in the old days I was happy when the soviets lost, which happened not too often. But now watching old matches from the eighties I have to admit . They never lost their discipline as north american teams did. They often started roughing when they were going to lose.now I have a lot of respect for the soviets
We are that when being boys. In tennis I wanted Becker to lose versus our Swedes. Now I know Becker was the best of the best. Winning is no more important. The sport itself is. Like hockey.
Great documentry....i am Canadian, the battels between our nation's were lengendry..thank-you for the memory's.I had no idea what the player's went through! Much respect.
First introduced to Soviet hockey in 1972, I quickly grew to admire many aspects of their style of play. Being a military man in the US in the 1980s, I was torn by a mix of respect, admiration, love and fear for the Soviet hockey machine. By 1990, fear was replaced with hope and a great desire for the well-being of all mankind, even those that we don’t understand. Thank you for this terrific documentary.
I wonder why they didn't go into "The Russian Five" on the Red Wings? Leaving out Federov, Konstantinov, and Kozlov with Fetisov and Larionov. Completely unrelated, last year I saw Larionov at a Starbucks in Troy, down the road from a Wings training center. My girlfriend at the time couldn't understand why my jaw dropped when I saw him.
Wow this was awesome. I would include the other two great documentaries Of Miracles and Men and Red Army with this one to be packaged as a trilogy. This told more of the story about Kasatonov which I really enjoyed. I always identified with him the most, and I think he doesn't get enough credit for remaining loyal to his country, his coach, and his team because of the superstardom of Fetisov. Thanks for posting this I'm really glad I found it and enjoyed it very much.
this was one of the best documentaries ive seen about russian hockey. especially how it goes into the relationships between kasatonov and the rest of the team. thanks for posting
"This was our prison" - Sergei Makarov , LOL Very cool documentary, I don't see any bias, these were Soldiers of Hockey, they served the system to the extreme, they have earned the right to say whatever about it.
Incredible documentary. Until I saw this, I would never have imagined the struggle and the sacrifice these guys underwent. But, damn it, they were GOOD!
Love of Hockey, Love for your country, dedication, major sacrifices..... Amazing story... So good to see Larionov and Fetisov make it to the NHL and win the Stanley Cup..
me too and i was there to watch them both live... Krutov was one of the biggest disappointments in Canucks history and losing Larionov to Detroit was one of the biggest mistakes in franchise history
The Soviets revolutionized/changed the game forever, and for the better! They were skilled, very physically fit and played the game very logically. Loved conversing with Makarov at his hockey school here in Calgary back in '94 and '95. Great documentary, thanks for showing this film!
So sad those guys had to play hockey all day. Every day. What torture it must have been. Few know what ot takes to be the best. The Soviets did. Here a quote, "Gentleman, we are going to search every day for perfection. Knowing that perfection is impossible. But maybe we will find greatness". V. Lombardi.
From 1975 to 1991, the clubs of the USSR played 108 matches with the teams of the National Hockey League. During this time, the Clubs of the USSR won 58 victories, 10 matches ended in a draw and lost 40 times to the representatives of the NHL. The most successful team in NHL history is the Montreal Canadiens, with 24 Stanley Cups and 35 Finals appearances. The greatest number of times the winner of the USSR championship was CSKA Moscow - 32. Their meetings with each other: 12/31/1976 Montreal Canadiens - CSKA - 3: 3 12/31/1979 Montreal Canadiens - CSKA - 4: 2 12/31/1985 Montreal Canadiens - CSKA - 1:6 09/18/1990 CSKA - Montreal Canadiens - 3: 2 CSKA won here! Also, CSKA is the record holder of the European Ice Hockey Cup, which won 20 titles, and from 1978 to 1990 did it 13 times in a row. Champions of European countries participated in the draws of this tournament. Therefore, CSKA can be called the strongest team of all time! Meetings of the owner of the Stanley Cup with the champion of the USSR, who became in the season in which the match took place: 12/29/1979 New York Islanders - CSKA - 2: 3 12/31/1985 Montreal Canadiens - CSKA - 1:6 01/12/1991 Pittsburgh Penguins - Dynamo (Moscow) - 3: 4 Meetings of the owner or finalist of the Stanley Cup with the champion or silver medalist of the USSR Championship, who became in the season in which the matches between them took place: 12/31/1976 Montreal Canadiens - CSKA - 3: 3 01/11/1976 Philadelphia Flyers - CSKA - 4: 1 12/29/1979 New York Islanders - CSKA - 2: 3 12/29/1985 Calgary Flames - Dynamo (Moscow) - 4: 3 12/31/1985 Montreal Canadiens - CSKA - 1:6 01/09/1990 Boston Bruins - Dynamo (Moscow) - 1: 3 09/13/1990 Spartak (Moscow) - Minnesota North Stars - 8: 3 01/12/1991 Pittsburgh Penguins - Dynamo (Moscow) - 3: 4 As can be seen from the results, the USSR clubs on the field turned out to be stronger than the NHL clubs. Also, the symbolic team of the century included 4 players who played in the USSR championships and 2 players who played in the NHL. The six members of the symbolic team were chosen by voting organized by the IIHF. The selection committee included 56 hockey experts from 16 countries in Europe and North America. Symbolic team of the century: Goalkeeper: Vladislav Tretiak (USSR) - 30 votes. Defender: Vyacheslav Fetisov (USSR) - 54 votes. Defender: Börje Salming (Sweden) - 17 votes. Wing: Valery Kharlamov (USSR) - 21 votes. Wing: Sergei Makarov (USSR) - 18 votes. Center forward: Wayne Gretzky (Canada) - 38 votes In connection with the above, the USSR championship can be considered the strongest league in the world!
11:54 :uh, there is a problem with calling the usa a "superpower" in hockey. I know that makes for a good script. but it was and is Canada that is the western hockey superpower. also, the ussr did not "lose an Olympic final" to the usa in 1980. they lost a game in a second stage that wound up costing them the gold but it was not a final.
It’s the same way they justify the prevalent propaganda in their country. When it suits their “side” they’ll eat anything up. It’s subtly, but it’s how they give you a distorted account of reality by giving you half-truths.
Wieso er hat doch Recht! Es war kein Finale. Es gab nur eine Finalrunde. Die Sowjetunion verlor gegen die USA 3:4. Danach gewannen sie gegen Schweden 9:2. Die USA gewannen das letzte Spiel 4:2 gegen Finnland! Dann war Schluß! Also nicht auf westliche Propaganda reinfallen!!!
This movie and Red Army(2014) are the greatest documentaries for the greatest story in sports ever. The latter shows the perspective of Fetisov. My favorite of the bunch is Larionov, he's the stereotypical good guy :)
Those were times... In all the time before (from 1920+ there were just four teams that were on the top: SWEDEN, CZECHOSLOVAKIA, SOVIET UNION and CANADA. The standings show, total MEDALS: CZECHOSLOVAKIA - 34 (not counting other medals after the splitting to CZECH REPUBLIC AND SLOVAKIA, would be together 50 now), SOVIET UNION - 34 (not counting other medals from present RUSSIA, would be together 43 now), CANADA - 46, SWEDEN - 45... I am still impressed how countries like ours with Sweden with 4 Mil. people in total in those time could win all that and compete with the best... Now the situation is a different one and will never be the same again..
Beside these "magnificent five" there were other outstanding players, such as: Babich-Shuvalov-Bobrov; Loktev-Almetov-Alexandrov; Starshinov and Majorov brothers; Firsov-Polupanov-Vikulov; Mikhajlov-Petrov-Kharlamov; Konovalenko; Ragulin, Kuz'kin... the list may be continued.
Ussr russia 27 world cups canada 25 cups ussr won world cup 9 times 1963 1964 1965 1966 1967 1968 1969 1970 1971 soo shut up ussr hockey history 1954-1991 only 37 years exist wons 29 world titles
They played college kids and amateurs in every olympics, and got to play all star nhl teams that had no team chemistry. Theres a reason Russia hasn't won gold since before 1980. Every nations best players are allowed to play for their country (except this year) and Russia got socked in the mouth
really well done with two odd omissions; first, no mention of the impact of Mogilny's defection. Second, what an unmitigated disaster Tikhonov's return to coaching the national team was. They beat Japan and Denmark but lost all other games finishing 10th behind Latvia, Switzerland, and Germany.
He is featured in the outstanding documentary Red Army, by Gabe Polsky. That documentary stands head and shoulders above this one. In Red Army, Slava Fetisov shares so much, and Slava is a great man. Don't miss it!
@@stevehall7479 well youre probably right to some extent, but name a better coach, keeping in mind that he built up a hockey system from a couple of books about hockey, lessons from a chess champion and a ballet instructor, and that his home made system dominated the entire world for more than 40 years
Canada had the best hockey players from the beginning of the game to 1960. Then it gets debatable. If there were more international competitions, especially on big ice, we could have learned more. Obviously the Summit Series was a sham, too political, marred with Bobby Clarke's cheap ankle breaking slash on Kharlomov, and WHA players like Howe, Hull and Keon could not attend. However the Soviets dominated international hockey from 1960 - 1992. The Canada Cups were important in establishing ice hockey as in international game. It took hockey to the level of Cricket, Rugby and beyond basketball, but not (obviously) as high as Football (soccer). So it was a good thing. Yet, they were biased in favor of Canada. But that is how the game had to grow. You take the '76, '84, '87 Canada Cups and put them on Big Ice, the Canadians lose to the Soviets everytime. And in '81, they lost anyway. However, the game since the '90's, with the exception of the Nagano Olympics (Czech's) and the '96 World Cup (USA), has been solidly Canadian dominated. Most World Junior Championships, most World Championships, Olympic winners (on big Ice) 2002, 2010, 2014. Throw in the World Cup (on small ice) 2004, 2016, won by Canada. The Soviets owned the '60's - 1990. But Canada has been the best since then at all levels, with some great international wins from Sweden, and the Czech's, and 1 by the USA. However, with Kucherov, Tarasenko, and the new wave of Russian talent, I think it's time for another World Cup, or NHL included Olympics. It's too bad the Soviets could not have shown how good they were to North American Hockey in the 60's and 70's. We should have had more big ice tournaments to see what the Soviets could really do, AND to see what Orr, Hull, Howe, Keon, Mikita and others in their prime could have played like on Big ice against the Big Red machine.
Your comment is selective in how it interprets the facts. Let's look at history. You're correct that Canada had the best hockey players at the beginning. In fact, when the IIHF was founded in Europe, Canada was initially banned from participating because they were too good. When they were eventually admitted they ran roughshod over the European competition, a humiliation that was never forgiven by Bunny Aherne and came back haunt them in the 1960's. In the late 1940's the Soviets decided to play hockey and won the World Championship the first year they entered the tournament, in 1954. However, Canadian amateurs were still competitive as late as 1961 when the Trail Smoke Eaters, a Senior A team won the World Championship. That team was made up of part-time players never good enough to play in the NHL. The Soviets continued to improve and in the 1960's it became clear that Canada could no longer win World Championships or Olympic gold medals with Senior A players. So the "National Team" concept was born. These were college boys and overage Junior A players. They represented Canada honourably but were no match for the Soviets who were full-time professionals in all but name. Also, Canada was not only playing against the powerful Soviets and the rapidly improving Czechs & Swedes but also the officials on and off the ice. In the late 1960's the IIHF agreed to permit Canada to place a small number of professionals on their team for the World Championships. However, the IIHF quickly reneged when the Soviets vetoed the agreement, claiming that their amateur status would be endangered if they played against Canadian professionals. The real reason was that the Soviets were not ready for NHL players, not just yet. As a result of that, Canada boycotted the World Championships for several years years. The Canadian demand for a showdown between the Soviet professionals and Canada's best got louder and by 1972 the Soviets considered themselves ready. The Summit Series was arranged. I agree with you that this series was marred on several levels. There had been compromises about mixing International rules with NHL rules but in the first game it was comical to see that no one had thought about who gets the last line change. Canadian organizers, such as Al Eagleson, shamed themselves in their eagerness to play the Soviets. Ninety-nine per cent of us Canadians thought that it would be a cakewalk. All our lads would have to do was show up from their summer vacations, loosen up a bit and win all eight games. There was even foolish talk that players like Jean Beliveau and Gordie Howe should be brought out of retirement so they could have a go at them. As a result of all that overconfidence Canadian organizers caved in on pretty much everything, including the most important thing of all: the schedule. We didn't know it at the time but the Soviet ice hockey team was at the forefront of their steroids in sports program. By allowing the Soviets to determine the schedule, we gave them the opportunity to get their drug cycle to peak at the time of the first games in Canada. We were so naive. As late as 1976 at the Montreal Olympics we still didn't get it. East Bloc steroid monsters were winning Ladies gold medals and we believed them when they said, "training & diet". But I digress. Yes, Kharlomov's broken ankle was a cheap shot. But it was no worse than Soviet cheating now that we know about it. It would have been nice to have Hull and Keon on the team, and of course a healthy Bobby Orr would have made a big difference. Your last paragraph is confusing. The Soviets did show how good they were in the 1960's. They were happy to beat college kids and refused to play NHL-ers. In 1972 we saw what the Soviets "could really do" on the big ice in the in the Moscow games. Canada let the first game get away and then won the final three. One more thing: Canadians have a right to feel cheated. Let me ask you this. How many Olympiads passed between the time that Canada could no longer win gold medals with amateurs until they were allowed to to compete with their best players? How many Olympiads passed between the time that the USA could no longer win basketball gold medals with college kids until they were allowed to compete with their best players? Regards.
Respect to the CCCP Team and all Ice Hockey players. If you are a fan of the sport, I strongly recommend the film "Red Army" (also mentioned by other comments here).
Soviets were unreal. These guys operated like a precise machine. But it all came at a price. Tikhonov, got results but basically at the expense of the lives of the players. At the 32 min mark he's talking about his conversation with Kasatonov regarding the mutiny coming from Fetisov and Larionov and tries to say that he gave Kasatonov a option. The guy is a liar. You can see him stammer and look down from the camera while he's giving his side of the interaction. Even Makarov, got touchy and scared when the interviewer asks about Tikhonov. Kind of tells me what a manipulator Tikhonov was and how much he had the players under his thumb.
thesly74 No, he isn't. It's Tikhonov at No.1, Tarassov at No.2 and Bowman at No.3. Tarassov built CCCP hockey from scratch, Tikhonov perfected it and made mighty Red Machine - the greatest ice hockey team ever assembled. Bowman never had to built canadian on anyone's else's hockey program.
Russian Red Army team had to be the most intimidating hockey team for 30 years or so. How USA beat them in 1980 truly was a miracle and forever the greatest upset in the history of sport.
And then 1974 Summit Series Canada only wins one game, again Soviet domination.Canada was never as consistent failing to win several medals in major tournaments, the Soviet conquered everything in a span of decades never leaving without a medal.
@@markodmytriyev4215 he is the villain Herb Brooks innovative the Game but blending both Schools Russia & Canada we have the speed and skills Thanks the Heroic Herbs Brooks not the Evil Tikonoov
Дикое начало фильма. Любой тренер знает знает, что нужно в своём ученике воспитать ярость, помноженную на трезвость восприятия. Это ещё круче, чем карате.
I did not know that all fromSoviet hockey Best Five ( exept Kasatonov) betrayed their coach Father Tikhonov. They exchanged their honor for money.They forgot who helped them to become as they became.Most important in life is to be gratefull to your parent and your coach\mentor. Fetisov and Larionov are happened to be either great players as they are happened to be great conformists.
Very interesting documentary-it is hard to imagine any other country running their national team/club team like this. They truly created great hockey teams and with this system it is hard to imagine a team ever losing. 11 months a year away from family and coach able to control your family life down to whether you get an apartment or a car...draconian. It is a system that could never continue and to me it does take the bloom off the rose of their team achievements-it doesn't diminish the individual players. It is interesting that other then Krutov these guys all blossomed under a free system. I compare this "system" the development of a guy like Gretzky and his dad as demonstrated in the documentary "Gretzky, above and beyond" where Wayne really played and trainedso hard for the love of the game and some money to.
+dr1345 If I was from the US your comments would apply to me. Canada was not perfect but we had an "underground railroad" where Us slaves were assisted to escape to Canada and we never had slaves or separate water fountains and we never imprisoned our athletes so we could win at sports. Listen to what Fetisov and Larionov have to say about getting beat up, lied to and threatened by their own government well into the 90s to stay under the Tikkonov/Army system. Russia has come along way friend. Only an idiot would support such a backward system.
+dr1345 You seem very defensive. Even your own great players Fetisov, Larionov and Makarov said it was a bad system that could not continue. I respect all of the great Russian hockey players and having heard them interviewed I know they hated the Tikkonov/Army system and they did respect the "thugs and goons" of Canada like Orr-Crosby-lemieux-Gretzky-Coffey-Fuhr-Pearrault-Esposito-Howe-Hull and the other Canadian greats. Maybe you know more than Fetisov or maybe you are stuck in the past. Time to grow up and not talk like a kid. It is 2016 and -not 1970 buddy. Watch the "Red Army" documentary and enjoy.
+dr1345 I am not talking about the whole society-just national team/red army hockey system under Tikkonov. I am not comparing communism to capitalism. I will take your word for it if you think it is worse now. I have heard others say that. Just talking hockey. As for documentary-these guys are talking and I hear what they say. I don't care about propaganda... The Russian guys are talking and I hear their words. Do you? . Hockey in Canada/NHL is less physical now and much more fights in the KHL then the NHL today. If it was as brutal as you say how would Gretzky and Laeionov survive? They weighed 75 kg. Times change. Larionov and Fetisov had great careers here so it couldn't be that bad, Ovechkin and Malkin seem happy.
+dr1345 All right-calm down and don't assume we are all assholes who own slaves and like to beat up Russian hockey players. Nice to have a conversation about the game. I would agree with you about the idea of flying in players from NHL at world championships-it hurt the Russian team. One question I have. Did anything come of Fetisov saying Russia should have a law to keep players in Russia until they are 25? By the way-Fetisov was my favorite defenseman when I was playing hockey. Great defending and attacking and he could stand up to anyone.
+dr1345 We both hate the 70s Flyers. They were beating up everyone. Not just the Russians. I loved the Canadians and the WHA jets of the 70s and the Oilers of the 80s who were modeled on these two teams.Cheers.
As an American that rarely sees international success in hockey, it wouldn't be fair to give the USSR their credit in changing hockey. They did assemble some very good teams and that was largely in part to the chemistry they had playing together for all of those years. Canada obviously still housed the best teams for the most part. But Russia had some powerhouses too.
When I played the Soviets and Czechoslovaks - it was quite a spectacle . This were a chess game . Canadians and Americans are too stupid for such virtuoso playing . The whole calculation of the pressure , the fights and individualism . There is no team spirit .
Check out the Soviets fourth Goal against the NHL in February 1987 during Game 2 of the Rendezvous Series AND their Second Goal against the United States during the 1980 Winter Olympics. See the Soviet Pass the Puck to Himself off the SKATE of their Opponents while His Teammate directly on the Other Side skates by Opponents to Lure their Vision to the Other Side of the ice as the Decoy Man. This was one of the Creative Ways they would Compensate for Coverage and I saw the Soviets score several Goals using this Tactic. Soviet Union Coach Viktor Tikhonov was correct when He said that during the 1987 Canada Cup the Officiating was biased against the Soviet Team. If it was not the Soviets would have WON The 1987 Canada Cup !
These creative plays you speak of where the kinds of things done regularly by the Montreal Canadians of the 1970s and the Edmonton Oilers of the 1980's. The kind of passing Gretzky made in the Edmonton days was a full level beyond ANTTHING the Soviets did. You obviously have no knowledge of those teamsOne thing that the unknowledgeable hockey fans like you just don't understand is that the soviet teams of the 1960's, 1970s and early 80s where a true national team. They where drawn mainly from the Red Army and so they played together all the time. The Teams that Canada put together in the 72 summit series and the various Canada Cups where usually put together days before the tournaments. In some cases they literally met at the airport and worked out strategies on the plane. And in most cases, these guys where rivals in the NHL and a lot of them didn't even like each other. But even still they managed to win more against the soviets than they lost due to their superior skills.Since 2000 when all the the major hockey countries are finally able to send their best players and all of them have an equal amount of time to assemble a team, Canada has won 3 gold medals and Russia has won zero gold medals. And for you to claim as true the self serving statement by Viktor Tikhonov that Officiating was biased against them in the 87 Canada Cup proves to me that you have no understanding of hockey.
NO, you are wrong ,he have very good understanding about a hockey and is able to be recognised great hockey team which was USSR ! Yes sovieyts were playing creative hockey compare to Canadians playing brutal over the top physical hockey in those encounters , so pls stop talking shit about Edmonton etc, that is another subject , this debate was about Soviet style and Canadian style of hockey ,You are just another blind Canadian fan who have no ability to recognised that someone else can play good hockey ,To fucken narrow minded way of seeing things
I grew up in former Czechoslovakia, which was obviously occupied by the Soviet army between 1968 and 1991, and our home was nearby one of the Soviet army bases. Long army convoys with tanks and other military vehicles were a daily presence in our home town as we walked past them on our way home from school. The Soviets even took one of the Czech schools for themselves and used it to teach their officers' children, transporting them there and back in a special school bus on a daily basis. Our own (Czech) school kept brainwashing us with stories about the glorious history, amazing present, and bright looking future of the Soviet union, with which Czechoslovakia was said to be friends forever. In reality, of course, it was a friendship between a master and his slave. We used to hate all this Soviet political propaganda and took every opportunity to avoid it, make fun of it, or fight against it. The Soviet ice hockey and most of all, the World Championships in which Czechoslovakia always participated, used to be an opportunity defeat the occupants, at least on the ice if not politically and militarily. I used to hate these great players every time they defeated us, because it felt so unfair. One could not help thinking, 'you took our country you fuc...rs, couldn't you at least let us win the game?' They felt like cold blooded machines, like terminators designed to do just one thing - win the game. The more uplifting it was whenever we would beat them, as for example at the 1985 World Championship in Prague, as victory over Soviets was always the moment of greatest national pride. Simply put, ice hockey used to be big part of our lives. My point is, that I had a chance to watch these players to play live when they were the best - in the Soviet national team. But I wasn't and couldn't be in a position to appreciate how beautifully and well they played, as I was blinded by all the political crap around me, inside my head and the heads of my friends and family. I simply could not see it. Today, I finally can. And partly thanks to this and other documentaries, such as Red Army, I was even able to stop perceiving them as emotionless, cold blooded machines and view them and understand them a little as people. They deserved their victories for everything it cost them. The friendships must have been great. I admire them, but I don't envy them and wouldn't want to switch places with them.
I find it interesting that now we can communicate between the East and West on the internet and yet when we do it always seems to be yelling at each other. Most likely language barriers. Some day soon when languages are instantly and accurately translated perhaps.
and you seem to be a tired old butt with no future and no past. Isn't that a fact ? Time to start looking inside your own soul and see just how dark and depressing and suicidal you really are ? Let's wake up before it's too late
robert, you seem to be wrong on the point. Sven was right: what the hell do the parades, be they May Day one or Victory Day over nazis one, have in common with the hockey at all? Wasn't by the way, May Day, inspired by what had once happened in the USA? Can a nation that lost tens of millions of its citizens in WW2 have a right to celebrate the day of victory in a way they want? So, what's the problem with parades then? So why the f*ck the movie shows parades and bored faces and tired bodies all the way through? Yes, that was tough, but those were national heroes and they did it voluntarily and were fully aware of why and what they were doing. Those were tough patient well-trained real men, not a bunch of sissies.
I felt the extra shots of parades and such was to give a time line and a representation of what’s was going on at the time. It wasn’t politicized unless your a communist who can’t let go. Then maybe you see it as a hit job on communism. Too bad, communism sucks.
@Robert Ryan, now there's a question of the difference between Communist dictatorship as it is in North Korea and the Soviet quasi-Communist not-always-and-not-so-totalitarian regime. I was born in the USSR, lived in it and I see the difference. The movie demonstrates parades in a sequence pretending to impress the western watchers with the idea that parades happened on every Saturday night. Well, the military parades on May 9 happened on big anniversaries, like 40 years, 45 years after 1945. May Day parades were not military, it was just a sort of Eastern Slavic carnival with political overtones, if you will. May Day parades only happened once a year, certainly. The rest 363-364 days the parades happened NOT. The movie pretends to claim, they did.
Funny, Fetisov the champion for democracy as the Soviet Union fell, now a man choosing to be a bureaucrat for an authoritarian. Ideals of freedom and justice are fleeting in Russia, no?
Ларионов конечно оооочень ранимая душа .Парень не поверил что тренера разные .Сидел бы без Тихонова и сидел .Про партнёров даже не вспомнил кто огранил его талант .
The main reason of soviet team in summit series was not to vin by anyway and any coast but to prove to the world and to themselves that canadian pros ARE BEATABLE and so they did that Neither one game canadians did not showed overwhelming superiority They met equal power and each their won was result of very hard struggle plus very dirty playing
No doubt these were among the elite players of the 1980's, but remember the Soviet team were professionals, pulled from an enormous pool, and then sent to tournaments to pummel small countries or those who only had amatuers as their best players were in the NHL, such as in the World Hockey Championships or Olympics. Professionals against amateurs. It would be like a Canadian Olympic team today entering the World Hockey Championship each year. It would be a debacle. Hell, they lost to an amatuer USA team in 1980 and in the 1987 Canada Cup to Canadian team thrown together while the Soviets played together annually. This is a pretty unobjective documentary. It also states Fetisov was the most versatile defenseman of the 1980's but I'm pretty sure Paul Coffey and Raymond Bourque could match him. Even Rod Langway in the early 1980's might have been better.
I included all of the "Best on Best" Tournaments after the colapse of the Soviet Union in 1992 because all of the Soviet achievements now belong to Russia. All of the World Championship Medals etc. at all levels count for Russia, not for the other former Soviet states such as Latvia, Ukraine, Belerus, etc.
in the old days I was happy when the soviets lost, which happened not too often. But now watching old matches from the eighties I have to admit . They never lost their discipline as north american teams did. They often started roughing when they were going to lose.now I have a lot of respect for the soviets
We are that when being boys. In tennis I wanted Becker to lose versus our Swedes. Now I know Becker was the best of the best. Winning is no more important. The sport itself is. Like hockey.
Yes you are certainly an American from America.
Great documentry....i am Canadian, the battels between our nation's were lengendry..thank-you for the memory's.I had no idea what the player's went through! Much respect.
First introduced to Soviet hockey in 1972, I quickly grew to admire many aspects of their style of play. Being a military man in the US in the 1980s, I was torn by a mix of respect, admiration, love and fear for the Soviet hockey machine. By 1990, fear was replaced with hope and a great desire for the well-being of all mankind, even those that we don’t understand. Thank you for this terrific documentary.
The best hockey line in the history for sure. My favourite was always Makarov.
What a great hockey factory - all the skills and teamwork!!
I wonder why they didn't go into "The Russian Five" on the Red Wings? Leaving out Federov, Konstantinov, and Kozlov with Fetisov and Larionov. Completely unrelated, last year I saw Larionov at a Starbucks in Troy, down the road from a Wings training center. My girlfriend at the time couldn't understand why my jaw dropped when I saw him.
Larionov is my second favorite russian player (besides Kovalev), i would had the same reaction
I had a chance to see sasha mogilony play and I have never sern such dedication and a will to win in hockey before.
Fedorov is my favorite and why Im a Fan Of The Anaheim Ducks there my 2nd favorite After Colorado
I know this comment is old, but there is now a movie called The Russian Five. Great movie!
Wow this was awesome. I would include the other two great documentaries Of Miracles and Men and Red Army with this one to be packaged as a trilogy. This told more of the story about Kasatonov which I really enjoyed. I always identified with him the most, and I think he doesn't get enough credit for remaining loyal to his country, his coach, and his team because of the superstardom of Fetisov. Thanks for posting this I'm really glad I found it and enjoyed it very much.
this was one of the best documentaries ive seen about russian hockey. especially how it goes into the relationships between kasatonov and the rest of the team. thanks for posting
My favourite player of that team was the goalkeeper Tretjak.
flyers beat ther ass
I prefer Andrei Vasilveskiy and Jim Craig
R.I.P Vladimir Krutov
Rip
He drank a lot... He was a great player.
Glebov Sergey Firsov too.
@@glebovsergey9259 So many great men, succumb to the effects of alcohol. That is the result of suppression.
"This was our prison" - Sergei Makarov , LOL Very cool documentary, I don't see any bias, these were Soldiers of Hockey, they served the system to the extreme, they have earned the right to say whatever about it.
Incredible documentary. Until I saw this, I would never have imagined the struggle and the sacrifice these guys underwent. But, damn it, they were GOOD!
One word: Legendary national team of all times...no foreign players
Name the foreign players and Canada's national teams.
408Magenta -- watch the documentary Red Army. It goes even deeper than this, and has an incredible feeling to it and legitimacy. You should love it :)
They had to be.
Love of Hockey, Love for your country, dedication, major sacrifices..... Amazing story... So good to see Larionov and Fetisov make it to the NHL and win the Stanley Cup..
Awesome documentary... that KLM line was legendary.
I still remember Krutov and Larionov coming to Vancouver like it was yesterday
me too and i was there to watch them both live... Krutov was one of the biggest disappointments in Canucks history and losing Larionov to Detroit was one of the biggest mistakes in franchise history
The Soviets revolutionized/changed the game forever, and for the better! They were skilled, very physically fit and played the game very logically. Loved conversing with Makarov at his hockey school here in Calgary back in '94 and '95. Great documentary, thanks for showing this film!
Soviet steroid monsters before Canadians had any idea.
@@Mister_Pedanticcope
So sad those guys had to play hockey all day. Every day. What torture it must have been. Few know what ot takes to be the best. The Soviets did. Here a quote, "Gentleman, we are going to search every day for perfection. Knowing that perfection is impossible. But maybe we will find greatness". V. Lombardi.
Wow, Beautiful!!!
considering the achievements, they are quite humble. RIP Vladimir Krutov
44:20. That's Nikita Kucherov who now is 13th in NHL scoring.
Jim Beam and now he’s 1st...
Just look who I got my picture taken with in Halifax Nova Scotia Canada, about 3 years ago, & I'm lovin' it!!
From 1975 to 1991, the clubs of the USSR played 108 matches with the teams of the National Hockey League. During this time, the Clubs of the USSR won 58 victories, 10 matches ended in a draw and lost 40 times to the representatives of the NHL.
The most successful team in NHL history is the Montreal Canadiens, with 24 Stanley Cups and 35 Finals appearances. The greatest number of times the winner of the USSR championship was CSKA Moscow - 32. Their meetings with each other:
12/31/1976 Montreal Canadiens - CSKA - 3: 3
12/31/1979 Montreal Canadiens - CSKA - 4: 2
12/31/1985 Montreal Canadiens - CSKA - 1:6
09/18/1990 CSKA - Montreal Canadiens - 3: 2
CSKA won here!
Also, CSKA is the record holder of the European Ice Hockey Cup, which won 20 titles, and from 1978 to 1990 did it 13 times in a row. Champions of European countries participated in the draws of this tournament.
Therefore, CSKA can be called the strongest team of all time!
Meetings of the owner of the Stanley Cup with the champion of the USSR, who became in the season in which the match took place:
12/29/1979 New York Islanders - CSKA - 2: 3
12/31/1985 Montreal Canadiens - CSKA - 1:6
01/12/1991 Pittsburgh Penguins - Dynamo (Moscow) - 3: 4
Meetings of the owner or finalist of the Stanley Cup with the champion or silver medalist of the USSR Championship, who became in the season in which the matches between them took place:
12/31/1976 Montreal Canadiens - CSKA - 3: 3
01/11/1976 Philadelphia Flyers - CSKA - 4: 1
12/29/1979 New York Islanders - CSKA - 2: 3
12/29/1985 Calgary Flames - Dynamo (Moscow) - 4: 3
12/31/1985 Montreal Canadiens - CSKA - 1:6
01/09/1990 Boston Bruins - Dynamo (Moscow) - 1: 3
09/13/1990 Spartak (Moscow) - Minnesota North Stars - 8: 3
01/12/1991 Pittsburgh Penguins - Dynamo (Moscow) - 3: 4
As can be seen from the results, the USSR clubs on the field turned out to be stronger than the NHL clubs.
Also, the symbolic team of the century included 4 players who played in the USSR championships and 2 players who played in the NHL. The six members of the symbolic team were chosen by voting organized by the IIHF. The selection committee included 56 hockey experts from 16 countries in Europe and North America.
Symbolic team of the century:
Goalkeeper: Vladislav Tretiak (USSR) - 30 votes.
Defender: Vyacheslav Fetisov (USSR) - 54 votes.
Defender: Börje Salming (Sweden) - 17 votes.
Wing: Valery Kharlamov (USSR) - 21 votes.
Wing: Sergei Makarov (USSR) - 18 votes.
Center forward: Wayne Gretzky (Canada) - 38 votes
In connection with the above, the USSR championship can be considered the strongest league in the world!
A great documentary, fantastic....thanks a lot for sharing this film here.
whats great about it chicken butt? Your chicken brain is going wonky
The Red Wing dynasty of the 90s and O0s doesnt get off the ground without The Russian Five. Great documentary. Go Red Wings!
The Soviet Legendary Five - Legendarnaya Pyaterka: Makarov, Larianov, Kruton, Fetisov and Kasatonov! Rest in Peace, Vladimir Krutov - Russian Tank!
Thanks for the English version. Didn't know it existed. Been watching it in Russian.
11:54 :uh, there is a problem with calling the usa a "superpower" in hockey. I know that makes for a good script. but it was and is Canada that is the western hockey superpower. also, the ussr did not "lose an Olympic final" to the usa in 1980. they lost a game in a second stage that wound up costing them the gold but it was not a final.
It’s the same way they justify the prevalent propaganda in their country. When it suits their “side” they’ll eat anything up.
It’s subtly, but it’s how they give you a distorted account of reality by giving you half-truths.
Wieso er hat doch Recht! Es war kein Finale. Es gab nur eine Finalrunde. Die Sowjetunion verlor gegen die USA 3:4. Danach gewannen sie gegen Schweden 9:2. Die USA gewannen das letzte Spiel 4:2 gegen Finnland! Dann war Schluß! Also nicht auf westliche Propaganda reinfallen!!!
Slava Slava Slava!!!! A true hero and the greatest defender!!
Igor was my favorite as a Soviet kid in the 80s. So smart, educated, well-spoken. Smartest player of all time
Lol.. Komm onn.. you dont know that, do ya?.... But less skilled outta these 5??! Definitely YES!
@@ЗВЕРОБОЙ-л6к о чём ты бредишь?
You can see the regret in Krutov’s face.
Rezultat vygryzalsja, chest i slava toj komande!!!
26:53 What a great shot. Rock megastars to a hockey fan.
This movie and Red Army(2014) are the greatest documentaries for the greatest story in sports ever. The latter shows the perspective of Fetisov. My favorite of the bunch is Larionov, he's the stereotypical good guy :)
СССР - это круто! Это моя Родина! Всё было не зря!!!!!!!111
Thank you very much for posting, Comrade.
Canada has a hockey team? I didn't even notice.
I don t know why but this documentary touched me deeply. The Russians are Good People!Respect from Hamburg Germany
Спасибо за видео.
Those were times... In all the time before (from 1920+ there were just four teams that were on the top: SWEDEN, CZECHOSLOVAKIA, SOVIET UNION and CANADA. The standings show, total MEDALS: CZECHOSLOVAKIA - 34 (not counting other medals after the splitting to CZECH REPUBLIC AND SLOVAKIA, would be together 50 now), SOVIET UNION - 34 (not counting other medals from present RUSSIA, would be together 43 now), CANADA - 46, SWEDEN - 45... I am still impressed how countries like ours with Sweden with 4 Mil. people in total in those time could win all that and compete with the best... Now the situation is a different one and will never be the same again..
Sweden had a population of 5 875 693 in the year 1920, 7 013 950 in 1950 and 8 042 657 in 1970. Still impressive though.
Rendez Vous 87 was a great series! Game 1 - NHL 4 vs USSR 3.... Game 2 - USSR 5 NHL 3.
Excellent!!!
Beside these "magnificent five" there were other outstanding players, such as: Babich-Shuvalov-Bobrov; Loktev-Almetov-Alexandrov; Starshinov and Majorov brothers; Firsov-Polupanov-Vikulov; Mikhajlov-Petrov-Kharlamov; Konovalenko; Ragulin, Kuz'kin... the list may be continued.
Soviets were the best
+Vladimir Skala kiss my zhopa!! canadians were the best!!!! and ARE the best!!!
+yokel I see you learned a russian word. Now fuck off.
Ussr russia 27 world cups canada 25 cups ussr won world cup 9 times 1963 1964 1965 1966 1967 1968 1969 1970 1971 soo shut up ussr hockey history 1954-1991 only 37 years exist wons 29 world titles
They played college kids and amateurs in every olympics, and got to play all star nhl teams that had no team chemistry. Theres a reason Russia hasn't won gold since before 1980. Every nations best players are allowed to play for their country (except this year) and Russia got socked in the mouth
твой клиновый лист-ну как и прежде выступает в роли-лопуха !!!разрешаю тебе,прокукарекать,что нибудь мне в ответ !!!
CCCP was playing a 2024 claibre game in the 80s
Perfect. Thanx :-)
really well done with two odd omissions; first, no mention of the impact of Mogilny's defection. Second, what an unmitigated disaster Tikhonov's return to coaching the national team was. They beat Japan and Denmark but lost all other games finishing 10th behind Latvia, Switzerland, and Germany.
Interesting that Anatoli Tarasov wasn't mentioned at all.
Jupe or Valery Kharlomov
Greatest coach of all-time, any sport
He is featured in the outstanding documentary Red Army, by Gabe Polsky. That documentary stands head and shoulders above this one. In Red Army, Slava Fetisov shares so much, and Slava is a great man. Don't miss it!
@@hotdogwater7037 i dont know about any sport but hockey yes I agree.
@@stevehall7479 well youre probably right to some extent, but name a better coach, keeping in mind that he built up a hockey system from a couple of books about hockey, lessons from a chess champion and a ballet instructor, and that his home made system dominated the entire world for more than 40 years
Canada had the best hockey players from the beginning of the game to 1960. Then it gets debatable. If there were more international competitions, especially on big ice, we could have learned more. Obviously the Summit Series was a sham, too political, marred with Bobby Clarke's cheap ankle breaking slash on Kharlomov, and WHA players like Howe, Hull and Keon could not attend.
However the Soviets dominated international hockey from 1960 - 1992. The Canada Cups were important in establishing ice hockey as in international game. It took hockey to the level of Cricket, Rugby and beyond basketball, but not (obviously) as high as Football (soccer). So it was a good thing. Yet, they were biased in favor of Canada. But that is how the game had to grow. You take the '76, '84, '87 Canada Cups and put them on Big Ice, the Canadians lose to the Soviets everytime. And in '81, they lost anyway.
However, the game since the '90's, with the exception of the Nagano Olympics (Czech's) and the '96 World Cup (USA), has been solidly Canadian dominated. Most World Junior Championships, most World Championships, Olympic winners (on big Ice) 2002, 2010, 2014.
Throw in the World Cup (on small ice) 2004, 2016, won by Canada.
The Soviets owned the '60's - 1990. But Canada has been the best since then at all levels, with some great international wins from Sweden, and the Czech's, and 1 by the USA. However, with Kucherov, Tarasenko, and the new wave of Russian talent, I think it's time for another World Cup, or NHL included Olympics.
It's too bad the Soviets could not have shown how good they were to North American Hockey in the 60's and 70's. We should have had more big ice tournaments to see what the Soviets could really do, AND to see what Orr, Hull, Howe, Keon, Mikita and others in their prime could have played like on Big ice against the Big Red machine.
I agree.... Good comment.
Your comment is selective in how it interprets the facts. Let's look at history.
You're correct that Canada had the best hockey players at the beginning. In fact, when the IIHF was founded in Europe, Canada was initially banned from participating because they were too good. When they were eventually admitted they ran roughshod over the European competition, a humiliation that was never forgiven by Bunny Aherne and came back haunt them in the 1960's. In the late 1940's the Soviets decided to play hockey and won the World Championship the first year they entered the tournament, in 1954. However, Canadian amateurs were still competitive as late as 1961 when the Trail Smoke Eaters, a Senior A team won the World Championship. That team was made up of part-time players never good enough to play in the NHL.
The Soviets continued to improve and in the 1960's it became clear that Canada could no longer win World Championships or Olympic gold medals with Senior A players. So the "National Team" concept was born. These were college boys and overage Junior A players. They represented Canada honourably but were no match for the Soviets who were full-time professionals in all but name. Also, Canada was not only playing against the powerful Soviets and the rapidly improving Czechs & Swedes but also the officials on and off the ice. In the late 1960's the IIHF agreed to permit Canada to place a small number of professionals on their team for the World Championships. However, the IIHF quickly reneged when the Soviets vetoed the agreement, claiming that their amateur status would be endangered if they played against Canadian professionals. The real reason was that the Soviets were not ready for NHL players, not just yet. As a result of that, Canada boycotted the World Championships for several years years.
The Canadian demand for a showdown between the Soviet professionals and Canada's best got louder and by 1972 the Soviets considered themselves ready. The Summit Series was arranged. I agree with you that this series was marred on several levels. There had been compromises about mixing International rules with NHL rules but in the first game it was comical to see that no one had thought about who gets the last line change.
Canadian organizers, such as Al Eagleson, shamed themselves in their eagerness to play the Soviets. Ninety-nine per cent of us Canadians thought that it would be a cakewalk. All our lads would have to do was show up from their summer vacations, loosen up a bit and win all eight games. There was even foolish talk that players like Jean Beliveau and Gordie Howe should be brought out of retirement so they could have a go at them. As a result of all that overconfidence Canadian organizers caved in on pretty much everything, including the most important thing of all: the schedule. We didn't know it at the time but the Soviet ice hockey team was at the forefront of their steroids in sports program. By allowing the Soviets to determine the schedule, we gave them the opportunity to get their drug cycle to peak at the time of the first games in Canada. We were so naive. As late as 1976 at the Montreal Olympics we still didn't get it. East Bloc steroid monsters were winning Ladies gold medals and we believed them when they said, "training & diet". But I digress.
Yes, Kharlomov's broken ankle was a cheap shot. But it was no worse than Soviet cheating now that we know about it. It would have been nice to have Hull and Keon on the team, and of course a healthy Bobby Orr would have made a big difference. Your last paragraph is confusing. The Soviets did show how good they were in the 1960's. They were happy to beat college kids and refused to play NHL-ers. In 1972 we saw what the Soviets "could really do" on the big ice in the in the Moscow games. Canada let the first game get away and then won the final three.
One more thing: Canadians have a right to feel cheated. Let me ask you this. How many Olympiads passed between the time that Canada could no longer win gold medals with amateurs until they were allowed to to compete with their best players? How many Olympiads passed between the time that the USA could no longer win basketball gold medals with college kids until they were allowed to compete with their best players?
Regards.
beautiful hockey, the skill the passing was ahead of its time
Respect to the CCCP Team and all Ice Hockey players. If you are a fan of the sport, I strongly recommend the film "Red Army" (also mentioned by other comments here).
Soviets were unreal. These guys operated like a precise machine. But it all came at a price. Tikhonov, got results but basically at the expense of the lives of the players. At the 32 min mark he's talking about his conversation with Kasatonov regarding the mutiny coming from Fetisov and Larionov and tries to say that he gave Kasatonov a option. The guy is a liar. You can see him stammer and look down from the camera while he's giving his side of the interaction. Even Makarov, got touchy and scared when the interviewer asks about Tikhonov. Kind of tells me what a manipulator Tikhonov was and how much he had the players under his thumb.
Richard Ong Yes -well said. And it was Tarasov who pioneered the soviet style of hockey.
GREAT VID!!!THANKS...
R.I.P. comrade Tikhonov - the greatest ice hockey coach of all time...
Scotty Bowman is the greatest hockey coach of all time.
thesly74 No, he isn't. It's Tikhonov at No.1, Tarassov at No.2 and Bowman at No.3. Tarassov built CCCP hockey from scratch, Tikhonov perfected it and made mighty Red Machine - the greatest ice hockey team ever assembled. Bowman never had to built canadian on anyone's else's hockey program.
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Дмитрий Залевский Ochen horosho.:)
Are you kidding?? what about Glenn Sather who created the Oilers Team that won throughout the '80s?
Was looking for a documentary on the green unit of the Red Army and found it here. Really well done.
3 things I have to give the Russians. And in order. 1) Hockey 2) Vodka (now that is enough isn't it?) 3) the AK-47.
Russian Red Army team had to be the most intimidating hockey team for 30 years or so. How USA beat them in 1980 truly was a miracle and forever the greatest upset in the history of sport.
But, CCCP hocke team best of all history of this sport!
And then 1974 Summit Series Canada only wins one game, again Soviet domination.Canada was never as consistent failing to win several medals in major tournaments, the Soviet conquered everything in a span of decades never leaving without a medal.
+Samir Kosov Uh, the Canada team in 74 was not an NHL team. sorry for pointing out the facts to you.
The good old days when testing for banned substances was in its infancy. Make the Russians great again by allowing performance enhancing drugs.
It made Canada start having to play a team sport. Best thing that happened to hockey was that series.
It was Team WHA not Canada. As for Soviet Union it itself was funded by a 'New York' bank in the early1920's.
It was Team WHA with a 46-year-old Gordie Howe on the roster.
Best hockey team ever
At 18:00 Tikhonov was away from his family most of the year just like the players were.
@@markodmytriyev4215 he is the villain Herb Brooks innovative the Game but blending both Schools Russia & Canada we have the speed and skills Thanks the Heroic Herbs Brooks not the Evil Tikonoov
Great clip!
Дикое начало фильма. Любой тренер знает знает, что нужно в своём ученике воспитать ярость, помноженную на трезвость восприятия. Это ещё круче, чем карате.
soviets had the best national anthem
Jason L and architecture.......
Yea cause they were held captive to do so.
@@pickles8299 wtf, “held captive” 😂😂
I did not know that all fromSoviet hockey Best Five ( exept Kasatonov) betrayed their coach Father Tikhonov. They exchanged their honor for money.They forgot who helped them to become as they became.Most important in life is to be gratefull to your parent and your coach\mentor. Fetisov and Larionov are happened to be either great players as they are happened to be great conformists.
Very interesting documentary-it is hard to imagine any other country running their national team/club team like this. They truly created great hockey teams and with this system it is hard to imagine a team ever losing. 11 months a year away from family and coach able to control your family life down to whether you get an apartment or a car...draconian. It is a system that could never continue and to me it does take the bloom off the rose of their team achievements-it doesn't diminish the individual players. It is interesting that other then Krutov these guys all blossomed under a free system. I compare this "system" the development of a guy like Gretzky and his dad as demonstrated in the documentary "Gretzky, above and beyond" where Wayne really played and trainedso hard for the love of the game and some money to.
+dr1345 If I was from the US your comments would apply to me. Canada was not perfect but we had an "underground railroad" where Us slaves were assisted to escape to Canada and we never had slaves or separate water fountains and we never imprisoned our athletes so we could win at sports. Listen to what Fetisov and Larionov have to say about getting beat up, lied to and threatened by their own government well into the 90s to stay under the Tikkonov/Army system. Russia has come along way friend. Only an idiot would support such a backward system.
+dr1345 You seem very defensive. Even your own great players Fetisov, Larionov and Makarov said it was a bad system that could not continue. I respect all of the great Russian hockey players and having heard them interviewed I know they hated the Tikkonov/Army system and they did respect the "thugs and goons" of Canada like Orr-Crosby-lemieux-Gretzky-Coffey-Fuhr-Pearrault-Esposito-Howe-Hull and the other Canadian greats. Maybe you know more than Fetisov or maybe you are stuck in the past. Time to grow up and not talk like a kid. It is 2016 and -not 1970 buddy. Watch the "Red Army" documentary and enjoy.
+dr1345 I am not talking about the whole society-just national team/red army hockey system under Tikkonov. I am not comparing communism to capitalism. I will take your word for it if you think it is worse now. I have heard others say that. Just talking hockey. As for documentary-these guys are talking and I hear what they say. I don't care about propaganda... The Russian guys are talking and I hear their words. Do you? . Hockey in Canada/NHL is less physical now and much more fights in the KHL then the NHL today. If it was as brutal as you say how would Gretzky and Laeionov survive? They weighed 75 kg. Times change. Larionov and Fetisov had great careers here so it couldn't be that bad, Ovechkin and Malkin seem happy.
+dr1345 All right-calm down and don't assume we are all assholes who own slaves and like to beat up Russian hockey players. Nice to have a conversation about the game. I would agree with you about the idea of flying in players from NHL at world championships-it hurt the Russian team. One question I have. Did anything come of Fetisov saying Russia should have a law to keep players in Russia until they are 25? By the way-Fetisov was my favorite defenseman when I was playing hockey. Great defending and attacking and he could stand up to anyone.
+dr1345 We both hate the 70s Flyers. They were beating up everyone. Not just the Russians. I loved the Canadians and the WHA jets of the 70s and the Oilers of the 80s who were modeled on these two teams.Cheers.
Brings tears to my eyes.
SLAVA CCCP
They were the best.
I played hockey throughout my youth. And idolized igor larionov.
As an American that rarely sees international success in hockey, it wouldn't be fair to give the USSR their credit in changing hockey. They did assemble some very good teams and that was largely in part to the chemistry they had playing together for all of those years. Canada obviously still housed the best teams for the most part. But Russia had some powerhouses too.
It was a Fab 6 with Tretiak.
In Soviet Russia, game play you!
When I played the Soviets and Czechoslovaks - it was quite a spectacle . This were a chess game . Canadians and Americans are too stupid for such virtuoso playing . The whole calculation of the pressure , the fights and individualism . There is no team spirit .
+Alexander Wisber
I agree. Is it still possible in our times of spectacle and money? To wake up this spirit?
++++++you are so right!!!
Check out the Soviets fourth Goal against the NHL in February 1987 during Game 2 of the Rendezvous Series AND their Second Goal against the United States during the 1980 Winter Olympics. See the Soviet Pass the Puck to Himself off the SKATE of their Opponents while His Teammate directly on the Other Side skates by Opponents to Lure their Vision to the Other Side of the ice as the Decoy Man. This was one of the Creative Ways they would Compensate for Coverage and I saw the Soviets score several Goals using this Tactic. Soviet Union Coach Viktor Tikhonov was correct when He said that during the 1987 Canada Cup the Officiating was biased against the Soviet Team. If it was not the Soviets would have WON The 1987 Canada Cup !
These creative plays you speak of where the kinds of things done regularly by the Montreal Canadians of the 1970s and the Edmonton Oilers of the 1980's. The kind of passing Gretzky made in the Edmonton days was a full level beyond ANTTHING the Soviets did. You obviously have no knowledge of those teamsOne thing that the unknowledgeable hockey fans like you just don't understand is that the soviet teams of the 1960's, 1970s and early 80s where a true national team. They where drawn mainly from the Red Army and so they played together all the time. The Teams that Canada put together in the 72 summit series and the various Canada Cups where usually put together days before the tournaments. In some cases they literally met at the airport and worked out strategies on the plane. And in most cases, these guys where rivals in the NHL and a lot of them didn't even like each other. But even still they managed to win more against the soviets than they lost due to their superior skills.Since 2000 when all the the major hockey countries are finally able to send their best players and all of them have an equal amount of time to assemble a team, Canada has won 3 gold medals and Russia has won zero gold medals.
And for you to claim as true the self serving statement by Viktor Tikhonov that Officiating was biased against them in the 87 Canada Cup proves to me that you have no understanding of hockey.
NO, you are wrong ,he have very good understanding about a hockey and is able to be recognised great hockey team which was USSR ! Yes sovieyts were playing creative hockey compare to Canadians playing brutal over the top physical hockey in those encounters , so pls stop talking shit about Edmonton etc, that is another subject , this debate was about Soviet style and Canadian style of hockey ,You are just another blind Canadian fan who have no ability to recognised that someone else can play good hockey ,To fucken narrow minded way of seeing things
That pass at 15:40 was insane
I grew up in former Czechoslovakia, which was obviously occupied by the Soviet army between 1968 and 1991, and our home was nearby one of the Soviet army bases. Long army convoys with tanks and other military vehicles were a daily presence in our home town as we walked past them on our way home from school. The Soviets even took one of the Czech schools for themselves and used it to teach their officers' children, transporting them there and back in a special school bus on a daily basis.
Our own (Czech) school kept brainwashing us with stories about the glorious history, amazing present, and bright looking future of the Soviet union, with which Czechoslovakia was said to be friends forever. In reality, of course, it was a friendship between a master and his slave.
We used to hate all this Soviet political propaganda and took every opportunity to avoid it, make fun of it, or fight against it. The Soviet ice hockey and most of all, the World Championships in which Czechoslovakia always participated, used to be an opportunity defeat the occupants, at least on the ice if not politically and militarily.
I used to hate these great players every time they defeated us, because it felt so unfair. One could not help thinking, 'you took our country you fuc...rs, couldn't you at least let us win the game?' They felt like cold blooded machines, like terminators designed to do just one thing - win the game. The more uplifting it was whenever we would beat them, as for example at the 1985 World Championship in Prague, as victory over Soviets was always the moment of greatest national pride. Simply put, ice hockey used to be big part of our lives.
My point is, that I had a chance to watch these players to play live when they were the best - in the Soviet national team. But I wasn't and couldn't be in a position to appreciate how beautifully and well they played, as I was blinded by all the political crap around me, inside my head and the heads of my friends and family. I simply could not see it. Today, I finally can.
And partly thanks to this and other documentaries, such as Red Army, I was even able to stop perceiving them as emotionless, cold blooded machines and view them and understand them a little as people. They deserved their victories for everything it cost them. The friendships must have been great. I admire them, but I don't envy them and wouldn't want to switch places with them.
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Going to see Red Army Doc Friday.
Teabagonyou which did u like better?
Red Army was very good! See it!
+666mathew you need to see both to get a better picture anyway
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I find it interesting that now we can communicate between the East and West on the internet and yet when we do it always seems to be yelling at each other. Most likely language barriers. Some day soon when languages are instantly and accurately translated perhaps.
Some of the greatest players to play the game of hockey
Tiresome to watch as its is politicized and biased
and you seem to be a tired old butt with no future and no past. Isn't that a fact ? Time to start looking inside your own soul and see just how dark and depressing and suicidal you really are ? Let's wake up before it's too late
robert, you seem to be wrong on the point. Sven was right: what the hell do the parades, be they May Day one or Victory Day over nazis one, have in common with the hockey at all? Wasn't by the way, May Day, inspired by what had once happened in the USA? Can a nation that lost tens of millions of its citizens in WW2 have a right to celebrate the day of victory in a way they want? So, what's the problem with parades then? So why the f*ck the movie shows parades and bored faces and tired bodies all the way through? Yes, that was tough, but those were national heroes and they did it voluntarily and were fully aware of why and what they were doing. Those were tough patient well-trained real men, not a bunch of sissies.
I felt the extra shots of parades and such was to give a time line and a representation of what’s was going on at the time. It wasn’t politicized unless your a communist who can’t let go. Then maybe you see it as a hit job on communism. Too bad, communism sucks.
@Robert Ryan, now there's a question of the difference between Communist dictatorship as it is in North Korea and the Soviet quasi-Communist not-always-and-not-so-totalitarian regime. I was born in the USSR, lived in it and I see the difference. The movie demonstrates parades in a sequence pretending to impress the western watchers with the idea that parades happened on every Saturday night. Well, the military parades on May 9 happened on big anniversaries, like 40 years, 45 years after 1945. May Day parades were not military, it was just a sort of Eastern Slavic carnival with political overtones, if you will. May Day parades only happened once a year, certainly. The rest 363-364 days the parades happened NOT. The movie pretends to claim, they did.
@Les Moore, perhaps, I've or someone else missed the point. But there's still a feeling of too much anti-Soviet propaganda in the documentary.
does mother russia not produce right handed sticks?
+erichansen82 There're all leftist, remember!
The best .
CCCP presented ales teams, how played hocke!
Funny, Fetisov the champion for democracy as the Soviet Union fell, now a man choosing to be a bureaucrat for an authoritarian. Ideals of freedom and justice are fleeting in Russia, no?
Fetisov is not respected in Russia ...
Ларионов конечно оооочень ранимая душа .Парень не поверил что тренера разные .Сидел бы без Тихонова и сидел .Про партнёров даже не вспомнил кто огранил его талант .
Сергей Павлов с такими как Крутов и Макаров даже это бревно играло.
NICE TO WATCH IT
best best best film ever
34:30 RIP Pat Quinn.
In summit series USSR win Canada in 96 meets. Canada win USSR 63 meets. Drow game was 16 meets. Canada was weak team in 1970s-1990s.
The main reason of soviet team in summit series was not to vin by anyway and any coast but to prove to the world and to themselves that canadian pros ARE BEATABLE and so they did that Neither one game canadians did not showed overwhelming superiority They met equal power and each their won was result of very hard struggle plus very dirty playing
What is the name of the song that starts at 7:59 ?? Anybody ???
Ochichornia (Ojos Negros) · Traditional · Orquesta Y Coros De Los Boteros Del Volga
It's a rare gift to be able to read the intentions of your adversary...
Amazing and equally shocking what these guys went through, one day a week at home with their families should have been allowed.
Tikhonov should have been a coach in the NHL. He would have been the best coach ever..... there would be no slackers!!
I remember Slava hoisting The Cup in Red Square. I felt so happy for him and his country.
No doubt these were among the elite players of the 1980's, but remember the Soviet team were professionals, pulled from an enormous pool, and then sent to tournaments to pummel small countries or those who only had amatuers as their best players were in the NHL, such as in the World Hockey Championships or Olympics. Professionals against amateurs. It would be like a Canadian Olympic team today entering the World Hockey Championship each year. It would be a debacle. Hell, they lost to an amatuer USA team in 1980 and in the 1987 Canada Cup to Canadian team thrown together while the Soviets played together annually. This is a pretty unobjective documentary. It also states Fetisov was the most versatile defenseman of the 1980's but I'm pretty sure Paul Coffey and Raymond Bourque could match him. Even Rod Langway in the early 1980's might have been better.
The very first melody, what song is this?
Ochi Chorny?
I included all of the "Best on Best" Tournaments after the colapse of the Soviet Union in 1992 because all of the Soviet achievements now belong to Russia. All of the World Championship Medals etc. at all levels count for Russia, not for the other former Soviet states such as Latvia, Ukraine, Belerus, etc.
It's between them and USA Women's Basketball for greatest international team of all time
Had no idea SVT had released an english version of this.
1:08-1:37 anyone know the name of that song?
There March The Soldiers - Red Army Choir th-cam.com/video/Fn7rYISuUpw/w-d-xo.html
Most of the Red Army Choir songs are on TH-cam. Most of them sound really COOL!