A Budget Cue with a Carbon Fiber Shaft!? JFlowers Cue Review Part 1
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- J Flowers Cues are smashing into the US pool scene hard with budget-friendly cues that come with a Carbon Fiber Shaft for under $320! Can you believe it? An entire cue with a carbon fiber shaft is over $100 cheaper than a Predator Revo shaft (no butt)? I know it’s hard to believe. So, does this cue even play well? It wouldn’t be worth $1 if it played bad. Well check out this video and see what I think.
Thank you all for the support and for watching!
Timestamps
0:00 Intro
Where to get the products mentioned in the review:
J Flowers
jflowerscues.c...
Weight bolts
shrtm.nu/UPow ($40)
shrtm.nu/mjb3 (Just found this one for $20!!)
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Music site I use (Epidemic Sound): bit.ly/1oJdpW0
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My Gear:
Sony A6500
Sigma 16mm 1.4f Lens
Sigma 30mm 1.4f Lens
Sony 18-105mm 4f Lens
K and F Concept Tripod
Rode Wireless Go
Diety Lav Mic
DJI Ronin SC
Neweer 18" Pancake LED Light
Go Pro Hero 5
Go Pro Session
Zoom H4N Pro
#jflowers #carbonfibershaft #budgetcue
I hope everyone liked the video! This was my first full cue review and a budget one at that. It was nice to see what value is out there on the market. One thing I didn’t really hit on in the video is how does this compare to a premium brand. Well, you have to understand that budget cue is a product that’s trying to meet a market friendly price point. With that said, I think some of the higher end brands do bring a little more to the table BUT this cue is a no brainer at this price point. It plays well and the carbon fiber shaft is really good. Hopefully I didn’t say that too early since I haven’t done the in-depth testing yet. I will say this though, it’s a really good first impression on me so far. BTW, the is sound of the hit in the video as requested by the viewers, thank you for the feedback!
Nice one. I didn't feel the JFlowers cue to hit like the Predator at all personally. I think the JFlowers shaft has more of a wood feel, I describe it as a cross between the Mezz Ignite and the Cuetec Cynergy shafts.
@@YaworskiPoolPractice Sorry, I didn't mean the hit itself is like the Predator. I meant the dimensions and the balance felt like a Predator (overall feel of playing with the cue as a whole). I probably have been more specific in the video. I can see where it may sound like I was saying the hit was like a Predator. I haven't played with the Ignite yet but I agree the hit feels more wood like and is more similar to the Cynergy. Thanks for the comment and for watching!
@@PoolAddiction ahh gotcha. Looking forward to the next episode. I have done a few JFlowers reviews myself. The JF power Jump is amazing, aswell as the JF Force Break cue.
@@YaworskiPoolPractice I’ll have keep in mind their other cues for the future.
I was looking at the cue last night.. on the site there are options when ordering such as 3 trip. Sizes I think I mite get a 11.8 instead of the 12.5.m
Another option is the tip.. and I'm not sure which one to get the standard icons with which is a moorie medium.. or Jflowerstips in hard , medium or sofft..
KAMAUI tips .. H,M,S, and extra soft .. some clear or black tips.. is there a difference withe these beisede the color
PREDATOR VICTORY TIPS:H,M,S
TAOM Fusion
and
TAOM Pro
Tiger Evrest
Tiger Oynex
Zan plus and premium tips..
Do you know anything about these variety of tips.. I don't know which one to chose as far as brand.. how they play
I don't even know the difference with hard tips medium, soft or extra soft..
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Ive been playing a jflowers cue for the last 8 months and here is what ive noticed. I have a CF shaft and it isnt completely low deflection, it bends almost as much as a low deflection wood shaft, but way more consistent. But with all CF, the energy transfer is consistently higher, which means if you dont have a consistent stroke, your misses will be accentuated. So CF really isnt meant for beginning to average players.
Agree with everything you said. I’m working on the in depth stuff right now and I experienced the same thing you have. Thanks for the comment and for watching!
I disagree a cue that accentuates your form mistakes will train you in better form quicker, learned this in archery
I love my jflowers cue plus the case and extension. I'm getting the jump break cue next
Nice! You need to let me know how you like the jump cue. Someone else commented about it and said they loved it! Happy shooting!
Thank you! I have one couldn't be happier. Yes, the tip is good, but I changed my out to suit my preference. Smokin deal!
You get a lot for the money. Glad you liked the video!
Awesome review. Good job 💪🏼
Thanks! I see you’re getting more good work out there as well. It nice to have a community out here trying to promote this game we love.
how can i buy your j flowers cue sir..? i am willing to have one sir. thank you. pls reply
Thanks but it's unfortunately not for sale. Hope you liked the video.
Good job Ty!
Thank you, I'm glad you liked it!
I have one but i don’t like the Tip they provided 😢 which tip to install can anyone suggest me ?
Kamui Black is always a safe bet. I tend to like a soft tip so I get it in soft. There a lot of options out there.
Had this cue 6 months now,believe me it's an absolute bargain!
Cue listings also reviews them,if you are pressed for cash but want the quality,look no further folks I promise you!
You are absolutely right! Best bargain on the market right now. I've watched Cue Listings reviews, he has quite a few now. There are several others out there as well. I believe Lil Chris did a review. Karl Boyes just did one as well. Thanks for watching!
@@johnholmstrom4212 absolute bullshit!
@@johnholmstrom4212 I await your reply……
Cmon know it all dogsbreath- back up yr comment!
Nice review !
Could you provide some information aboit the shaft’s taper ?
Hi, the time frame of the video where check the taper is at 8:20. The taper is about 14.5 inches. Thanks and I am glad you like the video!
@@PoolAddiction appreciate it ! I missed it while watching. Thank you!
No worries, I usually put a text graphic when I do the measurements and I missed it.
I just bought this cue with a zan premium soft tip. Do you know anything about these tips? I choose this tip as I use a tiger sniper on my revo and I really like that tip but the only option close to this quality tip is maybe a zan premium plus it is the most expensive
I have tried Zan Premium Softs a few times. Although the tip is of great quality and many friends of mine love them, it was too soft for me. As far as a comparison to a Sniper tip, it'll probably a little better than the Sniper tip. I will disclaimer this by letting you know that I have little experience with the Sniper tip, I only hit with it about 3 racks. Thanks for watching and for the comment!
@@PoolAddiction thank you sir
can you get this cue in any weight under 19oz? because on the website you can only get 19oz
I believe it has the option to put a weight bolt in. I’ll to look at the cue to double check.
I have been playing a standard deflection wood cue for many years and I want to go to carbon fiber. I have narrowed my search down to two cues, the CUPPA Technology Pool Cue with Low Deflection Carbon Fiber Shaft and the J.Flowers SABER 1 (Wrapless black) with the Aero Grade Carbon Fiber shaft.
Both are about equal in price with the J.Flowers coming in a little more but the CUPPA cue also provides you with a nice semi hard case and a few accessories.
I was hoping that someone here could give me some insight as to which would be the better option, if anyone has experience with either of these cues.
Thanks a lot!
Unfortunately this is the only J Flowers I have played with so I can't speak for the others. Hopefully, some of the viewers can give you some insight. Thanks for watching!
Have you purchases either one yet? If so please let me know how they are! I'm in a similar situation at the moment.
@@CrazyFlamesZero Hi Crazy! Well it was a hard decision made easier with the companies reputation (considering I could find almost nothing on CUPA). I went with the JFlowers Next Generation SABER 1 (Wrapless black, aero-grade carbon fiber shaft, 12.5 mm, 19 oz (I usually shoot 18 oz)) and have no regrets. It took a while to get used to the new cue, I never played with a carbon fiber, not even one game. The feel was very different but honestly it didn't take long and now I don't see myself ever going back to wood. It's like it was with Tennis, I played with wood for years and then the new graphite and composites came out and I dropped some hard earned cash on one. Yes, it felt different, yes I was not sure for a bit but then, I started to notice how it was improving my game and after not too long, it just felt right in my hand. This is EXACTLY the same, striking the ball, holding the cue, it all feels a little different at first, not uncomfortable, hard to explain, you just know something is..... different. But it does not take you long before you realize that your game has improved, you have more control on the cueball, your shots are more accurate, your power delivery, cueball finesse, everything improved, at least for me.
I am very happy with this cue and if I could be a spokesman for the company I would (sadly I am not at that level yet). I think if you go with a JFlowers Next Generation, you won't be disappointed.
Let me know what you end up doing!
@@andrewvautour1795 Thanks for the response! Glad to hear you're happy with it. I think I'm gonna have to get a JFlowers cue soon!
@@andrewvautour1795 - Glad you're happy with the JFlowers. I've played with the Konllen, Rhino, Predator P3, and a Crical carbon. Honestly, they are all pretty close and they hit fairly similarly. The Konllen is made in the same factory as the JFlowers from what I understand. I like the P3 a little better because the hit seem just a tad more soft (less vibration), but it may have been due to the soft Kamaui tip. The other cues has the standard tips that came with the cue. I'm not going to pay $1200 for a P3, so I will probably go with the JFlowers (Konllen) or the Rhino. The P3 did better than the JFlowers in the deflection test, but I don't think it justifies paying 4x the amount.
I tried to buy in their website..
most of the options is written (only us) want to buy a blue cue case (only in us) want to change the tip ( only in us). lol ...no options for players not in the us.... bravo for promoting you cue !!! lol I think I better look for other brands cue......😂
Sorry about them not having option for people outside of the US. I honestly don't know why they're only offering those options for US only. I know they are trying to make a splash in the US and may be they will eventually start offering those options once they focus elsewhere. Again sorry for the experience.
Nice Video and a nice looking cue.
For me it would be interesting if you could compare it with a high quality one for example a Cuetec Cynergy 15K.😉
Best wishes from Germany
Hey how you doing my friend! I think you’re reading my mind regarding future videos. I plan to do something like that some time in the future. One thing I forgot talk about in the video is the hit feel compared to other CF shafts. This hits similar to a Cynergy.
I'm fine. Doing a lot of practice with my Cynergy. Sometimes I think the cue is playing with me me and not vice versa. 😂
But it's getting better.
Stay healthy. Looking forward to your next video.
@@jorglenzen4927 🤣🤣🤣
Thanks for the review. However, most people watching videos on budget cues probably don't have alot of experience with predator cues. It is nice to see the similarities but when contrasting, and mentioning if a person is "used to a predator cue" it is unnecessary. Just food for thought and just my opinion. Either way thanks again for the review.
Thanks for the advice, When I was doing this review I was trying to curb all the comments about the comparison to the Predator cues. I will try to keep that in mind in the future. Thanks!
No problem. It was just a thought. No harm no foul.
Hola, cuando pruebas la marca tiger ?
Todavía no he probado Tiger. Yo podría uno de estos días.
@@PoolAddiction sería genial!
I just received mine recently. One question I haven’t seen is price and where can I get extra carbon fiber shaft. Questioned JFlowers and they gave me no answer. Almost wanted to send another whole cue. Do you know anything about this.
I 'haven't seen them sell a CF shaft separately or as a second shaft when buying a cue. Sorry, you haven't received any response from J Flowers. I reached out to the person I have been working with in hopes I can get you an answer.
@@PoolAddiction thank you so much . A second shaft just in case and no one else sells that joint nor do I want it.
Hi. What is the deflection like? Around cynergy, revo or any wood predator range?
I am about to put the part 2 video out in the next week or so but it is a little more deflection than the Cynergy
@@PoolAddiction ok thank. Great job on the videos!
Yea hundred dollars for these in Asia unbranded. Lot nicer cues for 300
Hi, my friend. Hope you're woing well and everything is okay. Is there a chance for a new video in the next time ? It's been five month now since the last one. Still waitung for Part 2 of the Review. Best Regards from Germany
Hi! I am doing well and nice to hear from you again. I really need to get finished the part 2 video. This summer has been non-stop and when I get free time, I am always getting sidetracked with something else but that's no excuse. I am almost done with it and I am going to re-focus on getting it done this month I promise. Thanks for checking with me and making sure I am still alive!🙂
Amazing video, was just wondering can you fit another shaft on this butt wouldn’t change my jacoby radial for the world but would love their butt !
Thanks
The 3/8 x 8 is essentially a radial joint so you can use radial joint shafts with it. I primarily use Radial joints on my main playing cue and I can fit my shaft on the J Flowers just fine. Thanks for watching and I am glad you liked the video!
*GLAD YOU DISCUSSED BUTT DIAMETERS. THAT IS SO IMPORTANT AND NO ONE DISCUSSES THAT. PREDATORS ARE LIKE PENCIL THIN. WAY TOO THIN FOR ME. ALSO SOME CUE MNFR HAVE A NICE SIZE DIAMETER IN REAR OF BUTT, THEN THEY TAPER DOWN TOO THIN, AT FRONT OF WRAP. THATS WHY I STAY WITH JOSS. FRONT OF WRAP DOESNT GO INTO A PENCIL.*
YES! I don't like cues that are thin in the butt and rear-heavy. So much is talked about when it comes to shafts and tips that most people don't talk about the other parts that make up a cue. All of it has to come into balance with how you play and what you like. I need to do a video sometime on that. Thanks for the comment and for watching!
Do you like the black sight plate? I want to order a cue but undecided on the black or white sight plate
To be honest I’ve gotten used to a black plate. When I first started I really preferred a white one. I don’t think you’d disappointed with a white plate, it takes some getting used to not having a white like ferrule to held you sight the your shot. Hope that helps and thanks for watching!
I got the same cue with black stingray wrap best value for money
Agreed, best value out there.
It sounds like a great deal for a CF shaft cue at sub $300.
You get a lot for the price but they’ve already started going up so it may not be that price anymore.
Your the first person I’ve see that knows how to measure the tip. 👍🏼 I just received my cue today from them. Great video
If I order a cue from them. How long does it take to get it?
@@bjamesc1 7-10 days
Gonna make me buy one just to have one of the first ones, heh??? This will be a $500 set up before too long...Great bang for your buck !!
Lol, it is. We have to get together sometime and you can try it out.
@@PoolAddiction I ordered mine yesterday......let's shoot ...u can come see my stuff !!! I know u have the same equipment addiction that I have !!!
@@omaharich I will message you when I get some time.
Can that shaft(3/8 x 8 joint) fit on clasical radial joint butts?
Radial is Radial. It will fit 👍🏼
@@CueListings Thank you, have a nice day :)
Just got it. Only gripe is the extension when mated up is hella outta true
Wow, that’s good to know. I didn’t have the extension to try. Thanks for adding this comment, it very well may help someone out with their decision.
@@PoolAddiction no prob. I think it's just a crap design..while the extension and butt roll straight by themselves, they dont when attached. It looks to be the mating surfaces that's the problem- a 90 degree shoulder on the extension and a curved surface on the butt. Probably could be fixed on a lathe by curving the mating surface on the extension to match the curve of the butt lol
@@PoolAddiction just added a washer between the butt and the butt's grommet. Rolls almost perfect