In the case of Tiana's Bayou Adventure, they took an IP that bombed in theatres and ended Disney's traditional animation studio but used it to retheme one of the park's most popular attractions. In this case, it was done purely out of activism, not popularity and it shows.
Disney needs new management. It's the only sort of hope that can help this failing company. The company really needs someone who values creativity and originality rather than being entirely dependent on intellectual properties. This is why I have to give props to Oriental Land Company for maintaining and preserving the originality of Tokyo Disneyland, as it really has a ton of original content blended in with well-themed intellectual property attractions. I honestly have to say that you should be visiting Tokyo Disneyland over Disney World currently.
Tokyo Disneyland has no originality. It was built as a replica of Disneyland and Magic Kingdom. It was not until after building DisneySea, that the OLC realized the castle park needed an identity.
@ChienaAvtzon yes and no. It started out as basically the Disney parks greatest hits but as time went on it has taken on its own image because the thing is Disney isn't footing the bill when it comes to Tokyo Disneyland. This is important as they for some time have been able to bounce ideas off and put it all kinds of leading edge tech which makes there rides so good (just look at the pooh ride and compare it to all the others and it is night and day). Also this park is now the only one with Splash Mountain.
@@Josh-ut4wv - The OLC never rejected the idea of an update. They rejected it being a clone of the update in the domestic parks. They wanted something more unique, and it was already hinted which film they might have picked.
I haven't been confident in their movies ever since 2018, but Splash Mountain broke me in terms of their parks It's insane how much in the last 7 years, the company has changed so much for the worse. Sure they've been iffy for a while, but every since 2020, they've been very money hungry when it came with their sequel or milking Marvel. Even in the parks like I said with Splash Mountain but it's not just that, alot of stuff that "Imagineering" has been doing have been either subpar, or missed the mark, but with everything planned, I'd like to add soulless now.
This is a *really* good description of what is happening to the various Disney parks. Tbh, if Walt was alive today he would be completely appalled at what his parks have become. As you said, the Disney parks were never meant to showcase the various films Disney had. More than anything it was to give guests a unique experience that occasionally tied in a few films (Peter Pan being one) but mostly tried to be its own thing. By putting in various film-themed 'lands' into the parks Disney seems to be degrading the magic of those parks, making them feel more corporate than magical. And they are doing this during a time when their rivals are getting more aggressive with their expansions, cutting into their market share (especially in Florida). Not a smart move at all.
A counter argument is that the film themed lands is probably their best aspects (eg Shanghai’s Zootopia land is insanely good), the issue these are few and far between. Their rivals are doing the themed lands better (eg Mario land and the new Donkey Kong lands at Universal Japan, the new Universal Epic Universe etc are just so insanely unique!)
Why did disney think to release mufasa the same day as SONIC 3 I only heard of mufasa from moist crital but I was hype for sonic 3 sense 2 post credit scene 2 years ago
They should really explore more options with SEA (society of explorers and adventurers) and Jules Verne, as their best work revolves around those two themes
That or take more inspiration from Tokyo Disneyland as for that they have some of the highest quality but it comes down to they aren't footing the bill there.
Tell us you were born after 2000, without telling us. The idea of Animal Kingdom was to compete with Busch Gardens, while capitalizing on the popularity of “The Lion King”. Michael Eisner never hide that fact. While Splash Mountain and Star Tours were built in the 80s, and both are IP attractions in random locations. The very era that kept Disney from bankruptcy, the Disney Renaissance, is severely underrepresented at the domestic parks. It was not until this year that it was announced that “The Lion King” would finally get a ride-through attraction, after 30 years, but it will be at Disneyland Paris. Despite that film earning nearly $1bil at the box-office, back in 1994. While the Disney Villains are predominantly from very old movies. I do not see the monstrosity that is Zootopia coming to the domestic parks, due to that film not being popular in America and the land being exclusive to Shanghai. At Shanghai Disneyland, which is a bizarre park, that land serves as a combination of ToonTown and Galaxy’s Edge. It fills in a gag that is not needed at the domestic parks.
Though, I do agree that using D23 as a focus-group has been a terrible idea. Since what the Disney fanatics want, and what would be successful with the general public, are two completely different things. Galaxy’s Edge is a great example of this. It was not built for casual theme park guests, and thus has underperformed since opening. Whereas Cars Land and Pandora were huge successes, and neither were focus-grouped. Imagineering took a huge risk on both those projects, and Disney reaped in the rewards.
I'd rather they just haul everything from Tokyo Disneysea than to put in more IPs. At least there's a consistent theme and worldbuilding that creates a sense of adventure.
you did a great job - however, Pirates of the Caribbean The Curse of the Black Pearl was NOT based on the ride. Disney had inserted character & scenic elements known from their ride into a supernatural pirate story.
These new folks coming in to work at Disney really need to learn what the old guard did to make Disney the quality standard it was. Drop the politics, the holier than thou attitude, nickel and diming, virtue signaling, "fixing" problems that didn't really exist, making things harder on the customer, having a constant, multi-year construction zone, and get back to basic business. Treat the customer well and you'll get repeat business. Focus on making quality products, quality services, and quality park updates THAT PEOPLE WANT, and you'll get repeat business. LISTEN to your guests, and you'll get repeat business. It's really that simple.
Ah, if it was that simple. That paradigm USED to exist for hundreds of years. However, the customer has gotten used to getting virtually nothing for their money. Have you been to a McDonald’s lately? They don’t even have a person stationed at the one and only register to do person to person transactions. Businesses don’t care how bad they treat you because they all know there is another stupid schmo that will put up with their bullshit and high prices. I was an Imagineer for years and all I ever worked on were IP driven attractions. “Here. Take this movie and shove it into a box that doesn’t exceed 25,000 sq ft. Most boring career I could have imagined.
Tron and Cosmic Rewind are two of the most amazing, unique attractions ever created. Skeleton Crew is fantastic. More Mandalorian. coming. But no, lets all collectively whine anyways 🙄
As a tron fan, i was so glad Disney at least gives a bit of recognition to Tron as despite its flawed, it was such a technologically advanced movie at the time (og) tron that helped paved the way for cgi in movies.
In the case of Tiana's Bayou Adventure, they took an IP that bombed in theatres and ended Disney's traditional animation studio but used it to retheme one of the park's most popular attractions. In this case, it was done purely out of activism, not popularity and it shows.
Disney needs new management. It's the only sort of hope that can help this failing company. The company really needs someone who values creativity and originality rather than being entirely dependent on intellectual properties.
This is why I have to give props to Oriental Land Company for maintaining and preserving the originality of Tokyo Disneyland, as it really has a ton of original content blended in with well-themed intellectual property attractions. I honestly have to say that you should be visiting Tokyo Disneyland over Disney World currently.
Tokyo Disneyland has no originality. It was built as a replica of Disneyland and Magic Kingdom. It was not until after building DisneySea, that the OLC realized the castle park needed an identity.
@ChienaAvtzon yes and no. It started out as basically the Disney parks greatest hits but as time went on it has taken on its own image because the thing is Disney isn't footing the bill when it comes to Tokyo Disneyland. This is important as they for some time have been able to bounce ideas off and put it all kinds of leading edge tech which makes there rides so good (just look at the pooh ride and compare it to all the others and it is night and day). Also this park is now the only one with Splash Mountain.
@@Josh-ut4wv - Tokyo’s Splash Mountain is rumored to be receiving a retheme after their new Space Mountain opens.
@ChienaAvtzon whatever it is it will be original as they rejected the "update"
@@Josh-ut4wv - The OLC never rejected the idea of an update. They rejected it being a clone of the update in the domestic parks. They wanted something more unique, and it was already hinted which film they might have picked.
I haven't been confident in their movies ever since 2018, but Splash Mountain broke me in terms of their parks
It's insane how much in the last 7 years, the company has changed so much for the worse. Sure they've been iffy for a while, but every since 2020, they've been very money hungry when it came with their sequel or milking Marvel. Even in the parks like I said with Splash Mountain but it's not just that, alot of stuff that "Imagineering" has been doing have been either subpar, or missed the mark, but with everything planned, I'd like to add soulless now.
*cough* *cough* tron lightcycle run…
Disney plays way too safe! Plus, they pander way too much to families and are afraid to take risks with their films nowadays!
they should be pandering to families in the parks not just the movies
They will cheese their way to the least expensive option they can get away with and you end up with crap.
This is a *really* good description of what is happening to the various Disney parks. Tbh, if Walt was alive today he would be completely appalled at what his parks have become. As you said, the Disney parks were never meant to showcase the various films Disney had. More than anything it was to give guests a unique experience that occasionally tied in a few films (Peter Pan being one) but mostly tried to be its own thing. By putting in various film-themed 'lands' into the parks Disney seems to be degrading the magic of those parks, making them feel more corporate than magical.
And they are doing this during a time when their rivals are getting more aggressive with their expansions, cutting into their market share (especially in Florida). Not a smart move at all.
A counter argument is that the film themed lands is probably their best aspects (eg Shanghai’s Zootopia land is insanely good), the issue these are few and far between. Their rivals are doing the themed lands better (eg Mario land and the new Donkey Kong lands at Universal Japan, the new Universal Epic Universe etc are just so insanely unique!)
Why did disney think to release mufasa the same day as SONIC 3 I only heard of mufasa from moist crital but I was hype for sonic 3 sense 2 post credit scene 2 years ago
Hey, you dropped this 👑
"They just make rides based on films from the past 3 years"?
Which films in the past 3 years have rides made?
I made the mistake of going to Islands of Adventure and riding Velocicoaster 2 days before I went to Magic Kingdom and riding the new Tron coaster.
What do you mean, "that looks pretty promising"?
Have you not seen Deadpool and wolverine yet? It's not even in theaters anymore.
They should really explore more options with SEA (society of explorers and adventurers) and Jules Verne, as their best work revolves around those two themes
That or take more inspiration from Tokyo Disneyland as for that they have some of the highest quality but it comes down to they aren't footing the bill there.
Honestly I don’t find Disney IP’s interesting as I did when I was younger I don’t feel the need to go see the new movies in theaters
I don’t even like Harry Potter never really did but the Harry Potter Land is so nice looking
Is this a re upload?
Tell us you were born after 2000, without telling us. The idea of Animal Kingdom was to compete with Busch Gardens, while capitalizing on the popularity of “The Lion King”. Michael Eisner never hide that fact. While Splash Mountain and Star Tours were built in the 80s, and both are IP attractions in random locations. The very era that kept Disney from bankruptcy, the Disney Renaissance, is severely underrepresented at the domestic parks. It was not until this year that it was announced that “The Lion King” would finally get a ride-through attraction, after 30 years, but it will be at Disneyland Paris. Despite that film earning nearly $1bil at the box-office, back in 1994. While the Disney Villains are predominantly from very old movies.
I do not see the monstrosity that is Zootopia coming to the domestic parks, due to that film not being popular in America and the land being exclusive to Shanghai. At Shanghai Disneyland, which is a bizarre park, that land serves as a combination of ToonTown and Galaxy’s Edge. It fills in a gag that is not needed at the domestic parks.
Though, I do agree that using D23 as a focus-group has been a terrible idea. Since what the Disney fanatics want, and what would be successful with the general public, are two completely different things. Galaxy’s Edge is a great example of this. It was not built for casual theme park guests, and thus has underperformed since opening. Whereas Cars Land and Pandora were huge successes, and neither were focus-grouped. Imagineering took a huge risk on both those projects, and Disney reaped in the rewards.
I haven’t been to Disney World in years and I mean it I don’t remember the last time I went
I'd rather they just haul everything from Tokyo Disneysea than to put in more IPs. At least there's a consistent theme and worldbuilding that creates a sense of adventure.
you did a great job - however, Pirates of the Caribbean The Curse of the Black Pearl was NOT based on the ride. Disney had inserted character & scenic elements known from their ride into a supernatural pirate story.
These new folks coming in to work at Disney really need to learn what the old guard did to make Disney the quality standard it was. Drop the politics, the holier than thou attitude, nickel and diming, virtue signaling, "fixing" problems that didn't really exist, making things harder on the customer, having a constant, multi-year construction zone, and get back to basic business. Treat the customer well and you'll get repeat business. Focus on making quality products, quality services, and quality park updates THAT PEOPLE WANT, and you'll get repeat business. LISTEN to your guests, and you'll get repeat business. It's really that simple.
Ah, if it was that simple. That paradigm USED to exist for hundreds of years. However, the customer has gotten used to getting virtually nothing for their money. Have you been to a McDonald’s lately? They don’t even have a person stationed at the one and only register to do person to person transactions. Businesses don’t care how bad they treat you because they all know there is another stupid schmo that will put up with their bullshit and high prices. I was an Imagineer for years and all I ever worked on were IP driven attractions. “Here. Take this movie and shove it into a box that doesn’t exceed 25,000 sq ft. Most boring career I could have imagined.
Disney is becoming very mid ( if they were not already )
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Tron and Cosmic Rewind are two of the most amazing, unique attractions ever created. Skeleton Crew is fantastic. More Mandalorian. coming. But no, lets all collectively whine anyways 🙄
@@tonydoinstuff i can only agree with half
As a tron fan, i was so glad Disney at least gives a bit of recognition to Tron as despite its flawed, it was such a technologically advanced movie at the time (og) tron that helped paved the way for cgi in movies.
Disneyland isn't doing so hot right now, either. It's so terrible giving time and energy to this stupid ass company.