Reynor vs Clem is the FASTEST StarCraft 2 I've ever seen...

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  • StarCraft 2 Tournament 2023 Masters Coliseum 6 (by World Team League) - Clem and Reynor meet in an epic duel in this incredibly close Terran vs Zerg series!
    StarCraft 2 Legacy of the Void - Masters Coliseum 6 by World Team League - Reynor (Zerg) vs Clem (Terran) - Best of 3
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  • @Jared-st7il
    @Jared-st7il 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +83

    “As a Frenchman he certainly knows how to make royalty uncomfortable” after the reaper harassing the Queen is amazing casting

    • @RYXPfan
      @RYXPfan 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      classic Winter xd

  • @lalakingo7
    @lalakingo7 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +56

    That has got to be the highest skilled game I have watched in a very long time. The first game felt like 0 mistakes made from either side for the most of it. And Clems perfect micro was insane.

    • @proactivex
      @proactivex 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      that shit was exhausting. I need a nap.

    • @michaelharder3055
      @michaelharder3055 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You floored med with that one. It's insane.@@proactivex

  • @jurellgray2674
    @jurellgray2674 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +119

    These dudes did more actions in one game than I do in a month

    • @CroPro8901
      @CroPro8901 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      💀

    • @michaelharder3055
      @michaelharder3055 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      How many of the approximately 3 actions per turn is relevant? Not trolling, just asking.

    • @natanaelvicenteferreira590
      @natanaelvicenteferreira590 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Probably, most of them, if you think about it, fast firing creep or spamming zerglings in 0.5 seconds vs 0.1 seconds genuinely does matter in such a fast paced game. It's the reason they can max out in such a short amount of time and keep up with production of units, fighting, creeping, changing camera positions, etc. Someone way better at SC2 than me can give more input on this, probably

    • @michaelharder3055
      @michaelharder3055 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Appreciate the input. I was just wondering when selecting a scout and then spam clicking the hell out of move orders. But I see your point the way the game is played.

    • @natanaelvicenteferreira590
      @natanaelvicenteferreira590 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@michaelharder3055 You have a point, early game pro players don't need that much apm, but it helps with "warming up" for when it's actually needed :)

  • @kevinchang5082
    @kevinchang5082 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    The baneling mines blowing up the marines and the rocks was class

  • @JollyGreenWizard
    @JollyGreenWizard 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    47:37 Reynor transfuses a creep tumor. Probably a misclick, as Susan was at 1/4 health right next to it, but that was hilarious

  • @ThatsHekkaz
    @ThatsHekkaz 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Awesome casting winter, you always keep the excitement alive. That was one of the best series I've seen in a long time. If only it was Bo7.

  • @Golinth
    @Golinth 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    0 SCV loss in the first game is insane. Clem had him on lockdown

    • @MrOceansEleven
      @MrOceansEleven 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And that without cyclones 😮

  • @wischmopps293
    @wischmopps293 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    13:50 - sums the problem with ghosts pretty up. They much pretty up: they are too beefy

  • @____GoMeZ____
    @____GoMeZ____ 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    just an incredible display of talent. I dont understand how SC3 isnt in production watching this, because its a testament to players passion for RTS.

  • @RYXPfan
    @RYXPfan 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I think one of the big reasons Winter's castings are so addicting to watch is because the players are made more personal from the player cards.
    It's made it a lot easier to identify the unique personalities behind the names at a glance :)

  • @WolfGangDealers
    @WolfGangDealers 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Man, for a match having the two quickest players, this sure is a long one! Looking forward to this one as always

  • @olivermeigs9428
    @olivermeigs9428 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    that last fight of game 1 clem split his hellbats to amazing effect, god damn he's good!

  • @cmm3338
    @cmm3338 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Such insane levels of multi tasking on display here.

  • @blockboygames5956
    @blockboygames5956 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Reaper Micro... it doesn't get any better than that," says WinterStarcraft.
    *In the distance, a wild Byun coughs.

  • @Rcoutme
    @Rcoutme 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2:03 Regicide!
    2:30 The Royal assassins pay for their crime!

  • @legoupil1819
    @legoupil1819 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My favourite matchup.
    Incredible players that have so much back and forth.

  • @BinxyBrown
    @BinxyBrown 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Clem makes this match up look impossible sometimes. Hes so fast

    • @cavemantero
      @cavemantero 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      it is impossible...for pretty much every terran except for him and byun

    • @Daniel-rd6st
      @Daniel-rd6st 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Year, Clem is a player, if he has an advantage, he wont stop, give his opponent zero time to breath. Players like Serral or Maru play more carefull i think, preffering to pull back after a fight and remaxing before going again.

    • @Jez4prez1
      @Jez4prez1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Daniel-rd6stmomentum terran. Other top Terrans can do it also, but it's more just an overt timing push or something. Clem kind of takes the momentum thing to high risk levels and becomes unrelenting, Byun can do this too. But idk, I'm kind of just making things up, but it feels this way at least lol.
      I've seen Maru and Cure go berserk mode but when they do it, it feels more like they opt for insane multiprong. Less relentless sieging and pushing with entire army. Like you said, they will pull back etc. Clem just won't stop lol.

    • @Daniel-rd6st
      @Daniel-rd6st 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh sure, other Terrans do it too, Heromarine would be another example of a terran player, who likes to keep the pain train running, but few do it as well as Clem and Byun 🙂@@Jez4prez1

  • @cameronsalyer7442
    @cameronsalyer7442 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    What a badass series. Great cast as usual

  • @bootysauce_
    @bootysauce_ 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love being able to see on the minimap where the players are looking!

  • @georgeromaniajr.2680
    @georgeromaniajr.2680 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent game 3, wow. Burrowed babe use throughout the series was exceptional. Bravo to both players.

  • @mikehebert71
    @mikehebert71 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "As a Frenchman he certainly knows how to make royalty uncomfortable" 10/10

  • @konstantinalpatov1221
    @konstantinalpatov1221 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fantastic player intro. Keep up the work!

  • @tbone8358
    @tbone8358 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Thanks Winter you rock!

  • @kopperhed4472
    @kopperhed4472 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "The French and royalty" was a masterclass joke. I applaud you, sir.

  • @ExtendedVersion
    @ExtendedVersion 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great action packed game and great cast 👏😃

  • @ih8mylife
    @ih8mylife 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That hot swap has hilarious!! XD

  • @Zazyr
    @Zazyr 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ridiculous skill on both players... Particularly impressed with Clem. The level of control is amazing, absolute champion.

  • @johntucket9221
    @johntucket9221 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    3:30 - there was no gap in the wall when he switched the fac/rax

  • @l4unchp4dgaming38
    @l4unchp4dgaming38 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Adventures of Brenda continues. I love this story.

  • @anotherplatypus
    @anotherplatypus 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I watch a lot of TH-cam, but you're the only one I'll click 'like' on every video everyday.... keep it up

  • @TritonTv69420
    @TritonTv69420 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    1121! I guessed it right! Damn Clem is so good. Reynor did everything you are supposed to but I think in game 1 he needed more lurkers way faster. The banes didnt do their job. a huge line or lurkers would have mitigated the snipes better. 31:55 that was badass! I swear Reynor is my favorite player. He did it again!!! kaboom!!! @ 49:00 and again!! 50:29
    ok f in the chat for this one.... 55:05 That made me sad for Reynor. That ultra went through so much and to go out like that. Poor guy. haha.
    Great cast winter. I delayed going to work for this one hahaha. GG!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @doublecrossedswine112
      @doublecrossedswine112 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Reynor is the king. MaxPax is the prince. Gumiho is the first knight.

    • @TritonTv69420
      @TritonTv69420 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@doublecrossedswine112and winter is the jester 🤡 haha

    • @rocobrasaure
      @rocobrasaure 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@doublecrossedswine112 And Clem (as french guy), the Revolution !

    • @doublecrossedswine112
      @doublecrossedswine112 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@rocobrasaure Clem is my 4th fav. He is awesome. When Gumibro retires Clem will be terran first knight for sure.

    • @rocobrasaure
      @rocobrasaure 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@doublecrossedswine112 For now he is considered as the best terran of Europe and is my favorite (and not because i'm french but because i love his playstyle). I think he can become terran knight before Gumiho leaving. Few years ago, a lot said "he will never beat Seraal or Reynor" and now his victories (and defeats) against both are legendaries.

  • @christianpackard8674
    @christianpackard8674 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    your reminder of liking the video... always makes me like the video. especially the way you do it. And sometimes I just go back and like every other video I havent liked to as well.

  • @freshsmilely
    @freshsmilely 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    that last game was so good.

  • @loudaccord
    @loudaccord 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Those two are too good.

  • @n0madfernan257
    @n0madfernan257 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Super Jampacked Action, Bring some snacks

  • @tyrellwreleck4226
    @tyrellwreleck4226 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    3:05 that's a milisecond from losing the game

    • @ThatsHekkaz
      @ThatsHekkaz 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Such a wicked exchange

  • @lukecc1097
    @lukecc1097 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love your content @winterstarcraft!!!! Btw is Ludicrous speed a nod to the movie Spaceballs?

  • @Magjes
    @Magjes 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for video 🎉

  • @rocobrasaure
    @rocobrasaure 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Desplancito !

  • @GrippeeTV
    @GrippeeTV 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    “Marginally better than me, arguably”
    Winter that’s like the Karen arguing with the customer service reps that she should get free shipping on a $12 order

  • @watervapor42
    @watervapor42 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ya! that's fast

  • @Pabu69
    @Pabu69 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bro I watch your videos like every night before bed. U are so funny. Thanks for a videos.

  • @vincevdam
    @vincevdam 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That micro is insane

  • @spencerbeard3904
    @spencerbeard3904 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Papers fly as Paper Airplanes

  • @1389Chopin
    @1389Chopin 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Like the new hook

  • @wischmopps293
    @wischmopps293 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    About apm and Zerg: it's not really inflated. Do the math: Let's say someone did 1000 lings in 5 minutes. That would be 500 larva and 500 klicks. That would increase the apm just by 50.. And nobody does 1000 lings in 5 minutes. Add 50 creep tumors in 5 minute and you increase the apm by 5-10.

  • @CroPro8901
    @CroPro8901 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like your thumbnails, they can be pretty funny

  • @lucastaffolani8087
    @lucastaffolani8087 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    if we obtain those likes i'll cast another series... and i'll probably do anyways.
    Can't wait to hear this in every game

  • @cathulionetharn5139
    @cathulionetharn5139 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank You
    Om nom nom

  • @danielbolin2361
    @danielbolin2361 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Papers don't fly? Methinks you forget the humble paper airplane good sir...

  • @theoriginaljealot5946
    @theoriginaljealot5946 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice matchup. Was rooting for Clem and glad to see he pulled through.

  • @DevilWearsAdidas
    @DevilWearsAdidas 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    You know, they could make a change that would really make terran not so much of a huge late game threat with ghosts. Give EMP to ravens. EMP and cloak and snipe and nuke on ghosts is just ridiculous. been saying that since 2013

  • @rvgr12
    @rvgr12 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Winter is probably the only TH-camr that I click the like button on simply because of how he asks 😂

  • @vidsyn1261
    @vidsyn1261 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    tyty for dis vids

  • @heldenkatze
    @heldenkatze 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Terran efficiency is crazy.

  • @cosmicpotato3409
    @cosmicpotato3409 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Clem was outstanding in first match.

  • @mathieulefebvre6387
    @mathieulefebvre6387 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    damm thats some skill and dedication into a game XD im not even 1/100 close to that hahaha

  • @astrofun4221
    @astrofun4221 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    you really want us to believe you just realised they where top players Mr Angry coach?/ no way haha

  • @jakebrewable
    @jakebrewable 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How often do these guys have to replace their keyboards and wrists?

  • @sofienkhamlich3564
    @sofienkhamlich3564 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    not a single parasitic from the vipers, could ve been a game changer

  • @moda112
    @moda112 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Susan! :0

  • @AIBotnot
    @AIBotnot 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Meanwhile, Protoss deathball 30 apm

  • @michaelhellwig421
    @michaelhellwig421 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Biles OP!

  • @Leonhart_93
    @Leonhart_93 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Holding that zergling and marine buttons on rapid fire at insane repeat rates does wonders for that fake APM. Protoss never had this "problem" because of it.

    • @doublecrossedswine112
      @doublecrossedswine112 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah protoss never rapid fires its warp ins - you tell em noob

    • @Leonhart_93
      @Leonhart_93 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@doublecrossedswine112 They do but that's half or a quarter of the amount of units.

    • @doublecrossedswine112
      @doublecrossedswine112 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Leonhart_93 So it isn't fake amp if its making units. I mean come on man, you watched these games. Ignoring every game mechanic and just looking at the army movements alone - all over the map - you can clearly see how insanely fast these guys are. It is unreal speed with impossible control. Just chill on the disrespect and appreciate the greatness of these players.

    • @Leonhart_93
      @Leonhart_93 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@doublecrossedswine112 I know but 1000+ APM is bonkers, I don't care how fast they are. The only way to get that at times is rapid fire actions. Unless you think you can click and press keys over 16 times per second.

    • @AxelTT555
      @AxelTT555 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Leonhart_93they do not just rapid fire. they also tinker with windows registry. once you tried this, there's not coming back. i am forced to switch to this mode even in coop lol. playing zergs like abathur. otherwise everything feels too sluggish. but this is more important to zerg rather than terran, i guess. to morph 50 banes in a matter of 10 or 20 ms rather than 500ms or even a second. i guess zerg APM is quite more inflated by rapid fire mechanics. that's why terrans 450 APM is absolutely crazy. while even diamond zerg like me can easily hit 300+ with reduced delays. I guess pro keep it on 100ms repeat delay and 1ms repeat rate. workable windows setting for programming id say is 250ms repeat delay and 25ms repeat rate. and yes this software is completely legal in sc world. as well as rapid fire itself.

  • @Makgath
    @Makgath 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sometimes i wonder why Protoss players put money into the adepts, then just drop them out of the comp? Looking up the numbers, I'd think they are still good to mix in if you're mainly fighting ground lights, like zerglings.

  • @MrCreed145
    @MrCreed145 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Clem is pissed about the Gerald match and has probably been playing till his fingers bleed. Gerald was good but Clem was off.

  • @redangel6217
    @redangel6217 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Where the actual APM numbers at ? or am i blind?

  • @jennifer_dreamzzz
    @jennifer_dreamzzz 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    😎

  • @michaczarnocki181
    @michaczarnocki181 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    youngest summary age compared to skill lvl

  • @FallenRobot
    @FallenRobot 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How come Hydralisks are rarely used vs air?

    • @kalo8524
      @kalo8524 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Cause they're bad

    • @ThatsHekkaz
      @ThatsHekkaz 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They're slow and squishy (at this level)

    • @FallenRobot
      @FallenRobot 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ah thanks :)

  • @panda5996
    @panda5996 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    0:25
    Clem’s card did not get legendary status…

  • @rocketrockinit
    @rocketrockinit 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Team Clem

  • @Hazza32
    @Hazza32 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Babyface legends. Pre-serral this level of play from foreigners was almost unfathomable

  • @july9566
    @july9566 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just got back on starcraft after a 4 year hiatus , man does anyone use thors in pro circuits anymore ?

    • @kalo8524
      @kalo8524 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Late game yes. Clem isn't really a late game player so he tends to delays that transition. It's mostly used for mutas and brood lords.

  • @user-nr5tj4iv8l
    @user-nr5tj4iv8l 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Скажем так его никто никогда неузнает... Стучался.

  • @gokhanyuksel3782
    @gokhanyuksel3782 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Breaking their keyboards?

  • @GameFuMaster
    @GameFuMaster 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    8:00 siege tanks feel so UP, doesn't feel like they actually add enough for their cost

    • @ButterKnight-mg7bg
      @ButterKnight-mg7bg 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think the only reason they haven't been buffed is that the rest of Terran is so absurd.

    • @marcjacob6960
      @marcjacob6960 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's deceptive. The tanks actually do a lot of work, but on top of that they're also VERY useful at forcing the zerg to push the terran instead of the contrary. This allows Terran to pre place their units somewhat.

    • @Leonhart_93
      @Leonhart_93 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You are imagining things, they did a lot of damage and forced a much worse engage from the zerg than otherwise, since they had to prioritize the tanks. Every time they fired, like 150 HP was gone from that army.

    • @kalo8524
      @kalo8524 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They look bad because every other Terran unit is drastically OP

    • @GameFuMaster
      @GameFuMaster 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ButterKnight-mg7bgi think siege tanks are really just an anti-marine thing. Like, if a mass of marines were to charge into a group of tanks, they would actually evaporate

  • @CantusTropus
    @CantusTropus 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For the algorithm

  • @jakeshort1991
    @jakeshort1991 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Most matches I skip to the ~4 minute mark or later.
    Never with Clem and Reynor.
    To them it's a sprint, not a marathon... then they switch to marathon maybe.
    They are non-stop is my point.

  • @hakluz
    @hakluz 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jimmi isn’t real

  • @wcjerky
    @wcjerky 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This cast was not in plaid. I am disappointed.

  • @SawyerKnight
    @SawyerKnight 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can we get them tested for steroids plz??

  • @jtaylor3609
    @jtaylor3609 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If ain’t Byun I don’t want it.

  • @asdf-bm4df
    @asdf-bm4df 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    38000 views, 2000 likes. Most are likely stupified by all the wittiness and skill bombarding them.

  • @philipdillon83
    @philipdillon83 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    FIRST!!!!!

  • @Star-ef6dr
    @Star-ef6dr 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I'm tired of watching medivacs constantly picking up units that are completely out of position for free.
    And why in a top tier pro game do ultras look useless, fungels nothing more than an annoyance and vipers minimal impact???

    • @HrHaakon
      @HrHaakon 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Because of Serral. We don't want him to win everything.

    • @fierzali6297
      @fierzali6297 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I don't know what game you're watching. Vipers are likely the most impactful spellcaster across all 3 races. All 3 of it's abilities are crazy powerful, and also the only unit that can replenish mana.

    • @vox5505
      @vox5505 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@fierzali6297 No. ​That's Ghosts. By a MASSIVE, game-ruining margin. Then at a distant second Oracles, and then Vipers in third, slightly behind Oracles.

    • @louisdrouard9211
      @louisdrouard9211 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And queens though

  • @willeatpants7691
    @willeatpants7691 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    TERRRRRRRAAAAAAANNNNNN!!!

  • @friedNchips
    @friedNchips 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The terrans benefit tremendously in terms of resources.
    Thanks to MULE, I spend less resources on SCV and only have 1 type of mechanic shield-up, so there is a lot of resource benefit
    The scanning range is also very wide.
    Blizzard have to block the Battle Cruiser for 5 seconds from using the Yamato Cannon and Tactical Jump
    LIBERATOR & Ghost Sniper so OOOOOOPPPPPP.
    On the other hand, Protoss & Zerg need to invest more in ground and air defense upgrades respectively
    Even Zerg & Protoss' defense towers cannot recover resources, but Terran has another resource benefit with the bunker recovery function
    In terms of resources, Protoss & Zerg are at a huge disadvantage overall
    The zerg is still garbage
    INFESTOR skill Deleted but Ghost skill always non Deleted!!!!WTH!
    Zerg units are expensive to upgrade and take a long time to complete
    The tech building is also expensive, but you have to invest 50 more minerals called drones there and pay 50 minerals again to produce the lost drone
    Are the zerg a cheap tribe? Fukshieeeeet. Zerg most expensive and inefficient tribe
    Zerg adds minerals and gas when transforming units
    No race is more expensive than the Zerg
    One last thing on my mind.
    Terran Cyclone & Battle Cruiser can auto-attack
    Protoss Phoenix & Carrier can auto-attack
    Zerg have no such units
    Blizzard needs to patch these issues quickly
    nonono, please delete the zerg
    SC2 only requires Terran and Protoss
    Blizzard Always just trash balance thank you so much!

  • @I3orrovv
    @I3orrovv 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have never understood the obsession with APM. We know these are bloated APMS, this is not the speed at which players interact with the game. Every opening second of the game is stuffed with pointless actions to bloat the APM. Even if we weren't bloating APM, that wouldn't really be a good indication of skill or efficiency. What would be MOST IMPRESSIVE would be someone who consistently wins with LOW APM - this would mean every action they take has real utility and purpose. "Fastest players in the game" based on APM is a pointless metric.

    • @ThatsHekkaz
      @ThatsHekkaz 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If APM was pointless than low APM would also be pointless.

    • @I3orrovv
      @I3orrovv 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ThatsHekkaz I didn't say APM was pointless, I said bloated APM is pointless. Low APM would show efficiency in action, assuming you also win consistently.

    • @motan7864
      @motan7864 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@I3orrovv whatch them play in fpv, you'll see that tehse apm's are NOT wasted

    • @rocobrasaure
      @rocobrasaure 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "What would be MOST IMPRESSIVE would be someone who consistently wins with LOW APM" Its because SC2 is more a micro/macro game than a strategical/tactical one. In total war (for exemple), strong APM is a good thing but not as relevant as tactical decision.

  • @Psylent6
    @Psylent6 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I know not all of you play but fuck sake... there are way too many cheaters in this game now... literally unplayable. Some periods of time will be smurfs 10 games in a row. Then there's the super fishy players I can tell if they are hacking or not because this game has VERY limited anti cheat measures that I'm pretty sure only aim at hacks that are used in mass or "public" so custom made hacks go mostly unnoticed ESPECIALLY since there's no longer any real funding for the game and its continued existence other life support and community patches aimed at the top 20~ players.

  • @villz1267
    @villz1267 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Why would anyone play anything but Terran in this imbalanced game LOL.... It's been ridiculous since S1 in WoL

    • @vox5505
      @vox5505 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      This third game is such a sad example of the state of this game. Reynor playing circles around Clem, while slowly losing a war of attrition because "WINDOWMEMES LULZ"

    • @villz1267
      @villz1267 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@vox5505 Its understandable why people would still rather play Broodwar than this tbh..... David Kim was a trainwreck for blizzard and destroyedddd all their IP's he touched

  • @stefanwarmuth5251
    @stefanwarmuth5251 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Speed upgrades 33% stronger" shouldnt it be. "Zergling upgrades apply to player hands." It is clear he has zerglign speed. and in late game some adrenaline boosts as well.

  • @RaphaelManalo
    @RaphaelManalo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mistakes or not, it alway amazes me how non-pro players feel like they know better than actual pro players... go out there & play against them since u know so well.. 😂 but, of course, u won't right? Right... so yeah..