic and ignore his personal attacks. If you learn to track this behaviour and react to it properly, you will see it so fucking often, especially at work.
I used to TA for a class teaching little kids German, they were between 9 and 12 years old. We partnered them for a project randomly and one of the duos was a boy and a girl. The girl was reading out the directions for their project and because the kids aren't native speakers, she was going a little slowly and pronouncing a couple of things wrong. The boy started being really cruel and making fun of her and then calling all girls stupid and dumb. I separated them and held him back after class. Turns out he had heard his big brother (17) and his dad spouting crazy misogynistic takes like this. I asked him if he thought his mother was stupid or dumb which seemed to give him pause. He apologised to the girl of his own accord later but it just shows how toxic and dangerous this kind of rhetoric is, where 10 year old little boys spew misogyny freely.
You’re such a beta male 😂
My favorite part of all this is him going, "Your brand is dying, Ethan." Only to then later tweet how shocked he was that over 30 thousand people saw the podcast live.
Why're you going by numbers?
@@DarkArch-Angel um because a stadium worth of people watching Ethan is a pretty tangible metric of how successful he is. Especially when Sebastian himself called out Ethan's numbers.
@@avatardecadewho Ok? And tbh I don’t think Ethan should be on this platform anyway due to his history.
@@DarkArch-Angel and yet he is, so what's your point?
@@avatardecadewho Uh, my point is, he doxxed someone live stream. During the whole Amouranth situation! Which, may I add, goes against TOS! Ring any bells!?
The women in the room: "I want an equal partnership"
The dude with a wife and kids: "I see my wife as an equal and she can do what she wants"
The bozo with zero prospects who's probably never even seen a nipple irl: "hmm I disagree"
It is quite hilarious how any viewpoint such as his is seen as "incel" or "virgin". As someone who has similiar viewpoints and is very vocal about them I have never had any issues with women. Surprisingly, I have been with women who held the same values and were absolute gems. Beautiful, respectful, family-oriented, submissive, and feminine. Normally the people who have problems with these ideas are generally unattractive, promiscuous, loud, career focused, and out-of-touch western women. 😂😂😂
@@thehungh0nkey853 what’s wrong with a woman being career focused? You don’t want a wife or a GF who gets money?
@@thehungh0nkey853 false the people that are ugly are normaly and most of the time from the red pill community and the left, have you seen ugly dudes with asymmetrical faces and overall ugly people that are on the right wing please.
@@thehungh0nkey853 My guy have you even watched the video ?
@@thehungh0nkey853 exactly lmao
“Imagine if EVERY time your partner has to make a decision he has to consult you”
Honestly that statement confirmed to me he’s never been in a real, adult relationship. Because that’s just…the bare minimum in terms of communication in a relationship? When you’re an adult who has rent/mortgage, grocery budget, you need to consult your partner who lives with you. Emotional stuff should also be addressed regularly; it’s just…the addition and subtraction of relationships.
This kid is inspiring men not to understand what dropshipping is, and I think that’s beautiful.
For real lol. I can't believe he admitted to drop shipping, but then couldn't describe the difference between it and "normal" product manufacturing. It probably broke his brain when Ethan brought up the iPhone argument
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When can we start drop shipping these alphas into war torn areas to test their masculinity?
Can someone explain dropshipping? I'm out of the loop on all this stuff. I'd like to say it's because I'm old (I'm mean, regrettably, I have started saying things like "Young man" and "Young lady"), but I've just not really had much interest in Internet culture or things borne of it. Certainly not a fan of social media, Internet celebrities, or podcasts. I only learned about Ethan less than a year ago, and only just subbed to him. As for Hasan, I only remember him from his short-lived TYT days as I have no use for Twitch... except I wouldn't mind checking out Joe Bartalozzi on there 😍😍
Idrk what drop shipping is and at this point I'm too afraid to ask
I used to work in retail, we’d drop ship stuff. It’s not a huge thing; I don’t know how guys would make a lot of money doing it.
So, my store sold snowboarding stuff. Let’s say someone wanted a Burton Snowboard. But they lived in…Pierre, SD. So it would be costly for them to travel to pick up the board. Since (at the time, I’m not sure it’s changed) Burton didn’t sell direct to the public, we would buy the board for the customer, and ship it to them, with a 40% mark up from what we bought it for.
Honestly? Normal retail shit. They are running on-line stores. Nothing hyper profitable, I wouldn’t think.
Can you imagine how well adjusted Sebastian would be today if he'd had Ethan as a role model when he was 12 years old? You're doing God's work, Ethan.
Nah he would be fat and useless
I grew up around the queer community because of my queer sibling who is 16 years my senior. The only person who ever touched me inappropriately as a child was a cishet white man who also happened to be a pastor and had nothing to do with my sibling or our community
Same lol I basically only grew up around lesbians and drag queens cause of my mom, and my super religious dad (they were never really together) said they were molesting me to try and fuck my mom over in the custody battle but it was HIS PASTOR FATHER lmaooooo 😹😹😹
The queer community is extremely conscious of people acting inappropriate and disrespecting boundaries, especially those of minors, because a lot of us have been victims of abuse such as corrective SA/R or love someone who has experienced it and we don't want anyone else to have to go through that shit, queer or not, child or adult. I have never felt safer anywhere than in queer spaces and communities.
@@Emma-Maze Exactly.
@@Emma-Mazesame, I came from a hella strict Christian family (abuse just goes with that) but Jon Borrowman showed me the way and set me free! Now I'm much happier living as myself and I'll happily throw myself in front of a Christian to protect my fellow rainbow brothers and sisters from that judgmental filth. 💜💙💖
@@Emma-MazeAlso since people tend to be significantly faster to point fingers at anyone in the community doing anything with children there's more of a sense of awareness let's say. One man's depravity could literally be the difference between you losing a community hangout spot and your personal safety being threatened. No p3d 0s are accepted in the community. People are more likely to make rash judgements too in some places. You could pick up a lost child in a mall to take it to the lost center and if you happen to have a rainbow badge you may just end up having the police called on you.
Lol, he tried to say he wanted equality in a relationship, then the chick said she wanted equality and he said "so I need to run every decision by you?" There it is, folks.
I like it when my wife doesn't call me dumb and ugly, as opposed to everyone else in the world.
Ethan’s very adult and paternal tone honestly made me feel respect towards him.
28:53 My bisexual ass was raised in a very hetero-normative, christian, conservative environment. I played the sports all the "straight alpha males" played like football. I dated girls only, because i was taught that was the way. Absolutely zero traumatic experiences involving abuse or unwanted sexual acts. Then once adulthood came, I started noticing I had attraction to females and males. It was just something I discovered I had, but kinda didn't notice till I came of age. But everyone around me was telling me that this was "the wrong way", so I had no influence whatsoever other than me being my authentic self.
Same experience for my bisexual ass. Played basketball as well as football(soccer for you yanks) throughout my entire childhood. No trauma or abuse. My parents told me they would "accept me whoever I would come home with", but cause of hetero-normative society, constant negative connotations with homosexuality and people using derogatory slurs all the way through my entire childhood, you just still kind of believe thats "not an option"
Once you get older and you start figuring it out it's kind of a what the fuck moment, took me a while accept it for myself aswell cause of that.
Same experience here! Except I’m a woman
Homophobes try to make a coherent argument challenge [IMPOSSIBLE] [3AM]
A weird question i have for bisexual people. Assuming for straight people the endgame per say is a family with children . What is yours? Would you choose getting a wife over a husband for the ability to have children? Just a light question to understand your perspective, dont take it too seriously.
@@sakispdsw Do straight men choose a wife based on their fertility health? If she's infertile and cannot produce an heir for your clan do you tell the church she's barren I need one who isn't broken?
Or do you just choose who you love and would want the family with because it's the year of lord 2023 and there's like, a whole industry of options for you to start a family if things don't pan out to go the easist route.
Its actually very simple. Just say “I want a woman who has modesty” and there are modest women. Marry them if they agree to marriage.
Just don’t say women should or shouldn’t do.
But he doesn't want that. He wants a woman who's overtly sexual to him, and then he wants to possess and control her.
it's the mind set of it all really. He sees random women and thinks these things about them, if he had a daughter he would implement these standards onto her.
I find it hilarious that this toddler thinks he knows anything
When I was 22 I didn't know jack shit about life. He is very much still a child.
@@kadencoates8774 Same. No one knows shit about shit at 22.
Doesn't mean you aren't occasionally right but it's mostly on accident, broken clock and all.
Dude I *am* 22 and I know I'm dumb as shit
I give myself a lot of shit for my earlier years (I am nearly 40), but that guy (Sebastian?) makes my 22-year-old self seem genuinely impressive by comparison. Never mind doing the work, that guy does not even know what the work looks like.
I think it's cuz he's calling put certain women that exist that Hassan hates to call out due to his white knight syndrome
Just as it’s his personal preference for his significant other to not dress provocatively, it’s their personal preference to not date him.
And those personal preferences are 100% based in his personal insecurity.
@@666kittycat666 hes insecure because he doesn't want his girl to be dressed like a slut
Ngl, this is the perfect counter. I am writing this into my brain and quote you whenever I need it.
@@alphaalex8821 lol Alpha Alex.... shiver me timbers
LBR this kid sees women as status objects, if he was walking down the street with his girl and people WEREN'T staring at her because she's hot, he'd be fucking pissed.
Sebass has been dating his gf for a year. She just turned 18, he’s 24. You do the math.
It’s sad to see young men like this guy focus their energy on this insecure trend.
I’m a Cis-white-straight-Christian-man & my wife is my best friend, my partner and we both respect each other without treating either one of us like a child.
Ethan should’ve gone harder, even if it looks like ableism, sometimes it’s gotta be done ✅
Preach! We have to fight these harmful rhetorics by spreading love and positivity around us !
You’re a loser 😂
ableism?
I’m sorry the moment where he said “imagine for every decision he has to make he comes to consult you” really sent me- like.. yea? What else is there to do in a marriage with two grown adults?
I think it was supposed to come across as hyperbole, as in "Imagine he had to come to you to choose when he had to go brush his own teeth" kind of thing, but it's so absurd an alternative that it just falls flat as a counter. Plus, he was trying to conflate "submission" with "trust" while doing that, which made very little sense in this context.
i just loved it how ethan didn't bite on this guys attempts to rile him up, especially when he kept calling him childish (which is a common button-presser and a good way to get someone to react angrily). Ethan just completely ignored it and continued to argue the point he was making.
That part at the end there was just the icing on the humiliating cake... "i have more humility than you do" LOL
Repeating yourself and acting disingenuous is very childish. I do think "i have more humility than you do" is kinda self defeating but Ethan did not argue well
@@okerutakehashi706 i didn't always agree with the way ethan responded at times but i think overall he did pretty well
This is like a normal rational man talking to a middle schooler with insecurity issues & really rich parents.
I'm loving the delicious irony of a 24 year old explaining that a wife (something he doesn't have) should get enough validation simply from him...as he posts to social media and looks to analytics around view counts and drags out anecdotes of men thanking him for changing their lives. I guess he needs a bit more validation than his partner (?) can provide.
Here's a little secret, you don't have to be an inspiration for anyone. A person's value is not contingent on whether or not they inspire people online. One can simply live their life in a way that makes them happy and fulfilled without marketing themselves as a lifestyle coach for disaffected youth.
for sure, you can also just be simply an entertainer. but i think ethan is a great role model, he preaches to just be civil and respectful to anyone despite their ethnicity, gender, sexuality or religion
@@GalaxyNina OP isn't commenting about Ethan.
Kinda in the same tone as 'the best revenge is living well'. Just be a good freaking person and maybe your image will work out without having to try and jump out there and post your advice tiktoks.
Honestly the best comment I've seen, agreed 100%
This kid breaks my brain. "You need humility." "IM THE MOST HUMBLE BITCH HERE"
I’m literally younger than him with 0 relationship experience and I could 100% guarantee my relationship advice would be one thousand percent better and healthier than what lil’ bro is saying
If you're worried about your girlfriend/wife/whatever dressing "provocatively" when she's out alone, maybe that should be a wake up call that you don't trust her not to hook up with the first dude that hits on her. And why don't you trust her? Either you treat her like trash so she isn't worried about losing you or she never planned on sticking around in the first place. But keep trying to overcompensate for that insecurity by pretending to be "alpha" lmao.
On the flip side there's nothing inherently wrong with preferring a partner that has more modest sensibilities when it comes to dressing up, but when you force those standards onto your partner that's about as wrong as forcing them to expose themselves in public more than they're comfortable with. Just be normal and look for a partner who already wants the same out of the relationship that you do, if you do that there's no need for bullshit lines like "I wouldn't allow her to" when it comes to expected behavior in that relationship.
@@fluidthought42 This is an extremely reasonable take. If you have preferences, that is your life and your choice.
But as you said, it's when you try to force your expectations of what you would expect in a partner onto another person that is the issue.
You don't need to treat your partner like trash for them to decide to cheat on you.
@@tofuchahan6316 If you're so controlling that you're telling your partner what they can/can't wear, there's clearly no foundation of trust there in the first place. So why be in the relationship? Trying to control someone is just going to make them leave faster.
@@account-pending-deletion There are people who do everything fine and still get cheated on anyways its not a rare occurrence either
if anyone’s life has improved because of that kid and his dumb content… I actually can’t imagine how sad their life was before. tragic.
They have to be like 15
When they say "my life has improved" they just mean they feel good about their deranged worldviews now.
Only a ten your old would look to a 20 year old for ife advice lol
Same goes for Hassan
@@tonyonaperky2128 how so?
“Fat = not respecting yourself” is a wild thing to say. Naturally being overweight isn’t healthy, but I wouldn’t go so far as to say the person just doesn’t care about themselves 😂
It does show lack of self care, motivation, and general laziness. If they understood how better they would feel, look, and how much they would learn from proper nutrition and fitness it is embarassing not to do so.
I mean I eat mostly junk food, drink more coffee than water and never work out but I'm not fat. but apparently I'm respecting my own body lol
I wouldn't go that far, but it does show a lack of discipline not caring about the long term effects on your health.
this whole weight as an indication of health thing is so stupid. plenty of people who are overweight are healthier than skinnier people. i can say wholeheartedly as someone skinny, i am not healthy.
Cope😂
He's a hypocrite, he wants his "wife" to be modest, and yet he posts shirtless pics. He has a weird illusion of grandeur and his only way of debating is by using ad hominems. Also, he was desperate for Ethan to say he's a role model 🤣.
Classic signs of narcissism. Which most younger guys who think like this definitely have.
Ethan's wife is a whole baddie and the youngster is trying to have a take. Bro Ethan is the template in this regard
Seeing guys like my father shitting out this "alpha male" content and they're around my age makes me lose faith. However, seeing other guys destroying these dudes' ideas gives me a sense of optimism.
They want to ridicule the incels because they are men, I assure you that if they were females these jokes would not exist.But it's okay we incels accept this injustice of mockery for the lack of sexual activity because we know that we are going to laugh at the end because everything balances out at the end.This society views in sexuality is a mess women are the new god of the 21 century female approval is vital today and all "normal" men do whatever it takes to have it.notice how there is not male equivalent of a pick-me because the average men is the best and most extreme representation of a pick me.
Yeah, people don’t realize, another big audience is lonely men getting into their midlife crisis. Divorcés especially, they start getting into the idea that some people “get it” and they don’t; there’s totally a pipeline from angry guys ranting in their trucks on Facebook, to grifter pickup artists and bs RedPill podcasts.
That's how I felt working in dog sled racing seeing other people my age doing stupid, cruel, outdated bs to win races.
A friend posted this "what makes a high value woman " shit the other day. I sent him a message telling him it was incel thinking and really scary. He tried to say it was about fitness
My father is a whole bum living on his mothers couch spewing this red pill nonsense. The man had one job his whole life and kept it for 4 months. He’s relied on the women in the family to take care of him while beating on them and spewing hatred. I don’t take any of these losers seriously.
Dudes like that are why women like me are happier alone. It’s just not worth the trouble anymore when I can be so much happier doing my own thing. Insecure guys are such a fucking problem and they need to grow up. That is why the suicide rates are high. Admit the truth and then grow or you will suffer more and more until you die alone. Women know there is better now and we don’t want to settle for insecure abusive guys. Heal first dude.
Just don't date 24 year olds who know they're hot. Plenty of actual good dudes out there
Guy was like "I just wanna be left alone so I won't be criticized for how I abuse my wife by controlling every aspect of it and limiting who she interacts with."
💯
you really dont get to play the whole 'I wanna be left alone' card when your a content creator who makes hundreds of statements on how people should live their lives.
"I'm not redpill"
*Proceeds to describe redpill behaviour*
Its wild to see how mild their takes get in actual debates. Like they know what they advertise is insane so when they come here they're like "well I would like my girlfriend to be nice to me"
Motte and Bailey
yeah it's like nah fam if you say it say it with your whole chest
@@fluidthought42 it took a lot of googling to figure out what you’re saying here but you are absolutely correct
It's because they don't actually know what their views are. They shout stuff without thinking, and then when someone challenges them, they might actually think about it a little for the first time.
"It's just my preference to be controlling and abusive"
"I like them inexperienced, small and defenceless"
"Women have this kind of love for their children that nobody else in the world can understand"
"Are you saying Hila loves my kids more than me?"
"No I'm saying your love is different"
Dude couldn't even stay consistent within 10 seconds
This part made me able to read exactly what his relationship with his mother is like tbh. Very coddled, it’s giving mamas boy.
@@mariafancypants Yes! He doesn't see his mother a full human being, he sees her the way a baby sees a security blanket.
In his mind, her entire existence is to make him feel good because "that's what a mother's job is to do"
its true tho, mums love for the kid is different and thats a fact.. think about it... 9 months inside the body and even giving birth to that human is incredible.. something the father could never experience so yeh sebastian is 100% on that one
it is true tho, parent's love is almost always unconditional. I don't understand what he said was weird
When he says women love kids more, what I hear him saying is that’s why I won’t have to change any diapers or other work to care for my own kids.
As a pansexual in their 30s there was plenty of LGBTQ+ kids I went to school with but we kept it to ourselves because of the backlash. We've always been there people are just coming out easier now. Also knew I was pan when I was in first grade, it didnt have a label cause I had no idea what gay was, just knew I liked girl and boy classmates.
Exactly this. Before people would lose their job, get shunned from society or even get murdered if you came out. No wonder people didn't come up. I don't understand how that's so difficult to understand?
The first pride literally happened because the police came in and attacked people chilling at a gay bar.
Yea and 30% isnt that much with the amount of different queer labels. Not every queer person is trans nonbinary gay ace poly or a variant. Its usually like 1 or 2 and a lot of them overlap with hetro behavior. So even if it was 70%, people aren't going to die out. It is a neutral thing