Michael Brecker Playing Drums Like Steve Gadd To Demonstrate How Much He Values Musical Time

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  • @max.risenhoover
    @max.risenhoover ปีที่แล้ว +214

    I had the privilege of working with Michael, and I’m a drummer. My role was production and arrangement and rhythm programming, but not live drumming. I just wasn’t good enough to compete with the caliber of players that Mike was accustomed to working with. But there was a need for an overdub of a cymbal swell, and rather than setting up a session, we thought it would simple for me to just do it. After a couple takes, I could tell he was frustrated. He kept asking me to play it more like the way Jack DeJohnette would play it, but I just didn’t have Jack in my vocabulary.
    Little did I know that Mike could have just played it himself. I had no idea he was such a good drummer. I worked with him for quite a few months and he never even mentioned that he played. I didn’t know until watching this video. His talent was off the charts, and this just makes me miss him more than I already did.

    • @YoPaulieMusic
      @YoPaulieMusic  ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Max, thanks so much for sharing your personal experience with us. This is why I upload these videos... Mike was a friend of mine, I created and ran his first web site, from 1995-2000. He was such a great person, I love hearing stories about him. He was so humble and gracious.

    • @tpietzcker
      @tpietzcker ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Oh man, I just listened to Return of the Brecker Brothers again last week - one of my favorite albums of that time, played it until the tape wore out. And your drum grooves are awesome, it doesn't get better than that.

    • @SA_SovereigntyForPatriots
      @SA_SovereigntyForPatriots ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Max, thanks for sharing that. I'm a pianist from South Africa, and when Mike toured with Paul Simon's Graceland band in 1985.
      The only real Jazz club that was in Johannesburg was a club called Rumours on the famous Restaurant Row, Rocky Sreet
      in Yeoville's, Greenwich-like, neighborhood. That Saturday night I was performing there with my band when
      in walked Mike and some members of Simon's band. He asked if he could sit in, of course we were, all to say the least, elated.
      However, he wanted to play drums, everyone was like, huh? Needless to say he's drum playing was, well..... we were all blown away.
      Further to that, many years later I got to perform with Rand Brecker in the Hamptons, NY. Awesome legendary brothers in their humanity, humility and musical excellence!!!
      Incidently, I got to perform with Kendall Kay, South African, years later, who was the student that gave up his drum chair for
      Mike in this workshop video. Wow, what a small world!!!

    • @jeffwolinski2659
      @jeffwolinski2659 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That's a great story, he was an amazing human being.

    • @bodhibeats8257
      @bodhibeats8257 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What an incredible story! Thanks for sharing! 😁

  • @drbassface
    @drbassface ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I was 20 playing Bass in Montreux with Etta James.
    They had equipment/drums set up in the lounge, and made it only for Musicians.
    One afternoon I had my bass plugged in, and Michael and Randy were there.
    Michael sat down and started playing swing on the drums with me.
    I wish I knew more about it at 20.
    Later learned a bit more at Berklee.
    Cool memory.

    • @YoPaulieMusic
      @YoPaulieMusic  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That makes you a member of a relatively exclusive club: people that played with Mike while he was playing drums. :)

    • @drbassface
      @drbassface ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes!
      This was from my Etta gig! th-cam.com/video/zAMJVPlgvBc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=-X1X7cdfn2Jda4U-
      Rip Gerald Stockton

  • @johnveca2979
    @johnveca2979 ปีที่แล้ว +131

    What a treat. Of course the guy can play drums. After all, he's not a saxophone genius, rather he's a MUSICAL genius!

    • @winstonsmith8240
      @winstonsmith8240 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      For once someone is using the word "genius" correctly.

    • @ahambrahmasmi108
      @ahambrahmasmi108 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah...the "g" word is properly applied here. Rest peacefully Mr. Brecker!

  • @nedgrant918
    @nedgrant918 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    A saxophonist once asked me (a drummer), “What are you thinking when you accompany soloists?” I don’t know his motivation for asking, but the answer just instantly popped out: “I want them to know somebody’s listening.” Stunned silence.

    • @jordanfrancisco27
      @jordanfrancisco27 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Call and response?

    • @jazz4asahel
      @jazz4asahel ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Great response. Drummers need heavy ears and a light touch.

    • @davidscott1052
      @davidscott1052 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Spot on 😁😁😁😁

  • @selliantuttimusi6735
    @selliantuttimusi6735 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    WOW! Didn't know he was this amazing on drums! This guy was truly a musical genius. RIP Micheal Brecker.

  • @jfmax2000
    @jfmax2000 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Whoa !!!! I Had No Idea Michael Brecker Played Drums on That Level... Absolutely Amazing 😎👊💯💯 Rest in Power My Most Awesome Musical Big Brotha Michael B 💖💖

  • @alexandremello6913
    @alexandremello6913 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Damn. He's really good at it and knows what he is doing. Very light touch on the ride cymbal and perfect ghost notes on the snare drum. Jeez, what a musical colossus Mike was.

    • @gravitydrums1391
      @gravitydrums1391 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yea, he actually is. As a seasoned drummer myself I can tell you he actually is a really good drummer other than you can tell he was just a little cold..

  • @artysanmobile
    @artysanmobile ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Michael was such a pleasure to record. Unlike here, he was kinda quiet, did all his speaking through his horn. Best though, was that he was always surprising, taking turns no one else thought of and playing the ensemble role to perfection.
    Much of my work with him included his brother Randy. They were as different as two brothers could be and the contrast was fantastic hearing on stage. I saw Michael go through some difficult times and always felt the need to lift his spirits. It was a sad day losing him.

  • @bryandickerson5365
    @bryandickerson5365 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hi Paul - I’m another sax player that was watching/listening to Mr Brecker’s presentation that day from cloud nine! We were used to hearing horn players able to function on the drums, but Michael’s ability was, well, what you’d expect from who we now realize was one of the greatest musicians of the 20th century. The next evening some friends and I went to see him with Steps Ahead at a club in Dallas which was further mind blowing
    Fun aside: I got to watch him play video games before he went back-stage before the show. Also, after the first tune, he commented - “Never eat too much Tex-Mex food before playing the saxophone.” :^)
    We were lucky to be there then. Thanks for posting!

    • @YoPaulieMusic
      @YoPaulieMusic  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What a fantastic story, thanks for sharing! I was still a senior in high school, I didn't get to Denton until that Fall. Fortunately I got to know Michael working with him on some stuff. I concur, Tex-Mex before a gig is not a good idea. :)

    • @bryandickerson5365
      @bryandickerson5365 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@YoPaulieMusic Fantastic you got to work with him - I’d like to know more!
      Some years back I spent some time with another NTSU grad Tim Ries (Rolling Stones) who got to know Michael as a neighbor in NYC. He said Brecker was such a wonderful person.
      Have you checked out The Jazz Video Guy’s series of YT interviews regarding Michael? They’re definitely worth watching.

    • @YoPaulieMusic
      @YoPaulieMusic  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@bryandickerson5365 I founded Mike's first web site, michaelbrecker.com back in 1995. It was a project to teach myself this new web thing, and a friend of his found my page and told Mike about it. Mike looked me up and called me, and that began our friendship. I ran his web site up until 2000 when my daughter was born. He introduced me to David Sanborn and I founded davidsanborn.com and managed his site as well until 2000. Then I turned the sites over to their record labels since I was a new dad and needed to focus on that. Stayed friends with Mike over the years, and after Impulse destroyed his formerly useful web site I met with Mike and suggested that we create a new web site more inline with what I had done, versus the boring marketing crap that his site had become. He loved the idea, so I launched ibrecker.com and ran that until a few years after his death. He was such a great guy, so humble and so into technology. My last email from him was a couple of weeks before he died.

    • @bryandickerson5365
      @bryandickerson5365 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@YoPaulieMusic What great experiences those must have been!
      I’m not sure if the whole NTSU lecture is available so one more fun story: someone asked him about what it was like doing the Saturday Night Live show (1985). He answered that on the very first taping he had to do the two things he hated the most, “wearing a swimsuit and dancing” on the Eddie Murphy skit ‘James Brown’s Allstar Hot tub Party’.

    • @RonWinter335
      @RonWinter335 ปีที่แล้ว

      LOVE Steps Ahead!

  • @andysmith6156
    @andysmith6156 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I've played with so many drummers through the years some really good, but very few who keep "time" like he said. There is a big difference. The best way I can describe it is they play with conviction, you never have to guess where they are.

  • @bobbysands6923
    @bobbysands6923 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I've seen Michael in concert over a dozen times. One the last times was at the Blue Note in NYC in 2001, with Chic Corea. He did a solo that brought you down to the depths of hell and then back to heaven, one of the greatest things I have ever heard. Great guy, still can't believe he is gone. But I didn't know he played drums until now, and he sounds like a professional session player. Not bad for a guy who hadn't played in "many moons."

  • @Craigo-xg5mc
    @Craigo-xg5mc ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Those partial triplets really are like Steve Gadd, especially on Autumn Leaves with Chet Baker. Not exactly easy to get those fast and smooth.

    • @p.diddle
      @p.diddle ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Funny that was exactly what it reminded me of: Steve Gadd on Chet Baker’s Autumn Leaves. Perhaps Steve tought him a few tricks?

  • @dokproduction9881
    @dokproduction9881 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm not surprised.. This musician was a real genius!
    Back in time (It was in the 80's) I saw him play a couple of bars on the drums during a soundcheck.. I was impressed.

  • @carlnewman5448
    @carlnewman5448 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Beautiful touch and so versatile. I witnessed him doing this, whilst playing with John Schofield at the RFH, many years ago.

    • @cooldebt
      @cooldebt ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lucky you!!

    • @carlnewman5448
      @carlnewman5448 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cooldebt you do feel blessed. He certainly was a Titan and such a huge influence on other musicians.

  • @simmjz5738
    @simmjz5738 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    saw one his last appearances .he played with such intensity and virtuosity that i was completely worn out. brilliant player and now a drummer as well. Such a great talent to have lost!

  • @davidscott1052
    @davidscott1052 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Could have been a top drummer in another lifetime

  • @griffinbjorkman6337
    @griffinbjorkman6337 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Wow. I am thoroughly impressed. Such a musical beast!

    • @YoPaulieMusic
      @YoPaulieMusic  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, absolutely. And as great as a musician he was, he was an even greater human being.

  • @yurib7067
    @yurib7067 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Back in the early 70s I used to play gigs with Mike at a restaurant in Nebraska where Mike played drums. The restaurant was known for red snapper and hush puppies

  • @drummerboy2521
    @drummerboy2521 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great jazzin Mike. like you left hand work.

  • @michaeledwardharris
    @michaeledwardharris ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wow, not at all what I expected! That was really smooth.

  • @rillloudmother
    @rillloudmother ปีที่แล้ว +9

    i'm glad you put 3/3/84 on this because that jacket has to be from 1985 or earlier. lol

    • @DrewElGringasho
      @DrewElGringasho ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't care what anybody says.. that jacket is FIRE.. I want it

  • @toddwalkerdrumstudio
    @toddwalkerdrumstudio ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Always loved Breckers fantastic playing for yearsssssssss...AND, I love this!!!!!!

  • @mysteryloaf
    @mysteryloaf ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm not terribly surprised that fella could comp better than I can, but I AM delighted to discover it! Nice clip

  • @chrisgoudy1954
    @chrisgoudy1954 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was completely surprised he was great at the drums. I don’t mean that in a bad way at all. It just means I am woefully ignorant of the breadth of his talents. That was cool to see.

  • @basslobster
    @basslobster ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was a nice treat 🎼👍🎶 Michael my hero 💖

  • @bernardobuffa2391
    @bernardobuffa2391 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I am in complete awe. Genius!

  • @nedgrant918
    @nedgrant918 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Got the left hand down!

  • @glennover6046
    @glennover6046 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Been aware of Michael Brecker since the '70's. Had no idea he played drums 'til I read "Ode to a Tenor Titan." Once I learned that fact, I was curious to see him behind the traps. Thank you for fulfilling my curiosity!

  • @PyroShredder982
    @PyroShredder982 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Look at that left hand!! Swingin’!!

  • @bourgkul
    @bourgkul ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Amazing drummer. Amazing musician. Few can truly master more than one instrument.

  • @MrGaffer49
    @MrGaffer49 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First time i heard Steve Gadd play live was in the summer of ‘75 with the Brecker brothers in New York city!

    • @Osnosis
      @Osnosis ปีที่แล้ว

      7th Avenue South!

  • @Joseph_Official
    @Joseph_Official ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Amazing…!!! 😲 His comping is so musical. Just imagine what kind of drummer he would have been if he acquired the techniques… 😲😲

  • @ikigomez1407
    @ikigomez1407 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow! Michael Brecker playing drums?! That was the first time I see it.

  • @thebreathalyzer
    @thebreathalyzer ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Drummer is like "did I just lose my job?!?" Mike played a lot of drums in the Loft Scene, they would all take turns.

  • @winstonsmith8240
    @winstonsmith8240 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've seen him playing BETTER than this before, and if I wasn't humbled by him already this blew me away. When asked I say; " He was good enough on the drums to play with Michael Brecker." 👍

  • @chriskutz7144
    @chriskutz7144 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man's multi talented. Peace Mike.

  • @paulstratforddearsley2516
    @paulstratforddearsley2516 ปีที่แล้ว

    On his Quartets recordings with Chick Corea there's a couple of tracks where MB does a duo on tenor sax with Chick on drum set. Wowee- talk about cooking!

  • @gitarmats
    @gitarmats ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What a legend.

  • @mickavellian
    @mickavellian ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Once a drummer ALWAYS Adrummer

  • @gernblenstein1541
    @gernblenstein1541 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I guess that’s why my bass teacher always stresses the groove. You can lose the note but don’t lose the groove.

  • @itikutok6568
    @itikutok6568 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did not expect this!

  • @batouttahell454
    @batouttahell454 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the viewpoint of a NON-DRUMMER! VERY IMPORTANT FOR DRUMMERS TO KNOW!

  • @Carlos-qz7ul
    @Carlos-qz7ul ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now this unique man is gone, as Jeff Beck is 😥 I didn't realize until I lose them. Will geniuses keep coming?

  • @Atezian
    @Atezian ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow he teared it up! Wasn't expecting that

  • @morganneher8643
    @morganneher8643 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!
    I never heard Mike play drums, that was GREAT!!!!!

  • @Studio-62
    @Studio-62 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ok yeah, I’m a great sax player…but hey did you know I can play drums too? Oh and I sing… such a humble guy but such a massive talent.

  • @janetremsing6988
    @janetremsing6988 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    👍🙂‼️Niceness! R.I.P. sir!

  • @cocoblizzard
    @cocoblizzard ปีที่แล้ว

    That comping was pretty legit.

  • @debralynnpaxton5238
    @debralynnpaxton5238 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love it !

  • @evanjazzista
    @evanjazzista ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The grin of the actual drummer says a lot.

  • @jazzfan7491
    @jazzfan7491 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow. Worth noting one of his albums is titled “Time is of the Essence”

  • @解析新人
    @解析新人 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That Confirmation in the Three Quartets album should have been done with Chick's drums and Michael's drums!

  • @bottleforty1
    @bottleforty1 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm in awe. I didn't know.😳

  • @drewash99
    @drewash99 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great stuff! 👍🏾

  • @nomadology8083
    @nomadology8083 ปีที่แล้ว

    Time is of the Essence

  • @murenismail1399
    @murenismail1399 ปีที่แล้ว

    Miss him so

  • @MrGiandrum
    @MrGiandrum ปีที่แล้ว +2

    talento immenso...

  • @techno4beer
    @techno4beer ปีที่แล้ว

    Perfect swing and groove…

  • @edgreened
    @edgreened ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks a lot this vidéo, impressive Michael

  • @charlescasey9799
    @charlescasey9799 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes he keeps time on drums. I’d like to see more he

  • @Marreroortiz
    @Marreroortiz ปีที่แล้ว

    He know to play super well

  • @Jamaicafunk
    @Jamaicafunk ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow. Now THIS is a video.

  • @wadesharp11
    @wadesharp11 ปีที่แล้ว

    That’s worth subscribing cheers from Nz

  • @DrummerScandinavia
    @DrummerScandinavia ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing!

  • @murenismail1399
    @murenismail1399 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this

  • @joejackson3668
    @joejackson3668 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nic work on the drums, mate

  • @TJB-zt9tx
    @TJB-zt9tx ปีที่แล้ว

    To play jazz, college level time studies are imperative. This is an exclusive club and they have no patience for those trying to learn. You do that in class.

  • @GrandeCapo_PallaPesante
    @GrandeCapo_PallaPesante ปีที่แล้ว

    Really in a Gadd style. Great

  • @ibleebinU
    @ibleebinU ปีที่แล้ว

    As he humbly shames me as a drummer. Nicely done.

  • @salastuto139
    @salastuto139 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice to see Danny Tanner on drums!

  • @JavierMartinez-rz4vc
    @JavierMartinez-rz4vc ปีที่แล้ว

    He was an special one,.

  • @lawrencetaylor4101
    @lawrencetaylor4101 ปีที่แล้ว

    Merci for this. Was this a lecture at the One O'Clock Jazz Lab?

  • @HowlingUlf
    @HowlingUlf ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You can't brush that guy off with a silly joke. Mike knows rhythm!

  • @RhythmDesigner
    @RhythmDesigner ปีที่แล้ว

    ナイスパフォーマンス!!!

  • @Pastorius23
    @Pastorius23 ปีที่แล้ว

    I guess Michael Brecker could do anything he wanted to do. Wow!

  • @pjmjazz
    @pjmjazz ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for sharing this clip! I attended this, but I forgot he played drums that day. I did hear him play drums at the North Sea Fest and was killin' it!

    • @Freddels1
      @Freddels1 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      There were always two sessions (one morning and one afternoon). He probably only did this at one of them. I don't remember him playing drums either but there's a lot I don't remember from almost 40 years ago. 🙂

    • @gmosc
      @gmosc ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Freddels1 good point about the two sessions. I picked Brecker up at the airport that day but couldn't attend the clinics cuz I had changed my major away from jazz.
      All of my friends raved about him playing drums so I knew about it and only heard it in TH-cam about 8 years ago.

  • @einarabelc5
    @einarabelc5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What people don't get is that this form of jazz is easy the body and hard on the brain. His brain already has the hard part learned. His point was to demonstrate what's the most important part of Jazz by switching to a rhythm instrument. It could have been a tambourine for all it matters.

  • @edoardozampetti4601
    @edoardozampetti4601 ปีที่แล้ว

    a genius...

  • @nedgrant918
    @nedgrant918 ปีที่แล้ว

    More soloists need to understand the rhythm section, and the contributions of the rhythm section that soloists often stepping on. Everybody is supposed to participate, right? Right?

  • @blopa5893
    @blopa5893 ปีที่แล้ว

    wow, does anyone know how and when he learned to play?

  • @JohnFraserFindlay
    @JohnFraserFindlay ปีที่แล้ว

    Holy!

  • @haru_jazzsax
    @haru_jazzsax ปีที่แล้ว

    🔥🔥🔥

  • @sonortubelug3853
    @sonortubelug3853 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    He sounds more like Elvin

  • @josephdorenbos2633
    @josephdorenbos2633 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He sound Elvin-ish! :)

  • @DZNTZ
    @DZNTZ ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It don’t mean a thing if it ain’t got that swing

  • @jimmyreid235
    @jimmyreid235 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, who knew..

  • @JoshuaWillis89
    @JoshuaWillis89 ปีที่แล้ว

    How could that POSSIBLY embarrassed him?

  • @yotrakzproductions7324
    @yotrakzproductions7324 ปีที่แล้ว

    We’ll said.

  • @kewlfonz
    @kewlfonz ปีที่แล้ว

    Didn't know Michael Brecker was that good at drumming??? He kept that quiet (pun not intended)...

  • @myworms
    @myworms ปีที่แล้ว

    I would’ve been there if I were older than 2

  • @michaelgiordano3757
    @michaelgiordano3757 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do we know it was supposed to be like Steve gadd?

    • @YoPaulieMusic
      @YoPaulieMusic  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He didn't say "I'm going to play like Steve Gadd." The title of this video is based on my impression that Mike's left hand snare work is reminiscent of how Steve Gadd played his snare during swing grooves.

  • @robertdevirgilio444
    @robertdevirgilio444 ปีที่แล้ว

    Shit!!!!….that’s all I got!!!….wow….

  • @groovemaster-bt7jr
    @groovemaster-bt7jr 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i was born in 1984

  • @robmurray2310
    @robmurray2310 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Like Elvin more like!

  • @reginalddavis7578
    @reginalddavis7578 ปีที่แล้ว

    How come I’m finding out now that Michael Brecker can actually play the drums?! Incredible!

    • @bobbysands6923
      @bobbysands6923 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just found out, too...never would have thought...

  • @stephengolden6080
    @stephengolden6080 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the greatest legacies in the Jazz genre, the Brecker Brothers!😐

  • @strandvaskeren
    @strandvaskeren ปีที่แล้ว

    Now lets hear Kendall play the sax..

  • @Eden_Rubin_Music
    @Eden_Rubin_Music ปีที่แล้ว

    Instrument is only one form of musical way to play out what you got as a musician. The only difference between a pro to an amateur is the years it took him to master the instrument. But every genius could pick a different instrument and become a master of it the same way even if it would be a different one.

  • @vid4ia583
    @vid4ia583 ปีที่แล้ว

    Stay on the sax!

  • @timeWaster76
    @timeWaster76 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Like Steve Gadd ???

    • @YoPaulieMusic
      @YoPaulieMusic  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, like Steve Gadd. Listen to the snare drum comping work he is doing... that is directly out of the Steve Gadd jazz style.

    • @timeWaster76
      @timeWaster76 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@YoPaulieMusic Yeah NO I love mick but just no.... I sure Mike can tell the difference.
      And he give good advice ..
      Nice on the rudiments though
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