Hi Pawel, have you investigated making the inav code compatible with the MFD Crossbow Mini AAT ? quite a few of us guys out here have the crossbow, (great bit of mechanical kit) and would love to have it working with an ordinary analogue video signal. without any additional hardware i.e. Telefly 😃 Thanks in advance 👍
A little off topic, INAV question. If you use RESET HOME WP on INAV in the air, will it not drop the altitude? EXAMPLE, I flew up a large hill at an altitude from the point of the house, let it be 500 meters .. The height difference on the ground changed, and became + 200m .. I reset the point home. I flew off another couple of kilometers and turned on the return home. how will the landing take place? those. the copter will try to land up to -200 altitude, when it touches the ground, it will disarm or push further down to 0 (in fact -200)
Ok I built one, but I don’t have 3d printer and I don’t fly behind me so I used cheap $7 pan and tilt from Amazon. Since I only have 180 degrees I mod the servo. It works very well! Oh I also used a vtx for relay because I don’t like the wire. Thx for inspiration!
hi Pawel i am looking in to this project but i have seen you need to flash a specific firmware to make it work.. can you confirm this would work with my inav 7.1 10"? looking for an antenna tracker for long range..
I have asked about this kit back in May on the RC group forum but no one has replied. I want this kit and I live in the USA. How can I buy the kit? I have a 3d printer for the rest.
Cool, but I think it seems like adding a $14 GPS with compass on board would make setup a little easier. Though if it is using azimuth, it seems like it would just need to face the same direction as the aircraft at arm, and North wouldn't matter.
I believe the tracker doesn’t know where it actually is in relation to the aircraft. Rather it assumes it’s at the ‘home’ (hopefully first arm) of the aircraft. So I think it does then need have north (or a known heading) defined by positioning the base of the unit.
I wish antenna trackers were more mature and easier to access. Maybe I'm just not educated enough but nothing is well standardized, affordable, and easy to integrate. Flying long range, in one direction, has been a non-issue with a simple tripod for me. Once you're 20 miles or more away from home the beam width of the antenna is so large the antenna tracker won't move :)
Why I never use one and probably never will. I have a 7ft tripod with 14db triple feed that gets me over 26miles down range. To me these are just one more thing to break while on the field and setup isn't great either. I slap my tripod up plug in and go with my current setup. Takes literally 20 seconds and I'm flying
Antenna Trackers seem like something that is ripe for a mfg to make plug and play and more importantly a available from some of the more popular FPV/Quad stores. I'm guessing this is going to get a lot more mature when the FAA starts requiring Remote ID :C
Great demo. Now if you could mount a phone on the tracker and adjust zoom based on distance to home, you'd have the perfect LOS video robot. (provided the servo could handle the extra weight)
Hey Pawel, Great video on your tracking Reciever unit. I have thought about making one, I probably will at some point. Thanks again for the video and information.
I have an AAT and I'm ditching it as soon as I'm able to get my Sentinel. For one, I won't need to purchase teleflys and their compatibility with some cameras is quite bad.
Patch is used all the time. This RX light a led on used antenna, and patch is lighed up all the time :) Besides, why do I need two directional antennas?
@@FPVUniversity I didn't suggest two directionals. Just one patch so we can see how well it tracks, although a 14dbi gain antenna would be better...No antenna on the other port at all...🤔😳
Looks good, maybe we could do a version with stepper motors? The deadzone is not a major issue as you dont generally fly long range in two directions :P
No. it does not need to pair with FC. Tracker uses video link for transfer telemetry data, it's coded in OSD. Just select channel on your video receiver. Look at the first post on rcgroup, there is explanation how it works.
@@error414 thank you for reply! I have looked on the rcgroups thread for more information, would this system work with sharkbyte? or am i right in thinking it only works with analog systems that wire through fc. i.e video in cam.. fc chucks co ordinates on the vid out of the tx?
Whats the point of using a tracker with omni antenna? The radiation pattern is more or less a ball. Arent these meant to be used with a directional antennas?
What is in the telemetry that's sent between the drone and the tracker? Is it GPS position? Or is the tracker doing a PID control loop on signal strength?
Hi Pawel, have you investigated making the inav code compatible with the MFD Crossbow Mini AAT ? quite a few of us guys out here have the crossbow, (great bit of mechanical kit) and would love to have it working with an ordinary analogue video signal. without any additional hardware i.e. Telefly 😃 Thanks in advance 👍
You could try a more directional antenna on it, and then go fly behind some tree lines, with the VTX on 25mw.
Amazing clear without distortion!
The image is indeed very clear. I was not flying too far, but still, nice image quality
Very cool project! Another one to add to my growing list!
Built mine a few weeks ago, but continued lockdown preventing using it. Brilliant design!
You guys are getting screwed with your lockdowns!
Hello, can you tell me the maximum range to follow the drone for the antenna tracker?
Cześć, czy obecnie jest system zgodny z cyfrą ? Np w oparciu o gps z telemetrii elers ?
A little off topic, INAV question. If you use RESET HOME WP on INAV in the air, will it not drop the altitude? EXAMPLE, I flew up a large hill at an altitude from the point of the house, let it be 500 meters .. The height difference on the ground changed, and became + 200m .. I reset the point home. I flew off another couple of kilometers and turned on the return home. how will the landing take place? those. the copter will try to land up to -200 altitude, when it touches the ground, it will disarm or push further down to 0 (in fact -200)
HOME RESET resets position and altitude. Both.
Ok I built one, but I don’t have 3d printer and I don’t fly behind me so I used cheap $7 pan and tilt from Amazon. Since I only have 180 degrees I mod the servo. It works very well! Oh I also used a vtx for relay because I don’t like the wire. Thx for inspiration!
hi Pawel i am looking in to this project but i have seen you need to flash a specific firmware to make it work.. can you confirm this would work with my inav 7.1 10"? looking for an antenna tracker for long range..
I have asked about this kit back in May on the RC group forum but no one has replied. I want this kit and I live in the USA. How can I buy the kit? I have a 3d printer for the rest.
Cool, but I think it seems like adding a $14 GPS with compass on board would make setup a little easier.
Though if it is using azimuth, it seems like it would just need to face the same direction as the aircraft at arm, and North wouldn't matter.
I believe the tracker doesn’t know where it actually is in relation to the aircraft. Rather it assumes it’s at the ‘home’ (hopefully first arm) of the aircraft. So I think it does then need have north (or a known heading) defined by positioning the base of the unit.
I wish antenna trackers were more mature and easier to access. Maybe I'm just not educated enough but nothing is well standardized, affordable, and easy to integrate. Flying long range, in one direction, has been a non-issue with a simple tripod for me. Once you're 20 miles or more away from home the beam width of the antenna is so large the antenna tracker won't move :)
Why I never use one and probably never will. I have a 7ft tripod with 14db triple feed that gets me over 26miles down range. To me these are just one more thing to break while on the field and setup isn't great either. I slap my tripod up plug in and go with my current setup. Takes literally 20 seconds and I'm flying
@@Freebird_67 same here! Set it and forget it. Even better with a repeater so you can put it in an ideal location.
czy ja ten odcinek przegapiłem ? testowałeś GS Pitlab ???
Nie
Fantastic, Pawel! That should be pretty useful! 😃
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Why did you mount omni antennas on a tracking mount? Do you plan to actually testing the mount's tracking ability some day?
One was directional, one omni
With Inav being able to send that info through the video Would eagletree eagle eyes be compatible with it
Antenna Trackers seem like something that is ripe for a mfg to make plug and play and more importantly a available from some of the more popular FPV/Quad stores. I'm guessing this is going to get a lot more mature when the FAA starts requiring Remote ID :C
Any idea how it performs at the edge of reception?
Great demo.
Now if you could mount a phone on the tracker and adjust zoom based on distance to home, you'd have the perfect LOS video robot. (provided the servo could handle the extra weight)
Haha this is great. Love to see this thing tracks the quad like a cat who sees a bird
What happens if you stick your finger between the cog wheels? Now you have to try it to tame your curiosity.
What i should to put in my drone that this AAT works??
Analog VTX, INAV and that's basically all. And a GPS of course
Hey Pawel, Great video on your tracking Reciever unit. I have thought about making one, I probably will at some point. Thanks again for the video and information.
Nice, I was waiting for this test. OK, so what AT does when you completely lost video for a second? Tracker stick at position or seek around?
it keeps position
nice.. i've been trying go get MFD to contribute to the inav code the same thing for their MFD AAT
I have an AAT and I'm ditching it as soon as I'm able to get my Sentinel. For one, I won't need to purchase teleflys and their compatibility with some cameras is quite bad.
@@adilsongoliveira i've never had an issue with mine, although that said, i don't use the telefly either. I run crsf right into it from my transmitter
@@WX4CB I'm sorry, what do you mean? If you don't use the telefly, how do you make the MFD tracker point toward the plane?
@@adilsongoliveira i run a bluetooth connection from my crossfire module to the tracker and it decodes the CRSF telemetry coming from inav
@@WX4CB Your MFD tracker decodes CRFS?
Wondering if this would work with express LRS 900 MHz system? I tried the ghetto station without mav link and can’t get it going.
does not matter what system you use, telemetry is send over video.
^^this
Great job Pawel...I would have been more impressed had you removed the Omni antenna from the video RX though....Maybe next time?..🤔😳🙄🇬🇧
Patch is used all the time. This RX light a led on used antenna, and patch is lighed up all the time :) Besides, why do I need two directional antennas?
@@FPVUniversity I didn't suggest two directionals. Just one patch so we can see how well it tracks, although a 14dbi gain antenna would be better...No antenna on the other port at all...🤔😳
Great stuff ..is it works based on GPS position?
Based on azimuth transmitted from the UAV
Can this work with DJI mini 3
No, will not work
Looks good, maybe we could do a version with stepper motors? The deadzone is not a major issue as you dont generally fly long range in two directions :P
Hey Pawel!
can you tell me which oled display will fit the aat?
the standard 0,91" I2C OLED
Hi, is this limited to solo use? flying alone, and what if somebody else turns up. Does it pair to the fc ? thx for any answers any one can provide!
No. it does not need to pair with FC. Tracker uses video link for transfer telemetry data, it's coded in OSD. Just select channel on your video receiver. Look at the first post on rcgroup, there is explanation how it works.
@@error414 thank you for reply! I have looked on the rcgroups thread for more information, would this system work with sharkbyte? or am i right in thinking it only works with analog systems that wire through fc. i.e video in cam..
fc chucks co ordinates on the vid out of the tx?
if coded in osd, that is passed to sharkbyte via rx and tx? possible ?
Whats the point of using a tracker with omni antenna? The radiation pattern is more or less a ball. Arent these meant to be used with a directional antennas?
There are two antenna and the second is directional. RX switches to the one that has better reception. So where do you see a problem?
Omni antenna has no need tracker.
Interest of a tracker antenna is to use high gain antenna with narrow beam
@@FPVUniversity My bad. Didnt see the second antenna. But now that you asked, capitalism is a big problem.
What is in the telemetry that's sent between the drone and the tracker? Is it GPS position? Or is the tracker doing a PID control loop on signal strength?
It's azimuth
6:22 Ah, ha, ha, ha, stayin' alive, stayin' alive :D
it"s so cool
Yup, it's pretty cool indeed
Finally...
Need a minimalist goggle mounted solution
I can see this getting used against us as a way to find dodgy pilots
Liked it so I bought a 3d printer…..3 days to print whole thing 😮
only 3 days? That's fast :)
Me want
Yes. The shity osd with pain in the ass