I just learned the most broken ability in the game is cold snap. When you stagger an enemy, if you cold snap them their stagger bar stays paused. You can basically infinitely cold snap them into supers as they regenerate. You can delete enemies using this once they've been staggered.
It freezes every enemy. The actual invulnerability window is about the same as a normal dodge and it takes you out of range of most attacks if you use it right, and most enemies have at least one attack which is easy enough to read to make it basically free. It's definitely up there, though zantetsuken makes normal enemies so painless while also shining during stagger enough that I don't think I can say it's the absolute best.
My build before getting Odin: -Titan: Will of the Wisps / Lightning Rod (Defense & Stagger) -Garuda: Raging Fists / Heatwave (Counters) -Bahamut: Windup / Gigaflare (Heavy Hitters) After getting Odin: Shiva: Rift Slip / Diamond Dust (Cold Snap to freeze Stagger) Odin: Lightning Rod / Dancing Steel (Pull off 2-3 Zantetsuken on Staggered Bosses) Bahamut: Flames of Rebirth / Gigaflare (Long animation for Cooldowns)
The second build is great but if you use lighting rod plus dancing steel you can get two level 5 zants in a single rotation because the lightning rod counts as a second hit, plus rift slip is incredibly useful for elongating the stager window as if your timing is right you can slow down time giving you more time to do more damage but otherwise good builds overall.
I just recently got the plat, I just ran phoenix, Odin, and garuda, with rebirth, diamond dust, mega flare, dancing swords, judgement bolt, and whatever the Titan ult is. All ults, all the time. Blew everything up had tons of fun. I’m sure there’s more efficient builds, but just going crazy with ults was fun. Clive feels like a monster.
Appreciate the shoutout boss! Always fun getting into the numbers on this kind of stuff. Great vid and great little berserker ring transitions! I liked that.
Every move has either alright attack damage OR stagger damage. There aren't any 'really cool looking moves" which have only 1 star in BOTH attack AND stagger. You need BOTH TYPES of moves. Maybe you don't quite understand how it works. Above the move there are two ratings, out of five stars. The first, is attack damage or just simply "damage". The SECOND, is stagger. Or, HOW QUICKLY that ability STAGGERS the enemy. When the battle starts out, it makes sense to use abilities which do not do much damage. (Have a low attack rating, the FIRST rating) Once an enemy, or a group of enemies, are staggered, it then makes sense to switch to abilities which have LOW STAGGER (the SECOND star rating), as they probably have HIGH ATTACK. So, if you're playing properly, you are more than capable of using all the abilities in the game that you want, all the way through the game, and they're ALL either doing attack damage OR staggering the enemies. Therefore what you said, it doesn't make any sense. It sounds more like you're just a bit confused as to how to read when to use each attack.
@@JimmymatthewbI think you need to relax and let people play how they wish to. You can use any ability you want and as long as you know how your opponents fight then you can win, period.
I do the same thing. I really don't care about how much damage I'm outputting, I just want to use the attacks that feel fitting to me. I've literally sold every accessory that buffs damage to eikon abilities and am keeping all the ones that reduce cool down. Like heat wave for example, if you can consistently have it charged then you can always dispel and counter enemy magic, which does AMAZING stagger damage.
Am I the only one who hasn't been able to drop Phoenix because of the convenience of Phoenix Shift? Especially when I'm using the Berserker Ring which often leaves Clive out of range for a follow-up after a dodge, and doesn't have the distance-closing counter you can do when not using the ring. Also I still use Ignition to quickly dispatch groups of enemies (not that basic enemies are ever really a threat in this game). It's a terrible ability for bosses given you can't cancel it, and can get hit during it. Time to switch up the build.
Try and drop the phoenix and instead use the upgraded normal thrust ability. It closes distance quite quickly, almost the same distance as the ability.
Unh, phoenix shift is useless bro. I can just use the normal thurst ability to close the same distance. Plus, Garuda for grabbing enemies from afar and toppling them. So yeah, you are literally using one slot for a useless ability. Get Shiva, Garuda and Odin.
Ignition is overpowered, just like Will o Wisps. I like the Wisps+Lightning Rod combo actually. Ignition gets old fast. I mean, really, phoenix shift and ignition? Lmao "just started playing the game" build xD
Love these builds, they seem to be the only ones that give Titan the respect it deserves. I would love to see your Leviathan and Ultima builds (and if you keep Titan in :) )
My current one that ive been used to for a bit is Odin Dancing Steel/Lightning Rod Shiva Diamond Dust/Impulse Garuda WotW/Heatwave Lightning Rod plus Dancing Steel is nuts since every hit Dancing Steel lands after you use Lightning Rod adds to the Zantetsuken gauge. Add the accessory that gives you a +25% to Dancing Steel and you can easily get 2 level 5 Zantetsuken off in one stagger The combo of WotW/lightning rod and impulse melts the stagger bar. Lightning rod i usually pop right before the stagger bar fully fills to help with dancing steel Then once you get the full bar you pop diamond dust, lv5 Zantetsuken, dancing steel then another lv5 Zantetsuken and the health bars melt
I'm currently at The Free Cities of Kanver and farming the heck out of it for EXP and AP before proceeding further so as to maximise the farming there. Haven't gotten Shiva as yet so using the Build 1 Variation build 6:15 . It's working out quite nicely so far. When I do get Shiva I intend to use preferred Build 1. Thanks for sharing this wonderful build and variations. Cheers. Liked and Subscribed.
Unless you enjoy it (which is understandable as the combat is fun) there’s no real need or benefit to farming in this game. I’ve completed it twice & got the Platinum and in both playthroughs I sprinted to every objective on the chocobo avoiding random enemy encounters lol
@@F56JCW I disagree. Farming was very necessary to be able to not only gain valuable extra levels but also as valuable AP to upgrade and maximise every single Eikon and ability I needed and have excees to fully the last two following what was obtainable up to that point in the game. Trophies are neither here nor there with me. EXP and able to fully upgrade stuff is more important IMO and serves you better.
I use Phoenix/Shiva/X mostly. I have variations upon variations for every other one of the 5 that I could slot in with the two of them but it I mostly still to that format of loadout. I used Phoenix/Shiva/Garuda by the end of the game, but my best burst (229k) has been with Phoenix/Shiva/Odin. It depends on what you want to focus on more really, having more variety or having a super powerful stagger burst. Endgame loadout: Phoenix: Windup/Thunderstorm Shiva: Impulse/Diamond Dust Garuda: Judgment Bolt/Gigaflare My "Vergil" build, as I call it for FF Mode is (I'm super early and only have NG stuff so this is doable before the end of the first playthrough): Phoenix: Lightning Rod/Satellite Shiva: Rift Slip/Diamond Dust Odin: Dancing Steel/Gigaflare
If you're going with Odin build I think it's super important to have rift slip because that also freezes time (and the stagger bar). Plus, the rift slip time freeze lasts about the same time as the Dancing Steel charge up animation basically nullifying whatever time is potentially lost. Plus, doing it with cold snap also extends the stagger pause time. There's videos showing this in TH-cam that demonstrates this as well. Gungnir looks cool but its absolutely useless unless you're using Will of the Wikes with it since you're still vulnerable and time still keeps going during the entire animation. It also builds Zan meter way more slowly compared to Dancing Steel.
The best build is this when you can master abilities: Odin with Zansetsuken and lightning Rod. Garuda with Gouge and Will-o-the-whisp Bahumut with Gigaflare and Diamond dust Start every battle with will-o-the-whisp, change to Bahumut and turn on Wings of Light. Master dodging all enemy attacks and trigger level 4 megaflare. Immediately release diamond dust (assuming you're close to the enemy), enemy should be semi-staggered (if not, hit it a few times or let megaflare do its thing), hit deadly embrace to do deadly take down, gouge will take them down to almost staggered, turn on will-o-the-whisp again, once staggered, immediately turn on limit break and hit Gigaflare, switch to Oden and turn on arms of darkness, drop lightning Rod, and do dancing steel. While dancing steel is hitting, hold your attack button to prep Zansetsuken. Once Clive's animation finishes the second sword swing at the end of dancing steel, release and tap attack to trigger Zansetsuken. You should still have a bit of stagger left, turn on gouge or will-o-the-whisp and hit diamond dust once they are out of stagger to retrigger semi-stagger. This is the bets build I've made and you should try it out. I've also seen builds where people can do 3 Zansetsukens in one rotation but I haven't gone that crazy yet. Have fun!
I love how Garuda and titans abilities pair. My guilty pleasure is using either her claw, or wicked wheel if it’s not on cool-down right into titans upheaval as it has auto charge up when in the air. The combo does great stagger and is fast to activate follow it up with any quick ability on the ground like rising flame or windup nice combo. I’ve leaned away for wil-o-wykes as it make me just spam stuff and not learn to dodge/move around the damage immunity is a little strong
Shiva rime plus lightning rod is extremely good passive, and Shiva abilities have the lowest cool down for still good effects, and since cold snap is a must feat to have, it's relatively cheap to have her abilities. I don't like having two feats that need a charge, so I would honestly pick *either* Odin or Bahamut, but tbh I'd pick Odin based on the fact that mega flare isn't always worth the work it takes to build it (but it's definitely the most fun feat to use IMO). Windup is a most on nearly every build. Multi-hit, excellent damage, low recharge time
Late but don’t care, comments help the algo, so, again with the meticulous attention to detail and cutting of fat, straight to the point…… another f**king banger. And I don’t even agree on the first build being best and this is STILL a 10/10 lmfao. Peace bro
Nice one ArKTix. I clocked level 100 yesterday, but this video is still a fun watch. My chief source of WILL damage comes from Bahamut's ability impulse. Everything else in my loadout is geared towards inflicting loads of damage. DiamondDust (multiplier), Judgement Bolt, GigaFlare, Odin, Windup, rinse, repeat.
My build for most of my game Shiva - impulse, Diamond dust Titan - will of the whisps, rhine Garuda - rising flame, lighting bolt Mostly use Garuda for pulling enemies down and pulling enemies back when I hit them away, Titan for titanic block on bosses, shiva cold snap for mobs and Diamond dust for mobs and quick stagger
An easy farming for ability points is the start of "The Free Cities of Kanver". Complete the first three waves of enemies, then open the map and jump to any other area. Then jump back to Kanver, rinse and repeat. This works much much faster if the have the "Wages of Warcraft" accessory equipped. Do this for an hour or two and you'll have more than enough to max out all the abilities. Enjoy
I think the only set Final Fantasy mode Eikon is Odin since Zantetsuken is just a must for all smaller trashmobs if you don't want to take forever to kill them. And I just can't really part with the phoenix shift since it's just so nice to get around the field. And yes you can use lunge for it bit it isn't as far as the shift. And shift is great to enable mortal blows. It's just whenever I get rid of phoenix I miss it :D
I JUST got to Ash in my NG+ Final Fantasy mode playthrough. For the WHOLE run, I've been rocking Shiva (Will-o'-the-Wykes and Judgment Bolt), Bahamut (Impulse and Gigaflare), and Odin (Dancing Steel and Diamond Dust). I originally ran Lightning Rod instead of Judgment Bolt, but it seemed just so slow without a ton of DPS for it justify itself. HOWEVER, as much as I LOVE Megaflare it is also REALLY slow; I'm thinking of swapping Bahamut for Garuda, for that added height and mobility.
My favorite was shivas perfect dodge freeze then go into odens dancing steel then rip slip out into charged attack level5 man that does alot of damage for a free combo and if you have level 5 already up i believe you can get 2 in one perfect dodge freeze. Shiva,odin,phoenix
I am at Drake's Breathe, playing in NG+ FF Mode. I have tried 35 times to beat the Boss, but though I get its bar close to defeating it, I die. I've tried many builds. Could you recommend a build to defeat this boss???? The boss looks like a ball with a ton of tentacles, and during the fight, more single ones that look like fingers pop up too. Clive makes a joke saying, "Don't these things have roots?"
My current combo for stagger combo: Build: Phoenix: Diamond Dust / Lightning Rod Odin: Rift Slip / Dancing Steel Bahamut: Judgement Bolt / Gigaflare Charge a Lv 5 Zan Order once staggered: - Phoenix Shift to be right in front, - Diamond Dust to get the 1.5, Lightning Rod (Switch to Odin while animation is going on and hold Attack). - When the Rod is placed use your left hand to press Circle to switch to Gungnir, release LV5 Zan. - Once the last hit is done, Rift Slip and Dancing Steel. (Due to the Dance hitting the Rod as well, you get a guaranteed LV5 Zan w/o needing any other equipment.) - Rift Slip out after getting LV5 Zan and hold onto attack. Release second Zan (switch to Bahamut while it is going on.) - Gigaflare once end of Zan. - End with Judgement Bolt. At level 45 equipped with the weapon prior to Ultima Weapon, that is upwards of 200k damage. Most mobs below mark rank S Class should fall in a single stagger
Could swap Phoenix with Shiva. Her Cold Snaps freezes Stagger and lets you pull off 2-3 Zantetsuken. This is most broken build but gets boring and repetitive.
@@blue-phoenix115 yea i tried that but I felt that although using Shiva to freeze and await cooldowns can optimize damage, it felt to me like a chore and ultimately went with the above set-up since battles are usually over soon after the above combo. I am also more used to using Phoenix shift for trash mobs and just ain't good enough to perform permafrost in an optimal manner. The game blew me away at the start ngl, but after hours of it, I have to admit things are starting feel dull and repetitive. The crafting and customisation really seems a bit shallow as compared to other FFs
@@ErdingerLi yeah after doing NG+ it does feel the battle feels the same, but i like that FF mode is actually more challenging than action-focused i'm actually blown away to find out that people has their own build for endgame abilities also it is such a BIG miss opportunity with their gear customization to at least have a passive abilities for enhancing abilities or other moves and accessories able to combine with other effects, idk why they are not going for that type of customization
@@rexxel8867 It truly felt like they met halfway between both being an Action game and an RPG. I was pretty much burned out from even wanting to do an NG+ because the crafting and MMO-ish sidequests were too boring. I will say the story and the Eikon cutscene battles were super mindblowing and amazing to be fair. But other than that, the replayability for this game is really not there for me. Happy that you are having a great time! I truly quite enjoyed the story and explosive Eikon fights 🖖🏻
@@ErdingerLi the reason i did NG+ with FF mode is because i commit to plat the game and also curious. My current FF mode playthrough i only go straight to the main quest while skipping all side contents, to my surprise it did give me challenge at least starting after Clive became Cid is where i feel the game is challenging. I died once on akashic morbol fight and against titan i almost died and out of recovery abilities too even some fights gives 2 enemies with Will gauge at the same time which makes it way more engaging than the first playthrough i low key wish FF mode difficulty is the normal difficulty or action-focused, while story-mode as is, maybe i would have a different impression and so for other people 😅
right now my eikon list is up to bahamut. i have Phoenix + WoW, lightning rod, Garuda + gouge, wicked wheel, Titan + windup, gigaflare. cant wait to get Bahamut so I can expand more and finally get my hands on Zantetsuken 😀
You could spend a couple of mins or an hour in Kanver (just the first 2 group lf enemies) before clearing the mission to gain a couple of thousand AP. It will be more than enough to max all regular skills ans upgrade the more expensive ones. If you really like to grind do this for 1 to 2 hours and max everything. You shouldnt need any points for the rest of the game.
This definitely worked I did this and have everything maxed out. I was already upgrading before reaching that point in game but definitely will get you what you need to max everything
Diamond dust to lower stagger bar, once staggered cold snap ad infinitum and reuse refreshed Diamond dust. Holding any abilities is not optimal for dps.
I really went through 90% of the game not realizing you could do/upgrade any of this. Got to Barnabas and just gave up bc I couldn't kill him. Maybe I should go back now...
Rate my build: 1. Cold snap, Heatwave, Diamond dust 2. Arms of Darkness, Raging fist, Dancing steel 3. Wings of light, Lightning rod, Gigaflare Start with cold snap into permafrost then dancing steel + maybe a few arms of Darkness hits to charge up Zantetsuken to level 5. Use heatwave vs enemy ranged attacks and raging fists vs enemy melee attacks to bring down the will bar. Diamond dust can also be used here. Once enemy is staggered use lightning rod, Diamond dust, Gigaflare and Zantetsuken to deal damage.. I consistently get above 110,000 stagger damage at level 47 If the enemy lives, use wings of light till all abilities recharge n build up that megaflare.. Repeat all when abilities are recharged Both heatwave and raging fists are replaceable..
Is there a good build that uses at least one ability from every eikon? I like the idea of one that feels like the final boss moment when all eikons are used against ultima.
I pretty much went fully into odins stuff became it was dope as fuck. I took will o wikes the bahmut things that fly around and the lightning rod. I dont know if it was "good" but god DAMN was it fun.
When making builds I like to use only 1 abilty for smaller enemies (wicked wheel of piledriver mostly) since with deadly embrace or pheonix shift most small mobs dont pose much of a challange. The rest of my abilities are for big stagger damage (diamond dust, dancing steel, gigaflare and lightning rod) or utility (rift slip and will o wykes) The main thing is cold snap and zantetsuken tho. These feats are too good
You get that cinematic dodge from an accessory item called “Berserker Ring”. It increases attack proficiency with each precision dodge. I can’t remember where you get it from.
Odin: Dance of Steel, Judgement Bolt Garuda: Lightning Rod, Will-o'-the-Wykes Shiva: Diamond Dust, Giga Flare is this a possible build in the first playthrough?
Mine is just phoenix, garuda and then lighting guy ( i forgot his name) i do pheonix uppercut thing, then switch garuda do the knife ching chang thing to stagger, then i go back to pheonix and do fire hell thing or whatever and then it stagger then i do lighting blast from the heavens (i also forgot the name) then i other lighting shockwave, then switch to hell transformation flame swrod thing and boom boom boom then i do tornado from garuda, and hope the other abilities by that time have regenerated (which they prolly havent) then repeat. The reasons this build is amazing (trash?) Is because its mid game and im no where near finishing it.
Arktix I found a great tip that makes you get quick draw on sharp shot bows by sliding all you need to do is start a slide and right at the start of the slide draw your sharp shot bow really quick and you will get quick draw I hade no draw speed coils or perks while doing this I talked about on your discord
What are you even maxing with your “current build”…? That build is cheap, lacks stronger available skills, and you’re selecting garuda and NOT using aerial blast in a STAGGER build…? And using weak ass titan abilities over judgment bolt? I’d assume you didn’t have the ability points for a better build, but then I see you’ve got limit break maxed. I don’t get it.
I don’t even think you can call what you’re able to do in XVI a build per se. When I think of build I’m thinking stat allocation, equipment, then maybe what moves you are allowed to equip. Equipment is basically pointless since there is no variety at all, simply the largest numbers you can get from msq equipment. Then the other choice is the eikon abilities. There just isn’t enough room to build much of anything, you’re just picking which moves you like the best and when that’s all the choice you have I don’t think that’s a build, just optimization. When I think build I think of a play style too, but here you play the exact same outside of those Eikon abilities.
I'm sorry, but deadly embrace is borderline useless and the people who think it's top level shit are insane. Top tier (strictly talking the eikonic feat, not their cooldowns) is either shiva or odin. Everything else is substantially lesser. I favor bahamut just because I like prepping it right before stagger (not even going to pretend that it's actually good, I just like seeing big numbers). Ramuh is almost useless, phoenix and titan are redundant to your core abilities, garuda is pretty much only useful for slightly speeding up killing a regular enemy, but you should be using zantetsuken to clear out large regular enemy waves anyway. Also, will of the wykes is cheap (as in low ap cost) and broken. It should be in every build, especially any rocking dancing steel.
I dont understand these "build" guides. This game isnt that difficult to need builds. Just like God of War Rag, all these videos about build guides make no sense. Normal enemies are push overs and you mostly just skip them. Bosses arent much tougher either to require a "build".
This game was a super easy plat, not difficult at all. Even though the story starts great, and there are great parts in the mid game story, all the side quests beside the chocobo suck. The end of the story fights are cool, but it feels too predictable without saying any spoilers. Also should be illegal to have a FF game with no mini games. I found myself getting so bored with the game too many times, it's basically just an interactive movie. The best part of the game besides the graphics are the hunts and the leveling system almost makes you feel like you aren't playing a FF game, i understand you can call a game an RPG just by having a character with a developing story, but you have zero say in everything. It's not what you would call an RPG in the traditional sense, its more of an action game than anything else. The stores are useless, and pretty much the blacksmith is just linear and boring. Im also not a fan of chapters, it worked in 10 but not here, open world is always better. Overall I'm just disappointed in this game. Graphics (10, gorgeous), story (8, had more potential), gameplay (4, too easy), leveling system (2, boring), side quests (0, pointless), extras (0, non existent). The game is sadly a 4.5/10. I had so much expectations, and was let down at every corner, only to see a glimer of something that was potentially more, only to be let down again. If we are be real, the game looks gorgeous, and that's it, it's one of the most shallow FF games ever made. I would place this behind almost all FF games except 13. FF15 seems like it was light years ahead of this game even though it's 7 years older and was cut short for time. Never going to pick this game up again, it felt like a chore just to get the plat, where usually it's more fun.
📊Eikonic Feat & Abilities Cost Spreadsheet: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-EpMXjKqKcl7pB99LFpRGiK8mQKVj3gOnCevD4XPJO4/edit?usp=sharing
✅FF16 Combat Essentials: th-cam.com/video/U4uFxZaUvOQ/w-d-xo.html
@ArktikOfficial I am in NG+, FF Mode, and I am having trouble with the 1st boss you encounter at Drake's Breath. What is a good build against it?
I just learned the most broken ability in the game is cold snap. When you stagger an enemy, if you cold snap them their stagger bar stays paused. You can basically infinitely cold snap them into supers as they regenerate. You can delete enemies using this once they've been staggered.
I love it, I literally just spam cold snap until my abilities recharge for the second zan
Shiva is the best Eikon for abilities
It freezes every enemy. The actual invulnerability window is about the same as a normal dodge and it takes you out of range of most attacks if you use it right, and most enemies have at least one attack which is easy enough to read to make it basically free. It's definitely up there, though zantetsuken makes normal enemies so painless while also shining during stagger enough that I don't think I can say it's the absolute best.
I'm sure there's a patch coming for cold snap! Let's us enjoy this while we can lol!
@@VentusLionheart I think it’s very intentional. Just not the best idea. Let’s see if they do decided to change it.
My build before getting Odin:
-Titan: Will of the Wisps / Lightning Rod (Defense & Stagger)
-Garuda: Raging Fists / Heatwave (Counters)
-Bahamut: Windup / Gigaflare (Heavy Hitters)
After getting Odin:
Shiva: Rift Slip / Diamond Dust (Cold Snap to freeze Stagger)
Odin: Lightning Rod / Dancing Steel (Pull off 2-3 Zantetsuken on Staggered Bosses)
Bahamut: Flames of Rebirth / Gigaflare (Long animation for Cooldowns)
Need to try the second build
The second build is great but if you use lighting rod plus dancing steel you can get two level 5 zants in a single rotation because the lightning rod counts as a second hit, plus rift slip is incredibly useful for elongating the stager window as if your timing is right you can slow down time giving you more time to do more damage but otherwise good builds overall.
Thanks! I agree those are great combos/builds as well! And yeah rift slip is definitely useful.
I just recently got the plat, I just ran phoenix, Odin, and garuda, with rebirth, diamond dust, mega flare, dancing swords, judgement bolt, and whatever the Titan ult is. All ults, all the time. Blew everything up had tons of fun. I’m sure there’s more efficient builds, but just going crazy with ults was fun. Clive feels like a monster.
Appreciate the shoutout boss!
Always fun getting into the numbers on this kind of stuff.
Great vid and great little berserker ring transitions! I liked that.
Thanks man! Glad you liked those transitions 😁
As much as i enjoy building big stagger dmg, i might finish the game with coolest moves with lower dmg bcs the combat is just so fun to look at.
Every move has either alright attack damage OR stagger damage. There aren't any 'really cool looking moves" which have only 1 star in BOTH attack AND stagger.
You need BOTH TYPES of moves.
Maybe you don't quite understand how it works.
Above the move there are two ratings, out of five stars. The first, is attack damage or just simply "damage".
The SECOND, is stagger. Or, HOW QUICKLY that ability STAGGERS the enemy.
When the battle starts out, it makes sense to use abilities which do not do much damage. (Have a low attack rating, the FIRST rating)
Once an enemy, or a group of enemies, are staggered, it then makes sense to switch to abilities which have LOW STAGGER (the SECOND star rating), as they probably have HIGH ATTACK.
So, if you're playing properly, you are more than capable of using all the abilities in the game that you want, all the way through the game, and they're ALL either doing attack damage OR staggering the enemies.
Therefore what you said, it doesn't make any sense. It sounds more like you're just a bit confused as to how to read when to use each attack.
@@Jimmymatthewbyou typed all that 😂
@@JimmymatthewbI think you need to relax and let people play how they wish to. You can use any ability you want and as long as you know how your opponents fight then you can win, period.
I do the same thing. I really don't care about how much damage I'm outputting, I just want to use the attacks that feel fitting to me. I've literally sold every accessory that buffs damage to eikon abilities and am keeping all the ones that reduce cool down. Like heat wave for example, if you can consistently have it charged then you can always dispel and counter enemy magic, which does AMAZING stagger damage.
Am I the only one who hasn't been able to drop Phoenix because of the convenience of Phoenix Shift? Especially when I'm using the Berserker Ring which often leaves Clive out of range for a follow-up after a dodge, and doesn't have the distance-closing counter you can do when not using the ring.
Also I still use Ignition to quickly dispatch groups of enemies (not that basic enemies are ever really a threat in this game). It's a terrible ability for bosses given you can't cancel it, and can get hit during it. Time to switch up the build.
Try and drop the phoenix and instead use the upgraded normal thrust ability. It closes distance quite quickly, almost the same distance as the ability.
Unh, phoenix shift is useless bro. I can just use the normal thurst ability to close the same distance. Plus, Garuda for grabbing enemies from afar and toppling them. So yeah, you are literally using one slot for a useless ability. Get Shiva, Garuda and Odin.
Ignition is overpowered, just like Will o Wisps. I like the Wisps+Lightning Rod combo actually. Ignition gets old fast.
I mean, really, phoenix shift and ignition? Lmao "just started playing the game" build xD
You can cancel ignition. Press x
After a berserker ring dodge I usually do melee button + jump button to close the gap.
Love these builds, they seem to be the only ones that give Titan the respect it deserves. I would love to see your Leviathan and Ultima builds (and if you keep Titan in :) )
My current loadout is
Bahamut - Raging Fists, Will O The Wykes
Odin - Dancing Steel, upheaval
Shiva - Diamond Dust, Giga Glare
My current one that ive been used to for a bit is
Odin Dancing Steel/Lightning Rod
Shiva Diamond Dust/Impulse
Garuda WotW/Heatwave
Lightning Rod plus Dancing Steel is nuts since every hit Dancing Steel lands after you use Lightning Rod adds to the Zantetsuken gauge. Add the accessory that gives you a +25% to Dancing Steel and you can easily get 2 level 5 Zantetsuken off in one stagger
The combo of WotW/lightning rod and impulse melts the stagger bar. Lightning rod i usually pop right before the stagger bar fully fills to help with dancing steel
Then once you get the full bar you pop diamond dust, lv5 Zantetsuken, dancing steel then another lv5 Zantetsuken and the health bars melt
I'm currently at The Free Cities of Kanver and farming the heck out of it for EXP and AP before proceeding further so as to maximise the farming there. Haven't gotten Shiva as yet so using the Build 1 Variation build 6:15 . It's working out quite nicely so far. When I do get Shiva I intend to use preferred Build 1. Thanks for sharing this wonderful build and variations. Cheers. Liked and Subscribed.
Unless you enjoy it (which is understandable as the combat is fun) there’s no real need or benefit to farming in this game. I’ve completed it twice & got the Platinum and in both playthroughs I sprinted to every objective on the chocobo avoiding random enemy encounters lol
@@F56JCW I disagree. Farming was very necessary to be able to not only gain valuable extra levels but also as valuable AP to upgrade and maximise every single Eikon and ability I needed and have excees to fully the last two following what was obtainable up to that point in the game.
Trophies are neither here nor there with me. EXP and able to fully upgrade stuff is more important IMO and serves you better.
I use Phoenix/Shiva/X mostly. I have variations upon variations for every other one of the 5 that I could slot in with the two of them but it I mostly still to that format of loadout. I used Phoenix/Shiva/Garuda by the end of the game, but my best burst (229k) has been with Phoenix/Shiva/Odin. It depends on what you want to focus on more really, having more variety or having a super powerful stagger burst.
Endgame loadout:
Phoenix:
Windup/Thunderstorm
Shiva:
Impulse/Diamond Dust
Garuda:
Judgment Bolt/Gigaflare
My "Vergil" build, as I call it for FF Mode is (I'm super early and only have NG stuff so this is doable before the end of the first playthrough):
Phoenix:
Lightning Rod/Satellite
Shiva:
Rift Slip/Diamond Dust
Odin:
Dancing Steel/Gigaflare
Curious on your first build what accessories you are using.
@@epicscarsbro5841 I used Genji Gloves, The Will Damage boost on Impulse, and the Berserker's Ring for my first build.
If you're going with Odin build I think it's super important to have rift slip because that also freezes time (and the stagger bar). Plus, the rift slip time freeze lasts about the same time as the Dancing Steel charge up animation basically nullifying whatever time is potentially lost. Plus, doing it with cold snap also extends the stagger pause time. There's videos showing this in TH-cam that demonstrates this as well.
Gungnir looks cool but its absolutely useless unless you're using Will of the Wikes with it since you're still vulnerable and time still keeps going during the entire animation. It also builds Zan meter way more slowly compared to Dancing Steel.
Yeah this guy is a noob. Rift slip is the best skill in the game.
The best build is this when you can master abilities:
Odin with Zansetsuken and lightning Rod.
Garuda with Gouge and Will-o-the-whisp
Bahumut with Gigaflare and Diamond dust
Start every battle with will-o-the-whisp, change to Bahumut and turn on Wings of Light. Master dodging all enemy attacks and trigger level 4 megaflare. Immediately release diamond dust (assuming you're close to the enemy), enemy should be semi-staggered (if not, hit it a few times or let megaflare do its thing), hit deadly embrace to do deadly take down, gouge will take them down to almost staggered, turn on will-o-the-whisp again, once staggered, immediately turn on limit break and hit Gigaflare, switch to Oden and turn on arms of darkness, drop lightning Rod, and do dancing steel.
While dancing steel is hitting, hold your attack button to prep Zansetsuken. Once Clive's animation finishes the second sword swing at the end of dancing steel, release and tap attack to trigger Zansetsuken. You should still have a bit of stagger left, turn on gouge or will-o-the-whisp and hit diamond dust once they are out of stagger to retrigger semi-stagger.
This is the bets build I've made and you should try it out. I've also seen builds where people can do 3 Zansetsukens in one rotation but I haven't gone that crazy yet. Have fun!
I love how Garuda and titans abilities pair. My guilty pleasure is using either her claw, or wicked wheel if it’s not on cool-down right into titans upheaval as it has auto charge up when in the air. The combo does great stagger and is fast to activate follow it up with any quick ability on the ground like rising flame or windup nice combo. I’ve leaned away for wil-o-wykes as it make me just spam stuff and not learn to dodge/move around the damage immunity is a little strong
Garuda would be like "Ugh"
Shiva rime plus lightning rod is extremely good passive, and Shiva abilities have the lowest cool down for still good effects, and since cold snap is a must feat to have, it's relatively cheap to have her abilities. I don't like having two feats that need a charge, so I would honestly pick *either* Odin or Bahamut, but tbh I'd pick Odin based on the fact that mega flare isn't always worth the work it takes to build it (but it's definitely the most fun feat to use IMO). Windup is a most on nearly every build. Multi-hit, excellent damage, low recharge time
Late but don’t care, comments help the algo, so, again with the meticulous attention to detail and cutting of fat, straight to the point…… another f**king banger. And I don’t even agree on the first build being best and this is STILL a 10/10 lmfao. Peace bro
Nice one ArKTix. I clocked level 100 yesterday, but this video is still a fun watch. My chief source of WILL damage comes from Bahamut's ability impulse. Everything else in my loadout is geared towards inflicting loads of damage. DiamondDust (multiplier), Judgement Bolt, GigaFlare, Odin, Windup, rinse, repeat.
at 8:38 for instance, why is your skill designated for R1 and R2? did you remap the controller?
My build for most of my game
Shiva - impulse, Diamond dust
Titan - will of the whisps, rhine
Garuda - rising flame, lighting bolt
Mostly use Garuda for pulling enemies down and pulling enemies back when I hit them away, Titan for titanic block on bosses, shiva cold snap for mobs and Diamond dust for mobs and quick stagger
An easy farming for ability points is the start of "The Free Cities of Kanver". Complete the first three waves of enemies, then open the map and jump to any other area. Then jump back to Kanver, rinse and repeat. This works much much faster if the have the "Wages of Warcraft" accessory equipped. Do this for an hour or two and you'll have more than enough to max out all the abilities. Enjoy
What build would you do if AP wasn't a limiting factor? Or is there a chance you will do a NG+ build video?
Love the videos and builds
I found this valuable so it’s going to be saved for later 👍🏻
I think the only set Final Fantasy mode Eikon is Odin since Zantetsuken is just a must for all smaller trashmobs if you don't want to take forever to kill them.
And I just can't really part with the phoenix shift since it's just so nice to get around the field. And yes you can use lunge for it bit it isn't as far as the shift. And shift is great to enable mortal blows.
It's just whenever I get rid of phoenix I miss it :D
I JUST got to Ash in my NG+ Final Fantasy mode playthrough. For the WHOLE run, I've been rocking Shiva (Will-o'-the-Wykes and Judgment Bolt), Bahamut (Impulse and Gigaflare), and Odin (Dancing Steel and Diamond Dust). I originally ran Lightning Rod instead of Judgment Bolt, but it seemed just so slow without a ton of DPS for it justify itself. HOWEVER, as much as I LOVE Megaflare it is also REALLY slow; I'm thinking of swapping Bahamut for Garuda, for that added height and mobility.
I really wish I’d known about mixing and matching mastered abilities before finishing my first playthrough 😅
My favorite was shivas perfect dodge freeze then go into odens dancing steel then rip slip out into charged attack level5 man that does alot of damage for a free combo and if you have level 5 already up i believe you can get 2 in one perfect dodge freeze. Shiva,odin,phoenix
I am at Drake's Breathe, playing in NG+ FF Mode. I have tried 35 times to beat the Boss, but though I get its bar close to defeating it, I die. I've tried many builds. Could you recommend a build to defeat this boss???? The boss looks like a ball with a ton of tentacles, and during the fight, more single ones that look like fingers pop up too. Clive makes a joke saying, "Don't these things have roots?"
My current combo for stagger combo:
Build:
Phoenix: Diamond Dust / Lightning Rod
Odin: Rift Slip / Dancing Steel
Bahamut: Judgement Bolt / Gigaflare
Charge a Lv 5 Zan
Order once staggered:
- Phoenix Shift to be right in front,
- Diamond Dust to get the 1.5,
Lightning Rod (Switch to Odin while animation is going on and hold Attack).
- When the Rod is placed use your left hand to press Circle to switch to Gungnir, release LV5 Zan.
- Once the last hit is done, Rift Slip and Dancing Steel.
(Due to the Dance hitting the Rod as well, you get a guaranteed LV5 Zan w/o needing any other equipment.)
- Rift Slip out after getting LV5 Zan and hold onto attack.
Release second Zan (switch to Bahamut while it is going on.)
- Gigaflare once end of Zan.
- End with Judgement Bolt.
At level 45 equipped with the weapon prior to Ultima Weapon, that is upwards of 200k damage.
Most mobs below mark rank S Class should fall in a single stagger
Could swap Phoenix with Shiva. Her Cold Snaps freezes Stagger and lets you pull off 2-3 Zantetsuken.
This is most broken build but gets boring and repetitive.
@@blue-phoenix115 yea i tried that but I felt that although using Shiva to freeze and await cooldowns can optimize damage, it felt to me like a chore and ultimately went with the above set-up since battles are usually over soon after the above combo.
I am also more used to using Phoenix shift for trash mobs and just ain't good enough to perform permafrost in an optimal manner.
The game blew me away at the start ngl, but after hours of it, I have to admit things are starting feel dull and repetitive. The crafting and customisation really seems a bit shallow as compared to other FFs
@@ErdingerLi yeah after doing NG+ it does feel the battle feels the same, but i like that FF mode is actually more challenging than action-focused
i'm actually blown away to find out that people has their own build for endgame abilities
also it is such a BIG miss opportunity with their gear customization to at least have a passive abilities for enhancing abilities or other moves and accessories able to combine with other effects, idk why they are not going for that type of customization
@@rexxel8867 It truly felt like they met halfway between both being an Action game and an RPG. I was pretty much burned out from even wanting to do an NG+ because the crafting and MMO-ish sidequests were too boring.
I will say the story and the Eikon cutscene battles were super mindblowing and amazing to be fair. But other than that, the replayability for this game is really not there for me.
Happy that you are having a great time!
I truly quite enjoyed the story and explosive Eikon fights 🖖🏻
@@ErdingerLi the reason i did NG+ with FF mode is because i commit to plat the game and also curious. My current FF mode playthrough i only go straight to the main quest while skipping all side contents, to my surprise it did give me challenge at least starting after Clive became Cid is where i feel the game is challenging. I died once on akashic morbol fight and against titan i almost died and out of recovery abilities too
even some fights gives 2 enemies with Will gauge at the same time which makes it way more engaging than the first playthrough
i low key wish FF mode difficulty is the normal difficulty or action-focused, while story-mode as is, maybe i would have a different impression and so for other people 😅
right now my eikon list is up to bahamut. i have Phoenix + WoW, lightning rod, Garuda + gouge, wicked wheel, Titan + windup, gigaflare. cant wait to get Bahamut so I can expand more and finally get my hands on Zantetsuken 😀
You could spend a couple of mins or an hour in Kanver (just the first 2 group lf enemies) before clearing the mission to gain a couple of thousand AP. It will be more than enough to max all regular skills ans upgrade the more expensive ones. If you really like to grind do this for 1 to 2 hours and max everything. You shouldnt need any points for the rest of the game.
This definitely worked I did this and have everything maxed out. I was already upgrading before reaching that point in game but definitely will get you what you need to max everything
This is a bit late but i could easily create any set i wanted by respecing after i got odin on my first game. All build were possible before lv40.
Will you make an updated version of this video once the Rising Tide DLC comes out?
Where is the spread sheet. I can’t see it
Diamond dust to lower stagger bar, once staggered cold snap ad infinitum and reuse refreshed Diamond dust. Holding any abilities is not optimal for dps.
I really went through 90% of the game not realizing you could do/upgrade any of this. Got to Barnabas and just gave up bc I couldn't kill him. Maybe I should go back now...
My final line up was fire with ignition and flame of rebirth light with the tornado and and light 4 ball attack and dark with dancing steel and dust
Rate my build:
1. Cold snap, Heatwave, Diamond dust
2. Arms of Darkness, Raging fist, Dancing steel
3. Wings of light, Lightning rod, Gigaflare
Start with cold snap into permafrost then dancing steel + maybe a few arms of Darkness hits to charge up Zantetsuken to level 5.
Use heatwave vs enemy ranged attacks and raging fists vs enemy melee attacks to bring down the will bar.
Diamond dust can also be used here.
Once enemy is staggered use lightning rod, Diamond dust, Gigaflare and Zantetsuken to deal damage.. I consistently get above 110,000 stagger damage at level 47
If the enemy lives, use wings of light till all abilities recharge n build up that megaflare..
Repeat all when abilities are recharged
Both heatwave and raging fists are replaceable..
Is there a good build that uses at least one ability from every eikon? I like the idea of one that feels like the final boss moment when all eikons are used against ultima.
ramuhs lightning totem and will o wysps you can literally set the controller down in the final chunk of boss battles and they will kill themselves
So I’m kinda new to ff16 and I’m trying to figure out how you mix up theyre abilities
Which accessories should I use?
I can't Play Odin, w/o stacking 2 abilities w/ it... The single attacks between cooldowns are just too weak...
My build till plat is
Shiva: raging fist, diamond dust
Odin: dancing of steel, flame of rebirth
Bahamut: lighting rod, gigaflare
Farming AP is best at Kanver stage ff mode 2500ap/run 😁😁
I pretty much went fully into odins stuff became it was dope as fuck. I took will o wikes the bahmut things that fly around and the lightning rod. I dont know if it was "good" but god DAMN was it fun.
How do I do this type of dodge? 5:30
Berserk ring
I wanna try the build where I get to play the game on pc
How do you get that flaming slow mo zooming precision dodge animation ? My clive doesn't do that when i get one
You need the get the Berserker Ring from the Patron’s Whisper at the Hideaway.
When making builds I like to use only 1 abilty for smaller enemies (wicked wheel of piledriver mostly) since with deadly embrace or pheonix shift most small mobs dont pose much of a challange.
The rest of my abilities are for big stagger damage (diamond dust, dancing steel, gigaflare and lightning rod) or utility (rift slip and will o wykes)
The main thing is cold snap and zantetsuken tho. These feats are too good
Combo three ability rotation?
How do you do that cinematic precition dodge animation? Mine is just clive dodging a little cooler and slowing down time for a second
You get that cinematic dodge from an accessory item called “Berserker Ring”.
It increases attack proficiency with each precision dodge.
I can’t remember where you get it from.
@@isaaclovely586 oh i didn't know it changed animations too, thanks
Odin: Dance of Steel, Judgement Bolt
Garuda: Lightning Rod, Will-o'-the-Wykes
Shiva: Diamond Dust, Giga Flare
is this a possible build in the first playthrough?
Possible yes, but you're have to farm a lot of extra ability points to make that happen in your first playthrough.
@@ArktixOfficial so farm monster?
See the way i got around this was by maxing out my ap in my first playthrough
Where's the spreadsheet link?
Sorry, I didn't pin the comment. It's there now 👍🏼
This lady did a full 2.3 million stagger damage.
You should put rift slip in
No Pheonix Shift? damn... I know it's not really crucial to a Min/Max build... but they should have just made that a default ability imo...
8:06 nice
I also wanna add... if you spend a little time getting a better understanding of the battle mechanics. It will open up a ton more build options!!
You need to add odin :)
Mine is just phoenix, garuda and then lighting guy ( i forgot his name) i do pheonix uppercut thing, then switch garuda do the knife ching chang thing to stagger, then i go back to pheonix and do fire hell thing or whatever and then it stagger then i do lighting blast from the heavens (i also forgot the name) then i other lighting shockwave, then switch to hell transformation flame swrod thing and boom boom boom then i do tornado from garuda, and hope the other abilities by that time have regenerated (which they prolly havent) then repeat. The reasons this build is amazing (trash?) Is because its mid game and im no where near finishing it.
Bro plz make a horizon vid bro I beg you I ve been waiting
I always looking at my notifications to see if there is one
😁 Don't worry! I've got plenty of Horizon vids in the works 👍🏼
Thanks man I love your vids good luck on the vids
Thanks!
Arktix I found a great tip that makes you get quick draw on sharp shot bows by sliding all you need to do is start a slide and right at the start of the slide draw your sharp shot bow really quick and you will get quick draw I hade no draw speed coils or perks while doing this I talked about on your discord
What are you even maxing with your “current build”…? That build is cheap, lacks stronger available skills, and you’re selecting garuda and NOT using aerial blast in a STAGGER build…? And using weak ass titan abilities over judgment bolt?
I’d assume you didn’t have the ability points for a better build, but then I see you’ve got limit break maxed.
I don’t get it.
Honestly this final fantasy game is better than 15! Love the combat and open world
I don't like titan tbh
I don’t even think you can call what you’re able to do in XVI a build per se. When I think of build I’m thinking stat allocation, equipment, then maybe what moves you are allowed to equip. Equipment is basically pointless since there is no variety at all, simply the largest numbers you can get from msq equipment. Then the other choice is the eikon abilities. There just isn’t enough room to build much of anything, you’re just picking which moves you like the best and when that’s all the choice you have I don’t think that’s a build, just optimization. When I think build I think of a play style too, but here you play the exact same outside of those Eikon abilities.
You know what he means, It's not that deep bro
I'm sorry, but deadly embrace is borderline useless and the people who think it's top level shit are insane. Top tier (strictly talking the eikonic feat, not their cooldowns) is either shiva or odin. Everything else is substantially lesser. I favor bahamut just because I like prepping it right before stagger (not even going to pretend that it's actually good, I just like seeing big numbers). Ramuh is almost useless, phoenix and titan are redundant to your core abilities, garuda is pretty much only useful for slightly speeding up killing a regular enemy, but you should be using zantetsuken to clear out large regular enemy waves anyway.
Also, will of the wykes is cheap (as in low ap cost) and broken. It should be in every build, especially any rocking dancing steel.
I dont understand these "build" guides. This game isnt that difficult to need builds. Just like God of War Rag, all these videos about build guides make no sense.
Normal enemies are push overs and you mostly just skip them. Bosses arent much tougher either to require a "build".
This game was a super easy plat, not difficult at all. Even though the story starts great, and there are great parts in the mid game story, all the side quests beside the chocobo suck. The end of the story fights are cool, but it feels too predictable without saying any spoilers. Also should be illegal to have a FF game with no mini games. I found myself getting so bored with the game too many times, it's basically just an interactive movie. The best part of the game besides the graphics are the hunts and the leveling system almost makes you feel like you aren't playing a FF game, i understand you can call a game an RPG just by having a character with a developing story, but you have zero say in everything. It's not what you would call an RPG in the traditional sense, its more of an action game than anything else. The stores are useless, and pretty much the blacksmith is just linear and boring. Im also not a fan of chapters, it worked in 10 but not here, open world is always better. Overall I'm just disappointed in this game. Graphics (10, gorgeous), story (8, had more potential), gameplay (4, too easy), leveling system (2, boring), side quests (0, pointless), extras (0, non existent). The game is sadly a 4.5/10. I had so much expectations, and was let down at every corner, only to see a glimer of something that was potentially more, only to be let down again. If we are be real, the game looks gorgeous, and that's it, it's one of the most shallow FF games ever made. I would place this behind almost all FF games except 13. FF15 seems like it was light years ahead of this game even though it's 7 years older and was cut short for time. Never going to pick this game up again, it felt like a chore just to get the plat, where usually it's more fun.