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watson and creek did actually decript the molecular structure of DNA which was a world changing thing and not espeically brilliant but nobel winning... Frankling did very hard work that imaged a helix structure, which was also nobel winning, and the should have won it all three. The nobel kindof sucks because it is pop-science and doesn't look at a problem as a complex teamwork but as the scientist that did the final leap.
Franklin's assistant very dishonestly defended undermining her. Probably good to get a job with Watson & Crick, or at least recognition. Science history doesn't look kindly upon such absconders.
Seven Nobel Prizes were awarded for work directly relating to S N Bose's research and results. Franklin, a woman, and Bose, an Indian, were likely devalued for not being white, European men. Controversial, but true considering that sexism and racism were the "norm" during most of the 20th century. Thankfully time and common sense have improved the standing and lot of women and people of colour. Truly smart folk operating at the levels of these two are rare. I'm grateful that the doors of opportunity are open to more, now.
This situation is nothing but a bunch of men trying to bring down an educated women, when she was about to get herself proved that she too (in general.. the women) had the capabilities and talent.❤as similar as men. Btw, I'm not trying to be misandry or smthng like that..... I'm just feeling bad that her efforts and hard work was never rewarded 😢
The big difference between men and women is that when it comes to acts of over all geniuses men do not need women to accomplish amazing inventions discoveries cures for diseases etc women could never have built the modern world just by themselves but men can and have done it all and have never needed the help of women and this modern feminist push for women equal rights is actually damaging to society women have a nauseating habit of vastly over rating themselves and let me give you just one example of how ruinous feminist equality is Birmingham city council has become bankrupt because of the deluded hostile rampant anti male doctrine of feminism i should know i was the union boss of the binmen who were the sacrificial lambs slaughtered on the altar of feminism that has resulted in bankruptcy and finally all women is go on about is being the equals of men yet men aspire to up there with the gods we split the atom put a man on the moon Beethoven and so much else that has benefited everyone on this planet yet we are hated and despised for doing these things resentful hateful jealousy that what lies at the heart of these sentiments the fact is she had ample opportunity to recognize what Crick and Watson saw and she failed! i often wonder why one of the greatest geniuses that ever lived never bothered with women but you will have to guess that one! ha ha
Thanks for putting light to this. Rosalind deserves more respect. There are many scientists or researchers whose contributions have been ignored or forgotten.
Another great mind who wasn't bestowed upon by the Nobel prize was Narinder Kapany. An Indian physicist who did groundbreaking work in the field of fiber optics, essentially making the internet possible. As someone who adores unsung geniuses, I would request you to make a video on him
I don't believe we Brits have fully recognised her achievement. But the USA has the Rosalind Franklin University of Medicine and Science, in North Chicago, IL. With a larger than life bronze of her.
Its so sad but this was a general trend. This happened to most women scientists because the society didn’t want educated women contributing to science which was primarily seen as fit only for men. Just imagine how much the society would have been advanced if the other half(women) was allowed education. After 1600s let's say 1-10% women were allowed in science but imagine if from 1000 AD women were encouraged to study. The thing that happened with Rosalind Franklin also happened with the Great Marie Curie. However, Curie did see herself getting recongonised within her lifetime.
A much better choice for an overlooked scientist than Franklin! The problem there, as in many other cases, is that there were more than 3 people who each contributed something unique and indispensable to the discovery. She was just one of them. She was not the only one who didn't get a Nobel Prize for that discovery. The others were men.
Controversy is mostly about her work being shared without her consent as Watson/Crick were unlikely to discover the structure without Photo 51. Watson himself admitted to it in his book. Her research partner and other university staff unfortunately lacked the foresight to keep it from competitors by either bragging about it or trying to perhaps sabotage her.
@@jonathanvillegas7570But Franklin did NOT take photo 51. Raymond Gosling did. Why so much talk about Franklin not getting the Noble Prize and nothing about Gosling not getting it?
@@peterfireflylund I'm not sure about his myth but are you denying that when Hahn and Strassmann conducted experiments that led to the discovery of nuclear fission, it was Meitner who made sense of their results. She realized that the nucleus had split. All that was overshadowed.
Rosalind Frenklin died before Watson & Crick won the Nobel Prize. She died before the work she, Watson, and Crick won the latter two the Nobel Prize The Nobel committee must awrd the prize to a living person or persons. The Nobel Peace Prize committee awards Peace Prizes to organisations, tho' its founding provisions prescribe a person
In almost every Nobel prize in any scientific field, there is someone who could, or should, have been included because their work was a pivotal influence or source. Why pretend this is some specific, big offense? Oh, because it's a WOMAN, and ¡¡¡Patriarchy™!!! /snore
Why should brilliant minded women be denied their brilliance and men lauded for theirs. This male orientated mindset is counter productive to the advancement of our society.
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Every time I hear women say “I was born in the wrong era,”suggesting they wish they were born in past times…I remind them of things just like this. How many women have had their hard work and authentically earned discoveries stolen by men who had no respect or regard for their worth or contribution to whatever field they were working in.
While I admit these things can happen in science and most certainly do, videos like these detract us from the science itself. It doesn't matter who finds something. It's the something that matters.
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Heard about that Gal that showed Crick and Watson a thing or two about chemistry. Imagine that, a chemist working with a physics? Like Seaborg or someone? A lot of toe tapping, in a lot of ways, a lot of the time.
It's not even that, though. I'm sure worse things happen to women in science all the time. Academia has scummy exploitative practices throughout, and this is what you she came up with?
Not Cool.... I can relate though it's really a blessing when one does that to another... God unveils truth! Justice is being served now! You guys are awesome for sharing this story! Thank you!
Yes, I believe Rosalind Franklin needs to be given the Nobel Prize posthumously. It is a horrifying story of injustice and a lack of grace by Crick and Watson.
The electron is a high-amplitude bipolar stationary wave, i.e. consisting of two diametrically opposite half-waves, which rotates (propagates) with the speed C/137 (m/s), on the circle of the electron's radius. The high-amplitude bipolar wave is born from the constructive interference of the 9 billion component waves of the electronic gamma photon, which appeared at the annihilation of the electron with the positron, after the contraction 137 times and their refraction at 360 degrees. The bipolar structure of the electron is faithfully reflected by the figure that appears on the screen of the test tube, in the Shtern-Gerlack experiment.
She died 5 yrs before the nobel was awarded. End of story. And besides she was unable to get the structure from the picture she was sitting on (picture that was taken by a male Masters student). She just wasnt very good.
@@5678plm The question should be directed at Franklin. What were her discoveries? None, she and her assustants took pictures without ever coming up with a structural model. Being placed on a pedestal by ignorant feminists.
When are you going to present the injustice perpetrated by the military establishment falsely claiming the invention of EMAIL, that was written using FORTRAN by a 14 year old boy in Newark New Jersey, who's work was accepted by the Smithsonian as the 50,000 line of code written by VA Shiva Ayyadurai, THE TRUE INVENTOR OF EMAIL.
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Yes, and they withdraw them too when they see an unjust awarding. I'm speaking of other cases here.
A Nobel Prize was given posthumously a few years ago.
yes.....fix the issue regardless of when it is enacted....
Yes. Obviously.
There’s so many instances of inventions being stolen it’s sickening. Sad part is most of these cases we’ll never know.
watson and creek did actually decript the molecular structure of DNA which was a world changing thing and not espeically brilliant but nobel winning... Frankling did very hard work that imaged a helix structure, which was also nobel winning, and the should have won it all three. The nobel kindof sucks because it is pop-science and doesn't look at a problem as a complex teamwork but as the scientist that did the final leap.
Franklin's assistant very dishonestly defended undermining her. Probably good to get a job with Watson & Crick, or at least recognition. Science history doesn't look kindly upon such absconders.
Many thinkers race to find the answer, but some steal. That's why many rush, but keep it secret.
Satyendra Bose a pioneer in quantum statistics and of Boson fame, was ignored for a Nobel but others who relied on his findings went on to win Nobel.
Seven Nobel Prizes were awarded for work directly relating to S N Bose's research and results. Franklin, a woman, and Bose, an Indian, were likely devalued for not being white, European men. Controversial, but true considering that sexism and racism were the "norm" during most of the 20th century. Thankfully time and common sense have improved the standing and lot of women and people of colour. Truly smart folk operating at the levels of these two are rare. I'm grateful that the doors of opportunity are open to more, now.
This situation is nothing but a bunch of men trying to bring down an educated women, when she was about to get herself proved that she too (in general.. the women) had the capabilities and talent.❤as similar as men.
Btw, I'm not trying to be misandry or smthng like that.....
I'm just feeling bad that her efforts and hard work was never rewarded 😢
Men in general are Better at wonning Nobel prices i mean its 95%
The big difference between men and women is that when it comes to acts of over all geniuses men do not need women to accomplish amazing inventions discoveries cures for diseases etc women could never have built the modern world just by themselves but men can and have done it all and have never needed the help of women and this modern feminist push for women equal rights is actually damaging to society women have a nauseating habit of vastly over rating themselves and let me give you just one example of how ruinous feminist equality is Birmingham city council has become bankrupt because of the deluded hostile rampant anti male doctrine of feminism i should know i was the union boss of the binmen who were the sacrificial lambs slaughtered on the altar of feminism that has resulted in bankruptcy and finally all women is go on about is being the equals of men yet men aspire to up there with the gods we split the atom put a man on the moon Beethoven and so much else that has benefited everyone on this planet yet we are hated and despised for doing these things resentful hateful jealousy that what lies at the heart of these sentiments the fact is she had ample opportunity to recognize what Crick and Watson saw and she failed! i often wonder why one of the greatest geniuses that ever lived never bothered with women but you will have to guess that one! ha ha
The same happened with J.C.Bose, Marconi took all the credit
Thanks for putting light to this. Rosalind deserves more respect. There are many scientists or researchers whose contributions have been ignored or forgotten.
Such as the people who took "her" photo... Ever heard of them? They were men.
Another great mind who wasn't bestowed upon by the Nobel prize was Narinder Kapany. An Indian physicist who did groundbreaking work in the field of fiber optics, essentially making the internet possible.
As someone who adores unsung geniuses, I would request you to make a video on him
I don't believe we Brits have fully recognised her achievement. But the USA has the Rosalind Franklin University of Medicine and Science, in North Chicago, IL. With a larger than life bronze of her.
Its so sad but this was a general trend. This happened to most women scientists because the society didn’t want educated women contributing to science which was primarily seen as fit only for men. Just imagine how much the society would have been advanced if the other half(women) was allowed education. After 1600s let's say 1-10% women were allowed in science but imagine if from 1000 AD women were encouraged to study.
The thing that happened with Rosalind Franklin also happened with the Great Marie Curie. However, Curie did see herself getting recongonised within her lifetime.
Great story. Would make a great movie.
There is an article: Rosalind Franklin, The Dark Horse of DNA by Sara Davila
Give it to Stephen Spielberg - Franklin was jewish
In an alternate universe she would have received the Nobel prize
Just like Jocelyn Bell Burnell
Edit:
Never mind, they did Rosalind way more dirty.
This coincidentally reminds me of the discovery of Nuclear fission where Lise Meitner also didn't get the Nobel prize either.
Yes, I thought the video was about Meitner.
A much better choice for an overlooked scientist than Franklin!
The problem there, as in many other cases, is that there were more than 3 people who each contributed something unique and indispensable to the discovery. She was just one of them. She was not the only one who didn't get a Nobel Prize for that discovery. The others were men.
Rest in peace Doctor Rosalind 🤲
It seems like she was close to finding it but didnt fully discover it.
Controversy is mostly about her work being shared without her consent as Watson/Crick were unlikely to discover the structure without Photo 51. Watson himself admitted to it in his book. Her research partner and other university staff unfortunately lacked the foresight to keep it from competitors by either bragging about it or trying to perhaps sabotage her.
@@jonathanvillegas7570But Franklin did NOT take photo 51. Raymond Gosling did. Why so much talk about Franklin not getting the Noble Prize and nothing about Gosling not getting it?
@@peterfireflylund yes, but what did he do with it? she recognized its importance. did he have the insight to decipher it?
@@kalevala29 she certainly didn’t. Support about the feminist myth you’ve been fed but it’s wrong.
@@peterfireflylund I'm not sure about his myth but are you denying that when Hahn and Strassmann conducted experiments that led to the discovery of nuclear fission, it was Meitner who made sense of their results. She realized that the nucleus had split. All that was overshadowed.
Compare and contrast with Madam Curie who got 2.
So sad. May they receive their prize someday soon.
God bless.
I think you can get it after you die. 😔
I’m sorry, I’m meant *can’t. You can’t get it after you die.
Despicable scientific arrogance by Watson and Crick.
The system still encourages whoever gets to patent first, sadly
Most Nobel prizes are in fields of fundamental science where patents are not awarded.
@@sdutta8 Barak Obama won the Nobel prize for peace...unfortunately, Nobel prize is not how things are measured
Have a good day
Rosalind Frenklin died before Watson & Crick won the Nobel Prize.
She died before the work she, Watson, and Crick won the latter two the Nobel Prize The Nobel committee must awrd the prize to a living person or persons.
The Nobel Peace Prize committee awards Peace Prizes to organisations, tho' its founding provisions prescribe a person
extremely sad. exposes the society of degenerates she lived in,
In almost every Nobel prize in any scientific field, there is someone who could, or should, have been included because their work was a pivotal influence or source.
Why pretend this is some specific, big offense?
Oh, because it's a WOMAN, and ¡¡¡Patriarchy™!!!
/snore
Why should brilliant minded women be denied their brilliance and men lauded for theirs. This male orientated mindset is counter productive to the advancement of our society.
Please makes more videos like TSMC, ASML, ZEISS.., 👆👆👆👆
6:45 why calling her rosy is disrespectful and disparaging? may be i’m coming from a different culture, could you please elaborate?
this vid only has 850 likes and 66 comments????????????????????? you deserve it better
Thomas Edison*king of robbing inventions*
This made me mad.
This is sad😢
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9. Banning women going out
10. Banning women to breathe after stoning
Every time I hear women say “I was born in the wrong era,”suggesting they wish they were born in past times…I remind them of things just like this. How many women have had their hard work and authentically earned discoveries stolen by men who had no respect or regard for their worth or contribution to whatever field they were working in.
This was definitely before me2
While I admit these things can happen in science and most certainly do, videos like these detract us from the science itself.
It doesn't matter who finds something. It's the something that matters.
Nobel prize is overrated. She did her best and had her idea that’s all what mattered to her.
Cindy I am Still waiting for the max plank video. please make a video on him
The award and withholding of the Nobel prize is anchored in politics. There are numerous other such examples.
Indeed. Barack Hussein Obama II being a recent, outrageous example.
Franklin is very well known today. Her place in the history of science is secure.
Shut down all beef export company,
LOL at people making judgements based on TH-camr.
Heat hear - woman's work marginalized or stolen by men
You should make a video about Oliver Heaviside
*THANK YOU - - watson + crick SHOULD HAVE “their” NOBEL PRIZE **_RESCINDED_*
PLEASE HIT THE THUMBS UP 👍🏼 IF YOU AGREE !
*_THE PRIZE SHOULD BE AWARDED TO ROSALIND FRANKLIN - PERIOD !_*
THANK YOU CINDY POM FOR SHARING THIS - - IT REALLY GAVE ME A WAKE-UP CALL THAT I NEEDED. 👩🏻🙏🏼👍🏼💗🕊
Heard about that Gal that showed Crick and Watson a thing or two about chemistry. Imagine that, a chemist working with a physics? Like Seaborg or someone? A lot of toe tapping, in a lot of ways, a lot of the time.
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I knew it by the title. What a ripoff.
She was not robbed. She was very reticent about showing her work to anyone. If you don't show it you can't get a Nobel.
She wasn't robbed of anything, as she was dead when the Noble Prize was awarded, and you cant give them posthumously.
But don't let that get in the way of a good woke victimhood narrative lol.
It's not even that, though. I'm sure worse things happen to women in science all the time. Academia has scummy exploitative practices throughout, and this is what you she came up with?
Did Watson cite Roslin’s work in his paper?
Some even think that even she had faked the photographs😢
Not Cool.... I can relate though it's really a blessing when one does that to another... God unveils truth! Justice is being served now! You guys are awesome for sharing this story!
Thank you!
Yes, I believe Rosalind Franklin needs to be given the Nobel Prize posthumously. It is a horrifying story of injustice and a lack of grace by Crick and Watson.
That's just it. The Nobel prize can't be awarded posthumously. It can only be awarded to living persons.
@@dirremoireAnd only to up to three people.
disgusting.
Why was she called the dark lady ?
This genuinely pisses me off
Delicacy redefined 😇
Thanks for bringing this out in the general public domain
I learned about Watson and Crick in high school. I will never think the same about them again. Disgusting.
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bringing dramas into STEM
Very interesting
Thanks sad 😢
so based on this should be take the credits from edison or isac newton for there inventions and theories ?
The electron is a high-amplitude bipolar stationary wave, i.e. consisting of two diametrically opposite half-waves, which rotates (propagates) with the speed C/137 (m/s), on the circle of the electron's radius. The high-amplitude bipolar wave is born from the constructive interference of the 9 billion component waves of the electronic gamma photon, which appeared at the annihilation of the electron with the positron, after the contraction 137 times and their refraction at 360 degrees. The bipolar structure of the electron is faithfully reflected by the figure that appears on the screen of the test tube, in the Shtern-Gerlack experiment.
@4:50 my eyes rolled back so far they went into my head
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She died 5 yrs before the nobel was awarded. End of story. And besides she was unable to get the structure from the picture she was sitting on (picture that was taken by a male Masters student). She just wasnt very good.
This is a Classic example of misogynistic horsemanure, and, of course was written by a man; absolutely revolting in my view.
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@@arthurpowers3724 Are you assuming my gender? How dare you, you Neanderthal.
@@arthurpowers3724 Is he lying about anything? if he is, elaborate, rather than insult.
show us your discoveries
@@5678plm The question should be directed at Franklin. What were her discoveries? None, she and her assustants took pictures without ever coming up with a structural model. Being placed on a pedestal by ignorant feminists.
When are you going to present the injustice perpetrated by the military establishment falsely claiming the invention of EMAIL, that was written using FORTRAN by a 14 year old boy in Newark New Jersey, who's work was accepted by the Smithsonian as the 50,000 line of code written by VA Shiva Ayyadurai, THE TRUE INVENTOR OF EMAIL.
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