Best High Heat Spray Paint to Prevent Rust on an Exhaust - 7 Month Winter Test

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  • Today we will see if painting a steel exhaust with high heat paint can help it prevent from rusting through an Ohio winter with road salt.
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  • @Austinandjules
    @Austinandjules ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Im a mechanic in NY and these cheap exhausts normally only last 2 years before a connection rots away or a weld fails and you have to cut and sleeve it. Guaranteed you’ll get a few trouble free years from your work. Awesome.

    • @ShadowGKCP
      @ShadowGKCP ปีที่แล้ว +1

      which aftermarket brands would you say use good steel? my walker exhaust rotted in 3 years

    • @Austinandjules
      @Austinandjules ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ShadowGKCP anything that is stainless will last. Autozone, Napa and advanced all use garbage. Just has a coating that comes off in a few months. You would need to fully paint it like Brian.

  • @richardstone5241
    @richardstone5241 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    The welded seams are NOT rusting from the inside out! Weld seams can rust easily because of oxygen corrosion, also known as "knife cut" corrosion. The welding process creates a Heat Affected Zone (HAZ) that changes the structure of the metal grains, which can lead to pinhole leaks. The weld metal is usually optimized to improve its mechanical properties, which makes it more "anodic" than the base steel. This can cause the weld metal to corrode at higher rates than the base metals. If you can find a "high heat weldable primer" it will help.

    • @6thGearGarage
      @6thGearGarage  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thanks for explaining 👍

  • @MiyamotoMusashi9
    @MiyamotoMusashi9 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The weld heat changes the metal, you can brush high temp grease at the joints then wrap them with aluminum tape , just peel off when the salt season has passed

    • @6thGearGarage
      @6thGearGarage  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      good idea, thanks!

    • @MiyamotoMusashi9
      @MiyamotoMusashi9 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@6thGearGarage I do this to my boiler furnace where the pump flanges rust . No smell but have to do it every winter. If you're under your car a lot you can also use a propane torch and gulf wax to condition the pours of the metal it's how blacksmiths finish off raw steel to cure from rust. I think a exhaust weld would need this monthly though

  • @1D10CRACY
    @1D10CRACY ปีที่แล้ว +13

    This is going to sound a bit odd and sketchy. But I know a fellow here in Ohio who paints his pipes and exhaust with rubberized undercoating. It turns into a hard coating and oddly, doesn't catch fire. :)

    • @6thGearGarage
      @6thGearGarage  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I’m intrigued! I may have to try this 👍

    • @ryanh2704
      @ryanh2704 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@6thGearGaragewould love to see it, unconventional solutions are the tricks of the trade.

    • @richcampbell6808
      @richcampbell6808 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@6thGearGarageI want to paint my chrome aftermarket exhaust tip gloss black . Can you recommend the best spray paint to do that .

    • @6thGearGarage
      @6thGearGarage  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@richcampbell6808 You'll want to finish it with a high heat paint, such as gloss black VHT engine enamel. I'd also scuff it well first, like I did in this video, and apply a high heat engine primer second. Just be sure to clean well between each step to remove contaminates and get best adhesion!

  • @josh4901
    @josh4901 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    HELL FUCKING YES. Mid west salt is no fucking joke. Watched a quarter panel rust out in one season, after that I always use mudflaps.

    • @6thGearGarage
      @6thGearGarage  11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Spray the inside of those quarters with some Fluid Film! th-cam.com/video/nzWx3-9PKT8/w-d-xo.html and spray the underside of your vehicle as well: th-cam.com/video/JJe5mNJXKjk/w-d-xo.html I've been using it for about 12 years now.

  • @Jmasta7
    @Jmasta7 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I will have to replace exhaust parts soon and I plan to do some painting on my new stuff just to hope it prolongs life a bit. Thanks a lot for the experimentation, I didn't know to scuff up the exhaust!

    • @6thGearGarage
      @6thGearGarage  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's all about the prep!

  • @maryhoffman2547
    @maryhoffman2547 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Loved it! Get that nasty rust in illannoz too. Picked up a project this winter and trying to paint as i go. Thanks for the experiment! Have a safe weekend!

  • @greenman7yyy
    @greenman7yyy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent idea, nice presentation. Thank you as these is great question.

    • @6thGearGarage
      @6thGearGarage  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for watching!

  • @cafeandfighters
    @cafeandfighters 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The catalytic converter is emissions related and, therefore, likely stainless, which explains the lack of rust.

    • @tjmax8203
      @tjmax8203 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      100% correct,that blue paint stayed rust free because of the stainless steel.

  • @BentonL
    @BentonL 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I just started playing with cerakote. I am coating everything with it. I am not even doing the prep all that good after how I seen it do on a rusty chisel.
    I tried the high heat black on my over axel pipe to tip and it did not hold up well.
    I order a new 5 inch system for my truck last week and going to try the cerakote on it. Figure you might want to check the product out.
    C series is the one you want to try. 1800 degrees of heat resistance and no oven needed. .

    • @6thGearGarage
      @6thGearGarage  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's awesome, I will check it out

  • @GenXPertChannel
    @GenXPertChannel 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I've used VHT header paint to paint an entire exhaust in Vermont- where there's more salt on the road than snow, water, cars, dirt or anything else... they love it salty.
    The results are fantastic, and the only issue I've had is the hardware. If you don't use stainless hardware, it's now the weakest link. I have a 22 year old exhaust system on my work van used to haul race cars, and the only issue was a weld breaking that corroded from the inside out. Makes me wonder if it's possible to coat the INSIDE of a new exhaust system well enough to stop that from happening. Another tip I'd suggest is that these paints need heat to cure initially- so after I paint them, I get a propane or map gas torch and heat it all up until the paint changes color a little. Some exhaust systems won't get hot enough- OR if there's some time between paint and driving the vehicle, the paint may come off or get moisture affecting adhesion before it's ever heated enough to cure properly.
    Thanks for a great video and a great idea!

    • @6thGearGarage
      @6thGearGarage  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You're absolutely correct! There were instructions on the high heat paint for curing on and off of the vehicle. I cured it on the vehicle, which was just running it for a certain amount of time, letting it cool, and then running it again for a certain amount of time. I should have put that in the video.

  • @ROMAN-oy5ju
    @ROMAN-oy5ju 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This was super helpful! Thank you very much

    • @6thGearGarage
      @6thGearGarage  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You're very welcome!

  • @commonsenseisdeadin2024
    @commonsenseisdeadin2024 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    the issue here is all the coatings are only really going to be as strong as the base when you get down to the important aspect..... however, something is better than nothing!

  • @Mike28625
    @Mike28625 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I kind of like that the orange changes to black. It's not chipped or flaking.

    • @6thGearGarage
      @6thGearGarage  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      and it's so glossy as well.

  • @2iinfinite
    @2iinfinite 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just got a ‘quality 409 stainless steel’ exhaust for $300 shipped off ebay, going to coat it in that vht for these pnw winters. Thanks for the video

    • @6thGearGarage
      @6thGearGarage  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      300 shipped is a great deal for stainless exhaust 👍

  • @dr.detroit1514
    @dr.detroit1514 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    One problem I've just noticed lately is, many exhaust parts for older vehicles are being discontinued by Walker. I Was able to buy a complete from the cat back system for my '92 Dodge Shadow only a few years ago, now the intermediate and extension pipes are that well known element called Unobtainium.

    • @6thGearGarage
      @6thGearGarage  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I ran into the same problem when shopping for a catback for my 1988 Legend. Custom built was the only option and not cheap.

    • @theroyalcrownedtiger2946
      @theroyalcrownedtiger2946 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Universal aftermarket parts, such as mufflers and resonators are a option.
      Local exhaust shop can be helpful to custom make exhaust system, but they can also order it in too.
      For older vehicles exhaust parts are also available online.
      Junk yard can have the needed parts from the same car or same platform car.
      For me its not hard to get parts, since I own domestic cars.
      I've custom assembled complete catback exhaust system from different domestic vehicles exhaust tubing, resonator, muffler, tips, hangers, and it works well.

  • @bertone83
    @bertone83 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Super helpful test, thank you! Maybe it helps if you apply the paint a bit thicker on the weldings?

    • @6thGearGarage
      @6thGearGarage  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think those welds might just be rusting from the inside out, as this is definitely a cheap exhaust.

    • @bertone83
      @bertone83 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@6thGearGarage My theory is the steel for the welding wire has a lower quality than the rest, hence the weldings rusts quicker. Thats why I have painted the seams even thicker than the rest. I have just finished the job, lets see how it looks in 1-2 years :)

  • @QuigzDrifts
    @QuigzDrifts 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Awesome, did you follow the curing instructions on the 2000 degree can?

    • @6thGearGarage
      @6thGearGarage  25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yes I did. I let the car idle for a while and then let it cool, then let it run again for a while. I cured some smaller parts in an oven for a couple other videos. The oven was faster/easier.

    • @QuigzDrifts
      @QuigzDrifts 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@6thGearGarage thanks for getting back to me, I'm going to be using this on an application where I can't follow the curing instructions so I was wondering if it's still effective if you're unable to do that

  • @justinvanburen8259
    @justinvanburen8259 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice test! Thanks

  • @spacetruckin6555
    @spacetruckin6555 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The original exhaust system on my 1997 Buick Lesabre has a little surface rust here and there, but I live in South Carolina. When I changed a leaky flange gasket, the bolts actually came out. I don't know how anyone could stand it up there.

    • @6thGearGarage
      @6thGearGarage  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's rough, but by now I'm used to everything being a PITA and figure every job should take 2x as long as It should.

  • @MAsWorld1
    @MAsWorld1 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If that exhaust is made from “aluminized” steel, it would explain why only the welds rusted. The paint may be doing nothing since aluminized pipe or SS would not corrode in one year, even without paint.

    • @6thGearGarage
      @6thGearGarage  หลายเดือนก่อน

      You’re 100% correct. A couple months ago the exhaust was getting louder and I noticed that the weld at the muffler rusted through.

    • @MAsWorld1
      @MAsWorld1 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@6thGearGarage yeah it’s too bad the welds corrode , defeats the purpose of the aluminizing!

  • @shawndubay4050
    @shawndubay4050 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    So I have a question. I painted the two headers and muffler on my zero turn mower with the Rust-Oleum 2000°paint. It's got a couple coats. My question is can I heat cure/bake it in while I mow or would it be better to heat cycle it sitting in place?? Didn't know if running full throttle mowing would just flake off or burn off. The exhaust systems are quite expensive so trying to keep it good for as long as possible. From what I read at 3600 rpm the exhaust gets up to 600° really quickly.

    • @6thGearGarage
      @6thGearGarage  18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I don't know about the instructions on Rustoleum, but the instructions on the VHT can said to cure on the vehicle by letting it idle. Like you said, a higher RPM is a lot of heat.

    • @shawndubay4050
      @shawndubay4050 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@6thGearGarage very true my exhaust gets to 400° at idle and 600° full throttle.

  • @damensutherland7081
    @damensutherland7081 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Should do video on kbs .they seem like good paint they got good cears i think to .urethane that is slow cured whatever that means.cerakote is getting more expensive kbs is cheaper but not ceramic

    • @6thGearGarage
      @6thGearGarage  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I haven't heard of KBS, I will look into them. thanks!

    • @damensutherland7081
      @damensutherland7081 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for reply

  • @tiger7777
    @tiger7777 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You seem to have forgotten the CAT is stainless.

    • @6thGearGarage
      @6thGearGarage  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I’m reading this and seeing your profile pic is a cat 😁. It is, but I’m still impressed that there were no chips in the finish of the flameproof paint.

    • @Toyotajunkie
      @Toyotajunkie ปีที่แล้ว

      The paint stuck, though, and hasn't shown any signs of flaking, etc. The high heat is what was the big concern at that point. Yes, the stainless will help prevent corrosion, but it isn't going to last "forever."

  • @Rein_Ciarfella
    @Rein_Ciarfella 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So you're painting with discontinued paints. How exactly is this going to help us?

    • @6thGearGarage
      @6thGearGarage  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Only some of these were discontinued. Everyone says "they don't make them as good as they used to" so I tested old versions next to new versions to see how they hold up and make sure these companies aren't skimping on quality. As we saw, the old engine paint turned brown!

  • @GTtexas2009
    @GTtexas2009 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I live in Texas not far from the gulf I have had 3 bbq pits rust one rusted all the way through Now i have a pellet grill rusting and was wondering can that paint be used on bbq pits both the fire box. And the 4’ long 28” inches around. And can the racks be sprayed as well to stop. Rusting

    • @6thGearGarage
      @6thGearGarage  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They could absolutely be used on the BBQ pits. However, I wouldn't paint the inside or the racks where any of the food will be cooking. Might give a strange flavor to the food.

  • @SaleenJ
    @SaleenJ 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey is that a saleen speedster tonnaeu cover on the wall???

    • @6thGearGarage
      @6thGearGarage  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It sure is... good eye!

  • @prime2d958
    @prime2d958 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    is it possible for the paint to entrap heat? say on a catalytic converter. would this cause any issues?

    • @6thGearGarage
      @6thGearGarage  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I did not consider that... but I have been told that a cat works best when it's hot, so maybe it wouldn't hurt it?

    • @commonsenseisdeadin2024
      @commonsenseisdeadin2024 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      paint is a horrible thermal insulator, ceramic on the other hand would be however not the "ceramic" in a spray can. Either way you can insulate your exhaust given its not too small for the engine you'll be just fine.

  • @btbd2785
    @btbd2785 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The cat is not meant to be painted. I Was told.this by the makers of VHT Flameproof a.k.a Dupli c
    Color

    • @6thGearGarage
      @6thGearGarage  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I know cats can get vary hot... that really shows the amount of heat that the paint can withstand.

  • @gth213
    @gth213 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I appreciate what you where attempting to do but your approach and execution are flawed in several different ways.
    1st the exhaust you purchased appears to be aluminized (which is a very good anti rust coating) and very hard to get removed completely, that's why all the weld joints were rusted because welding will burn through the aluminized and leave rare steel.
    2nd the cat is probable stainless steel
    3rd there are very specific instructions on the paints for curing which where completely ignored and at least for the HIGH HEAT paint makes a huge difference.
    If you really want to do the test correctly get a 5 foot section of bare steel and repeat the test with the proper baking procedures or get as close as you can with a heat gun. My preference is to use a heat gun to blow through and heat from the inside out to bake.
    I do appreciate the video but it could use some tweaking to get better real results.

    • @6thGearGarage
      @6thGearGarage  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      There were instructions on the high heat paint for curing on and off of the vehicle. I cured it on the vehicle, which was just running it for a certain amount of time, letting it cool, and then running it again for a certain amount of time. I should have put that in the video. One thing I should have done differently is left a section unpainted to see how it would have done with no paint at all.

  • @stoneyswolf
    @stoneyswolf 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Stainless steel is the only way to go it'll outlive the vehicle.

  • @rtwebb25
    @rtwebb25 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you for making your exhaust look terrible for science haha

  • @rodrigomeca
    @rodrigomeca 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    its CANADA not canadia

    • @6thGearGarage
      @6thGearGarage  วันที่ผ่านมา

      I was just goofin... sorry if I offended any Canadadians

    • @rodrigomeca
      @rodrigomeca วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@6thGearGarage thank you my fellow amerikan

  • @btbd2785
    @btbd2785 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why didn't you use the primer before you painted?

    • @6thGearGarage
      @6thGearGarage  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I did use two types of primer before painting.

    • @btbd2785
      @btbd2785 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @6thGearGarage
      There are 2 types of primer?
      I know they make a regular primer, but what's the other one, thanks

    • @6thGearGarage
      @6thGearGarage  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@btbd2785 Engine and High Heat, they're both in the video

  • @drewfleming7065
    @drewfleming7065 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Im sure your bud lite color exhaust posted in June is just a kwiky dink....

    • @6thGearGarage
      @6thGearGarage  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      😂😂😂 7 months in the works, you’d think I’d have planned a little better