Jordan, the term grabber comes from the 1970 Mustang Mach 1. it had a hood scoop called an air grabber. It also had a very cool graphic on the side of the scoop with teeth.
@@DR-ur4zd It dings the instant I open the door! Yes, putting on my seat belt silences it, but I haven’t even gotten in, much less started it, when the dinging starts.
@@AnonymousFreakYT it’s way too aggressive. What is even the point of digging without a message explaining what the ding is for? It’s ridiculous and a constant reminder that someone at Ford just doesn’t care about user experience.
Love the idea, but realistically how would they make the battery sustainable between the stages? I assume they will still need to put a small ICE to act as a range extender or maybe swapable batteries?
Great video. I’ve wanted a Mach e and now I really want this rally version. Also, I’ve really enjoyed Jordan and Kyle playing off each other that last handful of videos. The step up in editing is great too. Keep it coming.
Dirtfish is such a treasure. My partner and I did their two-day AWD rally racing class and it was SO much fun! Watching this video brings those fond memories back. And the instructors are all amazing
Chrysler did something a number of years ago with their SRT Track Experience. I did the very first one in Daytona. They had the Neon SRT4, Crossfire SRT6, Magnum and Charger SRT8 and Viper & Ram SRT10. Road course instruction in the morning and then a day full of permanent smile fun on the 1/4 mile, auto-x and road course. Great to see auto manufacturers engaging with their customer in such a positive and supportive way
Ken block would be proud. I’ve always been impressed by the way fords handle. The focus, escape, hell even the flex. Mass market cars with low limits but when you get them to that limit it’s not a total shit show.
9:15 - Yep, I'm about to get CrossClimate II for my Mach-E, as everyone in the various forums agrees that they're great, and improve ride quality over whatever tires came with it.
What a great video! I throughly enjoyed watching you have a blast in the Mach-E Rally! Which would you say is more fun to drive? The Mach-E or an Ioniq5? I am trying to decide which one to get as my first EV.
10:00 nah, in a world where so many cars are pano-glass roof only, [and where increasing numbers of those don't even open], i aint ever going to hate on a car coming with a plain metal roof. so much less to worry about both cosmetically and mechanically, especially if u live somewhere with snow...
Apparently this opinion is sacrilege to a lot of modern car buyers but I say: Amen! I'll go even further, a plain metal roof should be an option for every vehicle.
@@johneric98most insurers aren’t underwriting so granularly to your car as to know whether it has an expensive sunroof or not. Your premium will just be based on the total average cost of semi-annual repairs to all similar vehicles.
@@aggiewoodie they may not care whether you optioned a sunroof, where that's a thing, but insurance would absolutely care what trim you optioned, and if a trim came standard with a pano glass roof, you could absolutely feel that in insurance rates vs a trim without, or vs a car without (if an insurer determined pano glass roofs to be problematic). Easy comparable: back when SUVs had actual bumpers, SUVs would be more expensive to insure if they carried their spare tire on the back door instead of inside or under the vehicle. Because where a typical SUV might lose just a bumper cover in a light rear-end impact, rear mounted spare tires almost always stood proud of the bumper, and would incur much more damage if lightly impacted.
Ford's navigation system is second rate. Several times it directed me to leave a 4 lane divided route onto what I call side streets. The last time I was on my way home. The navigation directed me on a main route winding several miles off course. The main route was a direct 4 lane divided road.
But at least in Ford EVs, you have many other options for Nav's. In my lightning, I use Apple Maps and it works great, integrates with the dash and soon will precondition the battery before charging. You also can choose, google maps, Waze, etc... Point being, with most other brands you are stuck with the manufacturers Navs so they better be great. Even though Fords nav may not be up to par, there are plenty of choices that exceed those other Nav's.
Okay, when I saw the white Mustang Mach-E Raly with the white tires, rally stripes and the wing... And I normally don't care for white cars, I liked that color... But more importantly, I had flashbacks of the 2000 WRC days when drivers like Markko Martin, Jari-Mati Latvala, Marcus Gronholm and Mikko Hivonen on their Ford Focus RS WRC! Yeah, reminds me of that car! Some aspect of teh Fiesta RS WRC too! Even the MagnaRide suspension is called "Rally SPort" (which is what the RS stood ont he WRCs :) Thing is, most people should not be allowed to pick and choose because they screw something up.... Kyle knows how to get to the car's limits and how to control heat, I'm not so good at it, so I need the extended unbridled mode. Frankly, sounds like teh type of car you take the long way home :) ID.4 IS a fun car to drive! (when its not bricked, though I imagine they have fixed that now, and software is improving but ID.4 is a car I almost BOUGHT. i lOVE iONIQ 5, AND IT WILL BE CONTROVERSIAL THAT i'D TRAVE IT FOR mACH-e rALLY, BUT YEAH< nacs AND THE FUN OF IT.... pLEASE, MORE WITH THE CAR?
Are the problems from past years with the power limitations any better here? I live up in the high country of CO and as you know, there's a lot of passing uphill on I-70. The trouble the earlier years were having maintaining speed/power on longer drives is concerning. I've got a friend with a MYP and it doesn't need to be that level of stupid all the time, but the amount of restriction I saw in the 23 GT video vs the EV6 GT was kind of crazy.
Now I kind of want my Mach-E to develop problems so I can have Ford buy it back as a lemon and I can upgrade to a Rally. :-D I just wish the bronze package was available on Rally. I'd love to see those dish wheels in bronze on the Eruption Green.
Kyle how does this compare to your rally Model 3 performance? Why should I buy a Mach E rally when I can just build a lifted model 3 for half the cost?
I hooked up my Mach -E to my 220V receptacle, It has a 30A breaker. My battery was at 78%. Several times the breaker tripped. 30a at 220V. that is 6600W. Now you leave your car to charge over night. I am waiting to see the increases on my electric bill.
Not sure what you are trying to say. If your 30Amp breaker is tripping all the time, that means there is something wrong with your electrical. You shouldn't be forcing a constantly tripping breaker to stay on and should get it checked out before it starts a fire. If you are charging at home of course it's going to increase your electrical bill. The point is the increase you pay on your electrical bill will be 80% less than what you would have given to the gas station.
After the complaints about the warning chime in the last video, hearing it playing over the Out of Spec logo at the beginning just made me LOL and have to pause to recover before continuing the video. 🤣
If this was priced to compete with the GR Corolla or Civic Type R, it would wipe the floor with the competition like a Focus RS successor. But the people who want this car can't afford it. There should just be a 300 HP version with the same suspension for less money.
No tax credits available, but if you lease it, that should give you the credit right? Leasing an EV gets you the full tax credit amount knocked off the lease cost regardless of your income or price of the vehicle. Is that still a thing?
That should be for all not just for the combustion cars, but the electric cars as well so they can test their power systems and electric capability and their problems and the inability to test on the racetrack doesn’t allow them to successfully the electrical systems, unlike what they used to do the combustion cars, out on the race track all they have to do is to electric cars testing on racetrack. Why didn’t Florida take it to the racetrack like they did with their normal cars in the past they always raised them to find out the problem is what they should do with all these cars before they put them out on the market at least that’s what they do with the combustion cars in years and how they were able to change them for market or the community and have tested them prior market release why did they put their electric systems into racecars before mass market. Sincerely! R.S.V.
Im not a huge fan of this setup… maybe its the color with the wheels. It kinda has Little Tikes Cozy Coupe energy. So many big plastic looking plain surfaces. The green GT looked amazing in comparison.
All the plastic looks so cheap, like that semi dull hard tappy plastic. The wing doesn’t help either… Its very $2 wind up gas station toy looking overall.
Very awkward review. Anyways, I was the one who gave ford the idea to make thr mustang a 4 door hatchback in 2017. I have the Facebook message and thwy replied. No post production acknowledgement.
I don't think I've ever seen you guys behave quite so badly than these last few mach e videos. Not sure what's in the water out there. The constant contempt and sarcasm is really off-putting.
this comment does not belong here because this is Mustang's time, all Tesla has to do to drive the nail in the auto industry is change there outer shell of the body and design it to be killer, they would bankrupt a lot of car manufactures and be the best car in the world
Jordan, the term grabber comes from the 1970 Mustang Mach 1. it had a hood scoop called an air grabber. It also had a very cool graphic on the side of the scoop with teeth.
Never heard you guy laugh so much or smile so much.
The Ford dings during the intro was hilarious, I love it!
That stupid sound lol
@@jimhimesjr I wish I knew what caused it. My Mach-E will do that sometimes any time the door is open, other times, it won't do it.
@@AnonymousFreakYTseat belt. Put it on before hitting the start button and you get 0 dings.
@@DR-ur4zd It dings the instant I open the door! Yes, putting on my seat belt silences it, but I haven’t even gotten in, much less started it, when the dinging starts.
@@AnonymousFreakYT it’s way too aggressive. What is even the point of digging without a message explaining what the ding is for? It’s ridiculous and a constant reminder that someone at Ford just doesn’t care about user experience.
The Crossclimate 2 has probably the best snow performance for a "All Weather" tire too. Good Call Ford.
14:30 that rock right on cue with "another right"
9:48 the name "Mongoose" was from the ATV in Halo 😇
Chupathingy would have gotten my vote. Lol
Between Mach-E Rally, Hyundai Ioniq 5N, and Rivian R3X, looking forward to WRC EV category. Welcome back to the Group B days!
Love the idea, but realistically how would they make the battery sustainable between the stages? I assume they will still need to put a small ICE to act as a range extender or maybe swapable batteries?
Great video. I’ve wanted a Mach e and now I really want this rally version.
Also, I’ve really enjoyed Jordan and Kyle playing off each other that last handful of videos. The step up in editing is great too. Keep it coming.
By far this was my favorite Out Of Spec video in quite a while. The drive looked amazing and it makes me want a MME Rally.
Dirtfish is such a treasure. My partner and I did their two-day AWD rally racing class and it was SO much fun! Watching this video brings those fond memories back. And the instructors are all amazing
Yep worth the money. I went several years ago and said I'd go back and I haven't had a chance to do it again.
Chrysler did something a number of years ago with their SRT Track Experience. I did the very first one in Daytona. They had the Neon SRT4, Crossfire SRT6, Magnum and Charger SRT8 and Viper & Ram SRT10. Road course instruction in the morning and then a day full of permanent smile fun on the 1/4 mile, auto-x and road course. Great to see auto manufacturers engaging with their customer in such a positive and supportive way
I feel like I can tell when Jordan edits the videos 👌🏼👍🏼
i can tell as well. it has more editing and more style
Awesome. Need more fun halo cars like this and the Ioniq 5N to draw people into EVs.
The Ford Focus lives!
The intro sound of the Mach e startup took me out 🤣🤣🤣
Giving me flashbacks from work
Awesome video Kyle and Jordan, keep up with great work.
Would love if they offer Rally version here in Europe 😍🤩🤩🤩
Your content is fresh, keep it going!
Ken block would be proud. I’ve always been impressed by the way fords handle. The focus, escape, hell even the flex. Mass market cars with low limits but when you get them to that limit it’s not a total shit show.
Great video! Definitely on my list of potential next cars
The question is, does it cut power after like a minute and a half??.. you mention thermals are better, but how much?
17:43 - That thing has been driven *HARD*. Guess-o-Meter is reading 67 miles remaining at 60%. 😱
yeah, same story with the ice or worse. Like if 70 litre fuel takes your 700 kms, such brutal would have fallen to 150-200km
*Epic* intro 😎
Kyle, you need to add one to your fleet! What a cool car for Colorado
9:15 - Yep, I'm about to get CrossClimate II for my Mach-E, as everyone in the various forums agrees that they're great, and improve ride quality over whatever tires came with it.
25:10 as a Mach e GTPE owner, please please Ford give us a customizable drive mode.
Snow test drive, please!!
What a great video! I throughly enjoyed watching you have a blast in the Mach-E Rally! Which would you say is more fun to drive? The Mach-E or an Ioniq5? I am trying to decide which one to get as my first EV.
I'm going with the Mach-E.
In Canada, this is basically the same price as the Ioniq5 N and that just offers so much more for the money. This is cool if it was way cheaper.
Fun, I know those roads, hopefully you looked out and saw the falls, should be moving pretty good right now.
They need to bring in the paddle shifter and gear torque curve mimics from the ioniq 5N
10:00 nah, in a world where so many cars are pano-glass roof only, [and where increasing numbers of those don't even open], i aint ever going to hate on a car coming with a plain metal roof. so much less to worry about both cosmetically and mechanically, especially if u live somewhere with snow...
Apparently this opinion is sacrilege to a lot of modern car buyers but I say: Amen! I'll go even further, a plain metal roof should be an option for every vehicle.
It might help in reducing the insurance rates. Gjeebs said replacing his Tesla MY cracked glass cost $1,630.
I don’t care how much tint or UV protection manufacturers add to to glass roofs, they always add heat and glare to the interior.
@@johneric98most insurers aren’t underwriting so granularly to your car as to know whether it has an expensive sunroof or not. Your premium will just be based on the total average cost of semi-annual repairs to all similar vehicles.
@@aggiewoodie they may not care whether you optioned a sunroof, where that's a thing, but insurance would absolutely care what trim you optioned, and if a trim came standard with a pano glass roof, you could absolutely feel that in insurance rates vs a trim without, or vs a car without (if an insurer determined pano glass roofs to be problematic). Easy comparable: back when SUVs had actual bumpers, SUVs would be more expensive to insure if they carried their spare tire on the back door instead of inside or under the vehicle. Because where a typical SUV might lose just a bumper cover in a light rear-end impact, rear mounted spare tires almost always stood proud of the bumper, and would incur much more damage if lightly impacted.
Great driving!
Are there 3 suspension settings? And is Whisper the softest like Rally Sport?
Ford's navigation system is second rate. Several times it directed me to leave a 4 lane divided route onto what I call side streets. The last time I was on my way home. The navigation directed me on a main route winding several miles off course. The main route was a direct 4 lane divided road.
But at least in Ford EVs, you have many other options for Nav's. In my lightning, I use Apple Maps and it works great, integrates with the dash and soon will precondition the battery before charging. You also can choose, google maps, Waze, etc... Point being, with most other brands you are stuck with the manufacturers Navs so they better be great. Even though Fords nav may not be up to par, there are plenty of choices that exceed those other Nav's.
Ranger Raptor vs Mach-e Rally vs R1T please. The ultimate match up.
I can’t wait for the comparison to Rivian r2 and r3X with this car!!! All three excite me a lot.
Okay, when I saw the white Mustang Mach-E Raly with the white tires, rally stripes and the wing... And I normally don't care for white cars, I liked that color... But more importantly, I had flashbacks of the 2000 WRC days when drivers like Markko Martin, Jari-Mati Latvala, Marcus Gronholm and Mikko Hivonen on their Ford Focus RS WRC! Yeah, reminds me of that car! Some aspect of teh Fiesta RS WRC too!
Even the MagnaRide suspension is called "Rally SPort" (which is what the RS stood ont he WRCs :) Thing is, most people should not be allowed to pick and choose because they screw something up.... Kyle knows how to get to the car's limits and how to control heat, I'm not so good at it, so I need the extended unbridled mode.
Frankly, sounds like teh type of car you take the long way home :) ID.4 IS a fun car to drive! (when its not bricked, though I imagine they have fixed that now, and software is improving but ID.4 is a car I almost BOUGHT. i lOVE iONIQ 5, AND IT WILL BE CONTROVERSIAL THAT i'D TRAVE IT FOR mACH-e rALLY, BUT YEAH< nacs AND THE FUN OF IT.... pLEASE, MORE WITH THE CAR?
How many jalapeños of spiciness?
Very impressive !
Are the problems from past years with the power limitations any better here? I live up in the high country of CO and as you know, there's a lot of passing uphill on I-70. The trouble the earlier years were having maintaining speed/power on longer drives is concerning. I've got a friend with a MYP and it doesn't need to be that level of stupid all the time, but the amount of restriction I saw in the 23 GT video vs the EV6 GT was kind of crazy.
Now I kind of want my Mach-E to develop problems so I can have Ford buy it back as a lemon and I can upgrade to a Rally. :-D I just wish the bronze package was available on Rally. I'd love to see those dish wheels in bronze on the Eruption Green.
Should compare it to the focus RS
Buy now!
Kyle how does this compare to your rally Model 3 performance? Why should I buy a Mach E rally when I can just build a lifted model 3 for half the cost?
Ford makes great rally cars and has done since 1963, when the first Lotus Cortina came out, and maybe before!!
That full send run with the pro was fun! It would have been even more enjoyable with the Hyundai N-like noises and fake revs adding "excitement".
Again with “The Mustang” 😀
Mongoose is a cobra killer.
These young kids. Ya gotta tell 'em everything. 🙂
Loved watching Vaughn's run, range dropped 7 miles in one lap 😆
Small price to pay. 👍
you can also see how much derating the car was giving him on the lap in the power meter -- it was a lot
4 mile drain in the span of one minute is insane
The intro music changed?
Nvm I get it lol
I hope Jordan is ok back there hahaha
I hooked up my Mach -E to my 220V receptacle, It has a 30A breaker. My battery was at 78%. Several times the breaker tripped. 30a at 220V. that is 6600W. Now you leave your car to charge over night. I am waiting to see the increases on my electric bill.
Not sure what you are trying to say. If your 30Amp breaker is tripping all the time, that means there is something wrong with your electrical. You shouldn't be forcing a constantly tripping breaker to stay on and should get it checked out before it starts a fire.
If you are charging at home of course it's going to increase your electrical bill. The point is the increase you pay on your electrical bill will be 80% less than what you would have given to the gas station.
This made me really miss Ken Block🥲
After the complaints about the warning chime in the last video, hearing it playing over the Out of Spec logo at the beginning just made me LOL and have to pause to recover before continuing the video. 🤣
Question: I don’t think I heard much about any brake upgrades; I only ask because I feel in such rally scenario it’d be important to address.
It has the same brembos as the gt performance
Why didn’t they call it the Mach-E RS (rally sport).
Steer by wire use case
The Mach E is the only EV I like.
If this was priced to compete with the GR Corolla or Civic Type R, it would wipe the floor with the competition like a Focus RS successor. But the people who want this car can't afford it. There should just be a 300 HP version with the same suspension for less money.
No tax credits available, but if you lease it, that should give you the credit right? Leasing an EV gets you the full tax credit amount knocked off the lease cost regardless of your income or price of the vehicle. Is that still a thing?
When less grip is actually more fun.
"You can just drive it like such an idiot, and it's hilarious!"
At least now we know why they marketed it as a mustang to mustang drivers!
“Work”
Oof that thing looks like it’s acting super heavy around the corners hehe
The spoiler looks fugly and is really dumb. Otherwise cool car.
I think it makes it look more like a rally car. But this isn't a rally car, despite the name. So kind of silly.
That should be for all not just for the combustion cars, but the electric cars as well so they can test their power systems and electric capability and their problems and the inability to test on the racetrack doesn’t allow them to successfully the electrical systems, unlike what they used to do the combustion cars, out on the race track all they have to do is to electric cars testing on racetrack.
Why didn’t Florida take it to the racetrack like they did with their normal cars in the past they always raised them to find out the problem is what they should do with all these cars before they put them out on the market at least that’s what they do with the combustion cars in years and how they were able to change them for market or the community and have tested them prior market release why did they put their electric systems into racecars before mass market.
Sincerely!
R.S.V.
Im not a huge fan of this setup… maybe its the color with the wheels. It kinda has Little Tikes Cozy Coupe energy. So many big plastic looking plain surfaces. The green GT looked amazing in comparison.
That fake grill looks so cheap, lorde... It looks like the same plastic you'd find on a door sill in a Kia forte
All the plastic looks so cheap, like that semi dull hard tappy plastic. The wing doesn’t help either… Its very $2 wind up gas station toy looking overall.
Very awkward review. Anyways, I was the one who gave ford the idea to make thr mustang a 4 door hatchback in 2017. I have the Facebook message and thwy replied. No post production acknowledgement.
I hate the ID4
I like this except for the stupid rear wing. Too bad you couldn't delete it.
This thing is ugly. The wheels look like the ones on the bronco sport.
I don't think I've ever seen you guys behave quite so badly than these last few mach e videos. Not sure what's in the water out there. The constant contempt and sarcasm is really off-putting.
Those wheels are so 80’s. Not a fan of
Wheels are hideous
Nice review, but no interest in rally.
Clown World Rallying 🤣
this comment does not belong here because this is Mustang's time, all Tesla has to do to drive the nail in the auto industry is change there outer shell of the body and design it to be killer, they would bankrupt a lot of car manufactures and be the best car in the world
You mean like the Cybertruck? Best truck in the world.....right.....
@@detritus23Just wait for the stainless steel model 3! 😂😂😂😂
@@JohnRoss1 And it will rust just like the Cybertruck...but at least it won't remove fingers.