@@tiffanylargie3861 for myself I found out it's better to be christ-like and have a relationship with God. than to be Christian .that's just my personal opinion not saying they're bad as a whole
Weird. I’ve been in christian circles all my life (very honest and good-willed ones fortunately). Then i started studying psychology and fell in love with spiritual ideas and got to the bottom of some things - as far as i can tell, and the first thing i thought when i really understood spirituality was “this is religion no?”. I tried doing research on the differences as explained by plenty of gurus and such, but i still can’t seem to see the difference except for the fact that religion leads people astray more often than spirituality, even though the goal is the same it seems. For these reasons i’m still an advocate of religion as an idea, but perhaps not as much when it comes to the masses (a good question would be what would happen if spirituality was as popular as religion). If there’s any other soul that already dealt with takes such as mine, i welcome anyone’s insight 🙏✌️
I actually really love this perspective. I complétele understand where you are coming from raised in a strong Christian religion. Here is what I have gathered for the difference. Religion is a made made journey with inserts of human insecurities and spirituality has feelings and internal dial that I feel like has a magnetic pull towards the pull - like the energy core. An energy core.
Awe. I was Christian when I was younger, being forced to go to Church. But all my families (foster homes) that went to Church were always broke and crying, suffering and in lack, while the pastor was loaded and had multiple cars, multiple houses, and everyone suffering would pay to hear the word of God but still have nothing...I believe in God or All mighty creator/Divine creator, but in a spiritual sense (non religious) because of my Spiritual Awakening...I am also in college for Psychology and spirituality makes more sense. But we all have to respect others opinions (their religion) but we don't have to agree and go along with it. We are all one and all Divine beings that came here to love more and experience our lives freely and connect to our Divine selves. We are all one consciousness but not alot of beings know this because of religious doctrines. Spiritual people go within to connect with God and cosmic consciousness, and religion is more of do what I say or God will punish you, and other religions or spirituality is the Devil. Religion leads people away from God telling them to get to know God (makes no sense), while Spirituality is finding God in all of creation and beings, plants animals...etc, showing compassion for all and not judging anyone becausewe are all one consciousness...Also, "hell" is made up to scare people and forces them to go to church or else God will send you to hell...Religion keeps putting fears and lies into people not bringing them closer to anything except the fear of God.
Spirituality is getting in touch with your own soul and with God. It’s also a path of self growth and awareness and HEALING. That’s how many “spiritual” people, once healed, can easily read someone’s energy and know who to bypass and know who to allow into their world.
Soooooo sooo true, the key word here is healing. I couldnt agree more. Wild to me that there are those that believe in religion that while on earth we don t heal - we just sit and suffer the entire time. Like thats the goal in itself. I literally 100% don't get it. I don't
@@tiffanylargie3861 it depends on what you mean by religious. Do you mean engaging in the man-made rituals and behavior sets most commonly performed in religious environments (see the Catholic Church) or being fully inline with YWVH and following the natural laws he’s set out for us? Yeshua was against religious practice but all for being close to God and living a spirit driven life. His apostles set up churches that look very different from the ones we have today. It seems like a lot of modern churches are meant to keep you from thinking and growing spiritually. If people are following the rituals and thinking they are getting somewhere they are messing themselves up. The church rituals can help to keep your focus on the Lord and spirit, and being spiritual can help you understand the Lord. Both together are a big help in having a good life, but the spiritual aspect matters more I think. You were pretty vague in your video tho so idk what aspects exactly you commented on.
@@charmingyoutuber2408 what is YWVH? First question. Yes the spiritual is 100% what I am referring to - man made has some benefits but I can think of five or six other institutions that help as guardarles for life that don’t have a deep seat in manipulation. That’s really it right there. Manipulation and fear as the driving factor.
@@tiffanylargie3861 Yahweh, the name of our Creator according to the Christian faith. I agree. To be in Christ is to exist without fear or anxiety. There’s no need for shame or guilt. As an example, Roman Catholicism LOVES to do the opposite of what the Bible teaches. They misrepresent scripture and keep people from truly understanding what it’s trying to teach them. Their traditions are hollow and completely man-made, and many of them are expressly forbidden in scripture. But eh. In truth, as far as religion is supposed to go you are really only meant to have a community of likeminded folks discussing their spiritual experiences as a family. None of the pomp, the golden crowns, the confession booths, or communions will do anything real for your spirit and your connection to our Creator.
@@charmingyoutuber2408 firstly jesus was an idol and that’s not spirituality what you’re doing is a sneaky covert way to promote religion. Abrahamic religions go against spirituality and free thinking and free thinking=spirituality, while Christianity+Abrahamic faiths=mindless worship aka religion promotion of that in anyway church rituals to keep focus on the lord and the spirit is still a way religion mindless worship as that’s what the Christian religion rituals are meant to do. We don’t need to spiritually understand a degenerate god. What you’re doing is a sneaky evangelical thing to get ppl back into church and mindless religion. The lord ain’t help nobody yet.
Question. When you say tolerate, do you mena accept them all and live with them all? Or allow their rules to override some of what you do to maintain the peace.
I graduated from religion years ago. I was led into spirituality by THE MOST HIGH. TMH started teaching me. Many asks "who taught you so much wisdom?" I always reply "The universal Father aka THE MOST HIGH, aka The CREATOR who created the GODS, THE MOST HIGH TAUGHT ME, NOT MAN!" 💯❤️❤️❤️❤️
I soooooo get this. It's like when you grow up and you start saying... wait what? This is wrong... or that don't make sense. Then you realize that religion is on the surface and you wanted to feel on the inside this is where spirituality comes in.
This is actually a one-way route to fact and experience through my story, which can't be argued. The idea may be, but my story, which is the foundation of this, you can't.
I mean I just came to hear what you had to say but you didn’t even really breakdown the differences or point out what is spiritual. You just said it’s different don’t be tricked.
Humans were spiritual beings first before any religion was created. Riddle me this ? What were humans doing before the existence of the Bible and religion?
@@Dynastithegoddess making up their own Gods or worshiping the true God they listened from their ancestors Adam and Eve…. Like Noah … the Bible starts with “in the beginning” so is important to note that the Bible was writing from time of creation
We are suppose to suffer, we ain't here on this world to have fun and play around and do what makes YOU happy and what makes YOU feel better about your wrong doings or whatever you feel guilty about. Me? I'm very happy, as happy as I can get cause I love God and I will offer up my works/joys and sufferings to him. Why? Because when Jesus was born and walked the Earth he did just that. Our own God became man to suffer like us and to be human. He did all of that for us to go and beg God to forgive us as unworthy worms that bathe in the filth that is the sea of sin. You seem to have it wrong, it's good to suffer, cause Christ did so we must. Now the suffering isn't constant, sometimes when hardships come we accept and thank God for them, he reminds us our place. I get that other religions and pagan beliefs say the same but who a d whre did they come from first? God the idea of God and what the Isrealites have said, the devil likes to copy God, so he makes up these fake God's and religions to distract and lead away. They say they have a hell and heaven but that's the scam of the devil. This is the age of apostasy, there will only be few believers of the true faith. The end of the fifth age. The world is filled with many lies. If you really think the idea of God is dangerous well you are just playing in the thread of time cause this was foretold. All of this whatvis happening now. End of religion and idea of God and that goes for any God not the one true God, oh yes the false God's exist but they are devils. They would rather you not believe if they can't get you to hate the true believers which are Catholics. The end of catholicism is near; the hurches are being destroyed and Christians are being persecuted. Not Like the churches nowadays follow the old ways but still. These are the signs. This was all foretold, WWIII, Russia will invade Europe, civilizations in the Americas will be destroyed by their own. The new world order. Satan will present himself through people. The bad pope. This is all suppose to happen. The world must be cleansed. The rapture isn't real though. Ohh no we Catholics that still hang on to the faith will suffer too cause we are guilty of sin.
Are you seriously trying to get me to see or agree that suffering is good. There is nothing I do mean nothing good about suffering. Nothing. If sucks. All of it.
@@tiffanylargie3861 it's ok to have fun and do what makes you happy but suffering will come no matter what. You offer it all up to God. Your works, joys and sufferings to him. If you don't.. then it's all meaningless
@@theghostofumarskoolishere.4632 Good times create weak men, hard times create strong and good men. Especially when that man accepts God's trials and thanks him for it. It strengthens our soul, it means he's thinking of you. If you don't suffer and have a good time on earth then your with the devil and already had a reward and pleasures on earth. Suffering is what we have to pay for our sins. Could be work, sickness, loved one dying, losing a job, getting in a bad car crash. All suffering that God allows for our sins to be more forgivable. People who only think about themselves only do good for themselves, only want to feel good and hate God because he is reality who allows bad things to happen because his people sin and offend him. People who the devil dnt gotta worry about dragging to hell with him cause they are already doomed.
Facts ppl energy’s are so toxic and gone that they use these imagination characters of the past instead of right now 🤦🏾♂️ like I got done talking to dude about this but something told me to shut up and cut the conversation off and keep moving
Sometimes you HAVE to shut up and keep it moving. You will lose your mind if you don't you will 100% put yourself in a tough place if you don't. You'll get trapped and upset and vexed with no win for you. You alwasy deserve the win, even if it is just peace in your mind.
WHOOOOOAAAA thats a whole statement in it self. Yes I would actually agree with this. I would agree. Yup. Is there any othter that this reminds you of?
I believe hell is exist but I can't say it out loud because it might be dangerous, I don't believe we can go to hell and be eternally damned, cursed, punished in there just because we are not Christian. that's what confuse me about religion
You're waking up. That's where it starts. Isn't that such a dumb concept??? That you can be doomed to an ETERNAL damnation worse than what's here on earth SIMPLY because you didn't buy into some doctrine that, frankly, doesn't make sense. 😂 Like, what if you were born in a country where a different religion is the "official" standard (like Islam or something else)? Maybe that's what your entire family and community believes in (or maybe they left it up to you to decide!) and you go along to get along, or because that's all you know. I was raised strictly Christian and I always had too many questions that couldn't be answered. When I went away to college, I made friends with other students from all over the world and they had varying beliefs, but were some of the most loving people that I'd ever met. I decided then for sure that "holiness" and trying to shove my indoctrination down someone else's throat was not for me. I literally just had a 'friend' stop speaking to me because I refuse to be manipulated into believing that I should be barefoot, pregnant and the 'first lady' of somebody's church. 🤣 I pray that everyone is at peace with whatever they choose to believe.
@@tiffanylargie3861 growing up in the Church means literally NOTHING AT ALL I spent 15 years in church and read the whole Bible and rejected Christianity… then I got Older … grew wiser… and actually studied and realize Jesus is the Truth… the Bible is the Truth… regardless of what u think
@@SpeeAD I hear you. I do. The Bible and the Church are two totally different things. Just like the Holy Spirit that you feel inside of you. All three totally different.
Spirituality tells you to go inward to find your truth, religion is manmade and tells you to trust their truth.
Yup. That’s exactly it. Trust THEIR truth. Manufactured.
I love this insight. 👏👏👏👏👏👏
yup
Amen so true. This is why I left the church
Ohhhh… i so get you. It’s a dad truth but its true. 100%.
It’s almost a mental freedom that happens as a result of it.
@@tiffanylargie3861 agreed
@@tiffanylargie3861 for myself I found out it's better to be christ-like and have a relationship with God. than to be Christian .that's just my personal opinion not saying they're bad as a whole
@@dod_studios 🙌🙌🙌🙌 - the truth. The absolutely truth … yes and more yes. ❤️
Religion to me is the same as politics. You listen to your leaders not your inner spirit to listen to God
i agree with this 100%.
Weird. I’ve been in christian circles all my life (very honest and good-willed ones fortunately). Then i started studying psychology and fell in love with spiritual ideas and got to the bottom of some things - as far as i can tell, and the first thing i thought when i really understood spirituality was “this is religion no?”. I tried doing research on the differences as explained by plenty of gurus and such, but i still can’t seem to see the difference except for the fact that religion leads people astray more often than spirituality, even though the goal is the same it seems. For these reasons i’m still an advocate of religion as an idea, but perhaps not as much when it comes to the masses (a good question would be what would happen if spirituality was as popular as religion). If there’s any other soul that already dealt with takes such as mine, i welcome anyone’s insight 🙏✌️
I actually really love this perspective. I complétele understand where you are coming from raised in a strong Christian religion.
Here is what I have gathered for the difference. Religion is a made made journey with inserts of human insecurities and spirituality has feelings and internal dial that I feel like has a magnetic pull towards the pull - like the energy core.
An energy core.
Awe. I was Christian when I was younger, being forced to go to Church. But all my families (foster homes) that went to Church were always broke and crying, suffering and in lack, while the pastor was loaded and had multiple cars, multiple houses, and everyone suffering would pay to hear the word of God but still have nothing...I believe in God or All mighty creator/Divine creator, but in a spiritual sense (non religious) because of my Spiritual Awakening...I am also in college for Psychology and spirituality makes more sense. But we all have to respect others opinions (their religion) but we don't have to agree and go along with it. We are all one and all Divine beings that came here to love more and experience our lives freely and connect to our Divine selves. We are all one consciousness but not alot of beings know this because of religious doctrines. Spiritual people go within to connect with God and cosmic consciousness, and religion is more of do what I say or God will punish you, and other religions or spirituality is the Devil. Religion leads people away from God telling them to get to know God (makes no sense), while Spirituality is finding God in all of creation and beings, plants animals...etc, showing compassion for all and not judging anyone becausewe are all one consciousness...Also, "hell" is made up to scare people and forces them to go to church or else God will send you to hell...Religion keeps putting fears and lies into people not bringing them closer to anything except the fear of God.
Come back to Jesus … only he can save you
@@SpeeAD what do you mean come back. Who said anyone left?
@@taiyliahify this is a whole complete entire though based on experience and your story.
This wholeness in your story I so so so appreciate. 🙌
Spirituality is getting in touch with your own soul and with God. It’s also a path of self growth and awareness and HEALING. That’s how many “spiritual” people, once healed, can easily read someone’s energy and know who to bypass and know who to allow into their world.
Soooooo sooo true, the key word here is healing. I couldnt agree more. Wild to me that there are those that believe in religion that while on earth we don
t heal - we just sit and suffer the entire time. Like thats the goal in itself. I literally 100% don't get it. I don't
Also be careful of people who claim to be spiritual but not religious! We need both
Hmmmm…. What do we NEED religion for if we have spirituality?
@@tiffanylargie3861 it depends on what you mean by religious. Do you mean engaging in the man-made rituals and behavior sets most commonly performed in religious environments (see the Catholic Church) or being fully inline with YWVH and following the natural laws he’s set out for us? Yeshua was against religious practice but all for being close to God and living a spirit driven life. His apostles set up churches that look very different from the ones we have today. It seems like a lot of modern churches are meant to keep you from thinking and growing spiritually. If people are following the rituals and thinking they are getting somewhere they are messing themselves up. The church rituals can help to keep your focus on the Lord and spirit, and being spiritual can help you understand the Lord. Both together are a big help in having a good life, but the spiritual aspect matters more I think.
You were pretty vague in your video tho so idk what aspects exactly you commented on.
@@charmingyoutuber2408 what is YWVH? First question. Yes the spiritual is 100% what I am referring to - man made has some benefits but I can think of five or six other institutions that help as guardarles for life that don’t have a deep seat in manipulation.
That’s really it right there. Manipulation and fear as the driving factor.
@@tiffanylargie3861 Yahweh, the name of our Creator according to the Christian faith.
I agree. To be in Christ is to exist without fear or anxiety. There’s no need for shame or guilt.
As an example, Roman Catholicism LOVES to do the opposite of what the Bible teaches. They misrepresent scripture and keep people from truly understanding what it’s trying to teach them. Their traditions are hollow and completely man-made, and many of them are expressly forbidden in scripture. But eh.
In truth, as far as religion is supposed to go you are really only meant to have a community of likeminded folks discussing their spiritual experiences as a family. None of the pomp, the golden crowns, the confession booths, or communions will do anything real for your spirit and your connection to our Creator.
@@charmingyoutuber2408 firstly jesus was an idol and that’s not spirituality what you’re doing is a sneaky covert way to promote religion. Abrahamic religions go against spirituality and free thinking and free thinking=spirituality, while Christianity+Abrahamic faiths=mindless worship aka religion promotion of that in anyway church rituals to keep focus on the lord and the spirit is still a way religion mindless worship as that’s what the Christian religion rituals are meant to do. We don’t need to spiritually understand a degenerate god. What you’re doing is a sneaky evangelical thing to get ppl back into church and mindless religion. The lord ain’t help nobody yet.
I choose to just live happily and to tolerate others religious and spiritual beliefs. 😊
Question. When you say tolerate, do you mena accept them all and live with them all? Or allow their rules to override some of what you do to maintain the peace.
I graduated from religion years ago. I was led into spirituality by THE MOST HIGH. TMH started teaching me. Many asks "who taught you so much wisdom?" I always reply "The universal Father aka THE MOST HIGH, aka The CREATOR who created the GODS, THE MOST HIGH TAUGHT ME, NOT MAN!" 💯❤️❤️❤️❤️
I LOVE this perspective.... " I GRADUATED from religion." That's a whole statement ma'am! A whole statement in itself.
Amen 😊
It's a whole wild truth - one that's hard to argue.
I pray to God to help me create my own temporary reality, the reality were i am genuinely happy
What makes you unhappy now or rather what would you create in this reality of yours?
The Borgia infoced those doctrines on to people
Who or what is the Borgia?
This is why i left my home church too...and joined holy spirit filled church.
I soooooo get this. It's like when you grow up and you start saying... wait what? This is wrong... or that don't make sense. Then you realize that religion is on the surface and you wanted to feel on the inside this is where spirituality comes in.
This is a one way route to heresy
This is actually a one-way route to fact and experience through my story, which can't be argued. The idea may be, but my story, which is the foundation of this, you can't.
I mean I just came to hear what you had to say but you didn’t even really breakdown the differences or point out what is spiritual. You just said it’s different don’t be tricked.
Oh... but I did. 100%. Watch it again.
@@tiffanylargie3861You did 🙏 my bad
Y’all do know majority of Bible is written in Africa right ?
And therefor… tell me what that means?
Humans were spiritual beings first before any religion was created. Riddle me this ? What were humans doing before the existence of the Bible and religion?
@@Dynastithegoddess making up their own Gods or worshiping the true God they listened from their ancestors Adam and Eve…. Like Noah … the Bible starts with “in the beginning” so is important to note that the Bible was writing from time of creation
@@SpeeAD The Bible isn’t the beginning of religion, in fact there were many religions before Christianity.
Do you know what they were doing before that time? It sounds like you might know?
@@Dynastithegoddess
So what is it
What is the difference between religion and .... is that what you are asking?
Cope
Cope 👀
We are suppose to suffer, we ain't here on this world to have fun and play around and do what makes YOU happy and what makes YOU feel better about your wrong doings or whatever you feel guilty about.
Me? I'm very happy, as happy as I can get cause I love God and I will offer up my works/joys and sufferings to him. Why? Because when Jesus was born and walked the Earth he did just that. Our own God became man to suffer like us and to be human. He did all of that for us to go and beg God to forgive us as unworthy worms that bathe in the filth that is the sea of sin. You seem to have it wrong, it's good to suffer, cause Christ did so we must. Now the suffering isn't constant, sometimes when hardships come we accept and thank God for them, he reminds us our place.
I get that other religions and pagan beliefs say the same but who a d whre did they come from first? God the idea of God and what the Isrealites have said, the devil likes to copy God, so he makes up these fake God's and religions to distract and lead away. They say they have a hell and heaven but that's the scam of the devil.
This is the age of apostasy, there will only be few believers of the true faith. The end of the fifth age. The world is filled with many lies.
If you really think the idea of God is dangerous well you are just playing in the thread of time cause this was foretold. All of this whatvis happening now. End of religion and idea of God and that goes for any God not the one true God, oh yes the false God's exist but they are devils. They would rather you not believe if they can't get you to hate the true believers which are Catholics. The end of catholicism is near; the hurches are being destroyed and Christians are being persecuted. Not Like the churches nowadays follow the old ways but still. These are the signs. This was all foretold, WWIII, Russia will invade Europe, civilizations in the Americas will be destroyed by their own. The new world order. Satan will present himself through people. The bad pope. This is all suppose to happen. The world must be cleansed. The rapture isn't real though. Ohh no we Catholics that still hang on to the faith will suffer too cause we are guilty of sin.
Are you seriously trying to get me to see or agree that suffering is good.
There is nothing I do mean nothing good about suffering. Nothing. If sucks. All of it.
@@tiffanylargie3861 it's ok to have fun and do what makes you happy but suffering will come no matter what. You offer it all up to God.
Your works, joys and sufferings to him. If you don't.. then it's all meaningless
@@Jokerman5474 Yes it will come indeed. :)
@@Jokerman5474if your god wants you to suffer it means he’s evil.
@@theghostofumarskoolishere.4632 Good times create weak men, hard times create strong and good men. Especially when that man accepts God's trials and thanks him for it. It strengthens our soul, it means he's thinking of you. If you don't suffer and have a good time on earth then your with the devil and already had a reward and pleasures on earth. Suffering is what we have to pay for our sins. Could be work, sickness, loved one dying, losing a job, getting in a bad car crash. All suffering that God allows for our sins to be more forgivable. People who only think about themselves only do good for themselves, only want to feel good and hate God because he is reality who allows bad things to happen because his people sin and offend him. People who the devil dnt gotta worry about dragging to hell with him cause they are already doomed.
It is a difference between religion and relationship with God
Such a difference but so many people wrap them up together, they are not good wrapped... they are dangerous.
Facts ppl energy’s are so toxic and gone that they use these imagination characters of the past instead of right now 🤦🏾♂️ like I got done talking to dude about this but something told me to shut up and cut the conversation off and keep moving
Sometimes you HAVE to shut up and keep it moving. You will lose your mind if you don't you will 100% put yourself in a tough place if you don't. You'll get trapped and upset and vexed with no win for you. You alwasy deserve the win, even if it is just peace in your mind.
Religion is full of pride, and spirituality is based in surrender
There are soooo many mystics, that go to church and don't claim the religion and doctrines. Learn the ways of your opposition
@@amyj.4992 mystics… u haven’t heard that word in a minute. What do you call a mystic? What is that?
What do you think we are surrendering to?
The Jehovah’s Witnesses organization explained in a nutshell. 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
WHOOOOOAAAA thats a whole statement in it self. Yes I would actually agree with this. I would agree. Yup. Is there any othter that this reminds you of?
I believe hell is exist but I can't say it out loud because it might be dangerous, I don't believe we can go to hell and be eternally damned, cursed, punished in there just because we are not Christian. that's what confuse me about religion
You're waking up. That's where it starts. Isn't that such a dumb concept??? That you can be doomed to an ETERNAL damnation worse than what's here on earth SIMPLY because you didn't buy into some doctrine that, frankly, doesn't make sense. 😂
Like, what if you were born in a country where a different religion is the "official" standard (like Islam or something else)? Maybe that's what your entire family and community believes in (or maybe they left it up to you to decide!) and you go along to get along, or because that's all you know.
I was raised strictly Christian and I always had too many questions that couldn't be answered. When I went away to college, I made friends with other students from all over the world and they had varying beliefs, but were some of the most loving people that I'd ever met.
I decided then for sure that "holiness" and trying to shove my indoctrination down someone else's throat was not for me. I literally just had a 'friend' stop speaking to me because I refuse to be manipulated into believing that I should be barefoot, pregnant and the 'first lady' of somebody's church. 🤣 I pray that everyone is at peace with whatever they choose to believe.
There's a verse in the bible that pretty much tells people to stay close to God you must stay away from religion
I know there is a difference between being Christian and simply being disconnected. I think religión disconnects us from the truth. All of it.
@@tiffanylargie3861 it does, religion without spirituality is deadddd, God's supernatural power of healing, redeeming and reveal is necessary
Hell is fake it was made up by the church to control the masses the Torah never speaks of hell or the devil.
It’s not the same … we catching the Spirit of Christ … they catching the spirit of the Devil
Are they though catching two different spirits?
@@tiffanylargie3861 evil spirit vs Holy Spirit … most of y’all can’t tell the difference bcuz the word HOLY DOESNT RESONATE IN YALL
@@SpeeAD I grew up in the church, part of the leadership team and all of the things. It resonates all of it, so does the truth.
@@tiffanylargie3861 growing up in the Church means literally NOTHING AT ALL I spent 15 years in church and read the whole Bible and rejected Christianity… then I got Older … grew wiser… and actually studied and realize Jesus is the Truth… the Bible is the Truth… regardless of what u think
@@SpeeAD I hear you. I do. The Bible and the Church are two totally different things. Just like the Holy Spirit that you feel inside of you. All three totally different.
Agreed
It's just a simple truth - a simple simple truth.