I'm relieved that I took time and read the comments because I had the same confusion that the poster had. Your final response clarified and removed my confusion about the point of no return and the prodigal son.
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I like that I have options to learn differently from you & a few others on youtube. But this message hit home w/ me, as what you talk about did actually happen to me. I was pushing the envelope to the point of no return, but I was fortunate to discern some warnings to change my course of action. Thanks for clarifying what I went through.
A very dangerous and difficult sermon to preach! One might ask you, "well Mike, what about the prodigal son and Jesus telling us we should forgive someone 7 x 70. The message you are sending is very discouraging. You are telling people/backsliders forget it. There's no hope. You cannot be regenerated. Your might as well prepare yourself for hell. I was very disappointed listening to this message and think you need some explaining to do to those who follow your ministry, such as myself. Tim B
If you would like, I can provide book, chapter and verses for you? This is one of the things i did not like about the Church of Christ, or at least the one I went to or at least some of the ways a verse would be manipulated or contorted. There may be other messages to this verse other than the one you preached. Based upon your message ( I was a backslider big time) I have returned to the Lord better than I was before. Are you telling me my worship is in vain? There is no hope? Prepare for hell? Based on my long hours of study (years actually) consulting MHCC and other credible sources, it seems to me I was the wandering sheep but Jesus found me, again. Or, I returned to the sheep pen. Praise God!
Hi Tim, Thanks for your feedback on this difficult lesson to preach and to receive. The main point of this sermon is the Bible teaches that there exists a point of no return (unlike our Baptist friends who claim it is impossible to be lost once we become Christians). Obviously you never reached that point because you turned back, much like the lesson of the Prodigal son demonstrates that it is possible to do. In that parable Jesus teaches that when a person returns to Christ he is also restored to full sonship with all its rights and blessings (this is the significance of the son being given sandals for his feet, a ring and a robe). The best part of the parable is the rejoicing that takes place signifying that the father also gives back to his son the right to be happy again and make merry. I'm not sure where you picked up the idea that a repentant Christian is rejected by God because this is not at all the point of this lesson. The hard part of this teaching is the difficult notion that it is possible (through rebellion, sin and refusal to repent) for a once faithful Christian to become so hard-hearted that he is no longer capable of repentance, and thus lost - not that God refuses to take back an unfaithful Christian. Hope this clarifies my intentions with this lesson. Regards, Mike
Thank you very much for responding. My anxiety is gone. I was truly afraid that I could have need eternally lost with no hope for forgiveness. Mike, I am following your ministry on TH-cam and look forward to many more sermons. Tim
Tim Brimer I agree with you but when I reread this I noticed how it's true someone can say well mike what about the prodigal son and Jesus telling us we should forgive some 7x 10 first off all what does 7x 10 mean second I thought to my self wait is it the same way how when we just can't forgive someone for what they've done after we forgave them multiple times is it the same as God not forgiving us ? Help me because I can be wrong because of the fact the with God anything is possible and if he sees in our hearts we have changed wait omg never mind as I'm typing this I noticed something ok so like I was saying we forgave that person multiple times we feel like we can't give them another chance but if we see in them over time that they've really changed there heart their personality everything isn't it the same as God seing us like that ? but I remember a phrase not sure how it went but the point of it was that after we were at the point of no return that ment that our heart had just become very cold hearted and will live a life of guiltiness for out sin but I may be wrong like I said because I'm not into this but i really want to be I what to change me life i believe in eveything in the Bible I don't want to loose faith it's just that I feel like I've reached the point of no return and no another time than this I really need help from any one to explain this to me please I beg you reply I need to know i do feel different but I really want to change that I want to be the old me that I use to be I completely want to change my life I am ready I just turned 17 please reply help me and thank you :)
BibleTalk.tv wait ok I feel like I've past the point of no return because of the fact that I now fully know right from wrong and still did it I'm talking about drugs but after that day I wanted to stoped I cryied the next day tbh I don't know why I just felt sad because I was so confused not feeling the same way as I use to feel but you said that the point of no return happened thru refuse if repeating your sins and 2 more things I have never done those things in my life i have accepted that I have sined and I am sorry for it it's just I don't know if it's in my head but I don't feel the same mabye thru time I will but I need help and want an answer please PLEAse help me I want to have a good relationship with God I belive eveything he's told me and agian just please this could even change my distiny I ask for your help just want for you to explain to me I am a very fast learner and sure I will understand what you say please help me is refusing to repent your sins the only way of point of no return ? Or knowing right from wrong and still doing it ? But like I said I really want to change after that Please Help me I have repented from my sins is that enough ?
I'm relieved that I took time and read the comments because I had the same confusion that the poster had. Your final response clarified and removed my confusion about the point of no return and the prodigal son.
If you would like to ask a question or make a comment about the material presented in this video, please use the contact form at this link: bibletalk.tv/contact/video/GdSYhZv7ds0
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I like that I have options to learn differently from you & a few others on youtube. But this message hit home w/ me, as what you talk about did actually happen to me. I was pushing the envelope to the point of no return, but I was fortunate to discern some warnings to change my course of action. Thanks for clarifying what I went through.
Please pray for me
A very dangerous and difficult sermon to preach! One might ask you, "well Mike, what about the prodigal son and Jesus telling us we should forgive someone 7 x 70. The message you are sending is very discouraging. You are telling people/backsliders forget it. There's no hope. You cannot be regenerated. Your might as well prepare yourself for hell.
I was very disappointed listening to this message and think you need some explaining to do to those who follow your ministry, such as myself.
Tim B
If you would like, I can provide book, chapter and verses for you? This is one of the things i did not like about the Church of Christ, or at least the one I went to or at least some of the ways a verse would be manipulated or contorted. There may be other messages to this verse other than the one you preached. Based upon your message ( I was a backslider big time) I have returned to the Lord better than I was before. Are you telling me my worship is in vain? There is no hope? Prepare for hell? Based on my long hours of study (years actually) consulting MHCC and other credible sources, it seems to me I was the wandering sheep but Jesus found me, again. Or, I returned to the sheep pen. Praise God!
Hi Tim,
Thanks for your feedback on this difficult lesson to preach and to receive. The main point of this sermon is the Bible teaches that there exists a point of no return (unlike our Baptist friends who claim it is impossible to be lost once we become Christians).
Obviously you never reached that point because you turned back, much like the lesson of the Prodigal son demonstrates that it is possible to do. In that parable Jesus teaches that when a person returns to Christ he is also restored to full sonship with all its rights and blessings (this is the significance of the son being given sandals for his feet, a ring and a robe). The best part of the parable is the rejoicing that takes place signifying that the father also gives back to his son the right to be happy again and make merry.
I'm not sure where you picked up the idea that a repentant Christian is rejected by God because this is not at all the point of this lesson.
The hard part of this teaching is the difficult notion that it is possible (through rebellion, sin and refusal to repent) for a once faithful Christian to become so hard-hearted that he is no longer capable of repentance, and thus lost - not that God refuses to take back an unfaithful Christian.
Hope this clarifies my intentions with this lesson.
Regards,
Mike
Thank you very much for responding. My anxiety is gone. I was truly afraid that I could have need eternally lost with no hope for forgiveness.
Mike, I am following your ministry on TH-cam and look forward to many more sermons.
Tim
Tim Brimer I agree with you but when I reread this I noticed how it's true someone can say well mike what about the prodigal son and Jesus telling us we should forgive some 7x 10 first off all what does 7x 10 mean second I thought to my self wait is it the same way how when we just can't forgive someone for what they've done after we forgave them multiple times is it the same as God not forgiving us ? Help me because I can be wrong because of the fact the with God anything is possible and if he sees in our hearts we have changed wait omg never mind as I'm typing this I noticed something ok so like I was saying we forgave that person multiple times we feel like we can't give them another chance but if we see in them over time that they've really changed there heart their personality everything isn't it the same as God seing us like that ? but I remember a phrase not sure how it went but the point of it was that after we were at the point of no return that ment that our heart had just become very cold hearted and will live a life of guiltiness for out sin but I may be wrong like I said because I'm not into this but i really want to be I what to change me life i believe in eveything in the Bible I don't want to loose faith it's just that I feel like I've reached the point of no return and no another time than this I really need help from any one to explain this to me please I beg you reply I need to know i do feel different but I really want to change that I want to be the old me that I use to be I completely want to change my life I am ready I just turned 17 please reply help me and thank you :)
BibleTalk.tv wait ok I feel like I've past the point of no return because of the fact that I now fully know right from wrong and still did it I'm talking about drugs but after that day I wanted to stoped I cryied the next day tbh I don't know why I just felt sad because I was so confused not feeling the same way as I use to feel but you said that the point of no return happened thru refuse if repeating your sins and 2 more things I have never done those things in my life i have accepted that I have sined and I am sorry for it it's just I don't know if it's in my head but I don't feel the same mabye thru time I will but I need help and want an answer please PLEAse help me I want to have a good relationship with God I belive eveything he's told me and agian just please this could even change my distiny I ask for your help just want for you to explain to me I am a very fast learner and sure I will understand what you say please help me is refusing to repent your sins the only way of point of no return ? Or knowing right from wrong and still doing it ? But like I said I really want to change after that Please Help me I have repented from my sins is that enough ?