thank you for sharing your reviews on the shimano EP8 motor. we know theirs a lot of emotors out there. me trying to get one but still holding off and waiting in the future will be less value and more dependable. have a safe ride always.
Thanks for the review. Did you notice a rattling noise coming out of the motor? Rob from Rob rides noted that in his video and I think I could hear it in yours too. I'm btw absolutely with you on the power consumption riding with mates topic. The range of this EP8 seems to be great but on my last mate run I was able to get 75km and around 1400m of elevation out of my 700Wh Levo battery. I'd really love to try the EP8 though. Hopefully YT will implement it soon in the Decoy and present it on one of their roadshows.
Hi mate, yes mine does rattle but not as badly as Rob's. We actually had a quick chat about it this morning and his unit does seem to have a more pronounced rattle than mine.
I think you are placing too much trust in the battery bar display. The Bosch also uses a 5 bar display. It takes miles to use I bar but as soon as you are past 2 bars use the other 3 go pretty quickly. I interpret what you experienced as exactly the same. In general a 630 battery should give a bout 40km range with a bit in reserve.
Nice n minimal motor sez me - nice to see the Shimano idiosyncrasies are ironed out - also appreciate the real world power use figures - waiting on the Shimano E/Gboxx for me however
My E8000 is plenty powerful, I have two batteries I don't notice it in my backpack anymore and on hilly Peak District rides never using eco and trail and boost set high on stunlocker I get over 90 k
E8000 is still a really good motor. How on do you manage 90km though without using Eco? how much climbing are you doing? I also ride in the Peaks and couldn't imagine getting 90km even from 2 batteries.
I couldn't hear rattling noise in your video. Other reviewers mention this noise. How bad is it? My e7000 has rattling noise, a bit annoying but I get used to it.
Hi, yes there is some rattling. It's less than the Bosch but there is something there. On the pretty fast and technical terrain I have at my local, you don't notice it, but you do notice on some rocky paths or cobbled roads when transitioning to the next trail.
I tested one today and it was very smooth with no rattles.mind you that was on the street ,but I did deliberately jumped some curbs to check for said rattles,but probably wasn't ruff enough to see
further to range discussion: your weight. lighter riders get more range. outside temp and starting battery temp. subfreezing, shorter range. starting with a cold battery shorter range.
If you have 5 bars showing on the meter do you have 100% battery left or 81% left? If you have 4 bars showing on the meter do you have 80% battery left or 61% left?
Beside software problem ,error messages ,have they recall or fix all the noise in the bottom motor rattling due to manufacturer /metal fatigue as they said?I think reliability is really in question even though this motor is very quiet.They should have tested out all these problem before releasing the bike.
I’m wondering if Shimano is planning to pull the same rabbit out of the hat as Bosch did.. so could we expect a software update that could open up more power?
Just for some perspective, from a dirt biker, the E-bikes are basically silent, my KTM, makes considerably more noise just sitting still. With my EP8 motor on my Husqvarna it basically just has a slight whine that lets you know it is working properly.
before doing a review you should get your facts straight about both systems.... unbelievable Concerning the app... you can set the modes on the e8000 to your liking via etube app or apps like STUnlocker , nothing new
Elliot Carman No, in many respects Bosch just caught up to the E8000 but still falls behind in connectivity, customization. The EP8 is significantly lighter than the Bosch it’s not a catch up.
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In the video I mention walk mode works at 4mp/h but it should be 4km/h. Sorry
This is quickly becoming my go to Chanel for reliable information... many thanks can’t wait to get mine in November
What impresses me was you didn’t miss a breath while talking and getting air😜
Impressive you can talk so well while bombing down the descents 👍
That's what I thought 😂
thank you for sharing your reviews on the shimano EP8 motor. we know theirs a lot of emotors out there. me trying to get one but still holding off and waiting in the future will be less value and more dependable. have a safe ride always.
Any time!
I love the chin strap view its awesome 👏
Every rider I saw in the Peaks today was on an E-MTB...starting to get FOMO. Top edit!
They’re great but I still prefer my MTB... my friends who solely ride emtb are a little heavier to say the least 😉
They're a bloody good laugh worth giving one a spin for sure.
Thanks for the review.
Did you notice a rattling noise coming out of the motor? Rob from Rob rides noted that in his video and I think I could hear it in yours too.
I'm btw absolutely with you on the power consumption riding with mates topic. The range of this EP8 seems to be great but on my last mate run I was able to get 75km and around 1400m of elevation out of my 700Wh Levo battery. I'd really love to try the EP8 though. Hopefully YT will implement it soon in the Decoy and present it on one of their roadshows.
Hi mate, yes mine does rattle but not as badly as Rob's. We actually had a quick chat about it this morning and his unit does seem to have a more pronounced rattle than mine.
I think you are placing too much trust in the battery bar display. The Bosch also uses a 5 bar display. It takes miles to use I bar but as soon as you are past 2 bars use the other 3 go pretty quickly. I interpret what you experienced as exactly the same. In general a 630 battery should give a bout 40km range with a bit in reserve.
Nice n minimal motor sez me - nice to see the Shimano idiosyncrasies are ironed out - also appreciate the real world power use figures - waiting on the Shimano E/Gboxx for me however
I didn't notice what is the battery capacity here?
My E8000 is plenty powerful, I have two batteries I don't notice it in my backpack anymore and on hilly Peak District rides never using eco and trail and boost set high on stunlocker I get over 90 k
E8000 is still a really good motor. How on do you manage 90km though without using Eco? how much climbing are you doing? I also ride in the Peaks and couldn't imagine getting 90km even from 2 batteries.
Singletrack Magazine Loads of climbing , Cat and Fiddle , Roaches, Flash, Three shires etc
Nice review!
I couldn't hear rattling noise in your video. Other reviewers mention this noise. How bad is it? My e7000 has rattling noise, a bit annoying but I get used to it.
Indo Emtb yes, I didn’t notice this in the video either. Interested to know if the mic just didn’t pick it up🤔
Hi, yes there is some rattling. It's less than the Bosch but there is something there. On the pretty fast and technical terrain I have at my local, you don't notice it, but you do notice on some rocky paths or cobbled roads when transitioning to the next trail.
I tested one today and it was very smooth with no rattles.mind you that was on the street ,but I did deliberately jumped some curbs to check for said rattles,but probably wasn't ruff enough to see
further to range discussion: your weight. lighter riders get more range. outside temp and starting battery temp. subfreezing, shorter range. starting with a cold battery shorter range.
Thank you for the review, what about the rattling noise when Cruising?
Hi, no noise when cruising or pedalling, but when you're on rough terrain there is a slight rattle.
listen from 4:27 clunk, clunk, clunk
@@goranstojic312 Probably chainslap.
If you have 5 bars showing on the meter do you have 100% battery left or 81% left? If you have 4 bars showing on the meter do you have 80% battery left or 61% left?
Beside software problem ,error messages ,have they recall or fix all the noise in the bottom motor rattling due to manufacturer /metal fatigue as they said?I think reliability is really in question even though this motor is very quiet.They should have tested out all these problem before releasing the bike.
Hi Andi, where is this lovely trail you're showing?
Top secret, sorry 😉
I’m wondering if Shimano is planning to pull the same rabbit out of the hat as Bosch did.. so could we expect a software update that could open up more power?
awesome! absolutely insane!
Thanks!!
Is it possible to display the speed and the remaining range simultaneously on the new displays
Good question, I don't believe you can but I will double check.
Just for some perspective, from a dirt biker, the E-bikes are basically silent, my KTM, makes considerably more noise just sitting still. With my EP8 motor on my Husqvarna it basically just has a slight whine that lets you know it is working properly.
Is the noise constant or does it gt more silent with decreasing cadence?
can you drive it silent if wanted?
12 years Later: Shimano's EP20 has 1,000,000 Nm of torque.
You wont even have to pedal.
We're going to get more torque for sure. Off the top of my head, Haibike offers 120nm already and Bafang 160nm!!
And it still rattles
btw: I have switched TO (not from) a underbar shifter on my E8000...
Do you know how to derestrict the shimano EP8 motor ?
Great video for much anticipated motor. What is your riding shirts btw?
Hi, thanks glad you enjoyed it. The clothing is from unicwear.com/en/ really great kit 👍
I think you forgot to mention the weight of the rider which is really big factor for the range.
Yeah, perhaps the most important factor 👍
Hopefully someone will hack/de restrict so we can switch to the US limit. I find the standard 15mph pretty underwhelming for my (peddley) trails.
I'm sure someone will manage to do it
How much do you weigh if you don't mind me asking ?
83kg
Shimano wont release ep8 yet why after all this publicity about the new motor?
I guess this was their launch window so they've stuck to the plan.
Not in every single way. On idle it sounds like a knocking a casserole
before doing a review you should get your facts straight about both systems.... unbelievable
Concerning the app... you can set the modes on the e8000 to your liking via etube app or apps like STUnlocker , nothing new
That's not an official Shimano App though is it.... 😂
The official Shimano App, officially stinks!! @@singletrack
wow you've just told me how crap the E8000 is, so this just catches up to Bosch
Elliot Carman No, in many respects Bosch just caught up to the E8000 but still falls behind in connectivity, customization. The EP8 is significantly lighter than the Bosch it’s not a catch up.
Rattles badly.
🤮e-bike
Yeah, the title does say 'EP8 motor' what were you expecting?
@@singletrack mtb e-bike are non-sense
@@MrFroggy29 You are nonsense.
@@whistlerrealestate1 e- bike for handicapped or people with healt matter ok.
@@MrFroggy29 sorry you can't afford one. Maybe get a better job and save up a bit. Normal bikes suck now.