Did the OnePlus Open just take the multitasking crown? Open Canvas compared to Z Fold
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You're the only video I have come across on TH-cam so far that actually shows the little differences between the multitasking between these phones and I really appreciate you for making this video.
Having options for foldables is just so great!
That full page style multitasking is pretty amazing. Not only should every other foldable implement that, but that would work on regular phones. I can see iOS doing that honestly and it would be amazing. It’s crazy how no other os has thought of that, it’s pretty ingenious especially for non-foldables imo.
I don't find it that amazing cause in any phone you can swipe at bottom and it will open next or previous app
@@mehulrathod7185 not the same thing, that’s takes you setting it up so the apps are next to each other in app switcher. Sometimes they just refresh when you leave and come back, you can create app pairs so you can jump right in.. I can give 10 more reasons but that’s enough. Bottom line, this is way more fluid and nice. These companies are huge corporations, the consumers are supposed to continually push them to further improve products. If we had nothing but people like you, we’d probably have iPhone 4’s for $1500. I’m paying my money, I want the best of the best.
Great video as always. It is def interesting how each manuf has a diff way of doing multi tasking as well as back gestures. One thing I like about the OPO which I haven't heard you mention yet is expanding all 3 of the apps at the same time when you have 3 open in addition to the expanding one and than having 2 side by side.
amazing coverage bro - thanks for making a full video on just the multi tasking features of these devices
This battery life on the Open has been so good. Maybe it's because I use the cover screen more but it's definitely noticeable compared to the Fold 5
I agree my battery life has been crazy good. Overall I am happy with the device. We do need some case support
@@trapharder4844 Any reviewer that claims the battery life is the same as the Fold 5 is not correct. If you optimize the battery on the one plus it will feel closer to that of a S23 ultra in battery life which was incredible. Fold 5 battery life was so awful because you had to use the inner screen more
Samsung has better software. And after seeing durability test from other reviewers on the fold, I rock it without a case. The folding phones are too bulky with a case on. I'll wait and see what the other iterations are like.
@@riverjustice Samsung has better software to a certain point. They fail at multitasking
What's funny about what Oneplus is doing is that it's basically the WebOS 'Cards' that both iOS and Android utilize, except crammed into a place where you can't dismis them. It works but it's really not that different from the general multi app overview. The parting the waters gesture is pretty cool. Seems very fun and intuitive.
The comparison between the three folds towards the end summed it all up. Thanks
Following all of your coverage on this cuz you seem to care more/be more thorough than others. Well done.
Hoping you get to try the Oppo Pen
Another good video, Shane. Thanks. For multi-tasking I've notice that none of these phones can touch the DYO 2. The simplicity of the DUO is what makes it stand out from the others. Very simple and easy. Keep the videos coming.
There is a reason that the DUO is dead. It lacks far behind in all other critical areas and has a giant physical gap in the middle. How would you watch a basic video.? Pretend that the repulsive fissure isn't there? No where comparable to even the least foldable phone.
DUO 2 has a giant gap in the middle? HMMMMMM.... OK. You would watch a video on one of the screens. Remember, each screen is rather large. Have you actually used a DUO 2 before? If so, then you probably wouldn't have made those statements. LOL....@@premiertaxconsultingservic4769
Multitasking is the main reason why I'm considering foldables as my next phone.
So this video really helping me making decision! Thanks alot.
Love the video Shane, would you suggest buying the fold or wait for xiaomi mix fold 4 on the hopes that its a global release.
Awesome comparison, thanks.
Thanks for going more in depth with this video!! OP canvas is very cool and glad to see oppos gestures make it over bc its must easier than samsungs 2 finger swipe from the side (i trigger the back button all the time). When saving as a pair on the OP, do you have the options to save it to the dock, taskbar, or homescreen?
I wish samsung would take the option to tap to splitscreen from the side dock settings and bring it to the taskbar. I always forget that w the task bar if i tap an app it will swap to that app, but i have my dock set to tap to splitscreen the selected app. Glad to see OP include a dock, even if its inconsistent.
I am 52 and having a folding phone blows my mind ! I love my Fold 5 but may look at the Open if I can get my hand on it before I buy it.
Imagine if we could have Multi-Window options on Surface Duo 2, that would be awesome for Bitwarden or LastPass where you just need to grab login credentials...
Top class video Shane! Thank you!
I love my pixel fold but keep getting so close to ordering the Oneplus open. Shane, how do you like the Oneplus vs the pixel fold so far?
The Open is very, very tempting - but then I stop and think of all the times I've needed repairs for my Z Fold and wonder "How exactly does someone get their OnePlus repaired? Where to find inner display screen protectors? What's OnePlus's customer service like?" (When checking the OnePlus subreddit, I have to say folks there are especially salty about OnePlus quality...).
I am really an enjoying watching you play with this one open and showing all the options between Samsung. I really like the way one open is doing three screens I look forward to other videos doing multitasking since that's the main reason I would get this phone
oneplus has the best implementation of multitasking of all the foldables in the us market. Do agree about the inconsistencies and bugs. They need to work those things out. One thing I don't like is if you use multitasking in landscape mode, there are a lot more of the borders on the side which is wasted space.
The best videos I've seen on the Open. I just bought one and massively appreciate the content you're putting out buddy
Awesome, thank you!
Would be great if they add having 3 side by side panels plus one large expanded one at the bottom. Don’t know if the phone’s ram would be able to handle it though.
However i love open canvas it adds a fun element to the idea of multitasking and it adds an additional option that solves the issue of having to shrink app window size when multitasking in situations where you dont need to see both apps simultaneously on display but still have either app a simple one tap away.
(Particularly for me alot of times im online shopping or browsing reddit whilst playing youtube; i can enjoy more real estate to browse or shop online and still have youtube a tap away, optionally as a big window as well without having to switch between apps the usual way when using them independently in full screen)
great video , thanks
Probably been pointed out but have you gone through permissions of all apps to make sure floating windows and other things have been enabled?
the wider screen is so nice especially with the split view... I'm so tempted to trade in my zfold
I have the z fold 5 and I'm seriously thinking about trading it in to get the oneplus open. Let me know what you decide to do. That might make me go ahead and do it. Lol
Yeah more reviews should do comparisons on how the multitasking QoL features are. Been wondering Opencanvas multitasking since it'll be super useful, but then realized Oppo couldn't quite get a 3 multi-windows open made me think I might lean on Fold 5 instead. Plus yeah, I used the floating windows a ton, even on regular candybar phones. They're just so useful for quick glance stuff. Thanks for making this video.
Did you enable Freeform windows for all apps in developer settings?
Is it possible to create a link to a multi window group, but not google chrome in general but a specific homepage? P.e. a specific homepage with a calendar in chrome and the google calendar App?
Thanks Shane, One thing I have not been able to do Multitasking (Coming from a Duo) is split horizontally and play a video on the top half and work on the bottom, If you can make it work please make a video
Great video. I just learned that Threads is still alive!
Threads is actually doing quite well for me. Engagement is often higher than it is on Twitter, and the quality of set engagement is significantly better.
Thanks for the great run down of the split screen multitasking. Hopefully Oneplus can continue to refine the in focus back navigation for it to be more consistent. As for me whose still not fan of gestures on Android devices, my question is does the Open have the traditional 3 navigation buttons u can enable in settings? Thanks.
Gestures on Android are much better than others...
Even they are implemented with major functionality unlike some OS who don't even have a proper universal back button...
I enjoy your videos! I have an off topic question, Which water app are you using that gives you those widgets?
I think it's called hydro coach pro
As someone who uses the Fold5 as a work device where I need multiple apps open AND viewable at any given time and the ability to utilize Dex, I could not utilize the Open in a multi task oriented way. As much as I wanted to LOVE the Open due to it's larger form factor, I just couldn't use it to replace my Fold5 unfortunately. I'm hoping Samsung reads the room. I doubt it'll happen with the Fold6, but the Fold7 needs to have the bigger screen real estate. I personally don't care too much about the cameras even if they are nice to have, hate the concept of giving up even a small amount of battery space for slow AF wireless charging and love fast wired charging so kudos to the Open for that.
Thinking of swapping my iPhone 14 pro max for this. Is the video size any bigger horizontally when compared to watching on an iPhone in landscape? It doesn’t look like though
Probably the only video that shows the reviews the real capability of a folding phone!
The last app you touched is responding to the back gesture makes totally sense. I don't see why you cant see that.
"how could anyone possibly have their own opinion?"
@@scaryifliteral I was stating the obvious .. I don't know if ur trying to be sarcatsic but if you cant handle comments then why make youtube.
Very good information to help consumers especially given the cost of these devices!
Have been searching for this after I got Android 14 on my Find N2 :)
What is ur widget name for screen time u use?
big TH-camrs arent showing the diff in multitasking between Open and other Foldables, especially Fold4/5
Finally watching these videos on foldable
This is such a wonderful video! So much more useful than reviews that go over the specs, THIS UX is an important buying decision.
Glad it was helpful!
Any words on pen usage for the OnePlus open?
Maybe its Samsung’s OneUI forcing most apps to do split screen.
It also could be Samsung’s GoodLock app (if you have it installed / activated) forcing all apps to do spilt screen.
You probably have already figured it out. But if you have 3 apps opened and the drag-and-drop floating window won't work, you can use the four-finger gesture to make it floating and the background will just jump back to the previous 3 apps.
One thing I found weird though is that whenever I put it to sleep and turn it back on, I will be left will the active app on fullscreen only. No more multi-window.
Coming from Duo I love Open Canvas!
Heard oppo find n pen might work as a stylus, is this true?...cos if it is, then I'm definitely migrating to oneplus
Potential solution for the three app situation on OnePlus: whatever app is "off screen" just doesn't have a back gesture. If the third app is off to the side on the left then the "middle" app gets the left side gesture. The off screen app isn't in focus so nothing to swipe back on (you're not actively working on it at that moment).
I've been multitasking on my slab phones for a minute now and I'm wondering how are the two smaller applications in multi-window not good? I understand OnePlus concept but it's just different. Not better in my eyes.😊 Still enjoy your content sir.
They're just too small for me 😂
It's good that there are so many options now for people though
@@scaryifliteral The small windows I think would be useful for TH-cam music or Bitwarden or LastPass where you just need to have playback controls or to be able to quickly grab credentials to copy/paste.
One Question; Can we consider one plus open as a practical solution to the absence of Windows Duo 3 !!! To me I don’t think so even though I see many TH-camrs trying to advertise this idea
On Fold5 when you have 3 apps open at the same time, you can actually resize them horizontally. So you have one narrow one for twitter for example, and two wide ones on top of eachother. On 1+ Open you cannot resize the two apps, they can only occupy 50% of the screen.
Works besst with navigation buttons vs swipe gestures as a whole imo.
How does the back button work then? Always affect the active (last touched) app, I guess?
The OnePlus Open is definitely the foldable to get. But man the form factor on the Pixel Fold has a hold on me. Being able to get it through my carrier helps too
I want the One Plus Open but that dag on Wireless Charging and Water resistance is important. Rainy Seasons happen where I live. I'm not going back to putting my device inside of a Ziploc bag.
Off topic but do you notice any wifi drops or slowing to a crawl. For example I run a 1 gig in on a wifi 6e. It just doesn't seem as stable or consistent as my z fold 5. I hope that an update fixes this. Thanks 👍🏼
Great video Shane
Not that I've seen
I can't help but see in your hands that the Pixel.Fold looks like what the Surface Duo 3 would have looked like. Nice, square, polished, fits in your hand nicely.
So after playing a few days with them all, longer with others, which one will replace your Surface Duo 2?
Wow, there are so many ways to play around with multi-tasking.. It is normal, or it's just me not doing so.. i only opened one app at a time.. and very seldom open the main screen.. usually, im only using the cover screen on my fold 4.. 😂 with small fingger, the cover screen is just perfect size.. and i love how smooth the software is on samsung.. never once i have an issue with my phone.. it is still early to say😅 it's been a year tho
Why didn't you just buy a Samsung S23 or another Samsung phone rather than a Fold 4? If you never really use the larger screen why did you buy it?
@kingzach74 Good question like i mentioned earlier it is not that "never" instead "seldom" due to no matter what u do, the battery drains faster... only open like
No 1. im playing games, then only i open the main screen.. and
no 2 coco melon 🤣 i have 2 daughters 2 and 3 years old.. not S-pen type.. but I love the big screen apart from multitasking. i also like to show off BHAHAHAHAHA
S23 / S22 screen is too big for normal use as my hands are very small.
Easy to say im from Sony Xperia.. so this is the most suitable size and has a bigger screen if i need it..
Hope this answers ur questions 🙇♂️
that multi tasking alone is making me want to dispose my fold 4 for a oneplus open!
(i just hope Oneplus Open or even the pixel series, would have a Dex option)
(last Oneplus phone: 8T ... mmm looks like im going back!)
I prefer tje open canvas implementation on oneplus
Nothing beats it....not just being able to 10 apps. Are they usable?
My algorithm hid you from me, but you can't hide from 'Loot!
I'm really feeling this OnePlus Open. I need a Surface Duo successor
Shane thanks for another great video. Oneplus solution just way better than that 1+2 tiny windows on z fold . Pretty useless。and not talking the cramped screen.
The OnePlus open looks interesting, but when using Pixel Fold when using two apps it is about as good as any. But if you have 3 apps open full screen or split, you can swipe between each app by swiping up from the bottom. Also if you are watching a TH-cam video it can run in a floating window while you are using other apps. even in split screen. I am from the surface duo world. I am currently using the Pixel Fold (running 14 beta). When I first started using the Pixel Fold I had one over heating (bright sun 90 degrees) I could not see the screen in the bright sun and battery life was not good. Once I upgraded to the beta 14, No overheating, bright sun light not a problem, battery life very good. Also you have the ability to resize most apps (not All)
Yeah, it could be because it's not activated. In development mode and visual, the oppo might not be. Cause in samsung that's not considered hitting settings
Some of this could come to the Pixel Fold in a software update
Undeniably, foldable devices are catching fire here in North america. However, until more competition emerges in the marketplace to drive down the cost I will remain a spectator. frankly, I feel $1,700-$1,800 is beyond prohibitive. In fact, it makes me want to check my birth certificate just to make sure that I wasn't born yesterday.🤣 Still, I'm a huge fan of OnePlus devices and I feel that this is the best foldable that I've seen yet.
Nothing beats the duo when comes to multitasking. I would pay money for a duo launcher on my OnePlus open. My two main multitasking issues is keyboard covers both apps, which means I can't work on one side and view full app on other side. Secondly Outlook can no longer put my schedule on one side and my email on another. Say what you want about duo, but it really does multitasking better than any of these foldables. I think Microsoft should consider a duo launcher for these foldables .
I thought they've always had that launcher available for Android no? I remember watching multiple videos showing that.
@@darkslide_everything Nope. Microsoft Launcher is not the duo experience. But as it turns out when outlook is on the big screen it knows and gives you the ability to split between mail and calendar so one of my issues have gone away.
Is it me, or are the blacks much deeper and darker on the Z Fold 5 screen?
Thanks for this video about a detailed issue. I think Oneplu is reinventing multi tasking IMHO. Oppo / 1 + are innovative companies. Competition is great to shake up things rather than have this Apple- Samsung duopoly. I think i am going for the 1+Open and will see what happens when Samsung releases the Fold 6. If Samsung doesn't change things with the next Fold, then they are done.
Go OnePlus!!!
What would u say abt 16:9 outer screen on foldables? Wouldnt that be better aspect ratio?
I mean, Pixel Fold is remarkably close to that and I love it lol.
@@scaryifliteral is that the best aspect ratio as per ur experience?
Best is subjective. All I can say is I like it.
@@scaryifliteral
Oh that makes sense
Btw what would be the most fav screen ratio for flip phones?
The Open is am epic phone, but holding it fully open in the hands gets tiring very fast, and putting it down open on a desk? The camera bump makes it rock and uneven.
I probably hop on the open
I don't understand the expanded view on the op. For me it's no different then having 3 apps open full screen in the z fold and swiping the bottom of the screen to move between the full screen apps. Only the z fold does it better as you see the whole screen app not 3/4 of an app with wasted space at the top/side etc to allow you to click to there to click it into focus. Also the z fold can have any number of apps open that you can swipe between rather than be limited to 3. I know the op can do this as well. Kind I said I just dont see the point of the expanded view over anything multitasking on the z fold
Shane, no one is really touching on app bubbles regarding the Samsung fold. It makes multitasking extremely efficient. You can have as many app bubbles as you went on screen that all quickly switch to full size apps.
App bubbles are just minimized floating apps
@@AIejandroide True but it's the same ease as swiping over for a 3rd screen or enlarging one screen while still having two apps open.
Z Fold is just the best period.
Watching this on my OnePlus open
OnePlus didn't settle.
I agree with you on Oneplus multi-window it's much better than Samsung and hopefully Oneplus will update the software for all apps and features soon.
This OnePlus seems to be a great smartphone but multitasking is what's going to keep me on my Fold 5 for the time being. Yes, I prefer the Samsung way of displaying 3 apps. For me it's usable, I sometimes have a document on the left, a calculator on the top right and my notes on the bottom right for example. Especially on the OnePlus, when you have the 3 apps side by side, there are bars that appear at the top and bottom and I don't like that at all.
But above all, I use floating windows a lot, so they need to be functional with all the apps. Then there are the little things I'd miss a bit, like the stylus or the photo sensor that disappears under the screen...
Yep, totally fair. It's really nice that there are so many good options now.
What I hate on my OnePlus is when your watching a video on the front screen and slightly open the phone the front screen switches off I miss what my zfold 5 had you could open the phone to use it as a stand , one plus no no sadly.
Better than Pixel Fold. Not better than Z Fold. Yet.
I had a OP Open and ran into a lot of scaling issues and outright head scratching roadblocks and limitations with some of the apps I use. It may be fixed later on, but im not waiting for the return window to expire to see if that rings true.
The scaling issues are exactly why I abandoned Samsung zfold3&4, as it's too narrow which makes apps have those errors.
Having 3apps open is usually more a gimmick feature, instead of a productivity feature anyways.
Issues gone with using Pixel Fold logical book format and normal sized apps for zero problems.
All thru out human history we used book format, which is same as laptop format and TV format.
Nobody is going to buy a vertical TV to watch vertically, but it's what Samsung wants you to do.
@@Maxx134a this is not proven true in my experience. I'm not somebody that uses three apps very often but I do want the functionality that Samsung provides and that is consistently functional. As Shane describes in the video, OnePlus can only theoretically do half the stuff it's talking about doing. Many times you are met with apps that won't rescale to use pop-up view or split screen correctly. These are issues that are non-existent on my Fold 5. Also have several apps that I like to save as split view shortcuts but since some of these apps don't work within the OnePlus multitasking system I can't save them at all. The Pixel isn't a bad solution in some ways but I don't have any issues with apps whatsoever on the Z Fold and whatever I tell the phone to do it does. This flexibility has kept me away from the pixel fold not to mention the fact that they're charging $1,800 for last year's processor and subpar displays and charging in general. I also feel like the OnePlus and the Z Fold feel good in one hand whether it's opened or closed where the pixel fold feels awkward when it's open and trying to use with one hand.
There is no app pairs on the Pixel Fold at all ... In fact, I don't think it's coming.
will the new Pixel fold 14 QPR beta you can do App pairs now. and you can also make apps fit full screen. the big thing no one really talks about the oneplus Open (which I have also) will never see much 3rd party support. I love my carbon fiber case for my pixel fold and glass screen protector. maybe in time oneplus will get there.
Do you like your Oneplus more than the pixel fold so far? I have a pixel fold but I’m heavily considering a Oneplus open but I think I’ll miss the pixel lol.
@ LBastone I like the Pixel Fold more with the latest QPR beta. I hate that the OnePlus has no wireless charge even though I hacked it in. Performance wise I don't really see any difference.
App Pairs have not yet arrived on Pixel Fold, even in QPR1 Beta. Work is being done, but nothing launched yet.
All of this is so much harder than on a Surface Duo 2. 🤦
I'm gonna be honest here and say I like the '3 apps open at the same time' solution to OnePlus here is a little better executed over how Samsung does it.
I suspect Samsung is going to do something similar with Android 14 for the Z Fold5 🙂.
Great thing about this is samsung could update this via software update, assuming no patents of course :D fair game I think as samsung is what made foldables mainstream I think?
Just in case some Android developers are reading the comments... for the "back" gesture in multi windows apps... why not have two fingers gestures for back inside a window? I mean, two-fingers swipe left makes going back in that window?
I love OnePlus three side-by-side multi-tasking, but I don't like how "zoomed out" they look... compared to the "full half" from Samsung and Google... We already have slightly larger bezel on these devices, adding padding around multi-tasked windows feels too much for me...
It seems that oneplus knows that this aspect ratio is a fail, so they decited to implement multitasking while making aspect ratio more sense ( portrait). Plus on samsung you can send 3rd or 4th to deck on the left or right
Another slightly less extreme way to look at this would be that they have picked an aspect ratio that works well for one app and tried to find a software solution to make multitasking better.
@@scaryifliteral thats the point they implemented interesting windows management,but not a multitasking.
I have no idea how you're deciding what is and is not multitasking. If Open isn't multitasking, no device is.
Actually I wonder why one plus need to have 3rd app on seperate screen. I would buy it if they can squeeze all 3 apps into one screen like a tablet. Scroll down to 3rd app is almost same as switching apps on normal phone😅😂
I like Z FOLD AND PIXEL DOES IT BEST.
The OnePlus open in my opinion does better in some aspects especially in handling more than 3 apps. I love it better than what Samsung offers
oneplus open vs ipad mini 6 please
Then I'd have to buy an apple product though
Samsung has that too, they're just basically ripping off the samsung Settings go to advanced features turn the same thing on. You have the same thing on the top of the screen, you were able to do that with Samsung two wow how did you not no that all that was Already on your Samsung.
I see that you like Dragon Ball 😅
It's not multi-tasking if you're not seeing all apps at the same time. Oneplus open only works when does it the sameway samsung does
This is complete nonsense. You're literally making up an arbitrary definition of multitasking to suit your argument.
The NFL app is not so god damn annoying anymore with this space implementation. Same with Netflix. Some apps once you click on its automatic landscape mode.
Switch those apps to 4:3 and that fixes that. Not a perfect solution, but better than rotating.
Only in TH-camrs minds.
To make multi-tasking comparable to the Oneplus Fold, I swipe across the center using gestures on my Samsung Z Fold 4. "You can also swipe left or right across the hints to switch between apps."
I want the OF to enable pinned floating windows. I love whenever gesturing to split the screen, the OF opens to the homescreen!
They all look great to me but I'll stick with my Duo!