12-15 “There is so much more I want to tell you, but you can’t bear it now. When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own but will tell you what he has heard. He will tell you about the future. He will bring me glory by telling you whatever he receives from me. All that belongs to the Father is mine; this is why I said, ‘The Spirit will tell you whatever he receives from me.’
@@charlesmills2657He was talking about the Holy spiritual. He said they knew the spirit knew them he will dwell in them. That sounds like a person to you?
She asked one of the most complex questions in all of Christian theology. His answer was pretty good, but not complete. Jesus regularly spoke to the father, prayed to the father, and always acknowledged that the purpose of his mission required his sacrifice.
Also, he unfortunately committed heresy in his explanation. Jesus is wholly God in this sense. If only Jesus is in a room with you, all of God is with you. If only God the Father is with you in a room, still, all of God is with you. And if only the Holy Spirit was with you in a room, all of God is with you. Now, if you have two of the three or all of the three in a room, all of God is with you. In short, the number of the persons of God with you in a room doesn't add it subtract the presence of God in that room. All of God is in that room.
Another reason why he would pray, was to show his disciples how to pray to the father as well. His prayers would also be recorded in the bible to also show the world how to communicate with GOD.
Cliffe is an amazing evangelist. I want him to be my mentor. He helps spread the word of god without getting aggravated. I love you all. May you all have a relationship with Jesus.
This is refeshing from all the people who usually ask this man questions. She was genuinely confused not just trying to make him mess up or proove him wrong.
Jesus' prayers were also a part of his righteousness he wants to put on us. He is the only true righteous one, in and of Himself. It is not only the death and resurrection of Christ that we need, but also His righteous life. He is the high priest who can sympathize with our weakness. I believe he still prays for those who are His. There is no greater love than the love He has for us.
John 16:1-4 “I have told you these things so that you won’t abandon your faith. For you will be expelled from the synagogues, and the time is coming when those who kill you will think they are doing a holy service for God. This is because they have never known the Father or me. Yes, I’m telling you these things now, so that when they happen, you will remember my warning. I didn’t tell you earlier because I was going to be with you for a while longer.
@@dustencross357 quoting passages in a script that is of unknown authorship, issued in a man compiled book of allergorical revelationary claims is not evidence of what is written being evidenced facts or true.
@@dustencross357 why are you asking me, it's nothing to do with a supposed god existing, and nothing to do with my being an atheist, it's just another attempt by you to dodge answering the question I put to you. Ps, it's very easy to research why the sky appears blue to people in hot climes it certainly rarely appears blue in Northern Europe or north of North America, have you never watched Attenborough's "Blue planet", did you ever think to direct your question to an astro physicist, or a cosmologist if you were genuinely interested , which of course your not, are you.
Please take this down. What you just described is a heresy called modelism, which says the person's of the trinity are just different forms of God. This is not true as we see them interact with each other like at jesus baptism where all 3 are present at the same time this can't happen if they are just different forms or states of matter in your analogy. Don't use analogies to describe the trinity because they always fall into heresy. The trinity isn't of this world. Therefore, we can't use worldly things to explain it Please take this down. You're accidentally spreading heresy with this comment.
@@mrladmanny no he is not speaking heresy at all, he speaks the truth. Jesus Christ IS God in the flesh, God humbled himself and became human, fully man and fully God. Jesus Christ himself said: " I and the father are one" " Before Abraham I am" " In the beginning the word is God the word was with God and the word became flesh". " I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end ". Even Thomas himself said" my lord, my God ". Jesus Christ IS God in the flesh, God the father, God the son, God the holy spirit. 3 in one person, yet working independently. To deny the trinity is denying God himself.
@OnlyGodsavesyou Yes, I agree, Jesus is fully God and you don't need to convince me of that, but this analogy doesn't work. This analogy promotes modelism, which is a heresy. In this analogy, there's water, and it has 3 different forms ice, water, and steam. However, it isn't ice, water, or steam at the same time. If you have a body of water like say a pool, the pool is filled with either water, ice or steam (I know you can't really fill a pool with steam but just bare with it) the pool can't be filled entierly with water, ice or steam. It's one or the other, that isn't true about the trinity. They are all fully God and all coexist with each other and not just different forms of him, unlike the water analogy because they all interact with each other at Jesus' baptism, which can't happen if they are just different forms of God. I believe in the trinity, and i know he isn't trying to spread heresy, but this analogy teaches modelism, not the trinity.
So God's form depends on temperature? Makes perfect sense, becomes sometimes he's boiling mad & sends a sunarmi to slaughter people. Other times he's cold as he ignores the plight of children with cancer say.
Jesus is quoting Psa 22 which is a prophecy of the messiah’s thoughts on the cross; expressing anguish, praising God, expressing his trust in God, acknowledging his own plight, thanking God for making him his son, describes what being on the cross is like, the bull of Bashan is talking of the demons that are surrounding him. For our good and the good of the people there at the time Jesus was pointing to Psalms 22) of course He couldn’t say Psalms 22) because The TaNak at that time didn’t have chapter and verse, so He quoted the most recognizable part of the 1st verses “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?
Jesus and his father can co-exist as one, in the same way that the Holy Spirit can be one with us. One is God Almighty and his son is our Lord God Almighty.
Best way to think of it. Think of God as a full hand ✋ Jesus is the Fingers of that hand 👆 The Father is the Palm of the hand ✋ The Holy Spirit is the thumb 👍 Together they work for 1 purpose, to bring you to into Heaven.
Jesus is not 100 percent God... lol GOD can not die.... yes there is a mystical thing Going on but even JESUS said it him self that He is not GOD. Also a dove came down from heaven that specifically said THIS IS MY SON and i am proud of him. Also after his resurrection He said to his MARRY ( i was corrected ) ... i will go to my God and your God and My Father and You Father... and there is the part where it says that JESUS will sit on the right hand of GOD of the throne.... so WHO SITS on the throne if Jesus is sitting to the right of the throne? So which GOD Will you wordship? The one on the throne or the one on the right side of the throne... When they GO back to HEAVEN they don't forge back together back into one. But in Matthew 28:1-8 it says Mary Magdalene and the other Mary, I assumed it was his mother... what other mary is there around Jesus... Who is the other Mary... lol too many Marys lol. now i realized they probably wouldnt call Jesus mother the OTHER MARY lol unless they are upset with her.
@@theronhorn1258firstly, what book, chapter and verse did Jesus speak to His mother after His resurrection? Please let me know. Second. The answer is God. Whichever of the Holy Trinity you're worshipping or speaking to.
To show humans the example - that even a divine human must humble himself to the divine identity. To show the necessity of separating the human self with the divine self. As if to say, even God is not above what is good. Because God is good.
They way it made the most sense to me is to think of God like a band. The members of the Beetles for examples were all the Beetles but each memebr was their own part. God is God which is made up of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.
Imagine a big circle, we are humans just 1 little dot created by the Big Circle, outside the big circle but Jesus is inside the circle, in other words, the part of it.. then he go outside & humble him self to be the 1 little dot like us .. and that big circle is the source of everything, the Almighty.. that we called the Creator .. a God ..
You will worship God, because there is only one God, and God is a "family" or "community": The Father, The Son, and the Holy Spirit. Three distinct persons but one divine essence: one God- yet the Father is not the Son or the Holy Spirit, the Son is not the Father, yet they are one God, and the fullness the divinity resides in all 3 of them.
@@carlosjuarez8761 Jesus Said to her Mary! She turned and said to Him Rabboni! ( even there they called him teacher not GOD ) Jesus said to her, Stop clinging to me for i have not yet ascended to the Father, but go to My brethren and say to them I ascend to MY father and Your Father, and My God and your God, Sorry i got the marys confused...not his mother. But John 20:16- 17. I would argue that Its not the fullness of GOD because God cannot die... the fullness of GOD would be immortal and can never die.... The proof is all in front of you.... If you read the bible you will see That JEsus God a huge part of Gods essence but not the complete form. other wise he would of never died.... Yes its part of God but its also no God.... So you think Jesus doesnt worship God?
@@carlosjuarez8761 Carl that is not true..... because if it was true JESUS would never have died... The fullness of God is perfectness and immortal ... Jesus Died..... Also when Jesus Goes to heaven you think he isn't going to worship his GOD or His Father? Basically your saying when JESUS goes to Heaven He merges with GOD and the holy spirit?
@@theronhorn1258 Jesus, the Eternal Word, God the Son, the second person of the Holy Trinity, not only has the full divinity but he is human, 100% human, excepting in sin. The Word incarnated, who is Eternal have always existed, but in a specific moment in time, in history, he took flesh and humanity, lived like a man, died., but he was sinless and not subject to death or corruption . He resurrected and he had not ascended yet to heaven in his full divinity and full humanity, when he appeared to his disciples for 40 days, when they saw the glory of Heaven opening and Jesus, in Body, Soul and Divinity entering, glorifying humanity with it and now men, body and soul included are called to be in Heaven to participate of the Glory of the Holy Trinity. Thomas the unbeliever, had no other choice to proclaim him "My Lord and my God", when Jesus made him put his finger into his side and shown the wounds of the nails in his resurrected glorious body. God the Son, always existed, and has always been God and never stopped being God, but he took flesh in a moment, history first to redeem us and paid the debt that was unpayable for mankind to God, opened the gates of Heaven for us, and to elevate humankind to the category of adopted children of God.
Me too! I think it may be that we're seeing the Holy Spirit working in her and our excitement in seeing him give her the truth. We're watching hope being given.
This is b.s. Jesus is the son of our heavenly Father. They are distinct separate beings. He is confused and preaching a false message. It does not mean every thing he says is false.
5-11 But now I am going away to the one who sent me, and not one of you is asking where I am going. Instead, you grieve because of what I’ve told you. But in fact, it is best for you that I go away, because if I don’t, the Advocatea won’t come. If I do go away, then I will send him to you. And when he comes, he will convict the world of its sin, and of God’s righteousness, and of the coming judgment. The world’s sin is that it refuses to believe in me. Righteousness is available because I go to the Father, and you will see me no more. Judgment will come because the ruler of this world has already been judged.
If Jesus Christ in his human form did not prey to God, how could He claim to fulfill the law and the prophets? How could he have claimed to keep the Torah? So that's from His human perspective; He had to be a perfect human being, meaning to worship God, to love God and to love His neighbor as Himself. As for Jesus in His deity, the Son and the Father have a worshipful communion with one another.
Or God the Father and Jesus Christ are two seperate beings United in purpose as the LDS church believes. Both of them visited Joseph Smith in 1820 in New York. Jesus Christ church from antiquity has been restored!! Look into it and you will find the truth I have found and your life will be forever changed ❤
If you're trying to understand how the eternity of God could be limited to the body of a man, consider how the entirety of the known universe was limited to a singularity and use that as a point of reference.
Question 1) Why he "prayed" to the Father? Answer: 1) Because, he was his part 2) Why he had to pray other himself (Even he limited himself of god. He is still god. He didn't have to pray) 3) Jesus hadn't soul in him? It is like Why are you claiming your father is you and your son is also you? They are different persons and have their own personalities? You know my father gave his seed to my mother's egg and I became. So I'm part of them and we are the one person in different persons and personalities.
Precisely, it has been indicated through The Bible in one of The Scriptures Good Shepherd amplify's that Our Father is Greater than He... Hosanna in the Highest, Halo be The Trinity of Almighty...Amen...
Genesis 8:21 And the Lord smelled a soothing aroma. Then the Lord said in His heart, “I will never again curse the ground for man’s sake, although the imagination of man’s heart is evil from his youth; nor will I again destroy every living thing as I have done.” Romans 8:3-4 "For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God, sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: that the ordinance of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit" John 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life". Romans 10:4 "For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes". Christ fulfilled the law's righteous requirements and became the end of the law. Paul's argument is based on the idea that the law cannot save anyone, and that all people have sinned and fall short of God's glory. Jesus's sacrifice Jesus gave the ultimate example of love by giving his life for the sins of the world
Jesus had to fulfill all righteousness. The public acts he did, the ones recorded in the Bible, were ones specifically carrying out the perfect life of righteousness that God requires of us. Also, there is a hierarchy in the Trinity, with the office of the Father given a higher ranking than the others
Jesus ( peace be upon him) is prophet of God. Example of his birth is like example of birth of Adam ( peace be upon him). Adam (p.b.u.h)was created without father or mother. Jesus ( p.b.u.h) was created without father. God only Says “Be” and it is. God is Al-Mighty Powerful and All- Capable.
Yes, that's what I always believed, Jesus is part of GOD. In the spiritual realm common sense there is not the same here but a greater reality than this physical realm. 1+1=2 here! But 1 +1=1 there! How? I will explain the best I can here in the physical. 1 drop of water + 1 drop of water equals 1 larger drop of water.
The Father is not the Son. The Son is not the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is not the Father. But this Holy Trinity are all three what make up God. Still trying to wrap my head around it and understand. Good luck to you as well. In Christ’s name, bless you all.
@@oneslayed71 You are correct, my friend. The errancy in Cliffe's message was the phrasing, "Jesus is not all of God." This is inherently untrue; all parts of the trinity are entirely God. Otherwise, we'd be worshipping three _different_ gods, rather than one true God.
@@jonathancorbin9425 I think he's just referring to when God humbled himself (Jesus) became human. So while he says that he's "part" I thinks he's just referring to Jesus(the son) and not Son+Father+spirit "heaven was not empty" the Father is still in heaven. I don't think he was saying that Jesus is 33.3% of God. "Jesus God the son who humbled himself". Clip is cut down and sounds like partialism heresy but in the full video he emphasizes further about what he's talking about Jesus is 100%God 100%human John 10:30 I and my Father are one.
No. Yahweh put his Spirit into Yeshua at the baptism, thereby begetting the Son of Elohim at that moment, not before. Yahweh is outside creation. The Son of Elohim is inside.
He had to 'compress'/semplify 'Itself' to "run" on a human hardware ... a human brain cannot obviusly contain all GOD...but a lesser projection...but alwais God
The very purpose of Jesus's coming to this world was to die for the sinners. Jesus was born as a man, human being. When It was imminent to die, as a man he prayed to God to avoid the death. But still he said Father's will be done. Jesus came as man to die and not to show the power of God. He showed the divine power in healing , expelling demons. This was the power of the Holy Spirit. When he died and resurrected, he is no more a man. He is God now.
Different people probably believe different things about that and for that matter the topic. I think because he's ' all' but that's my take on it. PS I'm not saying we are God so don't nobody rip their clothes off and scream blasphemy. 🙂
@moltenfish0000 I don't think that answers the question. And the question is rhetorical, I know that no one can answer it. People have been asking for millennia.
Jesus Christ is 100%God and 100%human flesh. In order to save us human beings, he had to have flesh like us, pray in human beings to leave instructions for us human beings to follow in order to receive what God had for us human beings before the foundation of the World. Read Ephesian 1:4
It is taught and known by everyone in the church that Jesus is not God. Jesus is the son of God. The trinity is God the son and the holy spirit. Why are people still saying this. It needs to stop
Um.....that doesn't really answer her question. The follow up question would be ....why is he praying if he is god then he talking to himself...but doesn't already do that...like we all can do?
I'm glad someone else realized that he dodged the question. If I would have been there I would have asked, "Okay, then what was that that happened right after Jesus was baptized? Why a voice from heaven saying this is my beloved son in whom I am well pleased?" I don't accept the trinitarian belief of most christians. It was introduced hundreds of years after Jesus. My explanation is much simpler. God the Father and Jesus Christ are two separate beings.
Feelin a bit dizzy trying to understand that so many buts in one explanation. But i kept thinking about this honestly, claiming to be a god is very important, god should make it clear about it, not speaking in some sort of riddles, god is not the author of confusion ? I’m feeling dizzy again.
I understand what you're saying most people do I'm certain not sure if that's entirely correct though. What I don't quite get is why so much emphases is put on this apparently as though it's thought to be salvation dependant? Someone with an IQ below 80 would probably be incapable of understanding the concept itself much less this explanation. So then because they can't comprehend it does that mean they won't be saved or a person must be in complete concurance with you and your explanation/perception of the trinity or they are not saved? I thought the Gospel was suposed to be simple 🤔
I love your thoughts here. The gospel is meant to be simple! My knowledge and experience (and the feelings through the spirit) tell me something very simple: They are in fact two, separate beings. God the Father and His Son Jesus Christ. It's mind-blowing to me how many Christians miss this simplicity, instead preferring to believe in some convoluted false doctrine that was introduced 400 years after Jesus Christ.
@@fancynancyINC Well I'm not saying it's false just that the emphasis is extreme I don't know exactly how God is composed I'm not even certain it's comprehendible I like everyone have an idea of what I think about it. So much emphases is placed on the trinity you'd think it was what saved us instead of Jesus. It even appears that's exactly what some believe . I seriousjy doubt that anyone who truly and sincerely folows the Lord believe in his teachings has faith in his sacrifice for forgiveness of sin will be unsaved. 😊
@@fancynancyINC Also I think you're right about the idea of simplicity. God realizes people aren't always that bright I don't think he would insist a person could comprehend it seems confusing to some it's a tiny bit abstract. 🤔
The Trinity are 3 separate persons as 1 God that are distinct, Jesus existed before he became flesh that is why he said in John 8:58 "before Abraham was I AM". In the book of Genesis God refers to himself as "Us" and not "I". Three separate persons that are distinct, and each of them have the same objective and nature, also all 3 are fully God, the trinity is by far the most complex thing to understand, for there is nothing in nature that relates to it exactly, you can't put God in a box.
If he’s God he can just speak to God or God would know his thoughts because they’re supposed to be the same being. He does not need to pray to God, but that’s what he did which tells me he is lower than God, which means he is not God. Plain and simple.
@@karlhowe5181if Jesus is a different God than the Father, then it contradicts the bible. Prophets, apostles, and even Jesus himself has taught us that there is only one God, and no other God than the Father. Holy trinity ain't even in the bible as well.
The Son prayed to the Father. The Son is NOT the Father, the Son is NOT the Creator of everything, the Father is. They are 2 separate person. Thats it. You will never understand that, if you listen to christians
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“There is so much more I want to tell you, but you can’t bear it now. When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own but will tell you what he has heard. He will tell you about the future. He will bring me glory by telling you whatever he receives from me. All that belongs to the Father is mine; this is why I said, ‘The Spirit will tell you whatever he receives from me.’
That person was Muhammad, pbuh. What he spoke was not his words, he came for the world. Testified of Jesus
@@charlesmills2657 Muhammad is a fake.
Anyone who would deny Jesus is the Son of God is the antichrist .
@@charlesmills2657 Jesus did not know Muhammad's name
@@charlesmills2657read john 14:15-18. Are you saying Muhammed dwells with us and is in us?
That sounds strange…
@@charlesmills2657He was talking about the Holy spiritual. He said they knew the spirit knew them he will dwell in them. That sounds like a person to you?
She asked one of the most complex questions in all of Christian theology. His answer was pretty good, but not complete. Jesus regularly spoke to the father, prayed to the father, and always acknowledged that the purpose of his mission required his sacrifice.
You think Cliffes don't know that? Dude is the Apologetics master!
Not only that but God became a man to show the human race what it meant to be a child of God and live by example.
Also, he unfortunately committed heresy in his explanation. Jesus is wholly God in this sense. If only Jesus is in a room with you, all of God is with you. If only God the Father is with you in a room, still, all of God is with you. And if only the Holy Spirit was with you in a room, all of God is with you. Now, if you have two of the three or all of the three in a room, all of God is with you. In short, the number of the persons of God with you in a room doesn't add it subtract the presence of God in that room. All of God is in that room.
G-d is a title. Jesus prayed to the Father. They both are G-d but not eachother. The Holy Spirit is G-d too but no the Father or son
@@mumbles215 why are you censoring the O?
Another reason why he would pray, was to show his disciples how to pray to the father as well. His prayers would also be recorded in the bible to also show the world how to communicate with GOD.
We ourselves have a body, soul, spirit. All three.are different, but are all part of one
JESUS was fully God and fully human
Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved and thy house
Yes. Be careful of what you wish for. Cause imagine God on earth without limitations. We are not ready for that judgement, but we try.🙏🙏🙏
Amen 🙏🙏🙏 thank you
God would have a perfect relationship with Himself. So Christ, as God who humbled Himself, necessarily prayed to God the Father.
Amen Godbless😊
Very correct good explanation. Amen.😊
Amen❤ I am nothing without you God and I'm sorry for being the worst sinner❤
Cliffe is an amazing evangelist. I want him to be my mentor. He helps spread the word of god without getting aggravated. I love you all. May you all have a relationship with Jesus.
Jesus is all of God cliff. {Colossians 2:9} 🙏
Spirit ❤️GOD is SPIRIT !
This is refeshing from all the people who usually ask this man questions. She was genuinely confused not just trying to make him mess up or proove him wrong.
AMEN
Jesus' prayers were also a part of his righteousness he wants to put on us. He is the only true righteous one, in and of Himself. It is not only the death and resurrection of Christ that we need, but also His righteous life. He is the high priest who can sympathize with our weakness. I believe he still prays for those who are His. There is no greater love than the love He has for us.
John 16:1-4
“I have told you these things so that you won’t abandon your faith. For you will be expelled from the synagogues, and the time is coming when those who kill you will think they are doing a holy service for God. This is because they have never known the Father or me. Yes, I’m telling you these things now, so that when they happen, you will remember my warning. I didn’t tell you earlier because I was going to be with you for a while longer.
Context?
@@c.ovenant there is one All Father and one Christ who our Father chose for us to be our God
@@dustencross357 quoting passages in a script that is of unknown authorship, issued in a man compiled book of allergorical revelationary claims is not evidence of what is written being evidenced facts or true.
@@derekardito2032 if I tell you the sky is blue because I read it in a book. Is the book right or am I?
@@dustencross357 why are you asking me, it's nothing to do with a supposed god existing, and nothing to do with my being an atheist, it's just another attempt by you to dodge answering the question I put to you. Ps, it's very easy to research why the sky appears blue to people in hot climes it certainly rarely appears blue in Northern Europe or north of North America, have you never watched Attenborough's "Blue planet", did you ever think to direct your question to an astro physicist, or a cosmologist if you were genuinely interested , which of course your not, are you.
Amen
Love your work. But Jesus is 💯 God always was always will be!
Blessings 😊
Jesus and God were one . In agreement. And there is only one God.
Flawless!!!
Water has different forms.
Ice, water and steam.
But is still water.
God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
Please take this down. What you just described is a heresy called modelism, which says the person's of the trinity are just different forms of God. This is not true as we see them interact with each other like at jesus baptism where all 3 are present at the same time this can't happen if they are just different forms or states of matter in your analogy. Don't use analogies to describe the trinity because they always fall into heresy. The trinity isn't of this world. Therefore, we can't use worldly things to explain it
Please take this down. You're accidentally spreading heresy with this comment.
Yet another thing christians can't explain
@@mrladmanny no he is not speaking heresy at all, he speaks the truth.
Jesus Christ IS God in the flesh, God humbled himself and became human, fully man and fully God.
Jesus Christ himself said:
" I and the father are one"
" Before Abraham I am"
" In the beginning the word is God the word was with God and the word became flesh".
" I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end ".
Even Thomas himself said" my lord, my God ".
Jesus Christ IS God in the flesh, God the father, God the son, God the holy spirit. 3 in one person, yet working independently. To deny the trinity is denying God himself.
@OnlyGodsavesyou Yes, I agree, Jesus is fully God and you don't need to convince me of that, but this analogy doesn't work. This analogy promotes modelism, which is a heresy. In this analogy, there's water, and it has 3 different forms ice, water, and steam. However, it isn't ice, water, or steam at the same time. If you have a body of water like say a pool, the pool is filled with either water, ice or steam (I know you can't really fill a pool with steam but just bare with it) the pool can't be filled entierly with water, ice or steam. It's one or the other, that isn't true about the trinity. They are all fully God and all coexist with each other and not just different forms of him, unlike the water analogy because they all interact with each other at Jesus' baptism, which can't happen if they are just different forms of God. I believe in the trinity, and i know he isn't trying to spread heresy, but this analogy teaches modelism, not the trinity.
So God's form depends on temperature? Makes perfect sense, becomes sometimes he's boiling mad & sends a sunarmi to slaughter people. Other times he's cold as he ignores the plight of children with cancer say.
Jesus is quoting Psa 22 which is a prophecy of the messiah’s thoughts on the cross; expressing anguish, praising God, expressing his trust in God, acknowledging his own plight, thanking God for making him his son, describes what being on the cross is like, the bull of Bashan is talking of the demons that are surrounding him.
For our good and the good of the people there at the time Jesus was pointing to Psalms 22) of course He couldn’t say Psalms 22) because The TaNak at that time didn’t have chapter and verse, so He quoted the most recognizable part of the 1st verses “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?
Amen 🙏 ❤
Amen tell it brother
AMEN ❤
Jesus and his father can co-exist as one, in the same way that the Holy Spirit can be one with us. One is God Almighty and his son is our Lord God Almighty.
Proverbs is the book of wisdom and tells us not to reveal to others what God has revealed to us. It should come from God.
Ok so we are all God because God created us all and his spirit is in all of us.
Best way to think of it.
Think of God as a full hand ✋
Jesus is the Fingers of that hand 👆
The Father is the Palm of the hand ✋
The Holy Spirit is the thumb 👍
Together they work for 1 purpose, to bring you to into Heaven.
God has 3 parts, body soul and spirit.
Man has 3 parts because he is made in God's image.
Jesus is 100% God.
God said he's one....should we break proverbs 30:5-6 or listen to men in greek not hebrew?
@@Understandingways he is 1, and he has 3 parts just like you
Jesus is not 100 percent God... lol GOD can not die.... yes there is a mystical thing Going on but even JESUS said it him self that He is not GOD. Also a dove came down from heaven that specifically said THIS IS MY SON and i am proud of him. Also after his resurrection He said to his MARRY ( i was corrected ) ... i will go to my God and your God and My Father and You Father... and there is the part where it says that JESUS will sit on the right hand of GOD of the throne.... so WHO SITS on the throne if Jesus is sitting to the right of the throne? So which GOD Will you wordship? The one on the throne or the one on the right side of the throne... When they GO back to HEAVEN they don't forge back together back into one. But in Matthew 28:1-8 it says Mary Magdalene and the other Mary, I assumed it was his mother... what other mary is there around Jesus... Who is the other Mary... lol too many Marys lol. now i realized they probably wouldnt call Jesus mother the OTHER MARY lol unless they are upset with her.
@@theronhorn1258God cannot die but human can
@@theronhorn1258firstly, what book, chapter and verse did Jesus speak to His mother after His resurrection?
Please let me know.
Second. The answer is God. Whichever of the Holy Trinity you're worshipping or speaking to.
He described all humans according to Gen 1......Jesus was trying to have us understand that we were made in His image and Jesus is the example.
Well put.
To show humans the example - that even a divine human must humble himself to the divine identity. To show the necessity of separating the human self with the divine self. As if to say, even God is not above what is good. Because God is good.
It is clear that Father and Son are different persons. But they are united as one.
They way it made the most sense to me is to think of God like a band.
The members of the Beetles for examples were all the Beetles but each memebr was their own part.
God is God which is made up of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.
Wait until y’all realize He now lives in every believer around the world and He is still in heaven and He is still Jesus too together currently
Yahuah = The Father
Yahusha = The Son
Ruach Hakodesh = Holy Spirit
He said that Jesus is a part of god, so he isn't the father, can my arm become me ???!!! Thank Allah that made it too easy to find the right path.
We are all god in human form.
The devil is anyone who misrepresents God. Those who do cannot be god and the devil.
Imagine a big circle, we are humans just 1 little dot created by the Big Circle, outside the big circle but Jesus is inside the circle, in other words, the part of it.. then he go outside & humble him self to be the 1 little dot like us .. and that big circle is the source of everything, the Almighty.. that we called the Creator .. a God ..
God is real
my question is if Jesus sit on the right hand of GOD and God is on the throne ... Which GOD will you worship?
You will worship God, because there is only one God, and God is a "family" or "community": The Father, The Son, and the Holy Spirit. Three distinct persons but one divine essence: one God- yet the Father is not the Son or the Holy Spirit, the Son is not the Father, yet they are one God, and the fullness the divinity resides in all 3 of them.
@@carlosjuarez8761 exactly. 👏🏼
God Bless.
@@carlosjuarez8761 Jesus Said to her Mary! She turned and said to Him Rabboni! ( even there they called him teacher not GOD ) Jesus said to her, Stop clinging to me for i have not yet ascended to the Father, but go to My brethren and say to them I ascend to MY father and Your Father, and My God and your God, Sorry i got the marys confused...not his mother. But John 20:16- 17. I would argue that Its not the fullness of GOD because God cannot die... the fullness of GOD would be immortal and can never die.... The proof is all in front of you.... If you read the bible you will see That JEsus God a huge part of Gods essence but not the complete form. other wise he would of never died.... Yes its part of God but its also no God.... So you think Jesus doesnt worship God?
@@carlosjuarez8761 Carl that is not true..... because if it was true JESUS would never have died... The fullness of God is perfectness and immortal ... Jesus Died..... Also when Jesus Goes to heaven you think he isn't going to worship his GOD or His Father? Basically your saying when JESUS goes to Heaven He merges with GOD and the holy spirit?
@@theronhorn1258 Jesus, the Eternal Word, God the Son, the second person of the Holy Trinity, not only has the full divinity but he is human, 100% human, excepting in sin.
The Word incarnated, who is Eternal have always existed, but in a specific moment in time, in history, he took flesh and humanity, lived like a man, died., but he was sinless and not subject to death or corruption . He resurrected and he had not ascended yet to heaven in his full divinity and full humanity, when he appeared to his disciples for 40 days, when they saw the glory of Heaven opening and Jesus, in Body, Soul and Divinity entering, glorifying humanity with it and now men, body and soul included are called to be in Heaven to participate of the Glory of the Holy Trinity.
Thomas the unbeliever, had no other choice to proclaim him "My Lord and my God", when Jesus made him put his finger into his side and shown the wounds of the nails in his resurrected glorious body.
God the Son, always existed, and has always been God and never stopped being God, but he took flesh in a moment, history first to redeem us and paid the debt that was unpayable for mankind to God, opened the gates of Heaven for us, and to elevate humankind to the category of adopted children of God.
He is the holy trinity!!!
a good clue is that Jesus lived before he came to earth
I love the fact that she wants to learn
Me too! I think it may be that we're seeing the Holy Spirit working in her and our excitement in seeing him give her the truth. We're watching hope being given.
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This is b.s. Jesus is the son of our heavenly Father. They are distinct separate beings. He is confused and preaching a false message. It does not mean every thing he says is false.
"I and the father are one."
@@blackalpha8135Adam and Eve were one flesh.
5-11
But now I am going away to the one who sent me, and not one of you is asking where I am going. Instead, you grieve because of what I’ve told you. But in fact, it is best for you that I go away, because if I don’t, the Advocatea won’t come. If I do go away, then I will send him to you. And when he comes, he will convict the world of its sin, and of God’s righteousness, and of the coming judgment. The world’s sin is that it refuses to believe in me. Righteousness is available because I go to the Father, and you will see me no more. Judgment will come because the ruler of this world has already been judged.
If Jesus Christ in his human form did not prey to God, how could He claim to fulfill the law and the prophets? How could he have claimed to keep the Torah? So that's from His human perspective; He had to be a perfect human being, meaning to worship God, to love God and to love His neighbor as Himself. As for Jesus in His deity, the Son and the Father have a worshipful communion with one another.
It always sounds confusing doesn't it?😁
But if you believe the whole Bible Jesus certainly is God.
He also had a unique willl, NOT MY will BUT THINE 🤔
Or God the Father and Jesus Christ are two seperate beings United in purpose as the LDS church believes. Both of them visited Joseph Smith in 1820 in New York. Jesus Christ church from antiquity has been restored!! Look into it and you will find the truth I have found and your life will be forever changed ❤
LDS is a fabricated religion.
Jesus' most important descent, of course, is from God the Father: "The LORD has said to Me, 'You are My Son, today I have begotten You'" (Psalm 2:7;
Either stop calling yourself Christian or read the book. Cause Jesus is not god, but the son of God
@@mortuimordent7866John 20:28-29
If you're trying to understand how the eternity of God could be limited to the body of a man, consider how the entirety of the known universe was limited to a singularity and use that as a point of reference.
Everyone is confused because the real truth of the world is withheld from us
Isaiah 9:6 says Jesus is all of God
You have to suspend disbelief in order to believe in this explanation.
Question 1) Why he "prayed" to the Father?
Answer: 1) Because, he was his part
2) Why he had to pray other himself (Even he limited himself of god. He is still god. He didn't have to pray)
3) Jesus hadn't soul in him?
It is like Why are you claiming your father is you and your son is also you? They are different persons and have their own personalities? You know my father gave his seed to my mother's egg and I became. So I'm part of them and we are the one person in different persons and personalities.
Isaias 55:8-9
That’s why the trinity makes perfect sense, in Islam Allah and angels pray countless times, but who are they praying to???
But Pastor Jesus said I and the father are one
They are one in essence, not in person
Precisely, it has been indicated through The Bible in one of The Scriptures Good Shepherd amplify's that Our Father is Greater than He... Hosanna in the Highest, Halo be The Trinity of Almighty...Amen...
Genesis 8:21
And the Lord smelled a soothing aroma. Then the Lord said in His heart, “I will never again curse the ground for man’s sake, although the imagination of man’s heart is evil from his youth; nor will I again destroy every living thing as I have done.”
Romans 8:3-4 "For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God, sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: that the ordinance of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit"
John 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life".
Romans 10:4 "For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes". Christ fulfilled the law's righteous requirements and became the end of the law. Paul's argument is based on the idea that the law cannot save anyone, and that all people have sinned and fall short of God's glory.
Jesus's sacrifice
Jesus gave the ultimate example of love by giving his life for the sins of the world
Jesus had to fulfill all righteousness. The public acts he did, the ones recorded in the Bible, were ones specifically carrying out the perfect life of righteousness that God requires of us. Also, there is a hierarchy in the Trinity, with the office of the Father given a higher ranking than the others
Jesus ( peace be upon him) is prophet of God. Example of his birth is like example of birth of Adam ( peace be upon him). Adam (p.b.u.h)was created without father or mother.
Jesus ( p.b.u.h) was created without father.
God only Says “Be” and it is.
God is Al-Mighty Powerful and All- Capable.
Yes, that's what I always believed, Jesus is part of GOD. In the spiritual realm common sense there is not the same here but a greater reality than this physical realm. 1+1=2 here! But 1 +1=1 there! How? I will explain the best I can here in the physical. 1 drop of water + 1 drop of water equals 1 larger drop of water.
The Father is not the Son. The Son is not the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is not the Father. But this Holy Trinity are all three what make up God. Still trying to wrap my head around it and understand. Good luck to you as well. In Christ’s name, bless you all.
Where in the bible I can read the holy trinity?
Bro preached a heresy… Jesus is fully God
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Jesus is God made incarnate in the flesh. However he is the Son, not the Father.
@@oneslayed71 You are correct, my friend. The errancy in Cliffe's message was the phrasing, "Jesus is not all of God." This is inherently untrue; all parts of the trinity are entirely God. Otherwise, we'd be worshipping three _different_ gods, rather than one true God.
@@jonathancorbin9425 I think he's just referring to when God humbled himself (Jesus) became human. So while he says that he's "part" I thinks he's just referring to Jesus(the son) and not Son+Father+spirit "heaven was not empty" the Father is still in heaven. I don't think he was saying that Jesus is 33.3% of God. "Jesus God the son who humbled himself". Clip is cut down and sounds like partialism heresy but in the full video he emphasizes further about what he's talking about Jesus is 100%God 100%human John 10:30 I and my Father are one.
You're confused.
Makes me wonder if Abraham wasn't tested and he refuse to sacrifice Issac, God the father wouldn't be willing to sacrifice his own son either.
Prayer is also simply talking with God Jesus the Son was talking to the Father
There is 1 God in 3 persons. 3 persons is what people get confused about it seems.
YESHUA IS YAHWEH IN HUMAN FORM, YESHUA & YAHWEH ARE ONE...NO TRINITY
No. Yahweh put his Spirit into Yeshua at the baptism, thereby begetting the Son of Elohim at that moment, not before. Yahweh is outside creation. The Son of Elohim is inside.
@@blain20_ NO , WHAT I SAID IS WHAT I SAID!!!! ...WHO U TELLING YOURSELF THT!!!!...U NOT TELLING ME NOTHING
Ammon Hillman says that religion is a scam in his interview on the Danny Jones Podcast.
Not relevant.
Christianity was founded by pedophiles and child sex traffickers. Ammon Hillman explains it on his Lady Babylon Podcast - Abraham's drug problem.
Because he was Gods son. The one true God is the father John 17
He had to 'compress'/semplify 'Itself' to "run" on a human hardware ... a human brain cannot obviusly contain all GOD...but a lesser projection...but alwais God
No way to twist this. Jesus paid to God throughout his life. Not as God but to God
Exactly
Cliff, a better question is.If Jesus is God, why when he prayed to God, he got an answer? read Hebrew 5:7
The very purpose of Jesus's coming to this world was to die for the sinners. Jesus was born as a man, human being. When It was imminent to die, as a man he prayed to God to avoid the death. But still he said Father's will be done. Jesus came as man to die and not to show the power of God. He showed the divine power in healing , expelling demons. This was the power of the Holy Spirit. When he died and resurrected, he is no more a man. He is God now.
The Bible makes it pretty clear that there is a Holy Triune. God himself, The Holy Spirit and Jesus Christ. God is God apart from Jesus and spirit.
If he's spirit how did he create a physical universe?
Different people probably believe different things about that and for that matter the topic.
I think because he's ' all' but that's my take on it.
PS I'm not saying we are God so don't nobody rip their clothes off and scream blasphemy. 🙂
And what did he,she, they create it out of.
@@grahamash62in the same way he said let there be light and there was light That's how he did it
@moltenfish0000 I don't think that answers the question. And the question is rhetorical, I know that no one can answer it. People have been asking for millennia.
@@grahamash62 If you're going to try to add logic to the Bible you're not going to get anywhere
Pagans: our rock is God, it limited itself.
Jesus was God in representation because he only spoke the words the Father gave him to speak.
In space, why is it called dark matter..? We can see through it, why not clear matter...? Spirit matter... holds it all together..??
Key words are "not All of God"
God said nobody could see him and live.. Jesus Christ was not God.... God also says don't pray..
But he also said he who has seen Me has seen the Father also. Does that mean God was in the image of God in his corporeal nature?
He just espoused heresy. This is partialism.
Jesus Christ is 100%God and 100%human flesh. In order to save us human beings, he had to have flesh like us, pray in human beings to leave instructions for us human beings to follow in order to receive what God had for us human beings before the foundation of the World. Read Ephesian 1:4
It is taught and known by everyone in the church that Jesus is not God. Jesus is the son of God. The trinity is God the son and the holy spirit. Why are people still saying this. It needs to stop
He was not and never claimed to be God ..he always said he was the son of God..
Um.....that doesn't really answer her question. The follow up question would be ....why is he praying if he is god then he talking to himself...but doesn't already do that...like we all can do?
I'm glad someone else realized that he dodged the question. If I would have been there I would have asked, "Okay, then what was that that happened right after Jesus was baptized? Why a voice from heaven saying this is my beloved son in whom I am well pleased?"
I don't accept the trinitarian belief of most christians. It was introduced hundreds of years after Jesus. My explanation is much simpler. God the Father and Jesus Christ are two separate beings.
Feelin a bit dizzy trying to understand that so many buts in one explanation. But i kept thinking about this honestly, claiming to be a god is very important, god should make it clear about it, not speaking in some sort of riddles, god is not the author of confusion ? I’m feeling dizzy again.
She probably has "im mostly spiritual" in her social media profile.
I understand what you're saying most people do I'm certain not sure if that's entirely correct though.
What I don't quite get is why so much emphases is put on this apparently as though it's thought to be salvation dependant?
Someone with an IQ below 80 would probably be incapable of understanding the concept itself much less this explanation. So then because they can't comprehend it does that mean they won't be saved or a person must be in complete concurance with you and your explanation/perception of the trinity or they are not saved?
I thought the Gospel was suposed to be simple 🤔
I love your thoughts here. The gospel is meant to be simple! My knowledge and experience (and the feelings through the spirit) tell me something very simple:
They are in fact two, separate beings. God the Father and His Son Jesus Christ. It's mind-blowing to me how many Christians miss this simplicity, instead preferring to believe in some convoluted false doctrine that was introduced 400 years after Jesus Christ.
@@fancynancyINC
Well I'm not saying it's false just that the emphasis is extreme I don't know exactly how God is composed I'm not even certain it's comprehendible I like everyone have an idea of what I think about it.
So much emphases is placed on the trinity you'd think it was what saved us instead of Jesus. It even appears that's exactly what some believe . I seriousjy doubt that anyone who truly and sincerely folows the Lord believe in his teachings has faith in his sacrifice for forgiveness of sin will be unsaved. 😊
@@fancynancyINC
Also I think you're right about the idea of simplicity. God realizes people aren't always that bright I don't think he would insist a person could comprehend it seems confusing to some it's a tiny bit abstract. 🤔
The Trinity are 3 separate persons as 1 God that are distinct, Jesus existed before he became flesh that is why he said in John 8:58 "before Abraham was I AM". In the book of Genesis God refers to himself as "Us" and not "I". Three separate persons that are distinct, and each of them have the same objective and nature, also all 3 are fully God, the trinity is by far the most complex thing to understand, for there is nothing in nature that relates to it exactly, you can't put God in a box.
God is an entity no shape or form
Why did God father call him son my son is,nt me😢❤
If he’s God he can just speak to God or God would know his thoughts because they’re supposed to be the same being. He does not need to pray to God, but that’s what he did which tells me he is lower than God, which means he is not God. Plain and simple.
Well I think he's God but not the same person.
But that's what I believe 😂
Very confusing 🤔
@@karlhowe5181if Jesus is a different God than the Father, then it contradicts the bible. Prophets, apostles, and even Jesus himself has taught us that there is only one God, and no other God than the Father.
Holy trinity ain't even in the bible as well.
"Jesus is part of God"
Careful there buddy. Go down that route and you end up with Partialism.
The Son prayed to the Father. The Son is NOT the Father, the Son is NOT the Creator of everything, the Father is. They are 2 separate person. Thats it. You will never understand that, if you listen to christians