"Nice Guys Finish Last" | Feminist Unpacks "Crazy" Facts About Girls
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 มิ.ย. 2024
- Everyone knows that skeevy men on the internet know loads more about women than women do... we're all just lying about our "FEMALE NATURE".
Apparently the nice thing to do is stay with men out of pity. Now we know!
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Timecodes:
00:00 - Intro
02:42 - Girls get High from Talking
05:18 - Emotions vs Logic
11:16 - Girls' Secret Language
15:52 - Girls are Paradoxical
23:10 - Nice Never Works
26:43 - Personality vs Resources
29:50 - Female Nature Has No Heart
38:08 - Girls Just Want to have Fun
41:31 - Outro - บันเทิง
"girls have no heart, and they shouldn't ever leave nice guys because the pain will scar him for the rest of his life"
_5 minutes earlier_
"women operate on emotions; men operate on logic"
He does love a good paradox
I hate this. I had an ex ACTUALLY tell me I had no heart, when I stayed with his abusive ass for six years because I was trying to spare his feelings.
Also from these types of guys: "I want my ideal woman to be beautiful, but when a woman wears makeup, she is using false advertising."
As well as.....
"A woman is past her physical prime at age 30"
Then Suddenly:
"Women use their beauty as a weapon to get men because women offer sex and men offer resources. Women lie through their beauty"
@@blunt0sword0meals97 right?! I have heard this even said to me before. My response: you know I'm past 30 right?"
@@Tinuvielthefair Your mistake dont take abuse. I hear people talk about staying with abusive people for years. Their feelings dont deserve to spared. You are not noble. It is just plain wrong. It was a situation you created youtself. "But he did it" Leave. Same advice to men as for women. Get out. You cant change someone or at l3ast it is very unlikely. Especially if it last ysars. Then you are enabling and reinforcing bad behavior.
"Leaving" your abuser is often easier said than done, particularly when abusers single out women who are more delicate and breakable than they are so they can feel powerful and remain in control. It can also resort in getting the victim stalked, assaulted, and sometimes even killed.
Telling a victim of abuse to just "leave" or it's their fault for staying is pretty cold-blooded, particularly in cases where they have a lot to lose by going, and often at the cost of their own life.
I actually heard somebody describe this mindset quite perfectly: "They're treating women like NPCs whose sole quest line revolves around marrying you."
It's more true than most might know. Trying to boil real people down to the simplistic world of stats and affinity thresholds with set rewards.
To narcissists everyone is an NPC
@@TheChadUnKnown Well realistically everyone on this planet is an NPC, as an NPC is a non playable character, and nobody is playing as our character. Anything like a soul or brain is something that NPC's can have. The only way to prove this wrong is if this is all a game and someone is playing as you without you knowing (for most people that player is pretty trash at the game) but even games have NPC's, and unless you're playing something like an RPG, NPCs consist of most game populations. Therefore you and I would still most likely be an NPC. Most people don't have questlines as most people aren't very important. the "Main characters" would just be the people who are important because of what good they did.
@@whar2134 2nd person playthrough. Damn.But yeah. Everybody's an npc doing shit in a very cyclic manner with respect to time with deviations that are not really deviations but can be extrapolated with enough data. But since they are that way, we are too and that means we can predict where we end up but would never have means to avoid it even if we knew. Quite a vexing though if you ask me.
sad..and so aggrovating there is people actually wanting that stupidity...
they might aswell buy a sex bot with built in fleshlight..
"My girlfriend left me therefore all women have no heart"
Totally makes sense....
Well let's extrapolate that some. My girlfriend left me after 3 years of telling me how much I meant to her and how I was the only man for her. So when your partner can misrepresent her love for you for so long OR turn off her love for you on a dime then is there really a heart there? I don't think so.
@@natediaz1863 Lol you forgot to tell us the part about when she learned you're an azz hole and that's why she took back her comments of being devoted to you.
@@natediaz1863 Or maybe she left not cause she didn't love you but because she realized for when reason or another you weren't right for each other and she recognized that? Not all breakups are due to a lack of love honey. I loved my last partner, but I broke up with him because we weren't compatible and fought way to much. It was what was best for both of us.
Total rational and intellectual conclusion. See men are totally more rational than women. /sarc
Said 10 millions of men. Makes sense ;)
"Introverted people connect less often because both of them are too afraid to talk to each other." Never have I been so offended by something I 100% agree with.
Afraid and or not wanting to engage.
Why offended? That's who we are.
@@Rig0r_M0rtis It's just saying. One uses it when someone says something 100% right but you still don't like that it's correct.
@@strangelizard439 I know what it means. It's just overkill.
@@Rig0r_M0rtis it's a joke dude
Emma wants scientific sources
Clearly, this is just her being emotional and irrational
If real scientific sources showed some of it to be true, would Emma agree with it? Now that would be an interesting experiment.
@@riovox187 Please, show those sources to me, I'm interested in having a good laugh at you and your entire "philosophy".
The dude on the other hand bases his "facts" on hearsay or personal experience. So logical, much wow.
Yeah, like Vulcan women, lol!
@@riovox187 lmao well, yea, she probably would. But here's the thing, we don't actually need to entertain that idea because it's absolutely ludicrous to ask if she would accept evidence that simply doesn't exist. What you're doing is trying to redraw the target, almost like moving the goalposts, and derail into a hypothetical that has absolutely zero validity or basis in reality, all in order for you to attempt to impugn Emma's honesty and intellectual rigor.
Grow up, science doesn't agree with you, and it's up to you to change your position, not for us to argue for our position in your weird straw world where we're wrong lmfao
Stupid ass argument.
Yes, obviously men are more logical/less emotional than women. That's why I have to sugar coat things when I turn down a guy...because of his overwhelming pragmatism
I have emotional self-abuse problems, but even I would be able to take anybodys explanation to walking away.
I'd love it if I even got a no sometimes. Granted, I only do online since I can't handle offline until I've talked to them), it's just ghosting or dropping matches or whatever it is on the chosen platform. The rejection part is actually part of the reason I don't do well offline, I just don't try for fear of rejection because of how I am, and it's not something I can magically make go away either. After 10000+ ghostings and unanswered messages for often not self explanatory reasons (the latest time I think it was when she found out what I do for a living... So that sucks but I at least know why, but I mean, she could have told me instead of just poof removing match. She didn't have to sugar coat it, just say whatever about how she only dates guys at or above her level of work, which would still suck but it would have been nice of her. Is that what you mean by sugar coating?
We’re more logical because we’re better at math lol
@@unathorizedbargain8862 actually non true, women are just less encouraged to see being good at maths as a “feminine thing” and the belief that “women are worse at maths” quite literally makes women worse at it, because they then believe that too. See Shauns video on women’s chess (women perform worse against opponents if they know they’re male...and win more against them if they think they’re female)
@@kirstyc2176 I care about outcomes that’s a lie women are pushed to get into stem because there aren’t many
I could tell from the way that she flipped her hair at me that Emma is attracted to me, but I very logically was able to tell that she is biologically programmed to seek resources, so I avoided responding to her secretly coded messages. Always hold your frame, sigmas 😅
Emma: "These men just believe a random guy on the internet over their female friends"
Me: What female friends? I sincerely doubt they have any.
Female friends will look on any situation through the "is it good for women" glasses. Cant expect them to be a fair judge in their own case, now can I ?
@@michajastrzebski4383 what is that even supposed to mean? Lol
"female friends"
Translation: their mommy
They don't have any, these red pill dudes don't even believe in female friends
Wmn always give advice that isn't helpful
When we do make decisions we’re bossy and mean but when we don’t we’re indecisive and dumb, so what are we supposed to do? We literally can’t do anything.
You can NEVER win with incels!
My boyfriend and I just do rock, paper, scissors
Your interactions with some men do not cover all. If youre being honest with yourself and you truly feel your partner acts in ways that frustrate/ are disrespectful to you like this, leave them. And leave the anger and frustration you had with them behind before you meet someone thats worth your time before you waste theirs with this misunderstanding of reality.
@@whitney8678 Do you WANT to win with incels? O_o
What you said kind of implies you WANT the approval of incels. >_>
@@ILoveGrilledCheese A wild Norwegian appears!
Skjera bagera? :3
Masse bjørner i navnet ditt, lol. xD
You make a valid point though, bro! : /
“Only women get a natural high from talking”
_meanwhile_
Guy who has been talking about himself for 10 minutes: “Wow! I really like you! You’re such a good conversationalist”
Me, a service industry employee: “I’m literally just standing here”
I have heard terrifying stories about women who work in the service industry and creepy guys who can't understand when a woman is just doing her job!
🤣🤣🤣 too true, too true
I had an ex bf who just *loved* to hear himself talk....& thought he knew more on any given topic than whoever he was talking to (unfortunately, that person was usually me 😫😫)
I don't know, I weirdly had that situation inverted where I just popped into a sports bar for a couple beers and when the waitress asked me how I was, I just said I was savoring my beer.
She laughed as if I had made a particularly funny joke. Very confusing that. I'm not particularly sociable or outgoing, so I really was just there because I wanted a beer.
Am I to assume that works with other men or something? Is that the part where I'm supposed to go, "Wow, she really is into me and what I have to say?"
@@afqwa423 This can happen to anyone, the part that sucks is usually women aren't usually in a position to threaten or pressure you in the same way more men tend to be. Men can absolutely be harassed, stalked or creeped out by obsessive behavior from other people. It's okay to be uncomfortable or confused. I imagine she could be doing it to be flirty, or as some kind of misguided 'be friendly to patrons' suggestion from a boss... Women can do behaviors that society tends to imply only men do all the time. Because of stereotypes and preconcieved expectations, women may not be perceived the same way as a man doing the exact same behaviors.
@@aazhie Honestly, I think she was just fishing for tips, or at minimum, making herself seem agreeable. I forget that we have a customer service culture that incentivizes us to do that, but even so, it's very transparent to me.
My husband used to do the whole “where do you want to eat?” Thing when he already had a decision in mind. This behaviour is annoying, but it’s not “female” behaviour, it’s a certain social strategy that people of all genders sometimes use.
I like to ask people where they want to eat when I already have an idea for someplace because I don't like to disappoint anyone with my choices.
stepfather ALWAYS would do that "i want something good to eat" but then would complain NOMATTER WHAT was chosen, if then next time choose what he wanted hed be pissed it was IMPOSSIBLE to get him "something good to eat" "no i dont want fucking chips" if get chips, "i diddent want fucking cake, i wanted chips" if get cake
@@andrewjenkins9965 That's how I feel. I ask people where they want to eat because they usually don't want what I want, so they might as well pick. I'll just deal with whatever they say.
Doctors are specifically taught to avoid referring to patients as "males" and "females," because it is creepy and folks don't like it.
Citation: I'm an MD and was taught to avoid referring to patients as "males" and "females."
More details: "female hyena" is acceptable because we don't have a specific better alternative for it. But for female human, we have the word "woman." And that word is better, even in the context of medicine. Because referring to someone as a female (I suppose human is implied) is dehumanizing. Because that's how we talk about hyenas.
Ah but that assumes that all people with female anatomy are women, but trans and non-binary people exist. And for non-binary people in particular it's better to ask what sorts of terms they're comfortable with, because everyone is different. So therefore imo it's better to ask every person, since you can't make assumptions by looks alone.
Btw I'm not arguing that you should go around calling everyone males and females, because a lot of people do find it dehumanizing. I'm only stating that not everyone thinks that way, and some will be more upset by being called a man or woman without asking first.
i think its ok to like- misgender them for the first time meeting them because u forgor to ask first, but definitely respect the pronouns when they correct u @@Brynnthebookworm
@@your_favorite_jackalope_ba1325 Right, I wouldn't disagree with that necessarily. I just don't like the assumption that everyone is either a man or a woman, that's why I initially responded.
@Brynnthebookworm truee, seperation by gender is kinda stupid, like in general
@Brynnthebookworm idk if that was ur initial intent tho, my opinion is that the conscept of seperating everyone by sex is inherently dumb that would cause divide and cobfluct between the two,
Medically, seperating people by genetelia and sex is fine, but in society i think its dumb to seperate and then generalize them due to their sex
I dunno what's wrong with me and my girlfriend then. We are both women and can sit together in silence for hours. 🤣
You must be speaking through "secret codes and body language"😂
@@ChewonThat it's the psychic gay waves
@@gaybatgosqueak exactly, i can confirm this.
Uh oh. You probably need a man to come fix you.
Guess yall don't like getting high.
When he has no personality but you have to date him because he has 4 a levels
This made me cackle
@@EmmaThorneVideos why would you do this though.
@@EmmaThorneVideos I need more people to help me with my crippling loneliness and communicational issues.
@@icravedeath.1200 Talk to your family, don't talk about this kind of personal stuff to strangers on the internet.
@@ILoveGrilledCheese being nice to other people is just common human decency? lol pretty different than feeling entitled for someone to *date* you
I’ve gotten to the point where I dislike being called a “nice guy” and whenever someone calls me a nice guy I ask them as politely as possible to express themselves differently. I’ve heard so many “nice guy” stories from women friends and online that “nice guy” has become a synonym for creepy and manipulative.
Same for me, NiceGuys are the reason why I’m convinced at this point that it’s better to let my actions speak regarding my character and let others judge for themselves so I will never call myself “nice” as I might be associated with these guys by default
I'm an ah to gorls and it works well for me
"Nice guy" is misandry
It’s different when a woman genuinely tells you are. Like it’s always sad nice people, rich people, and so forth don’t need to tell people they are!
@@swizzamane8775 how?
When I first got married to my wife, 12 years ago, one of the things that would frustrate me was she would never want to make a decision at the grocery store or anywhere really. I would be like, "just get whatever you want or think is going to be good for the family. I trust your judgement. You make me feel like I'm an abusive husband when you turn and ask me if we should get something. Like you're asking for my permission." Anyhow, after much discussions, I discovered that my wife was always being belittled by her father, mother and sisters for every decision she would make. Constantly. Also, apparently even this one family she had gone to live with. After many years, I think she has gotten over much of that insecurity.
somehow these men have come to the conclusion that anger is not an emotion
Also, anyone who takes any classes on sales can tell you that 99% of decisions are made emotionally and any logic is just to justify the decision
“going with your gut” is a lauded leadership tactic for many.
These grifters start from personal trauma (relationship trauma). Since they are always encouraged to suppress the emotional stress, they instead try to rationalize the situation as 'rules' or external factors. They literally try to rationalize their anger towards all women instead of resolving the issue with the one that they had the issue with. It is only natural for someone to find that as a 'solution'. We need more emotional education and therapy for men.
they are, and for sure men tend to fell for anger more than women, it's very influences by testosterone. Almost all trans men claim to be more irritable and quick to anger when they take testosteron. But women for sure tend to fall more to sadness than men because of having more estrogen, women trans also claim to feel that they fall more to this emotional states. Both people are emotional but in different ways pressured by hormones. I'm not saying society doesn't pressure even more this characteristics, for sure it does. ANd this doesn't mean all men and women are like this, this are observations of the majority not every individual. But that doesn't disprove that there are inherant differences between the majority of men and women that aren't totally societal. Of course this are averages, you can find examples of men and women that don't follow this differences but they exist on a biological and statistical level. For examples women on average tend to have stronger connections between the two sides of the brain. They on average also tend to have smaller brains, doesn't mean they are dumber they are actual equal when it comes to intelligence they just have more density in their neuron composition. ALso women have a lower standard deviation when it comes to intelligence, meaning statistically there are more men at the end of each spectrum when it comes to intelligence. This are known real statistical differences, and many are purely biological like the size of your brain, it's not infleenced by society. But again bigger brain doesn't mean smarter, elephants have way bigger brains than humans but they aren't smarter.
@@koseorhun We need more emotional education and therapy across the board and to also start feeling comfortable as a society with the idea that men can be victims too, so that they don't continue the cycle of abuse out of denial. It is really easy for people in general in today's society to feel increasing loneliness, but even easier for many men as just by being male and appearing masculine, strangers are more likely to treat you as a potential danger than potential friend.
@@teemun3979 Oh absolutely. We first need to remove the stigma around therapy and emotional availability.
"When my girlfriend walked out on me, it was the most painful thing in my life. But I'm totally over it and not mad even though I bring it up hourly. I understand now that she's just a shark robot."
Typical rational male
Oh after you 5th or 6th life long relationship ends you learn to adjust. But yes, this hurts. Emma is a good person to be listening to on these things
Typical? Really? That's the sort of verbiage that the guy in the video was using. Very broad, stereotypical, incorrect generalizations. And you're generalizing that's the "typical" male? Get bent mate!
@@darkmagna9004 typical yt commenter
@@cairox1509 I think his point is that in the video she's talking about incels. So no, not every guy responds like this. Whats that you say, all men react the same to everything?
I often ask my cat what she wants to eat for dinner, but I never get a decicive answer. Must be because she's one of those gosh-darned females.
My sigma male cat does not operate on the emotions your cat is so clearly hung up on 😂 he is emotionally distant and sits on whatever keyboard he likes
If a “female” avoids situations where she “feels” uncomfortable… that seems pretty logical to me, lol
It’s something both sexes do it just that women have more situations like that than men.
If you avoid discomfort you won't grow. That's why whomen remain immature for their entire lives usually. And there is a difference between discomfort and dangerous.
@@natediaz1863 prove that women usually remain immature all their lives.
@@natediaz1863
Immature... HAHAH, so immaturity is also attributed to gender.... ONE look around social medias and YT etc, shows us all that anyone can be immature.
You just putting the blame on one gender just proves how immature, blind, and delusional you are.
Just like ALL the guys pretending this SB is real, along all the other BS you love to vomit non-stop.
@@FocusedFighter777 yes, men actually face the uncomfortable, many even work in absolute discomfort for 10 hours a day or more all their lives till they retire. Lol, I can tell you're not a man, just a little liberal boy.
The “women can talk for hours at a time” stereotype is such hilarious nonsense. There’s hundreds of thousands of hours of podcasting that prove men are just as capable of talking for hours about anything and nothing as well.
Oh, for sure.
Pretty much all research ever done either find men talk more than women, or that there is no difference.
Paid psyches and journalists and public speakers are the counter example of women talk to much.. Which has been studied for past 80 years 😂
@@Sp1n1985 It has been studied and proven wrong. I don't care about stupid journalists, show me a peer reviewed study. Astrology has been studied as long as ever yet It never was proven real. You just like pseudo science. That'a fine as long as you don't force it into others.
@@genderlessmonster4284 are you on about astrology or what I was mentioning which is women talk more?
I will never get over the "nice guy" BS because 100% of the time the people who think that women don't want nice guys are not nearly as nice as they think they are
They use the basic premise of being "nice" as an in to sleep with them. Basic human kindness is not all that is necessary to form a bond or attraction to someone. Plus, if you're being nice to get something out of someone, you're not nice.
I view "nice" is basically your being fake. Being "kind" is genuine.
@lizard You clearly never worked in the restaurant, hanger is real... this is the only situation I've seen people be an absolute tyrant one minute, eat and everything is all sweethearts and rainbows, the next.
My childhood friend happens to be on of those girls who say they want good men, but only go for bad boys. xD
I called her on it once, and she insisted that she preferred good men over bad boys... Idunno about you but i think ACTIONS speak louder than words, i met some of them. They were often, literal criminals, and when they weren't criminals, they were just a-holes (guys with terrible personalities). -_-'
I was worried for her for the longest time, but eventually i just got sick of her making such drama over every single break-up she had, which was once a month over the span of a 2 year period (one boyfriend every month, gets old after a while), until she finally realized she had a problem, and stayed single for a while to work on herself.
Kinda pogchamp that she realized she had a problem. :o
After a while we met again, and she FINALLY had what seemed like a decent guy with her... Only took 20+ criminal boyfriends, and 3 years of self-improvement, but she finally landed a decent guy. xD
No idea if they worked out though, haven't been in contact with her since. : /
They themselves aren’t “nice” but the guy who got rejected before them is
Speaking as a reformed nice guy, the nice guy paradox came out of middle and high school for me. Being a "nice guy" meant being a friend she could talk to, especially for a male perspective. When this comes around to relationships it mostly means being someone she can vent to. "The guy she chose over me is an asshole" grows out of that
Nice guys can get girls if they stopped obsessing over a particular girl and move on to next girl.
@@debanikgoswami4834 or just stop being obsessed with being in a relationship
If you were only her friend to try to get in her pants you weren't her friend.
Just a little comment I thought could clarify the whole “women dating jerks” idea. Having been in that mental place for a long time, I think it comes from the fact that you are hearing a friend complaining about her current boyfriend and you secretly having romantic interest in her tell yourself in your own head, “well I don’t have those character flaws, I would never do that to you, why aren’t you interested in me” And those thoughts can become resentful eventually.
But then again, you are so scared of sharing that interest that your feelings and thoughts never reach her. Thanks Emma for sharing your perspective, hearing your thoughts on these outdated views is really comforting and reassuring.
As an autistic girl, this kinda scares me (well, it scares me as a woman in general, but more so due to being neurodivergent/disabled) Because when I am direct and upfront (which is basically the ONLY way I communicate), I am either considered to be lying or that I am romantically/sexually interested in the person. I want people to be blunt (but nice and reassuring) with me, I don't read into what they say (I literally am often unable to do so) so when a man is friendly and |I like them, I want to be friends but that is what people like these read into as being interested in sex... ugh, it makes me skin crawl.
People are not used to someone being direct. Most are indirect because they fear rejection.
100%
I’m autistic too and I will never date a neurotypical bc of this, they will say everything EXCEPT WHAT THEY MEAN/WANT
@@femboyleftist8298 I am dating a NT person and they are awesome but in general, my relationships go so much better if the other person is on the spectrum, too.
I feel this
When he said about the “list of achievements” just had this image of guys running around with their CV trying to get a date as though it’s like getting a job.
@@infernalstryfe I disagree with the not evolving beyond. We are doing that, it's just some people are still dragging their feet.
Ikr it's almost as if affection was commoditized
Especially when he says "more qualified men, " lol!
Hmmm, so I shouldn't make hilarious stereotype dating business cards listing my credentials, such as never leaving the toilet seat up? But... but... the world needs more hilarious business cards!
@@sadanyagci see this seems highly appropriate in comparison, and yes more hilarious business cards are needed
Megamind was a really good example of the "Nice guy" syndrome. Great movie and the bad guy in that movie shows how scary nice guy syndrome works.
That's why nice guys finish last
I love how the whole bit of 'female nature has no heart' is the exact opposite of 'women are fueled by emotion, men by logic'
Lmao what do you think "have no heart" means? I can tell you that it doesn't mean "has no emotion." It means she doesn't really care about you and will drop you the second you don't meet her standards and she has someone else lined up. She will not care about any pain she causes or what you both have experienced together. She will immediately move on to the next 🐓 like you never happened. But that doesn't mean she has no emotions, in fact, that entire sequence is completely driven by her emotions... for someone else.
@@natediaz1863 ...are you okay?
@@tedweird weak deflection, dude lol. Just like a woman.
@@tedweird No he's not...
@@natediaz1863
To quote your EMOTIONAL response, ''LMAO''.
You've had a bad or several bad experiences: therefore all women are the same.
MAKES SENSE! So logical, so genuine, so true. *facepalm*
So many F A H0les like you. Date men then and stfu. There are so many women who also get hurt by men: wake up, cry baby.
That first one made me laugh. I’m such a introvert. Talking and having conversations literally gives me anxiety sometimes.
Same here!
Yep me too. I have to bring something to do in sociable situations to keep me calm. At uni I was the weird one crocheting at the pub 🤣
I HATE being stuck in conversation with strangers.
I can honestly say, as a woman, I have never had a long conversation with another woman and enjoyed it or got a 'high'
I'm an introverted Scorpio. I hate surface chitchat more than anyone I know. I want deep conversations with people I trust.
If you have to flaunt that you're a "Nice Guy" you're not really a nice guy.
Yeah. Literally Show don’t tell. I’ll notice if you’re a nice guy don’t worry.
Guys who call themselves "nice" are often just compliment bombing women and then get pissed about not getting laid for telling her she's pretty ten times
To be perfectly honest, I had "nice guy syndrome" in my teens, then I grew up. After I did that, I legitimately stopped understanding that mentality. I'm 5'4, average looking, and have some pretty bad Spina Bifida. I'm even in a wheelchair these days. I have almost never had problems finding relationships. Charisma goes A LOOOOONG way, that's pretty much all I've got! (Ask my SO :)
Got the oerson but can you keep the person.
@@Turnpost2552 Been together 4yrs so far!
Teens? Not Teens and twenties? Uh... y-yeah... me too...
@@andrewjenkins9965 dude some go through this longer than others. nothing wrong with that, i'm almost 23 and still recognize my mind falling into this pit from time to time. try and meet new people and periodically reflect on those interactions and know where you want to be personally & mentally. People pleasing is awful. I wish you the best and much success on your path through your brainjungle
@@Turnpost2552wtf was the point of this
I once asked a guy who talked just like this whether he sees his own mother that way. It totally stumped him. It just wouldn't compute. It was like he was talking about the color of oranges, and I said, "Yes, but what about Seattle? Would you rather live in Seattle or in San Diego?" He completely failed to see the point. It was so weird.
proves you how disconnected they are.
I am certain none of them ever think about 'hey, are there any women/girls like this in my life?', instead of just repeating the garbage other guys constantly repeat.
@@FocusedFighter777 so says the women regurgitating the fem-u-first talking points 😂😂 try being less of a misandrist and we can have civil conversations
What was his response?
Wait, could u be more specific? I often hear people say "would u talk that way to your mother?" and I say well, I'm not trying to boink my mother so no, but since I'm trying to boink the girl, it does seem more cut throat at times, also to point out mothers actually have a higher capacity to love their sons while the girls the sons date will only love based on what they can get out of him in that way it seems fair that he treats one different than the other based on how they treat him..
I love how you clarified the "females and men" thing, I did a biomed degree so I refer to all humans as "males and females" (and maybe even go more specific with genotypically or phenotypically male/female lol) but what makes the incel use of "females" so creepy is how they say "men" in the same sentence
Or even worse, "men" and "girls".
He really be saying women are more emotional then base his entire claim on how he feels women are like instead of actual facts
Boom
No there is empirical evidence of what he's saying than just emotional
@@Sp1n1985
Ok, if there is empirical evidence to support his claims, he hasn't presented it, and unless you plan on supplying the evidence, go cry to mommy.
@@burningmiseryluckily for you I can't post links. go to his video the top pinned comment sites every academic source for his claims
“I had a breakup and she wouldn’t explain why it happened.”
That’s called “she dumped you.”
They are too self-righteous and delicate to accept that.
@@raptorcrasherinc.9823 Well, the thing is women covertly break up with men months before they officially do it, so it catches a man off guard, also its not really self righteousness, anyone would want to know why they are not enough man or woman, its a huge shot to the ego and its just an attempt at closure really.
@@theironson1043 yeah but it would be better if we lived in a society where someone did not have to justify not liking someone. It would be nice to have more communication, but it should not be necessary.
@@raptorcrasherinc.9823 If you mean from the jump then yeh I agree with that too, but while ur already in a relationship nah.
@@theironson1043 I agree that we should have more communication, but if someone does not want to provide a reason for breaking up with someone, they should not have to. The matter could be private and none of the other person's business. Educating people on the nuances different relationships can have is crucial(in every relationship, not just romantic), but justifying why a relationship is ending should not be necessary.
When writing this I changed my mind on several of these matters. If there are legal proceedings of any kind, there might be the need to give justification, but a romantic relationship that is not bound by law does not follow that. Just let people end relationships that are not healthy for them.
I'm an old gen X guy and I think you're fantastic. You've become my go to for debunking the foolish and infuriating elements of the internet
Sad to see that guys who have never talked to girls are being exploited by these toxic poeple .
I think there’s a study that showed men are more likely to leave when their spouse become ill.
Ssooooo
I don’t live it tough and rough to one day care about 1 woman.. plenty of others in the sea.
@@blank2272 Then don't expect to ever have someone in the sea care about you...yet I'm sure you'd complain if women all took that attitude to men :P
@@kirstyc2176 That’s just you making a generalization of the typical man behavior you perceive to be. The answer to your question, I honestly don’t. I’ve cheated on women done it for excitement and drama. Every woman is the same, at the end of the stick what really matters is her looks. Also during that study women are heavily dependent on the man for the wealth and security. While man honestly has no benefit in waiting around. Like I said plenty of women in the sea.
@@blank2272 Now is your opportunity to step away from women for a while and see if your perception of women is preventing you from attracting quality ones. I've heard the same drivel about men from the typical man-hating feminist misandrist
@@tgosuke I understand what you mean. But that’s not how I see it. I don’t feel the care of emphatically motherly trait with parental care “attractive”. It confuses me and gets neglected. Nothing beautiful about it as I see seldom and self gain from the individual negotiations of meets. Just as much of beautiful women with intentions of financially/socially gain out of me. But they work as my intentions is meet. I can respect your decisions.
When I was ready to start dating after losing my wife. A friend told me "you need to give up all these geeky hobbies, get a better car and get some stylish clothes."
Well, I met my partner at Comic-Con in Liverpool. We started dating because we wanted to meet up and build some Lego together. I've still got the same car, she wears geeky t-shirts just like mine. He's 10 years older, not had a stable relationship, on his third car since then. He even asked me about going to Comic-con to meet girls. (He was kind of joking about that and didn't got to a con to creep on women.)
That's awesome, Congratulations dude!
@@ikilledthemoon Is this a satirical comment or something?
@@ikilledthemoon I would say no one has to be a rockstar in order for a woman to treat him like a person. He should try to set himself apart and differentiate himself somehow in order for a woman to treat him like a potential boyfriend/date/bedmate/etc.
that's absolutely lovely! there is really nothing better than a partner who understands and shares your interests
@@ikilledthemoon there just as many women as men in this world, so what you are saying is ridiculous, you definitely do not need to be a "rockstar" in order to attract women. While it is definitely easier for women to get male attention, it is often not the attention she is looking for. Furthermore as a man you definitely do not need to be attractive for a woman to like you, it is far more important that you take proper care of yourself and have confidence, it is generally men that care much more about appearance. If you want to find a girl, all you need to do is meet a bunch of people (not just women) and make new friends, and someday you might find a girl that really suits you, and untill then just enjoy the friends you make along the way.
It's an even money bet that his girlfriend didn't leave him because of things like "female nature" and "biological programming", but because he thinks and believes and talks about things like "female nature" and "biological programming"
The real disconnect is mistaking the nature of relationships. Many people think you need to "deserve" or "earn" a relationship, as if it is a video game achievement or transaction.
Of course, if you look at healthy relationships, they are formed and maintained day by day.
I kind of wish I was dating this guy so that I could dump him. But I suppose that’s just because I’m emotional and irrational. 😂
Your female mechanic says you have to scar him for life? (answer only in secret language 😉)
Uh, well kinda, sadly... Isn't it axiomatic that hurt people do most of the hurting of others, especially of this type, i.e. "all ____'s are the enemy". Classic protective maladaptation following trauma/abuse/etc. Sooo very human, yet... *sigh*... wth am I doing? I only scrolled to check if there was a little empathy/logic, coming from the good feminists in the crowd, before watching the vid, to rule out what I call the "mirror paradox". Two "sides" on an issue just mirroring eachother's hate/hurt back at eachother indefinitely, never seeing the other side, just their own demons magnified back at them... *sigh* :/
Not sure why I'm even still typing, I just... always hope to see a way I could help the folks in that kind of mutually demonizing feedback loop, and perhaps one of these times will be that time, based on this comment section... I guess thou I may be crazy enough to want to "help", I'm not foolish enough to try, lol.
...Unfortunately I'm (clearly) too compulsive to have not typed out all that though, so... apologies for the inconvenience. Genuinely.
Peace.
(TL;DR-- My bad, clicked the wrong vid... basically. Have a nice day and, peace.)
@@docingraham seems your comment is mostly a stream of conciousness so I won't judge it, but I find it a bit unclear what you're trying to say. Mostly I'd like to hear what you were hoping for in terms of empathy/logic in the comment section?
Seriously though, that would make it worse.
He is likely to stalk you afterward...!
The thing about this kind of videos is that when they talk about: "females" or "girls" they're talking ONLY about extremely attractive out-going women, who are in totally different social circles, and the "jerks" are actually...their friends? Who are like them, have things in common with them so they can have conversations together?? Mind-blowing, I know.
They don't understand that women have different personalities lmao, and they're basing their perception of women on a very small non-representative sample size (often the popular girls in school, or the women at bars/clubs, or dating apps, etc). They have such limited exposure to different types of people - not to mention that they genuinely do not even acknowledge women as "people" but rather some sort of mystical homogenous subspecies
Girls only go for the muscular and attractive guys, and never the nice guys.
- The guy complaining about attractive girls while thinking of being “nice” as his strongest personality trait
As a straight man, it really makes me sad that men like this just disguise all their insecurities as inherent problems within women.
How could you be so jaded and ignorant that you take a broadly negative trait and just apply to such a large group of people. I'm just going to keep being a loving and supportive man and keep fighting against these dolts. Keep up the fun videos and keep RIPPING THEM UP GIRL!
They're hurting everyone with their BS, not just women.
It never ends...
Stay true to yourself.
I'm gonna start using that when I get hit on. Sorry, dude, you're not qualified to date me, I need a list of accomplishments.
See, that's what the male-folk want. A clear list of criteria that can be achieved through half-assed certification classes that they can list on a resume. Is that too much to ask?
But what if I have no accomplishments? 😔
*sigh*
I'll just have to wait until after the test.
Hi, I'm Chad. What else you need to know???
I'm a frilly "girly girl" who is verging on obsessed with psychology and neurology and other highly logical topics. So, I must just be broken? Lol
Same here, I always have been a very feminine woman and I have also always found scientific subjects very interesting, particularly anatomy and physiology.
More than half the females in my graduating Law School class would qualify for the women pictured in that video. The Legal system in becoming predomently female. For those who don't realize it, in order to get into Law School, you have to achieve a certain score on the LSAT, which is a test designed to measure your logical and critical thinking. We should send those facts over to the incels and watch their brain acrobatics work their magic to keep projecting their hatred out.
If you are so logical, you should know that exceptions to a rules does not invalidate the rule itself.
@@giacomobandini969 A) It was (partially) a joke.
B) I'm not exactly an exception. Most of the women I know who are very intelligent and logical are very feminine. In fact, most of the women I know who aren't feminine tend to be the lest ambitious and least successful. I don't think it's because they're not feminine, mind you, I think it has more to do with being rebellious against traditional norms because they were made to believe they couldn't live up to them and wanted to make falling short feel like their own choice. Not that not being feminine is "falling short" or even having a lower paying job, as long as you're really happy with where you are in life. But they tend to be told they're falling short.
@@giacomobandini969 sorry for the long response, I just wanted to be clear that the "falling short" part was a general opinion not mine.
As a younger man the "nice guys finish last" narrative really hit home with me. It was comforting for me to shift the blame onto others (women just like jerks but I'm nice) and not onto myself. You've absolutely hit the nail on the head that women didn't go out with me for the one simple fact that:
A) I did not talk to them
B) If I did talk to them, it may have barely been a sentence or two.
C) It took until I could online date much later in life (which has it's own problems) to actually speak in a manner that women would be able to reasonably assume that I wanted to date them.
I'm happy to report that now I've been married for nearly 4 years to a wonderful partner, and that one absolutely must have clear and honest communication about your intentions and feelings with someone you want to be romantically involved with. If you are simply friendly to a woman but are secretly harboring romantic feelings, you cannot be mad at her that she treats you like a friend and not like a romantic interest
i love when i hear a guy broadly claim that women are "overly emotional". behind every rape, every physical & sexual assault, every homocide & mass shooting, every bar brawl & fist fight, every battered woman and abused child, every instance of bullying, teasing, & verbal abuse, every stadium fire, and every fist-sized hole in the wall is a failure to contain emotion.
So um idk if this is everyone else or just me, but I would rather date from my friend pool than some random stranger or acquaintance I barely know. For me, being in the friendzone is where you should want to be lol
But what if a stranger gives you a list of logical arguments and qualifications for dating you like they're filling out a resume for the position of partner? Cause apparently that's how men choose their relationships, with their big boy logic brains.
Exactly! I wanna know he's a good person and stuff and I don't trust easily
It's every sane empathic person male and female.
Male with no female friends will be correctly perceived as being dangerous, damaged, or not desirable. Men hanging out with women as equals having fun will be positively stared at and checked out intensely. Esp if it becomes obvious that they're exes and still friends.
That alone says the male isn't obsessive, blaming, violent, boring or sexist, which are a good set of tests to pass at a glance.
@@RoguSpanish well, yeah, if we're talking about red pill men, definitely. This list is: young, pretty, virgin, obedient, quiet. No need to get to know someone if you don't care for much but the state of their body. Oh, but women are superficial because some of them like tall men or men who earn more money than them. Women are superficial and emotional at the same time, men are capable of true deep feelings but also highly logical and never influenced by their feelings. Makes sense right?
@@crhu319 What if you are studying computer science 99% men. Have no sister and do not have hobbies or sports where women participate. He will be automatically classified as dangerous by you. I have female friends now and female coworkers. But there were long stretches of my life where I had almost no social contacts with women besides my mother and casheers/retail workers.
It was purely circumstantial and it changed later. I have never been shy.
If a man has no women friends it could be outside his control or he could be socially awkward creep. It is not strictly 100% one or the other.
''Women are illogical!''
*a minute later*
''She said she's not interested in me, I kept chasing her and she liked me even less! It's a paradox!''
You're 100% right about that 👌
Lol, I never thought of it this way...
Язък, че си българка.
@@Noqqin Ако ти си ни мерилото за читав българин, значи много сме го закъсали.
@@awesomepossum336 А ако ти си мерилото ни за читава българка, прадедите ни се преобръщат в гробовете си от срам и разочарование, че им се водиш потомка.
That's not what the video said
What I've found is some people are more emotional or more logical, regardless of gender. And that can change over time. I'm a 50 year old man and the older I get, the more I feel that emotion drives me and the more sensitive and empathetic I become.
Experience does that as well. This is why I think more attention should be paid to getting young men into nursing and occupations like that.
I enjoy watching these things with Emma because I also feel the need to stop and argue with my screen and Emma makes me feel less alone because we're doing it "together" lol
These guys are ridiculous and their propensity to try to set-up unwinnable conditions for women to perform makes me SO upset. So many men do this (yes... all people are capable of this, but it is most prevalent among male identities). Its a weird sense of entitlement and lack of emotional availability that allows them to imagine worlds where they deserve to set the standards (and typically even exclude themselves from the responsibility of meeting those very standards).
"for many thousands of years men have offered resources to women for their love"
Well, more accurately, they offered those resources to women's families for her love.
That’s history for you
uedhmo
Don't forget those who just went 'a viking'.
You misspelled "sex"
@@airacummins5076 isn't that what I said?
Okay, but if a woman went up to a man with a long list of her accomplishments, THAT WOULD BE WEIRD TOO. He would think that's weird!
I would feel sort of sad i did not have a ribbon to give her, a person male or female doing that sounds like they need validation and maybe a hug, from someone that is not slightly scared of them.
@@erikrungemadsen2081 I guess so but based on context, if someone does that to try and pick someone up, it's just creepy.
Yep no doubt about that.
@@JadeDragonRaze But i must also admit that most of my friendsships comes from random people walking up and and saying “we are friends now.” or the people that are left after the extroverts have teamed up at the Corporate soccer tournament.
So i get how hard it is to walk up to a stranger and start a conversation, so maybe my vote is more sad than creppy.
But If i was a woman and a big random dude did that to me at a bar i would be running for the hills i think.
@@erikrungemadsen2081 Yeah making friends is hard. But I usually wait until I have talked to someone a few times before being like "Ok we friends now?"
Decision making isn't always about social conditioning. Sometimes it's just indecision. My husband and I: "Want to order dinner?" "Yeah! What do you want?" "I don't know." "Me either." No dinner gets ordered.
It’s so telling that he repeatedly says things like “Most guys in high school, and even into their twenties and thirties, don’t know this.” All I’m hearing is “I never matured past high school and I assume no one else does either, because that would mean acknowledging that they’re better than me.”
For the first point: I wonder how many friends this man has.
I mean, I spent hours with my pals in the garage smoking and drinking whisky. Guys who think that the stereotype of chatty women and stoic men is true, may not have actually watched women spend time with each other. They’re just like the guys. Geez.
“Secret language” is just code for “having social skills”
Im sure this Video is for highschool boys with no social skills nor friendships
Its very predatory
Almost like my having girl just-friends growing up was akin to my having the NES Player's Guide before playing Metroid.
A lot of this "secret language" is tricks women have to use to work around some men's aggressiveness, disrespect towards women's opinions, refusal to hear what they're told, etc.
it infact is. EQ has 5 different skills that unlike IQ can be developed through experience, women are encouraged to use EQ skills to communicate with others, men are discouraged against it. So naturally women have higher EQ and men have lower EQ, and some women feel like they are more like men when they also havent got to use EQ in their life, so their EQ is also lower. I know this because I had to actively experience and skill up in the areas i suck at when it comes to EQ. For anyone wondering and wanting to learn - the 5 skills are: self understanding, understanding others, motivation, expressing yourself and empathy. People are higher at some and lower at others, a well rounded person is a person who is skilled on all 5. And to repeat again, anyone can go actively skill up in the areas they suck at and become a well rounded person
Probably, but advice for how to gain these skills can be needed for those with autism and still will most likely never be as good as "normal" people
"Women are naturally attracted to resources and want resources in exchange for marriage"
That's a weird way of saying "were traded for resources by their families like domestic slaves for thousands of years"
As a 36 year old who got married at 34 because he enjoyed his single life the lessons I learned that were most important are: don't put anyone a pedestal because we're all people and it comes off as desperate.
Confidence can be faked.
People are attractive once you get to know them so don't move too fast.
I'm an introvert and my wife has sick with me as I go blind.
one of chrion last videos explain how both sides are just begging the other side "please love me" i dont remember WHAT video it is tho.
Sigh. Women aren't "getting high from talking," it's the *emotional connection* we're enjoying. Men can (& should!) do that with each other too.
imagine thinking that having positive social interactions is exclusive to women
If all of the women he knows are getting high from talking, perhaps all of the women around him just like hotboxing.
Yeah i tried that, but guys on average just aren't comfortable with it, out of fear of being seen as gay or something.
And they DO get seen as gay, btw... I've been accused of being gay simply because i was too lazy to cut my hair and therefore had long hair. -_-'
I don't really care what people think of me, which is why i've experienced these things first hand, but not every guy is as laid back and comfortable being themselves as i am, you know? : /
And secondly, they're also afraid of said emotional connection being use against them. I've experienced just the worst forms of bullying that way, public shaming, betrayals, etc... Actually traumatic sht. :S
I've also been accused of being a satanist because i drew some text in a pointy font for a school project ONCE, that one actually made me laugh. xD
Anyways, guys can't really do that so easily, and it doesn't help that cruelty towards, or violence against men is so socially acceptable and normalized. : /
@@MyouKyuubi I've been assumed to be gay just because it's hard to stereotype me, so you really can't win on that if you dare to be yourself. As for talking, guys can talk and emotionally connect, if you provide the opportunity and are there for them. Way back when I worked part time in a grocery store, I had a rough male coworker that I barely knew. I could tell he was having a very hard time that day, so I gave him the opportunity to open up while we were working together. We emotionally talked and he opened up about his grandmother's death. We even hugged it out. People used to open up to me because I was a safe space, no matter their sex. As long as it's one-on-one conversation. Expectations always get complicated in groups.
@@sadanyagci Doesn't really matter if they're in private or not, guys really can't trust ANYONE... I don't blame them. : /
For instance, i couldn't even trust my only parent, my mother, with ANY private information...
When i was a wee lad, my mother was "worried" about me not being social enough, so, behind my back, she signed me up for a swimming club.
Back then i was hypersensitive, meaning if water touched my body, i got an erection. This was deeply embarrassing for me at the time, so i asked her if i could swap to ANY OTHER CLUB, just not the swimming club.
She's had a history of being untrustworthy before, which i why i didn't want to tell her up front, but i made it abundantly clear i was desperate to avoid the swimming club.
She kept telling me she couldn't cancel it or whatever, that i needed to give a good reason... She kept pushing and pushing, despite me literally crying in fear of going to the swimming club.
So, since she didn't give me any other choice, i called her out on her untrustworthy nature, then i told her that if i tell her this, she can't tell ANYONE ELSE about it, and that if she betrays me again, it's for the last time, that her role as my mother will become entirely superficial, that i will never confide in her ever again.
I made sure to be CRYSTAL CLEAR about this, and i made her promise not to tell anyone.
And then i told her, she giggled and said "Okay, yeah, that makes sense". So at least i didn't have to expose my erection to the other kids in the club and avoid that humiliation, right?
But hey, she felt proud of FORCING me to confide in her, and decided to betray my trust as SOON as she got home... She told her friend (This "friend" later molested me, btw, she is a sexual predator), whom then told her daughters, whom then spread this information to everyone they knew...
So the very next day, when i get to school, i was bullied and publicly humilated for the exact thing my mother promised not to tell anyone. : /
THIS is what men are afraid of... having their emotional connections used against them, being betrayed, abused, etc...
Yes i was abused as a child... No i never received help, because any time i told guidance councillors, child therapists and the like, they always thought i was lying because it "sounds too terrible to be true".
And crying about it didn't work, because i was just told by literally everyone around me that i need to take it like a man, or stop behaving like a girl... etc... Abuse against men is normalized, it's socially acceptable. : /
Yes, my current relationship with my mother is entirely superficial, and my mother complains endlessly about it.
I'm a bit of an agoraphobe, and to deal with the phobia, the anxiety the stress, i've developed apathy... Which is why i'm not scared of being myself.
I also have a deeper understanding of m*nt*l *lln*ss (TH-cam censors/removed comments containing certain triggerwords/triggerphrases), and i can spot bllsht from a mile away.
Trauma comes with some advantages. :P
Anyways, men are not in a position to feel safe, emotionally... That's why it's so hard for them.
(I'll post a duplicate of this to your channel discussions, just in case youtube censor bots remove my comment... You never know when you're unwittingly triggered the youtube bots. : /)
“Secret language...” that’s horribly close to no means yes...
In the situations where girls actually DO the whole "no means yes" runaround, it's to everyone's benefit to just take no for a no anyway. A person like that will be endlessly toxic in a relationship. xD
@@MyouKyuubi verified facts 💯
Exactly> I was thinking, he's telling men: "Don't listen to what she _says_ , instead, interpret it like *this* and then act according to your interpretation."
Horribly close to no means yes? No. And I mean No.
That's 100% true.
I know my experiences as an enby with mostly sapphic relationships count little.
However, when I direct food decision to others, it's because my brain usually isn't working atm.
And it's easier to say no to a particular choice than to come up with a new one.
When the part got to emotion vs. Logic my mind wanted to write an essay about cognitive functions or mbti personality types. I hate it when people excuse some behavior as "he's a man"
I would also like to point out that if I told him I date a chubby IT guy who plays pool he would be like well you're fat so you only went after men you could get because you aren't attractive. Because this standard only works for "hot females."
Imagine thinking you're applying for a job (husband/father) instead of making a connection with another human
I'm no good at either of them.
You're amazing, I'm glad I discovered this channel. Keep on keepin' on.
Theres a special place in my heart for the moment in which you defend the name of sharks. "Go back to hating women and leave the sharks alone" I love you
Men: Females are so emotional omg.
Also men: *is mad at everything all the time*
"men will literally start a war before going to therapy"
@@tiana5395 Since nearly 80% of suicides and 4/5 people who are homeless are men... I wouldn't say war's their default choice.
You're making generalisations... how are you different from the man in the video?
@@cityman2312 It’s legit a response to the stereotype addressed in the video. Where women are so emotional, and yet men do get mad a lot, because honestly people get emotional a lot. You know since we all experience emotions all the time, like who would have thought, apparently not these people. But to people like this when men get mad it isn’t being emotional, they consider it justifiable and passionate. So you got to point out the hypocrisy, especially in a negative way. To point out that ya men can be just as emotional and also in a negative way as well. That’s legit all the comment is doing.
Also saying it in response to something to point out the hypocrisy is vastly different than using it to say that makes them inferior, which a lot of people say about women. Especially when it does without provocation and when that type of thinking has led to women not being taken serious in the workplace and etc.
Just look at Trump, he's the most emotionally erratic person I have ever laid eyes upon.
I wonder if these guys have a different definition of "nice" the way they talk about it, it's like a performance they have to put on, not just how they naturally treat people
Yeah that's why they always say "I TRY to ACT nice". It's an act and they have to try really hard to keep up that front.
think you hit the nail on the head
I think the premise of nice guys is the guy is kind to a female friend of his and has with time developed feelings with her. He doesn’t want to ruin the friendship so he keeps it platonic. But then comes along an asshole kind of guy and she falls head over heels with him. That’s what they mean by nice guys finish last
@@TheUnique69able that's what they say it is about, but it isn't. If the "nice guy" would deliberately not make a move to not ruin the friendship, why would he be salty about the woman dating someone else? In this case he would have chosen the friendship over the prospect of dating her. If he thinks it's unfair that the woman isn't dating him, then he has not decided that the friendship is more important but instead is in this friendship with the goal of turning it into a relationship. No matter how you try to twist it, the "nice guys" are not the victims here.
@@pnx1412 instead of replying to have the last word just think about what I said. It's not about victims, that's not what they're saying. It's about how weird it is the particular guy who had no clue he would like the girl romantically but the girl doesn't develop those feelings. He rationalises that maybe she just seems him as a friend because he's just being nice maintains that frame.
But when another guy comes along and not only gets away with bad behaviour, the girl also encourages it with her infatuation. Men in general don't like the idea of some other man being better than them, so when the girl chooses the bad boy, the friend rationalises this as his own behaviour was something that turned the woman off so to speak. Not taking wanting to acknowledge that the other guy is more attractive to the girl than himself in some way shape or form.
Fellas, don't be nice guys. Be kind guys
Yes there's a difference
I've noticed that the "Nice Guy" is always the needy guy who wants a woman who isn't attracted to him, while the "Bad Guy" is whoever is with her.
I've seen guys completely trash a woman's boyfriend or husband for everything under the sun, justified or not, and somehow overlook all the good he does. THAT'S's irrational.
The fact is: women, just like men, are attracted to people they're attracted to. If there was an actual formula to attraction we would have figured it out and used it millennia ago.
Women are all emotion, but have no heart. What? This guy is disturbing. On many levels. The fact that there are men out there that view us this way is seriously frightening.
Clearly you only think that because you're being a highly emotional, emotionless, heartless, logical, thoughtless, thoughtful, illogical, female that is likely her own grandpa. That's why we needed a female Doctor on Doctor Who. Someone needs to save the time-space continuum from all the paradoxes.
It's not frightening at all you just don't understand men very well.
@@anothercat1300 What specifically is being misunderstood about men?
@@sadanyagci That's a good question. Look at family court statistics and who the main initiator of divorce is in the USA. Then look at depression and suicide statistics. Then while all that data is in front of you keep asking yourself the same question.
Men are refusing to get into relationships en mass across the Western world. So much so their governments are willing to pay them money to have children... Men still refuse.
So whatever is being misunderstood about men is risking the collapse of society. So keep asking yourself what's not being understood about men? Are they simply defective women who are too aggressive and oppressive towards women? Or is there something more rational that could explain it?
@@anothercat1300 Society isn't collapsing. That's not how societies work. That's also not how causative factors are determined. You might want to take some college courses in research and statistics.
"Girls can talk to each other for hours because they get a natural high out of it."
Me, an introvert: Oh, really?
Edit: for those of you thinking that just because there are women who don't enjoy overly-long conversations doesn't mean there aren't women who do enjoy that, you're absolutely right. That's not the point, though: one of the many problems of this guy's video is that he talks about us as if we were a monolith, but we're not. Same problem with saying "the exception doesn't disprove the rule." This implies that introverted women are rare cases, but we're not, there are plenty of us out there.
No one is interesting enough to talk for hours with. I am an extrovert but even to me that shit sounds exhausting.
Me, a rather straight man: So they are like me?
The natural high that girls get when talking: "hi!"
if this man is correct, me and so many of my female friends, were infact misgendered.
“Only girls get a natural high from talking”
Me, who personally knows like 7 men right of the bat who can monologue for hours: So...what’s in it for them then?
I hate the term "value" in this context also. While having a conversation with a fellow employee, about not being faithful in a relationship, he kept using the term "high value male". Meaning, the man is highly sought after. Basically giving him an excuse to screw around because he is a "high value male." I said, "That's fine. Just don't make commitments you won't keep. If you perceive yourself valuable enough to spread it around, then don't continue to commit to one woman and break their heart."
"you should do it for you" - exactly.
It's embarrassing to admit, but as a teen in the 90's, I actually had some of these toxic ideas. I'm glad that the net then was a shadow of what it is now, because I don't know how I would have grown as a person if I fell into chat groups with this mob.
But you're entirely right - I was unhappy (and desperate) as a youth and it only got worse the more I tried to be something for other people (both for friendship and intimate relationships).
It was really only in my 30's that I shed all that and now I really like me. I wish I didn't waste my 20s drunk and unhappy and just played weird instruments, LARPed and just dived right into my inner geek. In doing that, I found my peeps and really love my life - married to my best friend, with two mini humans running around as well.
The "sorry I got a boyfriend" is code for she probably doesn't have a boyfriend. This scares me. It's used in a situation where you don't really know the guy and want to shut down the conversation. But I've seen guys who demand proof and get violent. Should videos these guys make come with a disclaimer that women are not objects for you to attack and kill?
I just had a conversation where I was told that my ability to walk safely at night had more to do with my beliefs. When I made it clear it was because I have a vagina, he got really uncomfortable and left.
Well he was right it is more about your beliefs. Men are more likely to be attacked and killed than women by far, even when considering rape if that's your fear. Those are just the statistical facts. And you can objectively protect yourself just as well if you live in a place like America and buy a gun. So having more fear because you have a vagina, is like being more afraid in a plane than a car, you are statistically less likely to be attacked at night. Those are just the numbers and they aren't a small gap.
Also no, no you don't need to make a video about that just like guys don't need to make a video telling women not to rape teenagers in highschool. It's not the average man, the average man does not view women like that. The men that do, don't give a shit, so it'd be a pointless endeavor no matter what.
I once took to wearing a wedding ring when I was single just to avoid creeps!
@@theworstcatholic7247 Although I can't say anything about the statistics as you haven't provided sources (not a dig at you; I'm not even providing a source other than my experience), I can tell you that almost every woman has been sexually harassed or assaulted. We're also taught to avoid situations that could get us hurt and that we need to care for men's feelings or it's our fault for being murdered, raped, harassed, etc. If your statistics are correct (which they could be), it might be due to war (as men are historically soldiers), or that we have to go out of our way to protect ourselves. Also, in America (where I live), men can *also* have guns. Plus, when women try to go to places that tend to have more men (like shooting ranges), they tend to be chased away.
Statistics are also not a perfect science. There are a ton of factors to take into account, such as environmental variables and the biases of the scientists. It's safe to keep this in mind before coming to a conclusion.
I can't remember who said this but I think it puts the whole issue into perspective:
"Not all men, but almost all women."
Source: My experience as a woman who knows many women.
@@shinerstheseagull why do we never cut to the heart of the problem, and instead just point and shout.
@@theworstcatholic7247 "Overall, more men are murdered: 485 in 2017 versus 173 women, per Statistics Canada. But tease apart the data, says Nazanin Moghadami, a feminist and registered clinical counsellor in Vancouver, and you’ll see that men are mostly killed in gang-related violence or random crime, while women are killed largely by their intimate partners."
"The way men are murdered almost always has “nothing to do with [intimate] relationships and power-based crime,” Moghadami says, which is why violence against women warrants a national action plan as opposed to an action plan that doesn’t distinguish between genders."
This being said who kills more men? Men! Who kills more women? Men!
About sexual violence and crime (USA , raiin statistics):
82% of all juvenile victims are female. 90% of adult rape victims are female.6
Females ages 16-19 are 4 times more likely than the general population to be victims of rape, attempted rape, or sexual assault.3
Women ages 18-24 who are college students are 3 times more likely than women in general to experience sexual violence. Females of the same age who are not enrolled in college are 4 times more likely.7
Source(s): dude just trust me
Also: man discovers flirting, thinks it's witchcraft
Dude could learn a thing or two from PragerU. "Sources? I have sources, right here! (points to unlabeled chart that means nothing)" I mean come on, this is grifting 101, get it together lazy propaganda merchant!
Only when it works, and we become surprised that it does.
Honestly I'd be way more into flirting if it actually was witchcraft. Where my homies in the coven at?
The kid doesn't have sources either, keeps saying no to everything in the video
@@SuperIvysaur What kid?
"Women want resources" EVERYONE DOES, THATS CALLED SURVIVAL
When I was younger I believed a little bit of that, because people around me talked like him. Some girls (I think as a teen you can still be seen as a girl) dirictly told me I was to nice. I was creepy because I didn´t know how to behave different. I have autism and always had problems making friends. So finding a girlfriend was so much harder. I wasn´t able to tell beeing nice from beeing attracted to you apart. I feel sorry for people who still believe in this toxic stuff and the woman who happen to meet guys like that.
What is especially funny to me about "women leave men at their darkest hour, it's just their programing" is that men are way more likely to leave their partner if their partner gets cancer or another long term as illness requiring long term care... interesting
I wouldn't (even though I've had tons of fucking terrible incidents with women).
@@icravedeath.1200 that’s so good to hear (that you wouldn’t leave a sick woman based in a generalization about how other women have wronged you).
@@Lauren-xw8bo like yeah, if I've spent decades of my life with them, might as well see them out, emotional pain be damned.
@@icravedeath.1200 loyalty is a lost art. To connect with someone beyond a transactional way and not just think of them as a means to an end is to be commended. Sounds like you would truly care for and empathize with someone in their final days and not just subscribe to the sunk cost fallacy.
@@icravedeath.1200 Just how old are you if you have spent decades of life with all these terrible women? Maybe put the pity cards away and take ownership of your decisions.
If you have stayed with people you didn’t like, you have not only wasted your time but also theirs. It’s patronising and, as you must eventually have left them to have the stellar record you claim, ultimately pointless.
Maybe work out what you want, and then live according to that. If you find someone who adds to that equation; stay with them. If you find people who keep detracting from your happiness then you should politely end the relationship, and decide to be happily alone or keep looking.
Don’t try to be something you think someone else wants, just be yourself. And if you find that nobody wants to stay with you, then ask yourself why and maybe be a better person. If people keep hurting you then that’s an individual judgement of their shittiness, and they should be better humans, but you don’t have to wait around for that to happen.
When they say "female" instead of women, it gives me a strong feeling that they are talking about a different specie. And honestly, judging by how well they seem to understand what they are talking about, for them it could totally be a different, exotic, barely known specie.
It is a giant red flag to me. And I am a heterosexual man. Can't imagine what this must feel like to a woman being spoken about like that
The use of female vs women/woman is, for me, context. For example saying female doctor or other profession is ok but when talking about a person(s) I use woman or women.
Specie is not the singular form of species. Species is singular and plural. A specie is a type of money
@@Faint366 Fascinating. Apparently, English is evolving, because I'm pretty sure I've heard English speakers saying "specie" for as a singular form of "species". Or maybe the s is silent when it's singular?
@@bobiboulon I’ve only ever heard Christian creationists say it and they were wrong too. In fact it was one of Emma’s videos when it happened and she looked it up. Might have even been Matt Powell
The line about women “wanting resources” is the flip side of non-sense advice women get. “If you have to work, don’t make more money than your man because his nature is to be the provider. You don’t want to undermine him.”
Maybe the best ever quote on this "If you expect something in return for being a nice guy... you're not a nice guy"
Real nice guys are nice to everybody .
This gets even darker when you think that this is going to be watched mainly by preteen and teen boys who have so little context for this
Better than feminists getting to them and teaching them that they aren't human.
@@bloodfiredrake7259
Thnx for showing everyone you're an incel. Usually it takes 2 sentences, but you managed it in 1. Congratz on being emotionally crippled and never finding true happiness.
That legitimately seems to be the target audience, teenage boys. At one point he implied that you're "a bit older" if you're like 20-25 so clearly he's mainly aiming this at, like, insecure high schoolers
A lot of how incel dudes talk about women, I find the quickest way to point out the gaping flaws in the arguments is replace "get a woman" with "get a friend". Like do we talk about friendships in terms of "qualifications"? Does buying stuff for a person mean you're now "owed" the title of being their best friend? Etcetera etcetera...
They never said that you owed a relationship.
@@darklazerx7913 Who is "they"? Also, you damn well realize that a lot of incels feel that they are owed romantic relationships. It's why the OP of this comment replaces "get a woman (or gf)" with "get a friend". And a lot of incel's expectations start to fall apart because it finally looks like they want someone to control instead of an equal partner that actually likes them.
In my city there was a rape trial where the man's defence was that a woman made eye contact with him on the train. This meant (in his mind) that she was deeply interested in him sexually, so he got off at her stop, followed her away from the station and assaulted her, then acted confused when she beat him off. It was all her idea!! He said it happened all the time, but women were so contradictory they wouldn''t acknowledge their responsibility in leading him on.
As a Man/Guy, FarFromAverage's video has taught me many things, very informative!
It's taught me that that guy is an idiot and shouldn't be given an audience. It's taught me that men don't have any feeling and are completely logic based. I now know I'm a computer, yay
There's SO many issues in these videos, too many to cover. Pretty much all his points are actually social constructs, none of them are gender based at all, even slightly.
The "Female nature has no heart" part annoyed me the most (in a similar way that it annoyed Emma), animals don't just "act on instinct", they're not trees. That's century's old thinking. If you're wounded and meet a (big) cat in the 'wild', it may try to eat you. You do that with your cat at home, it'll have sympathy and support (this is true even for the big cats, which are really just large house-cats...). [Trade this animal with almost any group/pack animal]
Also, humans are just animals...
As a rule I find that the more people profess themselves ‘rational’ the more they are /controlled/ by their emotions. Because they do not understand them and rationalize a lot in order to feel like they are driven by logic
Oh, this is a very good point!
I knew a guy who tried to tell me why "logically" I had to date him...yeah.
As a neuro-divergent guy, I can get a little "high" from conversations just because social interactions put me in overdrive. Totally depends on the person and conversation, but my conclusion is that personality type/temperament has a lot more to do with how one reacts socially than gender.
Oh I'm absolutely the same way dude. I get so fucking happy when I meet and connect with good people.
Yes but there are differences in people's brains on average based on gender. Doesn't mean there are no exception, doesn't mean eveironmental pressures don't play a role and it doesn't mean that those differences dictate how people act in every situation, but for sure there are biological differences and pretending they don't exist at all is just putting the head in the sand. But most of the things said in the video are just dumb and untrue.
LOL that's what I was thinking, too. "THIS WOMZ IS GETTING HIGH OFF OF TALKING BECAUSE [weird biological essentialism]", no it's just the autism.
I have been misconstrued as hitting on people because i always love talking with friends and new interesting people! I'm pretty asexual though so it's really confusing for everyone 😂
I’m also neurodivergent and I get the exact same feeling, but I never considered that it was related
My brother was asked by my Nephew how he was able to stay in control of his emotions once. He said, bluntly (and sadly), "One day in elementary school, I was told by my dad not to show my emotion."
He explained that having parents tell their young boys this, causes a permanent effect for many. My brother is a level headed guy and pretty liberal. But doesn't deny the only reason he seems 'logical' rather then 'emotional' was due to being imprinted with the idea that he wasn't 'supposed' to display emotion.
Also... My husband got yelled at because he was polite to his female co-workers. When they found out he was married they said he was cheating on me because he was being... polite to them. (We both worked at the same place -_- I saw his behavior first hand.) So another issue is guys being nice only if they are interested in a women is causing a backlash of women associating being nice/polite is flirting.
You definitely made his content much more palatable. Thank you for your sacrifice
The idea that women leave when things get tough seriously pisses me off. My amazingly wonderful and nice boyfriend died in 2019. He was very sick for a long time and as he started to rapidly decline, he gave me an out. I have a chronic illness and he was concerned that helping to care for him and being with him as he died would cost me my health, so he told me that if I wanted to walk away, he would understand. If women were truly the way this guy thinks we are, I would have left, but I didn't because this man was the love of my life and I would have rather cut off my own arm than walk away from my Beloved as he died. Was it easy? Absolutely not! Am I grateful that I was strong enough to be at his side as he died? Yes, and I have no regrets. My Beloved was the nicest, most kind man I've ever known and he would have been just as upset as we are about this incel's "lessons" about women and our "nature".
u are just a one person, statistics show that women innitiate majority of divorces, its just a fact
It occurred to me that, although he insisted men are more logical, none of his assertions are in fact logical. Then I had to get a coffee because....well....coffee. I now have to prune some plants but I'll have to avoid the female ones because the sight of me in gloves and a bush murdering tool might make them 'like' me.
I actually do know where the "women date assholes and not 'nice guys'" comes from.
It's actually an interesting quirk of general Psychology. Women do indeed seek out nice men, but unfortunately, narcissistic people (both male and female) have a superficial charm that will make them seem pleasant during the love bombing phase of the relationship. Later, the partner's true colors surface, and you find out that deep down they were kind of rotten (to varying degrees depending on the severity of the narcissism).
As for why this is more commonly something you see in men, that goes back to social conditioning. It's more socially acceptable for men to be machiavellian and otherwise manipulative (as people often *mistake* this trait for ambition). Women still do it, and I've even had the reverse pleasure of dating one such woman (she'd accuse any other woman I spent time with of being "bitchy" or "kind of a sk***" etc. It's coming from a place of narcissistic injury). But rest assured, the issue is something that plagues men and women's psychology, and it's really more of a result of not being able to identify 'red flags' early in the relationship (like the aformentioned love bombing).
lol literally asked myself out loud during this video "why am I not subscribed to this channel?", although the Online Dating Disasters video killed me as well
Emma: Making serious points against this incel cringefest
Me: Is that a teeny rose in her bottle? Thats adorable
I didn't notice that!! That's so cute!
OH MY GOD THANK YOU. Same.
I thought it was a straw at first until she started waving it around
I used to suffer from the "nice guy" syndrome. Turns out I was actually just a bit of a cock womble and too arrogant to acknowledge that.
Well that's awesome you were able to break that cycle, I hope you're doing better
@@JacobSca I'm still a bit of a prick but I mostly keep it to myself now.
Probably not so much of you being an inherent prick so much as society or family didn't socialize you correctly for the expectations given and then expected you to behave in a way you weren't programmed to. Happens to both sexes and loads of other men all the time.
The first step is admitting you have a problem
Well, you've become a good subservient little puppy haven't you! So cute! Submit to femthority!
Raising a daughter who I adore, this kind of guy is scaring me.