You have to put on some solder and heat both the pad and the solder surface on the resistor anyways. By the way for Jay, if you read it. Soldering isn't about sticking something on something, but creating a low resistance connection between both surfaces. In case of this resistor it should be fine as 5 MOhm wouldn't transfer much current anyways. But if you try this on anything else. Please just go ahead an use some of that fucking solder. :D
**presses the soldering iron onto the edge of the resistor package** **somehow the resistor sticks to the pads, probably just held in place with the strength of good intentions** "I think we could have fixed it without soldering it at all" dude i think that's exactly what you did
Im not sure if you meant this as a joke but im pretty sure he heated the solder before and then pressed the resistor onto it... with the soldering iron because its easier than swapping to something else quickly
@@Nyiati There was no solder on those pads. What Jay should have done was to add new solder on all of those pads, so it would form small beads and then put the resistor on that and heat it. He put a resistor on top of a barely tinned pad and then nearly cooked it. This is just as well done as sticking it with hot glue
@@Nyiati Even if the iron is heated, you can tell the pads need some flux because a) the solder isn't sticking to it when he tried to tin the pads b) the resistor keeps falling off after "soldering" it
@@hexedhero6159 you can see at 6:20 that the solder doesn't sticks to the pads while trying to tin them, so, no, he is just using whatever was left in the pads
@@schlafanzyk most things would be better, problem with non specific "potting" is that they can shrink as they cool or cure..stressing the connection they are supposed to protect.
@@mightyORFEN uh when you do this you trash the tip. Literally not salvageable. It won’t heat uniformly, nor hold solder well at all. You’re supposed to Tin the tip before each use and while you’re using it, which I’m sure you don’t do if you sanded the ducking tip lol
Jayztwocents: I'm not a noob at soldering Also jayztwocents: no flux, shaves the coating of the iron tip without re-tinning it, fails to see that both pads are supposed to be bridged, and fails to actually solder anything Me: I disagree Edit: spelling
It might be doable without solder if he put some flux there. Solder would have made it way easier though! It's a great example of how NOT to solder, which is a shame because its actually pretty easy.
Waiting for the "Louis Reacts to Jayztwocents Titan RTX Repair" video. For one, he's gonna scream cause he used liquid metal on the Resistor anyways. I've literally watched him rant for 30 minutes over this subject on livestream.
I have 1 frome Harbor Freight 1 from Lowe's and a butane one from Home Depot.... so far the weller from Lowe's has been my favorite... also the most expensive. point is you get what you pay for...
@@deathkiller008 There is a TH-camr called Project Farm who does really good testing on all kinds of products. I have no clue if he has done soldering irons before, but does other products. Which really helps me decide what is the best bang for buck item.
For a guy who goes to microcenter every 3rd video, you would think he'd remember that microcenter has a ton of soldering gear. Like RadioShack used to. Idk maybe it's too far of a drive
fixed is fixed, you made it very clear that you dont recommend doing it this way, and would send to a pro. you had a $2500 paperweight when the video started, and a working GPU when it ended.
@@somedude2492 Probably... I mean there are only like 5-6 topics to go over that wouldn't take more than 2-5 minutes a piece to explain, but Rossmann does know how to stretch things out. :D
JayzTwoCents: TH-camrs, there's three ways to do things. The right way, the wrong way and the JayzTwoCents way! TH-camrs: Isn't that the wrong way? JayzTwoCents: Yeah, but faster!
@Mal McKee I learned to solder before TH-cam was a thing. But I looked at Louis his Videos where he reflow soldered, and thought huh that is easy. And so I try it and yes its freaking easy. Jay just had to look one or more Videos from Louis to learn to solder. Its not that difficult, I teach 6 years old to solder (Through hole and SMD) and they get it.
You really shouldn't need a video on how to solder to figure out that you put the iron to the parts you actually want soldered together, not the far end of the part. Even the me from when I couldn't even build a stupid radio kit correctly would be like "are you stupid?"
@Mal McKee I would let a 6 year old never solder alone, always with supervision. Still they are not that stupid than you think. I have taught a lot of children soldering, and 11 year old I usually also teach to solder QFP Packages and similar.
Hey Jay, that is a shunt resistor. It has 2 terminals on both sides so that one has the high current passing through it while the other allows a controller to measure the voltage drop directly across the resistive element. Its not a big deal if a solder blob bridges that since they are connected anyway. It will affect accuracy but it shouldn't be a big deal.
One word, "Flux." Actually a couple more words: hot air soldering station or soldering tongs/tweezers. But if you must do it with a soldering iron, lightly 'tin' one pad and add a little more solder to the other, then with the solder molten on the pad with more since the SMD component down into it, old it in place till it cools and then just add some solder back to the other pad (which should be pretty easy since it already was 'tinned').
@@spaggtrait1608 agreed, just not the easiest method for someone not knowing what they are doing. It can be done with a soldering iron but it's harder.
Flux... and a temperature controllable soldering iron! Using an off the shelf Weller that has no temperature control, unknown solder AND no Flux is asking for extra trouble. Goodness, he could have just grabbed a KSGER at Amazon which comes with many different tips for only $85 and it would have given him temperature control (plus he could have bought flux and high Silver [Ag] solder at the same time).
I've done it before, but it would have helped him to learn how to solder. If he would have the tinning of that tip, he would've seen some kind of result. This was sad when you consider he's doing videos on TH-cam, the very place he could actually learn to prep his work and tools.
@@Aint1S Jay is more and more becoming the pander to the morons of the tech world channel. He doesn't even care to run proper benchmarks with variable reduction procedures and seems to add MORE variables instead.
Waiting for the "Louis Reacts to Jayztwocents Titan RTX Repair" video. For one, he's gonna scream cause he used liquid metal on the Resistor anyways. I've literally watched him rant for 30 minutes over this subject on livestream.
My roommate once tried to hang a chalkboard with a small shelf by hammering a tiny screw into the wall. It stayed up just fine until he put his keys on the shelf.
@@waigl1845 False. You should not hang anything on a screw. A screw is used for tightening, it is not built to handle shear forces. A nail can actually bend when a screw just snaps off.
I was the exact same when I first started soldering. Jay clearly didn't try very hard when googling since 90% of Louis' videos show him doing this exact task... But I digress :P, even with videos the only way to get used to the "feel" of soldering is to just do a few hard jobs. All the other comments pointed out the issues, but here it is again. 1. the solder never got hot enough, partly because the sanded tip is no longer "tinned" with solder, partly because there wasn't enough mass of the tip in contact with the component, partly because that iron sucks. 2. Fluxed solder isn't enough flux, buy some goop separately. 3. MOST IMPORTANLY. This job is typically done with a heat gun, NOT a soldering iron, of course it isn't working well. This is a very good video for Jay to make, please post more and continue learning and bettering your computer skills with your audience. It's worth turning into a series.... but also, take some time to actually get your studio finished and all your crap moved over!
Hearing Louis multiple triggering while watching this is VERY funny. ''You stabbed it onto the board''. When seeing the glue, ''What the f**k is that? WHAT THE F**K is that? NO...NO...STOP IT!'' Etc. etc.
@@churblefurbles not to mention the connection was really poor, I ws cringing when he said "super glue" I could imagine superglue would just get right under the connection insulating it and mean it would be broken again only now with a layer of superglue to try get off the board......not too hard if you know what your doing but I could see him breaking out a drummer and ripping the pads off
Glue Gun: Here, I've melted some glue to hold your part in place GPU: Oh thanks! VRMs and other GPU doodads: *I can melt it back for you if you'd like*
Except the heatsink isn't the hot part heating things up, it'd be the component under it or something nearby more likely to melt it. Especially since NO HEATSINK is going to reach the temperatures it takes to melt hot glue gun glue.
@@shawnpitman876 I googled and found the average hot glue to melt at around 80 degrees and noticed that Jay was "fixing" a titan rtx which with a heatsink cooler, can definitely get to 80 degrees no sweat so I don't know if your "NO HEATSINK CAN MELT HOT GLUE" statement might hold true
@edson oliveira de carvalho Which is why I said the component itself would do it. But to say the HEATSINK will goes to show how fucking STUPID this guy is. Also when he tries to come at me with "a titan can hit 80c easy!" when that's GPU CORE TEMP, NOT HEATSINK TEMP.
I worked at Radio Shack as they went out of business. It was my favorite job because i could help people who wanted to fix things with their own hands and learn the process. I met some of the most ingenious people in those days. Love this videos Jay!
"This is probably really difficult for experts to watch." yes it was really difficult to see you sanding the tip of the soldering iron, dude that thing hurt my heart and my eyes
Looks at length of copper / brass rod in my garage that I've been cutting, sanding, and using on occasions. . . fresh solder tends to fill up the craters that form. lol (If I used it more than say once a year, I think I'd buy a new iron and some new tips.)
I can already hear EEVBlog's rant in his voice: "What are you doing? First, you need the right tools, and second, you need the skills to use the tools, or you'll just muck about making things worse! It's a US$2500 gpu, I don't understand why someone would do that."
5:20 BIG NOOO!!! The soldering iron tips have a special metal layer on the outside, when you remove it, it becomes more prone to oxidation and its life time and soldering quality drops significantly.
If anyone's watching this; soldering iron tips usually come pre-coated with something to make the tin stick better to it. You should probably pre-tin the iron a good couple of times and wipe off to get a good coating on there before first use.
" I probably didn't need to solder it, I might have just been able to use super glue or hot glue to hold it in place." No Jay. Just no. 1. The two contact pads on each side of the resistor are shorted by the resistor anyways, so don't worry about that. 2. Put some fresh solder on those pads so you have a nice smooth silver hill of solder on each pad 3. Put your resistor on top and just heat the solder again
this works if you blow hot air via hotair soldering, but he used an iron solder, so better is to start with one side then solder the other side or you'll end up with an uneven resistor.
@@arketsjenkins5016 While true, I am 100% sure that Jay is not worried about a resistor that's not planar. It would be a real challenge to get solder that wide on the pad with the resistor in place. Jay would have been more successful with some flux I think.
No that resistor is there for a reason, if you just solder the connection it will bridge them But without the resistance of the resistor the current might be to high and destroy something else that is connected to it
Absolutely not. That resistor is part of a voltage divider circuit within the board. This means that it needs to have a certain resistor value to get the desired output. If you just bridge the contacts, the outcome is completely unpredictable. It would probably kill the card.
"This is probably difficult for experts to watch." I'm a pretty noob level hobbyist and I was cringing. I could feel the reflow station in my toolbox glowing like steel in a forge. Watching you try this fix was like watching somebody try to cut a tree down with a shovel. Yeah it can be done but... axes exist...
@@RobertGoddard86 IMO a chainsaw in this analogy would be a professional SMD reflow setup. A hot air station isn't ideal for the task, but it's a tool that is designed to do it.
Having broken and repaired my 980 hybrid, I can say this is no easy task. Took me a month of practice and getting the right tools and flux (Rossman group) to fix it. Eventually did find and replace a bad resistor and a transistor. Both were smaller than a grain of rice.
You don't have to be an engineer to become proficient with soldering. Before watching you do this, Jay, I want to say that I believe in you. You *CAN* do this.
but it's a graphics card resistor, not a special macbook resistor that Louis always deals with, if Jay followed his videos he could have accidentally converted that video card into a mac
@@DeeSnow97 I know you're being sarcastic, but this is a surface mounted resister so any video showing how to solder surface mounted components should give you an idea of what expect. For anyone looking in the future
Yea, relax. People are just going to fuck up their hardware doing something stupid now, then find a way to RMA it even though it wasn't the companies fault their hardware doesn't work, which leads to the continued inflation of hardware prices due to them needing to cover people being asshats and RMAing their fuck-ups. No big deal or anything.
@@jacobwebb8818 Its called paying someone who isn't going to bodge the job, moron. You can easily find someone to solder a shunt onto a card without fucking it up for less than $50. But this is going to encourage morons to moron it up then RMA and cost EVERYONE.
Shawn Pitman when a product is sent in for an RMA, doesn’t the company inspect it to see if it qualifies? Seems unlikely they’d just issue a refund because you send it in.
I’m certainly here for some good'ol Jay entertainment and as it's been said once or twice before, sometimes there is no better way to learn than from your own mistakes. Maybe it's just my own personal process of thinking but in my opinion, when someone gains experience with a lower-class toolset, at a minimum opens up an opportunity to get that like gratification and appreciation when migrating from a lower-grade tool to what can seem like magic in your hand type of tool. A priceless experience every time.
You MUST remove the old gallium solder first. When you filed the tip down you destroyed it as solder wont flow on it like it should. You need more flux or proper flux core LEAD solder
Questionator Solder wick... Edit: Never worked with gallium solder before though. Maybe it doesn't work with that? Never actually heard of gallium solder.
@@caddyguy5369 The gallium isn't from the solder, its from the liquid metal they had put on the shunt before knocking it off. Liquid metal = gallium and indium.
Guys, if he used solder tin on the PCB pad and used a solder sucker, to remove the solder, it would be fine already. Of course it's not right tool, but it would be fine, and his preoccupation about the 2 pads bridging was wrong. As soon as you solder the resistor on top of it, it's bridging.
@@caddyguy5369 gallium contaminated/infused solder. It goes in to the solder structure and destroys it. He used liquid metal (gallium indium and tin) to shunt the resistor and when trying to remove it the gallium has softened the solder so it just fell off
*actually putting fresh solder onto the pads to get the resistor to solder on easily? * J2C: nah *literally roasting the resistor to get it to stick slightly onto the PCB? * J2C: Hell yea boi
5:10 - : "the tip of the soldering iron is too big". Me : "that's not a soldering iron that's a drill?!" - : *rotates drill and files the tip* Me : ° o °
That resistor is really big for a reason, a lot of current passes through it. Those very weak solder joints that he made are not going to be good at passing current and might even heat up enough to melt the solder.
hey jay! please make a series of fixing broken things! should be awesome! electro-tip: "Whenever you solder a THT (Thru Hole Tecnology), place the tip to heat up the surface, than while heating, put solder and let melt. You can tell if it soldered when it forms a even and shiny joint of solder. In case of SMT (Surface Mount Tecnology), put solder in one of the pads, then in one pads of the component, grab the component, melt the solder in PCB, place the component while melting, then you should not have any problem in making the second pad." the major problem in your job is could have a bad contact in the resistor. it may create great voltage spikes if it have a bad contact and burn something else. BTW!!! i'm really happy that you've tried! and did relatively well... i guess.
@9:55 "That's the ugliest solder job" Yes,, to the point of me expecting you to stop the video and explaining this was just a prank, seriously! It was that bad. It hurt. It did cheer me up though, when you added the hot glue, because every true DIY video must have hot glue in it. This is just one of those unwritten rules, because otherwise you're just messing around. On a more serious note though, the glue will probably wreck the heat dissipation from that component, bringing up the resistance of it, which could lower the clock speeds because more resistance is apparently how Nvidia limits the power on the cards. So might be worth testing it again just to make sure, make sure that the heat doesn't just melt the glue, which then dribbles down onto,,whatever is under it. (and throttles the card) But, I thank you for showing us that you are human.
Soldering is Simple, Use a Flux Cleaner first to prep the Area to be worked on. Then when ready, make sure the Iron is Hot enough to Melt the Soldier properly, Protect the Surrounding Parts with a Lash of Electricians tape, then for a Resistor 2 Connections + and - Make sure to follow this, (Was a Certified Soldierer) now, Clean out the Place Holes where the Resistor goes of all Debris, Place the 1st Leg of the Resistor in and use the Flux Cleaner to Make the area cleaner around the Joint.
If you're buying an iron at the hardware store anyways, flux should be right next to it. It might be called "soldering paste" though, which is almost the same stuff, but since it's a paste instead of a fluid, it's a little harder to apply. But as uncle bumblefuck says: the bigger the blob, the better the job. Just don't forget to clean the stuff.
@@xureality No no no NO. Under no circumstances should you use soldering paste or whatever else kind of hardware store flux on electronics (unless it's specifically made for that use). 99% of the fluxes you will find are for plumbing and much too aggressive for electronics - remember that copper on PCBs is typically only 35um/0.00138" thick. Even the milder fluxes contain corrosive salts like zinc chloride or ammonium chloride, some go straight up to hydrochloric acid. Only fluxes worth using for fine work are rosin-based, R (rosin-only) or RMA (rosin mildly activated) types.
"Sucking at something is the first step to being sorta good at something." I'm a professional and yea, that solder job was a bit sketch, but kudos for having a go and getting a fix! It's easy for arm-chair technicians to tell you you did a bad job, but you've got to start somewhere!
I think the proper response to "what do we do with it now" is, send it to Rossmann so he can post a video undoing what Jay did and showing the proper way of doing this, then having Jay follow that tutorial in the future. Or, have Rossman come to Jay and show him how to do it right. Or vice versa.
Hello jay. I resently got my head hurt. I was in hospital for over a week. Your videos helped me recover from serious brain injurury. Thank you very much. I love you mate. Very much. Iwish you all the best. Barry From london.
Huh, first time I've seen someone so-called "fix" anything without tinning the tip nor wetting the pads.🤔 I guess he keeps his weed in his fridge because that's the frostiest joint I've ever seen. 🤣
these pc so called tech experts are the most stupid people on earth. including linus and jay and gamernexus the only one who seems to know his stuff is this guy who explains VRMs and this stuff and then he also have his fair share of stupid mistakes
wetting the pads first would have done little to actually help the integrity of the joint, as he did wet the pads and add a bit more solder to them, the biggest problem is he was using a standard soldering iron to try and attach it, where he really needed a hot air solder iron.
i'm a hobbyist and I screamed watching this! no flux! sanding the iron tip. heating the resistor instead of the pad! you put solder on one pad heat it put the resistor on and then solder the other end BY heating the PAD AND the resistor not just the resistor! also hotair can work
I got a job for a few years testing/repairing boards our company made before they shipped out. A game changer is the hot air gun. You can use tweezers to hold the resistor and just blow hot air on it to melt the solder. Its like a hair dryer on crack.
*"not everyone should have the right to repair, if this is how they're gonna do it"* One of the best anti right to repair reasonings I've heard so far.
Well, you own it, you can destroy it. And if you butcher it and then take it in for a repair, it's just going to be more expensive. It's really not an argument against at all.
Well, you own it, you can destroy it. And if you butcher it and then take it in for a repair, it's just going to be more expensive. It's really not an argument against at all.
The problem is that customers absolutely lie and say they did nothing and expect a warranty replacement. Or they sell it on ebay "barely used" and the person who buys it slams the manufacturer for their quality.
Actual electrical engineer here. You keep saying that you think electrical engineers are going to yell at you for doing stuff the wrong way. But the fact of the matter is, you took the cheapest possible tools and materials, improvised a way to modify them to do what you needed them to do, and then fixed a very complex thing in the simplest way possible and had it work exactly how you wanted it to. You did things the wrong way in exactly the right way, and that's exactly what a good engineer should aim to do.
"this is probably really difficult for experts to watch", yeah not just experts but experienced hobbyists as well :D Genuinely painful to watch. Hot glue isn't really gonna work in a warm environment such as a graphics card PCB.
I was watching this and have a good soldering iron, Jay will send you my soldering iron flux pen and solder. Please for gods sake stop doing what you are doing pleaseeeeeee.
I was curious about using hot glue on a PCB as well. I thought it got hot hot. 😂 but I accepted that he has far more experience. My judgement is based purely off reasoning. 🤷♀️
@@outka5tz It's not just about hot. Moderately warm and the hot glue starts losing integrity. And he admits himself, that he doesn't have a great deal of experience with electronics repairs :P The preferred method of gluing something down like that on a PCB is to use Kapton-tape.
What a funny coincidence: Just yesterday I tried a very similar thing for the first time in 20 years of building PCs. I received my used EVGA 780 Ti that I snatched for a really good price because it had a water cooler mounted to it, which nobody seems to want with a 780 Ti these days. When trying to put the original air cooler back on, I accidentally chipped off a tiny resistor at the end of the PCB near the PCI-e power plugs. No idea how or when exactly it happened, but it did. Luckily, I noticed it sitting there while cleaning my desk before assembling the card. Long story short: Tried soldering it back on with my dad's clunky iron from the 80s, failed miserably and ended up scotch-taping the resistor back into position. Result: Card runs fine with stock cooler back on. Not bad for 50 bucks.
@@weavercs4014 It might leave the potential for spark gap, but the real issue is it moving and bridging another contact, it's betting on hot glue not getting too hot. I mean he could have done a better job, but it got the job done and its unlikely to cause additional damage down the line.
I love this video! I love the fact that you did everything wrong and it still worked. I'm not saying I would've tried it but it was fun to watch. Thanks for making this video.
That’s awesome!!!!!!! JayzTwoCents: “So what do we do with it now?” Me: Raises his hand slowly and says. “I can use it to upgrade from a Radeon HD 7970.”
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"This is probably really difficult for experts to watch."
I can tell you this much, it is really difficult for me to watch and I'm no expert.
I did electronics repair professionally for a good 20 years. This was VERY painful to watch. lol
@@qumefox I almost wish he had super-glued it to the board.
@@qumefox where can I learn to fix stuff like this?
@@kozuta8858 go to Louis rossman's channel, dude's amazing. A bit eccentric, definitely knows his shit though, and a huge right to repair activist.
Who needs flux anyways
“This is probably difficult for experts to watch”
Louis: HEAT THE BOARRRRRRD!
İ am not an Expert but this was the first thing i though
You can't imagine. I wouldn't say I'm an expert but I'm at least a professional and this is the cringiest thing I've seen in the last 2 years.
it isnt gonna help to heat the board, the pads lifted up and he is trying to solder to the fiberglass of the pcb
You have to put on some solder and heat both the pad and the solder surface on the resistor anyways.
By the way for Jay, if you read it. Soldering isn't about sticking something on something, but creating a low resistance connection between both surfaces.
In case of this resistor it should be fine as 5 MOhm wouldn't transfer much current anyways. But if you try this on anything else. Please just go ahead an use some of that fucking solder. :D
That was sooooo painful to watch 😂😂😂
**presses the soldering iron onto the edge of the resistor package**
**somehow the resistor sticks to the pads, probably just held in place with the strength of good intentions**
"I think we could have fixed it without soldering it at all"
dude i think that's exactly what you did
Im not sure if you meant this as a joke but im pretty sure he heated the solder before and then pressed the resistor onto it... with the soldering iron because its easier than swapping to something else quickly
@@Nyiati There was no solder on those pads. What Jay should have done was to add new solder on all of those pads, so it would form small beads and then put the resistor on that and heat it. He put a resistor on top of a barely tinned pad and then nearly cooked it. This is just as well done as sticking it with hot glue
@@Nyiati Even if the iron is heated, you can tell the pads need some flux because a) the solder isn't sticking to it when he tried to tin the pads b) the resistor keeps falling off after "soldering" it
acrid Axid you didnt watch the video. He had pre placed solder on the contacts that he heated through package.
@@hexedhero6159 you can see at 6:20 that the solder doesn't sticks to the pads while trying to tin them, so, no, he is just using whatever was left in the pads
Jay: Imma hot glue this thing
Louis: [DISTRESSED UNINTELLIGIBLE SCREAMING]
+ *_HISSING_*
Would scotch tape be considered better or worse? Because that's what I did the other day to a GTX 780 Ti that was a steal for about 50 bucks.
@@schlafanzyk IF using tape, the aerospace flowing through my veins, says Kapton tape...
@@schlafanzyk most things would be better, problem with non specific "potting" is that they can shrink as they cool or cure..stressing the connection they are supposed to protect.
Who is Louis?
Jay: I'm not a noob at soldering
Also Jay: Shaves coating of the iron with with a file..
I did the exact thing with mine. You'd be surprised what a ghetto lathe can do. I also have the same solder iron.
@@mightyORFEN uh when you do this you trash the tip. Literally not salvageable. It won’t heat uniformly, nor hold solder well at all. You’re supposed to Tin the tip before each use and while you’re using it, which I’m sure you don’t do if you sanded the ducking tip lol
Also heats the part but not the pad with almost no flux nor solder (admittedly, that solder looks terrible)
Jayztwocents: I'm not a noob at soldering
Also jayztwocents: no flux, shaves the coating of the iron tip without re-tinning it, fails to see that both pads are supposed to be bridged, and fails to actually solder anything
Me: I disagree
Edit: spelling
Soldering without solder is an interesting way of trying to NOT get the job done. There is just so much wrong with this video.
@@tobiasfaller9981 I can only guess that resistor is held on by Jay's hopes and dreams.
You guys are all so cool!
It might be doable without solder if he put some flux there. Solder would have made it way easier though! It's a great example of how NOT to solder, which is a shame because its actually pretty easy.
I disagree with your spelling of disagree, but who am I to judge?
Jay: "But im gonna see if I cant fix it myself today..."
Louis: "Noooooooooooo!" (It always makes repairs harder when a botched repair job is done)
no!!! i wanted louis to do a stream of the rtx titan
Louis please yell at jay until he gives you the card
I'm thinking Jay's quote from Louis just doubled or tripled in price LoL
@@JustAnOldPyro ,,Butchered by Jay, saved by Louis,, 😂.
It works at least 👌
Waiting for the "Louis Reacts to Jayztwocents Titan RTX Repair" video. For one, he's gonna scream cause he used liquid metal on the Resistor anyways. I've literally watched him rant for 30 minutes over this subject on livestream.
*"How to trigger Electrical Engineer 101"*
@Mal McKee He meant electrical technician, as an electrical technician this gave me eyeball aids.
More like how to trash a unbelievably expensive card
@@connorkitchen7156 I can attest to this
Louis Rossman- “WE NEED MORE FLUX!” So does jay.
No no no, just the right amount of flux.
Jay even asked is there anything to just heat up both parts.
not even a milipaul ammount of flux, he just went in DRY
Louis Rossmann react video would be pure gold
yeah and maby a lil pre tinning .
Wait till Louis sees this, he’s adding $250 to his quote.
hahhahahahahaha so true, he is always complaining about work other shops put into products before they get to him.
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Aaaaaaaaaannnnndddd he's seen it
Yooo are you a time Traveler? Wtf
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I have a message for you from Louis:
"*HISSSSSS*"
I think you mean clinton
"Cheapest soldering iron you could buy..." Someone hasn't been to Harbor Freight.
I have 1 frome Harbor Freight 1 from Lowe's and a butane one from Home Depot.... so far the weller from Lowe's has been my favorite... also the most expensive. point is you get what you pay for...
The crap 30 Watt 5-In-1 Hobby Wood burner set has a tip that would have worked wonderfully. Even comes with a little roll of solder.
The Hazard Fraught doesn't sell soldering irons, they sell fire hazards
@@cardsfanbj Well I don't expect him to run out and find a HICO for one minor job.
@@deathkiller008 There is a TH-camr called Project Farm who does really good testing on all kinds of products. I have no clue if he has done soldering irons before, but does other products. Which really helps me decide what is the best bang for buck item.
For a guy who goes to microcenter every 3rd video, you would think he'd remember that microcenter has a ton of soldering gear. Like RadioShack used to.
Idk maybe it's too far of a drive
Microcenter is the best store
i aslo have a microcenter here. I have this store 20minutes from me. It has everything i need. www.youdoitelectronics.com/
Cool. I didn't know MC had that. Though, I never been there.... Yet 😁 I usually order from Jameco
@@supremerulah420 well at least the one in Denver has it
tubeforthoughts what did happen to radioshack?
Next video will be titled: "How I broke the $2500 even more and Louis Rossman charged me double for being stupid..."
"for being myself, stupid"
I had no idea there are so many professional soldering experts following me! THIS IS AMAZING!! /s
Told ya you could do it :)
JayzTwoCents 10/10 hot glue job
I sense sarcasm, is this sarcasm?
fixed is fixed, you made it very clear that you dont recommend doing it this way, and would send to a pro. you had a $2500 paperweight when the video started, and a working GPU when it ended.
A cheap multimeter would be a great idea to check for shorts.
PLEASE! Send this to Rossman! Let him make a video walking everyone through every mistake made and how to do it properly.
I posted a related request on Louis' latest video =)
If louis had to make a video with everything wrong here it would be like a 2 hour video
@@somedude2492 Probably... I mean there are only like 5-6 topics to go over that wouldn't take more than 2-5 minutes a piece to explain, but Rossmann does know how to stretch things out. :D
@@Anonymiter it would take 5 minutes to explain how to do it the right way, it would take 2 hours to explain everything done wrong in this video lol
@@somedude2492 "5-6 topics... 2-5 minutes *A PIECE* to explain" ( ◠‿◠)
So, one of the many electrical engineers here, that is not how to solder SMD, but it's hilarious to watch, thx!
JayzTwoCents: TH-camrs, there's three ways to do things. The right way, the wrong way and the JayzTwoCents way!
TH-camrs: Isn't that the wrong way?
JayzTwoCents: Yeah, but faster!
Not just the wrong way, but the REALLY wrong way!
I know this isn't reddit,but still...here you go 🏅
Jay: There are no real tutorials on how to do it
Me: Louis Rossman's channel has 100's of videos on how to do it
Right? Thought every techie knew, when in doubt fill that bitch up with flux
@Mal McKee I learned to solder before TH-cam was a thing. But I looked at Louis his Videos where he reflow soldered, and thought huh that is easy. And so I try it and yes its freaking easy. Jay just had to look one or more Videos from Louis to learn to solder. Its not that difficult, I teach 6 years old to solder (Through hole and SMD) and they get it.
You really shouldn't need a video on how to solder to figure out that you put the iron to the parts you actually want soldered together, not the far end of the part.
Even the me from when I couldn't even build a stupid radio kit correctly would be like "are you stupid?"
@Mal McKee I would let a 6 year old never solder alone, always with supervision. Still they are not that stupid than you think. I have taught a lot of children soldering, and 11 year old I usually also teach to solder QFP Packages and similar.
Jay: There are no real tutorials on how to do it
Breaking: Local "computer geek" admits they don't know how search engines work
Hey Jay, that is a shunt resistor. It has 2 terminals on both sides so that one has the high current passing through it while the other allows a controller to measure the voltage drop directly across the resistive element. Its not a big deal if a solder blob bridges that since they are connected anyway. It will affect accuracy but it shouldn't be a big deal.
Bridging a shunt resistor? Wow, that has zero consequence.
@@pirobot668beta Yeah it decreases sensitivity of a current amplifier and increases current capability beyond set limits.
One word, "Flux." Actually a couple more words: hot air soldering station or soldering tongs/tweezers. But if you must do it with a soldering iron, lightly 'tin' one pad and add a little more solder to the other, then with the solder molten on the pad with more since the SMD component down into it, old it in place till it cools and then just add some solder back to the other pad (which should be pretty easy since it already was 'tinned').
They taught me to use a toothpick to hold it down and solder both ends. Then all you have to do is wait.
@@spaggtrait1608 agreed, just not the easiest method for someone not knowing what they are doing. It can be done with a soldering iron but it's harder.
@@Laugh1ngboy you can do that, for a beginner it might be able to do one side and then the other tho.
Flux... and a temperature controllable soldering iron! Using an off the shelf Weller that has no temperature control, unknown solder AND no Flux is asking for extra trouble. Goodness, he could have just grabbed a KSGER at Amazon which comes with many different tips for only $85 and it would have given him temperature control (plus he could have bought flux and high Silver [Ag] solder at the same time).
Yeah i agree use flux and a blower and tweezers and easy to do it
when he put the soldering tip in the drill and used the file I died inside.
I've done it before, but it would have helped him to learn how to solder. If he would have the tinning of that tip, he would've seen some kind of result. This was sad when you consider he's doing videos on TH-cam, the very place he could actually learn to prep his work and tools.
So cringe.
Yes
@@Aint1S Jay is more and more becoming the pander to the morons of the tech world channel. He doesn't even care to run proper benchmarks with variable reduction procedures and seems to add MORE variables instead.
Monorum Phok seem worked. End resault
"I feel like he'd just mail back a picture of a middle finger"
"We're on the same page"
Waiting for the "Louis Reacts to Jayztwocents Titan RTX Repair" video. For one, he's gonna scream cause he used liquid metal on the Resistor anyways. I've literally watched him rant for 30 minutes over this subject on livestream.
Joshua Bell Louis is awesome!
I'm waiting too
It exists now - th-cam.com/video/y_v7p3xEPDM/w-d-xo.html
It's like watching someone hammering a screw into a wall.
It might kind of work but it's just awful to watch 🤷🏼♂️
This is the perfect description XD
My roommate once tried to hang a chalkboard with a small shelf by hammering a tiny screw into the wall.
It stayed up just fine until he put his keys on the shelf.
Good way to put a big ass hole on the wall with no support, just ripping up the drywall
A hammered-in screw still works a lot better than a screwed-in nail.
@@waigl1845 False. You should not hang anything on a screw. A screw is used for tightening, it is not built to handle shear forces. A nail can actually bend when a screw just snaps off.
Louis' reaction to this is hilarious.
@@saillively I think it's this video here: th-cam.com/video/y_v7p3xEPDM/w-d-xo.html (titled: The man in the thumbnail is a sadistic murderer.)
Audible: Jay you have to talk about the service
Jay: Have you heard the tale of Darth Plagueis the wise?
@@thesenate9864 in the name of the galactic senate of the republic, you are under arrest chancellor.
Amateur soldering is a pathway to many videos some consider... hard to watch.
@@thesenate9864 I suppose it's not a tale the jedi would tell?
I AM the senate
don't let Louis Rossmann see this video... you're going to be called "a moron" at least 15 times
i feel like the very first thing he did after finishing editing was probably email Rossmann with a link, and some photos of the "high quality" repair.
Here you go - th-cam.com/video/y_v7p3xEPDM/w-d-xo.html
I was the exact same when I first started soldering. Jay clearly didn't try very hard when googling since 90% of Louis' videos show him doing this exact task... But I digress :P, even with videos the only way to get used to the "feel" of soldering is to just do a few hard jobs. All the other comments pointed out the issues, but here it is again. 1. the solder never got hot enough, partly because the sanded tip is no longer "tinned" with solder, partly because there wasn't enough mass of the tip in contact with the component, partly because that iron sucks. 2. Fluxed solder isn't enough flux, buy some goop separately. 3. MOST IMPORTANLY. This job is typically done with a heat gun, NOT a soldering iron, of course it isn't working well.
This is a very good video for Jay to make, please post more and continue learning and bettering your computer skills with your audience. It's worth turning into a series.... but also, take some time to actually get your studio finished and all your crap moved over!
As mechanics say;
“FIXED IS FIXED” whether by zipties or duct tape or WD40
Course, "fixed" is far more profitable when it's merely janked and needs "fixing" again and again and again...
I do not say that, drivers do.
“Hard for experts to watch”.... I mean it’s hard for ME to watch -not an expert
so true....... but hey, we are here fror the entertainment, right? XD
felt this. i'm a highschooler and its pretty hard. like a bit of flux would've went a long way
Hearing Louis multiple triggering while watching this is VERY funny. ''You stabbed it onto the board''. When seeing the glue, ''What the f**k is that? WHAT THE F**K is that? NO...NO...STOP IT!'' Etc. etc.
I was somewhat OK until he said "I feel like putting hot glue over the solder". My chest actually got tight.
oh no not the hot glue... just use UV resin!
@@m4ki9h76 has to be potting compound, if the material shrinks while cooling or setting it will put stress on the joint.
@@churblefurbles not to mention the connection was really poor, I ws cringing when he said "super glue" I could imagine superglue would just get right under the connection insulating it and mean it would be broken again only now with a layer of superglue to try get off the board......not too hard if you know what your doing but I could see him breaking out a drummer and ripping the pads off
Glue Gun: Here, I've melted some glue to hold your part in place
GPU: Oh thanks!
VRMs and other GPU doodads:
*I can melt it back for you if you'd like*
Except the heatsink isn't the hot part heating things up, it'd be the component under it or something nearby more likely to melt it. Especially since NO HEATSINK is going to reach the temperatures it takes to melt hot glue gun glue.
@@shawnpitman876 so it should be VRMs and Other components instead
@edson oliveira de carvalho oof
@@shawnpitman876 I googled and found the average hot glue to melt at around 80 degrees and noticed that Jay was "fixing" a titan rtx which with a heatsink cooler, can definitely get to 80 degrees no sweat so I don't know if your "NO HEATSINK CAN MELT HOT GLUE" statement might hold true
@edson oliveira de carvalho Which is why I said the component itself would do it. But to say the HEATSINK will goes to show how fucking STUPID this guy is. Also when he tries to come at me with "a titan can hit 80c easy!" when that's GPU CORE TEMP, NOT HEATSINK TEMP.
I worked at Radio Shack as they went out of business. It was my favorite job because i could help people who wanted to fix things with their own hands and learn the process. I met some of the most ingenious people in those days. Love this videos Jay!
"This is probably really difficult for experts to watch."
yes it was really difficult to see you sanding the tip of the soldering iron, dude that thing hurt my heart and my eyes
lucas henrique some fucking sanding lol
as a non-expert ... Why ?
That hurt me even as a total noob at soldering.
@Matt Addison thanks :)
Looks at length of copper / brass rod in my garage that I've been cutting, sanding, and using on occasions. . . fresh solder tends to fill up the craters that form. lol
(If I used it more than say once a year, I think I'd buy a new iron and some new tips.)
8-Bit Guy, EEVBlog, Louis Rossmann are all yelling at the screen lol
Philip P at 5:11 AvE is as well
Yup
I can already hear EEVBlog's rant in his voice: "What are you doing? First, you need the right tools, and second, you need the skills to use the tools, or you'll just muck about making things worse! It's a US$2500 gpu, I don't understand why someone would do that."
8bit guy is pretty good.
@@Wesrl there wasn't even a vise to stick it in.
And Louis Rossman has been triggered lmao
5:20 BIG NOOO!!! The soldering iron tips have a special metal layer on the outside, when you remove it, it becomes more prone to oxidation and its life time and soldering quality drops significantly.
In the 20 minutes he was using this soldering iron, I don't think it made a difference. He prob trashed it after this video was recorded lol
Really over a 20 dollar tool? He will never u... Nm he might use it again 😂
The problem is about someone else "learning" this trick and trying it at home, not about his cheap tool being disposable.
considering the cost of the card and the price of a tip is it an issue.
The issue is that Jay makes it clear he's not experienced on fixing electronics, but he makes it sound as if filing of the tips is a known technique
OMG Jay, I'm an electronics engineer and I am so triggered by this.
x Smym you want a trophy ?
@@bbmatias22 I want a sick Weller soldering iron with a custom filed tip hmu
@@xSmym you are a great human being.
Lols. 😂🤣
I always scroll the comments while I watch the video and I got to yours right when he said this and I died.
If anyone's watching this; soldering iron tips usually come pre-coated with something to make the tin stick better to it. You should probably pre-tin the iron a good couple of times and wipe off to get a good coating on there before first use.
" I probably didn't need to solder it, I might have just been able to use super glue or hot glue to hold it in place."
No Jay. Just no.
1. The two contact pads on each side of the resistor are shorted by the resistor anyways, so don't worry about that.
2. Put some fresh solder on those pads so you have a nice smooth silver hill of solder on each pad
3. Put your resistor on top and just heat the solder again
this works if you blow hot air via hotair soldering, but he used an iron solder, so better is to start with one side then solder the other side or you'll end up with an uneven resistor.
@@arketsjenkins5016 While true, I am 100% sure that Jay is not worried about a resistor that's not planar. It would be a real challenge to get solder that wide on the pad with the resistor in place. Jay would have been more successful with some flux I think.
"because i totally trust a non business complete stranger to send me back a 2500$ gpu" 🤣🤣
I probably would if I were a million subscribers TH-cam dude. I mean the shitstorm and level of revenge I could raise should be enormous
Wouldn't the resistor just bridge those two pads anyway? It feels like it would be fine with solder connecting them both.
No that resistor is there for a reason, if you just solder the connection it will bridge them
But without the resistance of the resistor the current might be to high and destroy something else that is connected to it
Absolutely not. That resistor is part of a voltage divider circuit within the board. This means that it needs to have a certain resistor value to get the desired output. If you just bridge the contacts, the outcome is completely unpredictable. It would probably kill the card.
Consider what the name "resistor" suggests and why it's important to have on a circuit.
"This is probably difficult for experts to watch."
I'm a pretty noob level hobbyist and I was cringing. I could feel the reflow station in my toolbox glowing like steel in a forge. Watching you try this fix was like watching somebody try to cut a tree down with a shovel. Yeah it can be done but... axes exist...
Oh, You're an expert tree surgeon now? /s
Oh, just chopping something down is "surgery" now? /s
You know Chainsaws exist, right?
@@RobertGoddard86
IMO a chainsaw in this analogy would be a professional SMD reflow setup. A hot air station isn't ideal for the task, but it's a tool that is designed to do it.
still send it to Rossmann. I'd love to see his video of unscrewing up your mess. :p
I posted a related request on Louis' latest video =)
Me: Scrolling for Rossman's reply of a middle finger
Please CTRL+Z this whole thing.
My eyes hurt
This is what u get when watching TH-cam.😉
I was cringing throughout...
For get CTRL + Z this is more of a SHIFT + DEL kinda situation, just scrap this vid from history lol
@@Sn0w_Official forget that just light your computer on fire
flux smoke got in your eyes?
Yes... We were all screaming at the screen flux, Flux, FLUX...
!flux
Flux., n! Flux😅, ending in face PaLM. 😂
it's possible without flux, but better solderingiron is a MUST
Having broken and repaired my 980 hybrid, I can say this is no easy task. Took me a month of practice and getting the right tools and flux (Rossman group) to fix it. Eventually did find and replace a bad resistor and a transistor. Both were smaller than a grain of rice.
Jay: I will proceed to do it my ways
*Start sharpening soldering iron tip.
Me:Noooooooooo!
Next up on Jay's 2cents. Actuall surgery.
Just like Picard episode 5.
@@mohdfaizal6773 Let's see if we can resuscitate this man my way "Starts the chainsaw"
RIP the coating.
"It freaking works!" - I've never seen someone so surprised that their repair actually worked hahaha
Have you not seen more of his videos?
A lot of stuff in the computer building world is like that
You don't have to be an engineer to become proficient with soldering. Before watching you do this, Jay, I want to say that I believe in you. You *CAN* do this.
"Havent found any good tutorials on how to do this the right way"
Said like 5 seconds after he mentions Rossmans.
-facepalm-
but it's a graphics card resistor, not a special macbook resistor that Louis always deals with, if Jay followed his videos he could have accidentally converted that video card into a mac
@@DeeSnow97 I know you're being sarcastic, but this is a surface mounted resister so any video showing how to solder surface mounted components should give you an idea of what expect. For anyone looking in the future
@@DeeSnow97 😂😂😂
@@DeeSnow97 well 1 thing the MAC and this GPU have in common.. THE FRIGGIN PRICETAG!!!
Louis is gonna love hearing the words “I’m going to see if i can fix it myself today”
Louis just released a video questioning his own career.
God I would pay to see Louis do a live reaction to this whole video. lmao
th-cam.com/video/y_v7p3xEPDM/w-d-xo.html
You're wish has been granted
@@Elrog3 thanks for the link
Watching you open the soldering iron, and that reminded me of buying some scissors that were vacuum sealed - that you needed scissors to open
Man. Y’all gotta chill. This isn’t a tutorial. We’re watching him go through his process of problem solving. Relax.
Yea, relax. People are just going to fuck up their hardware doing something stupid now, then find a way to RMA it even though it wasn't the companies fault their hardware doesn't work, which leads to the continued inflation of hardware prices due to them needing to cover people being asshats and RMAing their fuck-ups. No big deal or anything.
@@shawnpitman876 okay but 1k+ for a 2080Ti, nahhh chief
@@jacobwebb8818 Its called paying someone who isn't going to bodge the job, moron. You can easily find someone to solder a shunt onto a card without fucking it up for less than $50. But this is going to encourage morons to moron it up then RMA and cost EVERYONE.
CJ Jacobs will do👍
Shawn Pitman when a product is sent in for an RMA, doesn’t the company inspect it to see if it qualifies? Seems unlikely they’d just issue a refund because you send it in.
"What do you think this is, Elmer's glue?"
"so... I'm going to be doing it the wrong way, for a couple of reasons, 1) why break tradition."
That soldering method suggests a very optimistic view of how heat transfer works.
I’m certainly here for some good'ol Jay entertainment and as it's been said once or twice before, sometimes there is no better way to learn than from your own mistakes.
Maybe it's just my own personal process of thinking but in my opinion, when someone gains experience with a lower-class toolset, at a minimum opens up an opportunity to get that like gratification and appreciation when migrating from a lower-grade tool to what can seem like magic in your hand type of tool. A priceless experience every time.
You MUST remove the old gallium solder first.
When you filed the tip down you destroyed it as solder wont flow on it like it should.
You need more flux or proper flux core LEAD solder
Hmm, Can't really remove it.
Tip got f#cked.
Flux 4 the win.
Questionator Solder wick...
Edit: Never worked with gallium solder before though. Maybe it doesn't work with that? Never actually heard of gallium solder.
@@caddyguy5369 The gallium isn't from the solder, its from the liquid metal they had put on the shunt before knocking it off. Liquid metal = gallium and indium.
Guys, if he used solder tin on the PCB pad and used a solder sucker, to remove the solder, it would be fine already. Of course it's not right tool, but it would be fine, and his preoccupation about the 2 pads bridging was wrong. As soon as you solder the resistor on top of it, it's bridging.
@@caddyguy5369 gallium contaminated/infused solder. It goes in to the solder structure and destroys it.
He used liquid metal (gallium indium and tin) to shunt the resistor and when trying to remove it the gallium has softened the solder so it just fell off
Kids today: "What's Radio Shack?"
It's sad 😢
@@Moises-pp7nf i know, right? I miss the drawers of parts they had😭
That's where the unabomber lives.
I know what radio Shack is and I'm a young boi
@@machinist7230 Yup, all the tiny parts that you would ever need for repair.
*actually putting fresh solder onto the pads to get the resistor to solder on easily? *
J2C: nah
*literally roasting the resistor to get it to stick slightly onto the PCB? *
J2C: Hell yea boi
5:10
- : "the tip of the soldering iron is too big".
Me : "that's not a soldering iron that's a drill?!"
- : *rotates drill and files the tip*
Me : ° o °
"if it looks stupid but it works, its still stupid, youre just lucky"
probaly not for long...
Who said that? Darth Plagueis the wise?
That resistor is really big for a reason, a lot of current passes through it. Those very weak solder joints that he made are not going to be good at passing current and might even heat up enough to melt the solder.
@@jody5661 that might be better I the long run since his iron didn't melt the solder
@@hangncs2507 as long as it doesn't just fall back off
hey jay! please make a series of fixing broken things! should be awesome!
electro-tip: "Whenever you solder a THT (Thru Hole Tecnology), place the tip to heat up the surface, than while heating, put solder and let melt. You can tell if it soldered when it forms a even and shiny joint of solder. In case of SMT (Surface Mount Tecnology), put solder in one of the pads, then in one pads of the component, grab the component, melt the solder in PCB, place the component while melting, then you should not have any problem in making the second pad."
the major problem in your job is could have a bad contact in the resistor. it may create great voltage spikes if it have a bad contact and burn something else.
BTW!!! i'm really happy that you've tried! and did relatively well... i guess.
@9:55 "That's the ugliest solder job"
Yes,, to the point of me expecting you to stop the video and explaining this was just a prank, seriously! It was that bad. It hurt.
It did cheer me up though, when you added the hot glue, because every true DIY video must have hot glue in it. This is just one of those unwritten rules, because otherwise you're just messing around.
On a more serious note though, the glue will probably wreck the heat dissipation from that component, bringing up the resistance of it, which could lower the clock speeds because more resistance is apparently how Nvidia limits the power on the cards. So might be worth testing it again just to make sure, make sure that the heat doesn't just melt the glue, which then dribbles down onto,,whatever is under it. (and throttles the card)
But, I thank you for showing us that you are human.
out of curiosity why hot glue and not silicon (the pcb friendly edition)
Louis charges a $500 "I tried to fix it myself" fee
Soldering is Simple, Use a Flux Cleaner first to prep the Area to be worked on. Then when ready, make sure the Iron is Hot enough to Melt the Soldier properly, Protect the Surrounding Parts with a Lash of Electricians tape, then for a Resistor 2 Connections + and - Make sure to follow this, (Was a Certified Soldierer) now, Clean out the Place Holes where the Resistor goes of all Debris, Place the 1st Leg of the Resistor in and use the Flux Cleaner to Make the area cleaner around the Joint.
That's what I'm doing. SMD soldering tiny resistors onto my 980ti.
okay. see this video? don't do any of it. :D
Hopefully you’ve got some flux. It is the key to soldering on boards
I would confidently attempt a repair like this on a 980ti, but on a titan rtx i would be so nervous i may vomit before my iron touched the pcb.
If you're buying an iron at the hardware store anyways, flux should be right next to it. It might be called "soldering paste" though, which is almost the same stuff, but since it's a paste instead of a fluid, it's a little harder to apply.
But as uncle bumblefuck says: the bigger the blob, the better the job.
Just don't forget to clean the stuff.
@@xureality No no no NO. Under no circumstances should you use soldering paste or whatever else kind of hardware store flux on electronics (unless it's specifically made for that use). 99% of the fluxes you will find are for plumbing and much too aggressive for electronics - remember that copper on PCBs is typically only 35um/0.00138" thick. Even the milder fluxes contain corrosive salts like zinc chloride or ammonium chloride, some go straight up to hydrochloric acid. Only fluxes worth using for fine work are rosin-based, R (rosin-only) or RMA (rosin mildly activated) types.
Me: clicks on the video expecting a gpu repair
Jay: have you ever heard the tragedy of darth plagueis the wise?
"Sucking at something is the first step to being sorta good at something." I'm a professional and yea, that solder job was a bit sketch, but kudos for having a go and getting a fix! It's easy for arm-chair technicians to tell you you did a bad job, but you've got to start somewhere!
5:10 iron tip coating is gone now 😭
Just saw this comment. YUP THERE'S A COATING ON THE TIP THERE!
rip cheap coating
"I'm just gonna turn this using my drill like a lathe"
Discount Clickspring, ahoy!
I'm not going to lie, Preach, I think I died inside when he did that. Was waiting to see bare copper. xD
Also, hi Preach!
I think the proper response to "what do we do with it now" is, send it to Rossmann so he can post a video undoing what Jay did and showing the proper way of doing this, then having Jay follow that tutorial in the future. Or, have Rossman come to Jay and show him how to do it right. Or vice versa.
I am no expert but "flux" and I know Jay probably knows this as well but just sent it
While very useful, it's not always necessary given most cord solder has a core of flux
It has flux in the solder
There's 500 different types of flux, most are for pipe soldering and will absolutely destroy a fiberglass pcb.
The Proper Amount Of Flux™
@@alessandroceloria I read that in Louis voice HAHAH
You need a shitload more solder there is a lot of current going thru that resistor. Go TH-cam a Tutorial on soldering.
Hello jay. I resently got my head hurt. I was in hospital for over a week. Your videos helped me recover from serious brain injurury. Thank you very much. I love you mate. Very much. Iwish you all the best. Barry From london.
Hey, that's how mechanics in Cuba have kept their cars on the road for so long. It may not be the prettiest fix, but it works.
Just do the thing. Full send.
That's quite literally how the military treats its vehicles.
Huh, first time I've seen someone so-called "fix" anything without tinning the tip nor wetting the pads.🤔
I guess he keeps his weed in his fridge because that's the frostiest joint I've ever seen. 🤣
these pc so called tech experts are the most stupid people on earth. including linus and jay and gamernexus the only one who seems to know his stuff is this guy who explains VRMs and this stuff and then he also have his fair share of stupid mistakes
wetting the pads first would have done little to actually help the integrity of the joint, as he did wet the pads and add a bit more solder to them, the biggest problem is he was using a standard soldering iron to try and attach it, where he really needed a hot air solder iron.
@@ninjaman5j546 YES I was saying the same thing hot air or resistive soldering is what that needed...
i'm a hobbyist and I screamed watching this! no flux! sanding the iron tip. heating the resistor instead of the pad!
you put solder on one pad heat it put the resistor on and then solder the other end BY heating the PAD AND the resistor not just the resistor!
also hotair can work
2 weeks later: "My Titan RTX caught fire..." No but seriously im worried about that hot glue melting when the resistor heats up.
Only legends know that this is reuploaded.
Well considering every other comment is "reupload"
I got a job for a few years testing/repairing boards our company made before they shipped out. A game changer is the hot air gun. You can use tweezers to hold the resistor and just blow hot air on it to melt the solder. Its like a hair dryer on crack.
*"not everyone should have the right to repair, if this is how they're gonna do it"*
One of the best anti right to repair reasonings I've heard so far.
Well, you own it, you can destroy it. And if you butcher it and then take it in for a repair, it's just going to be more expensive. It's really not an argument against at all.
Well, you own it, you can destroy it. And if you butcher it and then take it in for a repair, it's just going to be more expensive. It's really not an argument against at all.
The problem is that customers absolutely lie and say they did nothing and expect a warranty replacement. Or they sell it on ebay "barely used" and the person who buys it slams the manufacturer for their quality.
Original title: I tried to repair my 2500$ video card with a 15$ soldering iron.
Actual electrical engineer here. You keep saying that you think electrical engineers are going to yell at you for doing stuff the wrong way. But the fact of the matter is, you took the cheapest possible tools and materials, improvised a way to modify them to do what you needed them to do, and then fixed a very complex thing in the simplest way possible and had it work exactly how you wanted it to. You did things the wrong way in exactly the right way, and that's exactly what a good engineer should aim to do.
I didn't know you do tech comedy sketch, this is better than anything Linus has ever done.
He is funny Linus he is ok.
This is officially the most cringy video I had to watch on this channel so far :(
You did what you had to do and it worked. Plus you demonstrated tool improvisation and modification for your channel. Mission Accomplished!
"this is probably really difficult for experts to watch", yeah not just experts but experienced hobbyists as well :D Genuinely painful to watch. Hot glue isn't really gonna work in a warm environment such as a graphics card PCB.
I was watching this and have a good soldering iron, Jay will send you my soldering iron flux pen and solder. Please for gods sake stop doing what you are doing pleaseeeeeee.
silicone will work, 3$ at walmart
I was curious about using hot glue on a PCB as well. I thought it got hot hot. 😂 but I accepted that he has far more experience. My judgement is based purely off reasoning. 🤷♀️
@@outka5tz It's not just about hot. Moderately warm and the hot glue starts losing integrity. And he admits himself, that he doesn't have a great deal of experience with electronics repairs :P
The preferred method of gluing something down like that on a PCB is to use Kapton-tape.
@@J0ermungand learn something everyday! Thanks
As a expert, yes, yes this is really hard to watch! Dude soldering is not even hard. You're making me cry 😂
What a funny coincidence: Just yesterday I tried a very similar thing for the first time in 20 years of building PCs. I received my used EVGA 780 Ti that I snatched for a really good price because it had a water cooler mounted to it, which nobody seems to want with a 780 Ti these days. When trying to put the original air cooler back on, I accidentally chipped off a tiny resistor at the end of the PCB near the PCI-e power plugs. No idea how or when exactly it happened, but it did. Luckily, I noticed it sitting there while cleaning my desk before assembling the card.
Long story short: Tried soldering it back on with my dad's clunky iron from the 80s, failed miserably and ended up scotch-taping the resistor back into position.
Result: Card runs fine with stock cooler back on. Not bad for 50 bucks.
The real question now, how long does it work and does it cause damage down the line...
depends on how well it's cooled and how long the resistor makes decent contact.
Won't cause damage
@@jeremymcadam7400 exactly. He didn't even watch the video. If the res comes off it just downclocks
Once that hot glue melts off lol
@@weavercs4014 It might leave the potential for spark gap, but the real issue is it moving and bridging another contact, it's betting on hot glue not getting too hot. I mean he could have done a better job, but it got the job done and its unlikely to cause additional damage down the line.
10:38 Linus taking over insides of Jayz spotted
I love this video! I love the fact that you did everything wrong and it still worked. I'm not saying I would've tried it but it was fun to watch. Thanks for making this video.
That’s awesome!!!!!!!
JayzTwoCents: “So what do we do with it now?”
Me: Raises his hand slowly and says. “I can use it to upgrade from a Radeon HD 7970.”