Thanks To Playstation, I'm Now Pro-Piracy
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Crazy. I've been ripping stuff to Minidisc for years. Thought I was the only one. Bought a deck a few years back. Hooked up through optical. I listen to something on Spotify I like I hit record on my minidisc player. That simple.
I am back again on tape casset after I got myself a "We Are Rewind"
@MarquisDeSang Cool but anything new in the cassette space is junk. No Dolby NR and the cassette mechanism is garbage. Do a lil research on something older from the 90s. Way better quality.
might be a silly question, but why not rip it to your phone and play it there instead of buying a MD? i sail the 7 seas to find my treasure then send it to my phone for playback, is there a difference?
@@MarquisDeSangdude cassette tapes have awful, awful analog audio. That is an honest to dig god downgrade from basically anything else available. Just why. Even a regular 320mbps compressed cd sounds far better than a cassette tape.
@@MrQ12elveYour phone can brick, then the entire collection is gone.
Honestly say it with me fellas,
“If buying isn’t owning, then piracy isn’t stealing.”
If buying isn't owning piracy isn't stealing!🫡
If buying isn't owning, then piracy isn't stealing sir!
If buying isn't owning, then piracy isn't stealing 🫡
IF BUYING ISN'T OWING, THEN PIRACY ISN'T STEALING!!!
If buying isn’t owning, then piracy isn’t stealing
If buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing.
I like that logic.
When tyrrany becomes law rebellion becomes duty
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But what if those you steal from never stole from you? Sony did this, so you can justify stealing from them, but that doesn't mean it's okay to steal from everyone.
I'm guessing like the muppet that created the video you don't realise that any media be it games, music, films, series or whatever you purchase you don't own and the publisher always reserves the right to remove the use of the service. Its been like this since waaay back, probably before you were born. 🙄
As the creator of Steam once said, "Piracy isn't a pricing issue, it's a user experience issue.", and "The easiest way to stop piracy is not by putting antipiracy technology to work. It's by giving those people a service that's better than what they're receiving from the pirates."
And this means absolutely nothing because steam is arguably the most pirated outside mobile.
I remember a puzzle game dev being so happy his game got pirated like around 1 million compared to selling a few thousand copies on steam, he was just happy people liked his game.
gog is a prime example of good service
The whole country of Brazil would disagree with that
What a load of $hit.
I have no issues with people taking a stand against multi billion corporations, but let me remind people..
The piracy and torrenting during the PSP days were insane. !diots who are suddenly taking the moral high ground when in fact during the more Sony consumer friendly days of the PSP, the PSP was pirated like crazy, hence why support from third parties dried up, hence hurting the software sales.
The double standards is real. People will pirate irregardless of what Sony or these corporations do.
People pirate because they can, not because of morality and ownership issues. If anyone believes people pirate because of the aforementioned reasons are extremely deluded.
It says more about those people who pirate because it is convenient to do so rather than the system itself.
This is gold
I've gone in a full circle for digital piracy. When I was young, I pirated everything. Films, games, music. As I got older and got my job I purchased them and now, with big companies fleecing your money for content that you legally purchased I am back to piracy.
We need to fight the "You will own nothing and be happy" companies.
I'm just glad people are waking up to the WEF agenda. They'd make you rent your clothing if they could get away with it.
same brother, i been borrowing friends cd games apps music to burn as a kid, been sailing the 7 seas in my mids and now in my later years in life i started to buy my games, so i can take it off my HDD + external HDD... its a good trade off sometimes e.g shadow of war is on sale for under $6 and it frees up 70gb of my external but the way things are i still take to sail here and there hahah
Well said, Rich.
The All-Digital future REALLY needs to come with some consumer protections.
Right now, the switch to all-digital is 100% to the advantage of the big companies out there, not consumers.
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It was always about giving big corporations more power at the expense of the consumer, they just managed to convince people the so-called convenience was worth it.
I said this 12 years ago when I first lost all the music I bought on iTunes because I swapped to android and couldn't access it. Then when consoles started selling games for $99 digital and $79 physical, plus if I didn't like the game I could only get refund for physical games (within 7days, no questions asked). When I finished it I could resell the physical copy for $20 less, but digital I was stuck with. It was ALWAYS an anti-consumer movement.
Filesharing is a pretty big benefit. Me on TH-cam having as big of a platform as the richest media companies is a pretty good benefit... All the news media in the world being corrupt but independent journalism showing the truth is a giant benefit... We might have half the population on the planet right now if there was no independent journalism. The pandemic was planned to kill way more people than it did. A dozen or so corrupt scientists were made to seem like that was scientific consensus while many thousands of doctors and experts were silenced on social media and mass media... Now independent journalists on TH-cam and rumble, substack, etc. have bigger audiences than any mass media news channels since the truth was so easily shown and proved that the mass news media to be completely untrustworthy to a deadly degree.
This is why physical media is important. For all the people that say everything is going to be digital only, are you going to defend this?
90% bought it digitally in NA. They don’t want to own everything takes up space as the older you get.
@therealjaystone2344 It takes up more space but at least I still own all my games lol though with how many games I've accumulated over 27 years of life now can fill more than one book shelf.
Some call it hoarding I call it a man cave masterpiece though I don't play games that much anymore here and there I'll play an new game but I mainly just enjoy to look at my game collection now and buy some to add to it here and there.
@@bigbadchevy I heard that there are games that, even if you use the disc to start, require online connection to play the game at all - even though they're single player. I think they're addressing maintaining a gaming library with new releases being how they are, not your n64.
Plus, if you're on PC, good luck with physical media these days...
@@therealjaystone2344 At least you actually OWN the game. If you buy a game digitally, even though you paid for it out of your own money, you are essentially 'renting' or 'leasing' the game. You down own it.
@paragon92 I wasn't even born yet when the n64 came out thank you! And yes I know what he was talking about but my comment was from someone else's comment about physical media taking up space the older you get..... In general I've never bought digital and my parents didn't buy me cards to get games digital I've always owned physical. Online only single player-ish games have been a thing since ps4.
First backwards compatibility, now preservation piracy. Finally coming around mate👍
@TheReturnOfJMVEntertainment Yep.. I buy my games by the way but these companies are going way to far with the anti consumers practices..
well now you just made it too obvious who still is petty about anything xbox related 💀
next thing you know is piracy returning to its glory days, and it was expected, the more you take away from the consumers own things, the more it will be better to pirate it and be done
Big Preservation Piracy energy
Who really cares about backwards compatibility.
This is why I always go with physical video games if it's an option. If you love indie games, getting them on physical does cost a whole lot more, but at least you own them forever. With digital, there is always a chance that they'll take it away from you. That chance may be super slim most of the time, but even for the products that seem the safest of all, it's still probably only a matter of time before even those are taken from you. Times change, and nobody can predict the future. Your digital purchase may be there for 25 years, then one day you're informed that you'll no longer be able to access certain legacy products, and yours just happens to be on that list.
That sounds like a plan
When it comes shows and stuff, I always have this thought process:
If it's within your means, buy the dvd/bluray version
If you can't afford the physical disc (because sometimes physical copies of full seasons of shows are absurdly expensive), then rip or screen record the shows.
If you're already paying for the streaming service, then you might as well record a local copy for yourself just in case.
If you cant do any of that?
I unironically like Amazon's selection of downloadable mp3 music. There's DRM free stuff on the regular store for download and sometimes I find CD version of albums that are cheaper than the mp3 version of the album.
@@karisasani7006 Little trick that you can use get obs, On plug or turn off any microphone you have hooked up to your pc. Go to whatever streaming service You used that trips your trigger, Full screen and play the video you want to record. Hit the record button that you have on your keyboard 40BS and just let it go. Come back when the video is done stop the recording save it and Walla. You now have that movie stored to your computer move it over to a Storage drive and as long as you don't get a magnet near it you're good to go even if that streaming service removes that video. Just make sure you never share it. The laws protect you for copying for personal use but the second you give it away or share it in any form now you're a criminal
I am very proud of the massive library of movies anime and video games I have collected throughout my life. There is no way anyone can ever disable a service so I can never play any of them again. Well except for the old live service games, Or games with life service aspects to them. But beyond that every single one of them is still playable provided I still have a working system for them. My PS2 is having issues now......
@@karisasani7006piracy
Lewis Rossman pointed this out on his channel along with a Netflix fiasco. He paid for 4k but only got 720p!
Companies do indeed give less than minimum when it comes to digital content.
yeah i do remember that! big issue that he brought up!
These companies are begging you to pirate at this point.
Oh yes they are lol.
Oh yeah absolutely
This is why I support physical copies when you can get them.
All my music and games and movies I want to keep are physical. People make fun of me for burning CDs when they say Spotify is a thing. I don’t care and again with my movie collection they make fun of me for buying 4k discs when Netflix is a thing. I still have all the Star Wars films on VHS that have the unaltered versions. I have transferred those copies to disc because tape degrades over time but I still have them. You can’t find the original Star Wars films unaltered anymore the DVDs and Blu Rays have all been changed and altered. I watched Back To The Future 2 on Netflix and they freaking cut out sections of the movie I’m done with digital destroying everything.
@@ryans413 kids in their early 20s look at me like im on drugs when they see I keep a stack of cds in my car. 🤣
@@UberHeroMysticmy nephew (8) asked if they were mini-frisbees?
I can't wait to have him see a phone booth and lose his mind.
@@UberHeroMysticI have cds all over my car as well. As long as they’re for sale I will buy them. They won’t go away as long as I take care of them.
Modern physical copies are just download codes unless you're buying switch cartridges.
Rich, I just gotta say I respect you a lot for standing on the side of freedom and going against big companies!
hmm, he is just saying it because it's trending, this has been going on for years now, all youtubers are scooping in for views tbh
It’s so crazy. I’ve always thought these digital purchases would be akin to buying DVDs digitally so I can’t even imagine someone coming in and stealing my DVDs.
Apple did something similar to me with an album back in the day. I called to ask why the album I purchased was no longer in my purchases. After proving I bought it, they told me they had to renew licensing on it, so I'd have to buy it again. After confirming that all their music was leased and not owned, I got rid of my iPhone and switched to Android.
Why CDs are still a thing
These days purchased music is fortunately DRM free, shame though lossless requires a subscription and they haven't been able to do the same with movies/TV shows.
@@therealjaystone2344vinyls>>>
@@therealjaystone2344because they're FLAC quality over the garage streaming 240kbps or less
I told this story a few times before, but it never gets old! Back in the day, I bought Test Drive Unlimited on PC online from the Atari store, of course, it had DRM. A few years later I changed my PC and the game required online login to the server to authenticate my purchase, alas, the Atari store was no more! I managed to get hold of them though, and their answer was more or less "hard luck!" I was like, you gotta be kidding! Naturally, I had to hack my own game to make it work again! The scary part is that this was back in early 2010's! It's only been getting worse since then!
I'm starting to do the same as you. One day I found a cassette tape from when I was a kid, and was so happy to be able to listen to it again, it made me change my mind about this issue. Now, when I watch something I like, I record it. And I've also cancelled my tidal subscription, and started to get my own song library in my NAS.
Screw DRM, let me buy my movies in an MP4 and my songs in a WAV.
I remember when the eShop for the 3DS and Wii U was going down, some guy tried arguing with me "it's just time, not like anyone downloads anymore and buys from them anymore, we have the Switch eShop now so-" because yes, the Switch eShop definitely won't enter the same fate down the line. /s
The ONLY reason I feel semi-comfortable with downloading from the Switch eShop is because I try to back up anything I buy on it, off my hacked Switch. (Oh, that DLC is gone because the eShop went down for good? Glad I made a backup. Oh you own Brilliant Diamond/Shining Pearl but only have 1.0 for it physically, so it is missing post game content AND EVEN THE INTRO MOVIE OF THE GAME??? ... well hey, I dumped the latest update before they took the servers down, so I can enjoy it fully)
I don't even own a PS5 or Xbox Series console due to how bad I feel the market is getting for console games (have a good PC now and just use it, my Switch for any games requiring online for it, and my Steam Deck for Single Player Switch games and more) I'm most likely going to get Nintendo's next console, whenever that is, but will be leaving it alone until hackers hack the system because my trust in Nintendo has been at an all time low, and I'd rather have a way to back up my games in some regard if I get their next console.
Also with PC, at least besides pirating, you have places like GOG and Itchio that provide games you buy, WITHOUT DRM. (While I do like Steam in some cases, ease of access for the Steam Deck and really good sales... there are still some things that make me point to GOG and Itchio first if you want to *actually* own your games, without DRM attached to them, so you can back up the games and store them wherever you want... almost as good as physical media for PC since you can make as many copies as you want and store them wherever)
Would still love a way to get physical games for PC though, but don't see that coming back sadly :/ (I feel like these days if companies do a "one time deal with physical" they store them in a USB drive and not even on disk... as good example being Rivals 2's kickstarter currently, their "physical copy" (that only works locally) is saved via USB drive, *not* on disk)
This is why I’m gradually converting to PC gaming. In a digital world, only the pirates are truly free
Since buying a pc, I've been "demo'ing" some games before buying and it's been saving me a lot of money. Almost bought cyberpunk and I'm glad I didn't
@@TheUltimateHacker007when in 2020??? Dawg it’s 2023. And cyberpunk is a different game now, and update 2.1 drops in 3 days.
@@Tanzu15 A week ago. Wanted to check it out after all with the new updates and it's a very lackluster game as a whole
@@TheUltimateHacker007 nah dawg you’re trippin.
@@TheUltimateHacker007 fortnite fan spotted
Welcome to the pirate club, Rich! YAAAAAARRRR!
More like, Richarrrrrrrd!
If companies mess up the digital future enough, and sales go down; they'll really only have one choice to fall back on. Physical, the tried and true.
Digital already been a mess for long term
Physical media is slowly dying because of the cost and space it takes
Why make physical games when they cost the exact same as the digital ? Save on material,cost,shipping and warehouse
People are weak they will give in
@@gabrielcharest243Well... physical games are always cheaper.
And believe it or not, datacentre costs are incredibly high. This is why removing content over time is the only option for digital services.
If there are games or movies from 20 years ago that only a few hundred a week watch, there's licencing and storage costs that will dictate their removal, whether you paid for them or not.
@@gabrielcharest243because there's still a market for Physical sales.
I'm not that foolish. If something is stealing from me and threatening my wallet, I'm willing to boycott him and hit the core of his sales. Then he'll wake up. You guys should do like me and don't be stupid and follow greedy companies. I'm sure when you shake their wallet harshly, they'll know that their fate is in the hands of their customers.
in australia you do have options to fight this
- purchased digital products are to be considered the same as physical products
1) consumer affairs complaint " product not fit for purpose "
2) tax office fraud and theft ( 1 count of theft before deadline, 2 counts of theft after deadline if no agreement for compensation met )
3) australian securities ind investments commission
-- managements failure to meet its legal obligations or understand them
-- theft and fraud
Welcome to the club Brother. Honestly, in many scenarios, it's actually more ethical to pirate your media. HBO Max recently, and for much the same reason, removed a ton of content with the Discovery merger. And many animated shows were not only pulled from it, but they scrubbed from the whole internet. Thousands of hours of animators work, not even available to buy. In 10 years, it may not even be easy to pirate them. They'll be lost to time for all but the most dedicated of animation fans.
I think the "digtial age" will reach a peak and then people will crave physical media more than digital. Also crave for stuff made by a person rather than an AI and will pay good money to get such products. Creativity is the base line for human emotions. Might be a future where companies like Disney just fall off naturally. With their IPs going cheap and bought up by companies making physical products.
Whether it’s digital or physical I think companies can region lock and/or disable content with DRM in the future if they don’t have it now; with streaming companies have have an easier way to do this. This all stems from DRM and Licensing abuse.
Disney is already falling off lol
@@spike5499Disney has been falling off for awhile
Who purchase streaming services if all tv shows and movies are in HD with free sites
Nope, you probably think people would rather pay more for a higher quality good made by a company that pays their employees a decent wage and supports their country.....but we'd rather buy stuff made by exploitive child labor with no concern for the environment or safety standards cause its cheaper.
This is why I am glad I kept building up my physical collection of DVDs, Blurays and external hardrive of shows.
Yep I have over 6100 movies all physical
I still buy Physical Stuff. Going to 2nd Hand Shops and Retro Games Shops help with that
Discs go bad unfortunately. It has something to do with the disc's aging. Digital backup is still a good idea. There's some articles about it online lifespan of physical media.
@@TheNotSure why should make a Digital BackUp of the Disc
Gaming PC w/Blu-ray drive + MakeMKV = movie preservation powerhouse 🔥
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I love that Rich always stays true to his morals and isn’t afraid to speak his mind when bullshit is happening 💯🙏🏽
If companies are openly stating in court that digital purchases are not property then I'm baffled as to why on earth they can claim piracy is theft. It is copyright infringement because of an agreement not to duplicate but I can't see it being anything other than that. Why is Rich still generalising by saying constantly that all game discs are just coasters without acknowledging that PlayStation discs for the most part contain a full playable version of the game without internet? Yes there's updates and yes without them it can get a little buggy but also its worth mentioning that people can now download the updates to their PCs from other sources and install them into their PlayStations via USB without ever needing to rub with PSN at all.
I have gone digital since 2016, but I recently got myself again an Xbox 360 to play some games on my account. I bought some games on physical disks, others I download them and back up what I can. About music, I have a lot of music cds stored away in my room somewhere. I have a ripped copy of all of them on several DVDs, I may copy them to a SSD for another backup. I have a huge Spotify playlist that maybe difficult to backup and will be looking for the minidisc video. Thanks Rich for all the videos.
This is part of the reason why I still buy most of my movies on Blu-ray because if thereis a license disagreement, I still have the movie on a Blu-ray disc that I can just pop in my Blu Ray player and play at any tim. Man do I miss the old days of gaming when things are on the cartridge
I might do this mini disc thing Rich is talking about. It would take alot of time but I think i might try
This is just sad Sony should definitely be ashamed of what they’ve done 😭😭
This really feels like it shouldnt be legal. Like if you bought a physical item from a shop the shopkeeper cant just come to your house and take it back.They should have to issue refunds to everyone affected
In the US it is legal in EU they have to provide a refund but for US there is no protection they can pull the media at any time without recourse
That's why digital is dumb.
@@jasonshapiro6420 and the US government cares more about crappy electric cars
@@jasonshapiro6420 Thankfully on the positive side it's legal in the US to back up anything you've bought, compared to some other countries where it's illegal
@@condog209you do realize electric is the future right? It seems crappy now because Electric cars are still new. Do you think the regular car came out of the gate swinging in the early 1900s? No, they sucked to the point people preferred horses. Even a gas car needs a battery which is electric. We just gotta get to the point where we use natural energy like solar panel instead of man made energy. We will get there though because humans and technology will continue to progress .
Honestly I agree with you. I realized this many years ago when it became unrelevant to buy CD's just because Spotify Or pandora had the Albums I wanted to listen to music but... It takes away from the box art and the album sleeves art. Yes buying digital media is one thing but buying physical media is another thing. If I was to go to the store right now and buy Is starfield. That is my own personal copy of the game. I can do whatever I please with it as long as it's not illegal. I should be able in 15 years from now to start up that game. That's my physical copy or my digital copy of the game yes I should be able to do whatever I want with it.
Loved this video Rick. Glad to see you finally poking at the real issues again. Gabe Newell famously said, "piracy is not a pricing issue, it's a service issue". The only way we hold corporations accountable is by requiring them to justify the cost of their services with security, availability, and customer guarantees. When corporations think "ownership" of intelectual propery entitles them to take advantage of their consumers, that's when consumers need to hold them accountable and not tolerate bad systems and services.
I know this was about PlayStation, but relating to the generalized topic; this is why I purchase games from GOG when I have a choice. They’re the only company that I know of who’s entire mission statement is making sure that their customers actually own their games. No other company is doing that(that I know of at least). Anything you buy from GOG has zero DRM, which means I can be hold up in a watchtower with no internet for 50 years, and if I have a computer with GOG games installed, they’ll run. If I tried that with Steam, PlayStation or any other platform, I’d need an internet connection so they can peek in and check to see if I own what I’m trying to run. That isn’t ownership.
I wish they'd officially support Linux though with their Galaxy client, particularly due to my Steam Deck, yes there are ways but I'd rather seen an official solution which also supports cloud save backup/sync.
@@tech34756 I game on Steam Deck too, and I get it. I still buy games from GOG when I have the choice between them or Steam, but it can be a pain to deal with. If more people supported platforms like GOG over Steam, they probably would give it more support for other OS’s. Unfortunately GOG is a tiny spec of a company compared to Steam, which is sad being that they’re the only ones doing digital distribution correctly.
Isn't GoG owned by the company that happily sold a full price game knowing that it wouldn't even boot up on 50% of the consoles they released it for? Yea, I'm sure THEY wouldn't lie to anybody and screw them over about their storefront either.
GoG is still owned by a company with a history of deception to the point of blatant thievery. The second they are offered a better way to make money than promising you no DRM games, they will take all of that back and run with your money just like they did for that game. Liars are liars, thieves are thieves, companies are both and nobody ever changes.
@@bradams1854 Even if GoG changes their business model and retroactively changes existing online libraries, if you keep offline copies of the installers for games you own there's nothing they can do.
Remember everyone, piracy is a victimless crime and don’t listen to anything contrary.
Both victimless and not actually stealing since the "original" is still in the hands of the rights holder. Tired of this very long overstayed narrative.
@@Fatallicathat's stupid , I won't say why , just think harder.
Stealing customers is a legal thing, and piracy is a crime. What are you thinking, man? Be realistic. They are both theft, and we are not excluding anyone
The current state of the industry has had me revisiting my older consoles more, especially my PS3. MK 9, GTA 4, NBA 2K11, WWE 2K14, the original RE trilogy, World at War, Saints Row 2 etc, have all remained really good years later.
GT5, GT5 Prologue as well!
My most played console is currently Evercade, which is a niche retro-gaming emulation system.
@MitsubishiGTO GT5 needs a ton of updates, not sure you can anymore?
Arrrrr Rich Welcome aboard brother. Piracy is the only way at point brother if don't want to get screwed with the digital future. Physical disc is not really an option anymore so the choice now is to pay for a digital copy of something and have it removed or piracy something you be able to keep forever. Im glad you made the wise decision. Lets sail off mateys!!
Just imagine if when VHS got discontinued if all the studios started breaking into people's houses to, "Get their tapes back."
my stance on piracy has always been that if its available to purchase on your platform, then its immoral to pirate it
but if its no longer available for purchase or not available on your platform (Nintendo) then its very much perfectly justified IMO to pirate it, the company doesn't want your money, otherwise they wouldnt take away your ability to buy the game right?
Yes and no as it’s a catch 22.
F them though if they don’t want to sell it anymore then yes it’s as you said.
Pretty much my stance too. No matter how bad a game is or how awful a company is it still needs to be purchased if it's available on a digital storefront.
Current* platform. I have many of my old consoles modified because some "collectors" aka scalpers are walking garbage who enjoy speculating with entertainment.
@RedHeadNINTY9T9 That's how I feel about all consoles.
Anything you "buy" on your platform, they can just take, and it sucks to be you. Giving them any money at that point is immoral.
We all laughed at Milton and his "they took my stapler". Now it's our turn as consumers to be sent to the basement and having our stapler taken away.
I'm not going to the basement I buy physical they can't take my games or movies.
I love that movie, poor Mr Milton 😂
I feel like companies have done this since companies were invented. They always find a way to screw the customer.
This is corporations pushing their crappy streaming services. Even though they get rid of shows or movies from there, too.
This looks like the beginning of a class action in the making. A strong argument would be unjust enrichment
This is why Christopher nolan still released Oppenheimer on blueray dvd and people still bought it
If digital distributors don’t offer a refund for any permanently removed content that people have purchased (be it movies, games or music) then ANYTHING GOES ME HEARTIES!!!
This is why I'm backing up every digital game purchase I made, in case something like this happens. Things will get more complicated once game streaming becomes the only option but I have enough of a backlog to never need to touch that (most games these days suck anyway and it'll very likely only get worse in the future).
@@abadenoughdude300 - Even if you back them up, they’ll just need to be authenticated online when you try reinstall. Unless you buy DRM-free stuff from Gog or whoever.
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I remember when streaming services first came out and was touted as a way to cut the cord from the evil cable companies like Comcast and now streaming services have become worse.
People say digital is the way to go, but trust me it's not.
A few months ago around 11:00 p.m., I got charge notification for a playstation purchase. I immediately called my bank and cancelled it thinking I was hacked. Turns out it was a EA subsciption I forgot about. Playstation suspended my acount because it was considered a chargeback and it violates some terms. I didn't realize my account was suspended because my kids broke the TV and I haven't played in months. I have no access to any games that I purchased digitally. I'm tryto resolve the issue now by paying of the debt, but that is not even a guarantee that I can restore my account.
This happened except I did it for a game that wouldn’t download… I said to Sony I’ve paid for the game but it’s not downloading… (think it was puyo tetris or something) I want my money back… they said no .. I got money from my bank they suspended me n I couldn’t get into my library. Sony r a vile company im preying for their downfall it’s been a long time coming
The saying is "we'll own nothing, but will be happy."
People have asked me since back when "digital copies" of movies first came out why I would bother getting discs after the digital became a new norm. This is exactly why. I saw this coming from the beginning and warned them that any number of things, from individual IPs getting sold to entire studios getting absorbed through corporate mergers, can end up taking away what they would pay for. I'd rather have to get a new shelf every so often for an ever-expanding collection than risk that.
Discovery is just as much to blame on this if they weren't ok with renewing this setup. It's just to further that none of these companies are ok per this point, and why the copyright and DRM laws we have in place per this point are archaic, and need to be looked at by people that know what's going on. People in office not knowing that Facebook makes money through ads are embarrassing at this rate.
Don’t use logic with people, these idiots just want to try to further push the narrative. They’d rather attack Sony than the main company responsible.
Discovery is 100% at fault. They pulled the licenses.
I am just like you, was against piracy since I viewed it as stealing someone's hard work. But the way they can take our money for a product and then can come in and delete it, I can say that I was wrong in my attitude towards piracy.
Here's my honest question, is piracy wrong if you were never going to buy the product to begin with? If someone was never going to pay to watch a show, play a game, etc, is them pirating it still morally wrong? If so, why?
@@bbbbbbb51I say its morally wrong if you have the means to pay or access the content without having to pirate it. Willingly pirating something because you don’t WANT to pay is no different than stealing from a food truck because you don’t want to pay.
Well said Rich. I hope you don't get in trouble for this, I hope you profit a lot from this video and it becomes viral.
No one has the balls today what you said.
No we been saying it.
@@SlayerPDX so have I but I don't think you and I have a TH-cam channel with a million subscribers
@MathasarSalazar2 yes, so the statement shouldn't be finally someone has said it. The statement should be finally someone with a reach has confirmed it.
Everyone should just download his videos and make a TH-cam channel just regurgitating his content and monetize it.
His channel is not big enough to be noticed by those that would strike the message down
When Apple TVs started to come out I noticed a lot of people I know started to collect digital movies on iTunes/Apple TV. Pretty much all of them had no problem eventually paying for an old movie they had on dvd or Blu-ray just for the sake of adding it to their digital collection for convenience. This same mindset translates to any platform. People used to think digital content and copies are the future, but it’s just a matter of time before all of those companies do stuff like this. A lot of new movies are starting to become exclusive on streaming platforms, so no physical copies are made. You are forced to pay a subscription to stream it and there’s no guarantee it will be around in the future. Digital ownership is gone. Streaming is the new future. It’s expensive, always recurring, and crappier.
Nintendo already did this on the Wii, Wii U, and NDS eShop
Bold, true and to the point, man. Wish there were more videos like that on TH-cam.
This should alert the Government that laws need to be made and enforced against these practices..
Christopher Nolan did an interview about the dangers of everything Digital i read an article that someone wrote on how they prefer physical and here's why they went looking to watch Cocoon (1985) one of the greatest 80's movies and it's nowhere on digital at all it was taken off a couple years back but as he said in the article he goes thank god i have it on dvd i can watch it anytime i want. i thought EXACTLY which is why i still buy dvd's, bluray's and 4K and physical video game releases as well.
One of two things need to happen, one a portion of your purchase should be returned to the buyer, or two they have some sort of vault system where people who have purchased the digital content can keep their things watch delete redownload to their hearts content. But people who haven’t purchased wont have an option to buy the digital product due to the change in their legal agreements.
"They can't come to my house and take it from me"
Imperial March Theme begins
The Guy at the end of the video doesn't look Human! Im thinking.... 👽!!!
Those who purchased and can't access their content should be allowed to download and rip it to physical media.
welcome to the high seas friend. You won't regret it. Just make sure you never let corporations pull you back to land, no matter how convenient they make it seem or how much they try to guilt trip you.
I don’t think this is Sony’s fault, it’s more the fault of Discovery, but l understand the frustration, this is why I am upset about the all digital future where we own nothing. Piracy is the way to go. 🏴☠️
Still you should be access them. Because, the Next thing could be removal of games.
@@DeadPhoenix86DP The removal of games has happened already. Marvel vs Capcom 2 on the PS3/360 was a big one that people were pissed about (in this case, it's Disney shilling the MCU)
If it was purchased then it shouldn’t go away
@@DeadPhoenix86DP a LOT of games have been taken down. Here's just a few -
01) Earthworm Jim HD
02) Soul Calibur 2 HD
03) Sonic The Hedgehog/Sonic 2/Sonic 3 and Knuckles/Sonic CD
04) Metal Gear Solid HD collection (Metal Gear Solid 2 and 3)
@@DeadPhoenix86DP agreed. But if WB won't let Sony have them, blame WB, not Sony.
I've definitely been feeling more and more like I want to go back to my college perspective of pirating all things.
Been watching since 2011. Still my favorite TH-camr.
Keep doing you rich!!
"The easiest way to stop piracy is not by putting antipiracy technology to work. It's by giving those people a service that's better than what they're receiving from the pirates."
Gabe Newell
That's why i do not use Steam.
@iwatchDVDsonXbox360 your statement makes no sense, how does a quote relate to you not using the product?
so steam has physcial dvds? nope.
@@itsascendingfr so your cool with steam shutting down and everything stops working?
@@itsascendingfr enjoy loosing your 50,000 games you have in your libary, lol.
Respect for not backing down, Rich
I love the timing of this AFTER customers just bought a bunch of this stuff on Black Friday. The digital only future is over now. So many people are either going to double dip or wait for physical items to go on sale or just pirate even more!
You are RIGHT about games just being placeholders! They're just a physical unlock.
Not only that. You get movies where they change it later like what Diz does. "Oh that scene is no longer acceptable, so we're changing it."
Until there’s laws in place to ensure digital ownership and ensure companies make their products available to you in a reasonable manner, piracy will continue to be the moral option
I think the EU does they made Microsoft refund Zune purchases. I wonder why that doesn’t apply in this case. Maybe only music
Won't happen bud, in fact stronger DRM will become the norm already than it has before & piracy is immortal, stealing & will be punished sooner or later, & guess what? ALOT of folks including me are not only ever sink that low, but also the current political system that the new folks that'll be replacing the old folks in our system will be copy & pasting the same ideals that our government loves so much. Don't believe me, look at AOC, the type of person that wanted to install "changes" in our government, but in the end, became a part of their ideal agenda that people still perfer to this day
aight m8 I'll see you in 60 years
there needs to be laws in place to PROTECT consumers who buy digital content from Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft front end stores when it comes to ownership, the fact that they can get away with remotely bricking your £550 console or other expensive devices and block access from your account on a whim needs to stop! just because you accepted their terms and conditions and they can take that away without any contradiction or legal challenge needs to change NOW with them forcing us consumers to accept digital software, things need to change for the better! and maybe there will be some spotlight to change things and stop things like this from happing, i've been a advocate for a long time regarding this matter and i really do hope things change!
@@inshal6420The EU disliked Microsoft.
But since that time, there haven't been judgements of that kind, and there's been countless digital content removals across various platforms.
As Jim Sterling said. It's not Piracy, it's reclamation.
Jim Sterling also sat on a podcast last week and said he was pregnant so..
@@Galo994 and......
Piracy is your friend. 🏴☠
I lived in South Korea as a foreigner for 6 years... One of the things I miss about that country is that over there digital piracy is PERFECTLY LEGAL...
For one thing they do NOT and NEVER will recognize intellectual property in there court of law. This is due to a Asian concept that states that "nobody can own knowledge". And their laws reflect this concept!!!
When I was over there it was impossible to even find a movie that wasn't pirated because they didn't sell them... If you tried to sell a "official" movie disk you would be laughed out of the market because it's too expensive... Because keep in mind that these pirates are downloading the movie basically for free so they can sell it for dirt cheap and still make a profit...
There's absolutely NO reason to buy movies digitally. This was an inevitable outcome. It's what physical media advocates have always warned.
Buy your movies and TV physically.
Piracy will benefit nobody... buy your films physically, nobody can take them from you.
Thanks to rich, I’m now a pro bird lover
We all love birds 😏🍆💦
Avisodomy was never the answer! D=
This is why the things I care about are on physical media. I have my TV shows I want on DVD and have physical books. True, I probably won't be able to buy them at Best Buy or Walmart in the future, but there's always ebay
Support small businesses
There’s a small hobby store I visit that sells hobby stuff but also sells old movies and music like records and VHS tapes DVDs and sometimes they got some video games to. I saw a 60gb PS3 there the other day.
Well said.
Half price book store has great deals on physical media. I still buy physical media such as physical discs for my game consoles, old and current music on cds, old music on cassette tapes, 4k and blu ray discs from goodwill, value village and half price book stores. If there are still vintage and record stores around your neighborhood, you can check them out since they have reasonably priced products for physical media if your into old vintage stuff.
Good thing that Sony has made enemies of a huge chunk of their fan-base. Without Sony, the players would have never seen how garbage Sony has become.
This isn't on Sony this is on discovery. Their activities caused the licensing to break down and there was nothing Sony could have done become had they kept it up they would be liable to be sued since they themself don't own the content
The majority of pĺaystation players buy physical.
@@chasejackson7248
The same goes for the Nintendo Switch. The New zelda game sold over 10 million physical copies.
I have a large collection of movies on VHS and DVD and they can never take that away from me.
All major gaming companies are doing this. Xbox is literally buying up the gaming industry, trying to create a monopoly with money not even made in the gaming industry, and rich hasn't complained about them once that I've seen.
Buying digital games is moronic, it's not a secret. We should fight back against the push from ALL GAME COMPANIES or we will never own our games again.
Honest respect, you are a real advocate for people that are affected by this BS, Thanks Rick. You are a good guy
I love my blu ray, 4k collection. Can’t take that away. And better streaming quality, features, sound.
Same here. I'm to the point I buy even DVDs now if I can't find the blu-ray. I just want to own a copy. Rather have a 480p disc than a digital copy.
Not many movies are worth getting in 4k blu ray though, only the ones that are shot with imax cameras.
@@johnpajestka5022 You care more about principle than the actual quality you're experiencing?
@maillardsbearcat I always shoot for quality if I can. If it's a favorite and I have the money I'll get the 4k blu-ray. Some movies never had a blu-ray release. I guess on principle, I'll take the downgrade rather then purchasing the digital copy.
Sony, YOU BLEW IT!
I've been using Minidisc to record off of the internet for a few years now. Save them as mp3's and I have them for myself. Just like recording from the radio back in the day.
Weren't you just on the other side of the fence? Bro hahahah
I remember the same thing with the PS3 years ago.
I doubt the PS3, you mean PS4. Digital downloads wasn't even that big of a thing on the PS3. It didn't take off until the PS4.
Now I'm definitely getting a laptop that can handle switch emulation.
Steam deck
The good thing is: Everything may only get offered through the internet at some point. And you don't get a regular way of owning something offline. But when you can consume it at some point, that means you can copy or record it for yourself. I don't trust in online content to be there for me for eternity.
• special TH-cam videos, I download and store them
• music I can't copy, I play it to the computer and record a new audio file there
• movies and shows from streaming services, play it from one computer and record it on another via HDMI grabber
You don't need physical media, but you need to have the media in some standard format on a personal drive. That is what I do, because even before everything went internet, I wanted to make sure, nobody could take stuff back.
The real digital future is your own self-hosted media server. Any old PC will do and you can even share your music and movies with your family and friends.
They owe us money or credit for taking what I payed for.
They don’t because in the legal agreement it states they can revoke it at anyone. Your fault for going digital and not reading fine print.
Go buy physical.
When I was researching a court case a few years ago, I learned that even when you did own a physical copy you technically do not own that movie or TV show, it's just a license to play its content for private noncommercial use. It was also technically illegal to loan, rent or re-sell that physical copy without permission as that license is non-transferrable.
Something more peoples should learn about
My favorite is when I tell peoples in online game that they own anything but rent their account
The message is usually played in the FBI warning that people skip.
Doesn't mean it holds up in court, since they don't clearly tell this to the customer and ask the same price as the do for physical sales.
"Two wrongs don't make a right!"
Well, two rights DON'T prevent the next wrong!
...... And three rights make a left.
I have a few games on Steam that were delisted because of trademark issues. They can't be bought anymore, but I can still play and download them whenever I want.
People should get together and file a class action lawsuit against these companies for false advertising, theft and whatever else they can think of. At the very least, it should be illegal for them to use the word "purchase" in regard to digital content that isn't DRM free.
I've said for years that it's complete bullshit that companies are able to get away with stuff in regard to digital content that would never fly in the real world. Read any software EULA and you'll find a clause saying that they don't guarantee that the software will even work, and that they're not liable for any damage it may cause. Now apply that to a physical product, like a car. Do you think car companies would be able to get away with selling cars that aren't even guaranteed to work, and if they injure or kill someone due to design defects, the company isn't liable?
This sort of crap should be illegal!
How about a law that forces digital content providers to either send a physical copy of the removed purchased digital content, or refund at least half of the money spent on the purchase? By the way, I agree with pirating, but only if you're downloading a copy of digital content that you paid for and was cancelled. That way you're downloading content that is already legally yours, only it comes from another source.
makes sense. if i pay for a 1080p version of a movie that gets pulled i wouldnt feel bad going to the high seas for a 1080p version.. just gotta hope there are enough seeds and good speed.
Hard copies are the future for ownership. No one can say otherwise.
They want full control. A digital Only future would be one the worst things that could happen. Sony isn't like Valve. If they can screw people over, they would.
I said this exactly
The fact that they remove it from your library is insane! Also what about buying physical games on switch? Most of the games i buy don't need a big download or sometimes they don't need a download at all when I first get them.
I also see this as a reason to focus on buying games from former generations that I've been wanting.
Getting digital switch games also works too doesn’t it? After all, you can put it on a separate SD card.
@@melindagallegan5093 Yes you can download games to the SD card but I was talking about his comment that every game needs an update and in most cases a huge one. I don't think that is the case for all switch games but I wasn't sure so I posted the comment to see if anyone else knew the answer.
Let's Not Forget ever time Nintendo releases a new console they abandon the e-shop. ALSO do not forget because of the way they made physical games can and will eventually break with non usage. Their physical games are destined to break many years from now. If after the Switch 2 Nintendo abandons its old games it will be CATASTROPHIC. There is absolutely no reason to pull games from old consoles even if they aren't making money on them. They should of reactivated All accounts from the past and offered a means to re-download or even vouchers for the newer titles. Nintendo has been around for generations, they owe it to their loyalists to honor them - instead of abandoning the games and thus the real Fans
Recently an older eshop closed and if you wanted to play the games you had bought you needed to have them downloaded because once close you couldn't access them anymore
@@retrobros9684 I think the switch 2 will probably be backwards compatible because it wouldn't be smart to cut off the existing switch base. Also I haven't heard anything about physical switch games breaking down. Hopefully Nintendo keeps the same eShop but with them who knows.
Rich in 2 hours:
“They came inside my house and took my mini disks… lets get into it”
I really appreciate your videos Rich, but the companies themselves are not the only problem, its because of people that are okay with companies doing anti-consumer stuff, that big corporations keep getting away with it, because there will always be fools falling into these traps, since a lot of people nowadays do not really value their purchases or are just indifferent to it. I used to play a lot of online MMOs and even some gacha games on my mobile devices such as phone or tablet, but when I saw that even as I supported these games by paying for microtransactions or battlepasses or whatever it was that they offered, that it didn't stop the developers or publishers from basically just shutting down the games, and I started losing all that time and money that was invested into those games, because these companies do not care that you can no longer enjoy yourself with their games, they just say "Sorry suckers, but thank you for letting us rip you off", and then when you actually try to fight these companies for ripping you off, some people actually have the audacity to defend these companies that are continuously ripping them off, and then actually call you entitled for basically trying to get these companies to compensate you, for not even giving you an offline version of the games that you were paying for online, or in the very rare occasions that they do make an offline version of the game kind of like Megaman X Dive, companies like Capcom actually were greedy enough to ask for $35, after they shut down and ripped people off from the Online version of the game that they closed off. I wish that people had similar mindsets nowadays, like the folks from 80s where when they were being ripped off by companies in the United States, for selling cheapass consoles with no sort of quality control, a lot of people in that era just stopped purchasing games or consoles for a long period of time, and the videogame crash happened because people were sick and tired of being ripped off, and although a lot of companies went under, it actually forced companies like Nintendo to create some sort of quality control, so that they could gain peoples trust as they were entering the market for the US, but for some reason people did not learn from this event and have created fandoms and stuff, where they support companies like Gamefreak for selling them poor under developed stuff, and its why these companies will not stop and the future of gaming and media looks kind of bleak.
For movies since I do not like the current streaming platforms, my family and I buy our movies and series physically and then convert it into a digital form factor, so that we can use Plex to enjoy our physical content in a digital form factor that can be accessed from anywhere, its a real pity though that the same cannot really be done for gaming unless you use emulation, and then you have a ton of issues to work with like compatibility problems, or have to deal with things such as latency if you decide to use Parsec or Sunshine or whatever, so I really wish that there were more options for us.
Well said Rich! well said my man!
you buy a game or a movie, you pay money and you have to agree to a ToS that says they can remove it from your library any time they want without any notice.
if you dont agree, you cant use it.
They are criminals!
and physical games? what a joke...
No mans sky, Cyberpunk, Monster Hunter, Lords of the Fallen, Kingdom Hearts 3(ending of the game isnt included), GoW Ragnarok(NG+ added 8 months later)
I have been pro piracy since I was a teenager. Now I am almost 38 and still feel the same way as a developer.
So if everything was 100% piracy you'd still support it?