Many of us already have 88 weighted key MIDI keyboards. I would be glad to pay for a conversion kit that enclosed the MEDELI main board, buttons screen and pitch controller, without the keyboard and speakers. Better yet, if MEDELI took a lesson from Ketron and manufactured a desktop version, I think it would do very well.
Can you explain how to enable-disable vocal harmony when the performing is in progress. Is it possible to assign some switch to act somethig like on-off
It seems Thomann are very slow to support firmware updates as they still only offer v01.02.07 so I will pay the extra and go for the Medeli. I don't like buying from companies that don't support what they sell.
These are very similiar. I just bought the medeli version. The less memory model probaly would not be a big problem for me. I tend to not use the onboard software because it is usually very hard and tedious to use. I use my keyboards connected to a computer with midi sequencer software. Great video, I had to subscribe after your great detailed account of the differences.
Please explain why I can "only" record 2 or 3 songs in the user section of my AKX10 when trying to record more the keyboard stops and the the message reads filled up... Also can I dump a song from the user onto a USB device ? I hope you have have an answer for me..thank you... I enjoy your videos...
HELLO Thanks for your video . I would like to know if the hardware are the same on both, and do they come from the same factory? I worry about the quality can you tell me more about that many thanks Patrick
I'm watching the video well. I bought the Thomann akx1100...The manual states that USB memory supports up to 256G. In my case, only 32G is recognized. It's supposed to be formatted in FAT32 format. Both 64G and 128G were formatted as FAT32, but it was not recognized. Can you check it out? Thank you.
Can either keyboard be used as a general MIDI controller and what are the disadvantages when used as such? Can the internal speakers be turned off to allow the connected computer to perform its internal vst sound?
You can use both keyboards to control a computer or iPad via MIDI. This can be done with a 5-pin DIN cable, USB cable, or Bluetooth. I don't understand the question about any drawbacks. What disadvantages do you think there should be? The internal loudspeakers can be switched off. And not only that, Medeli has even thought of only playing a metronome through the internal speakers or headphones, but not through the audio output or USB interface output.
Hello thank you for this all info, and i have a question , my question is how to import your own beats to Akx10 i tried alot but, its very hard for me to upload from computer to keyboard , so could you please make one video about that ? i transfer the beats from laptop to flash driver and when put to keyboard still the file is not open please help there if its posible thank you.
@@pcpanikMusik could you show us please how to convert the files , i tried many time , but its hard for me please help me to understand, God bless you.
Have you tried any Ketron module, such as an sd2 or sd1000, with the medeli or thomann? I have had difficulty with Yamaha before with style drum sounds producing default piano sounds. Also, can the audio out of module be routed back into keyboard through audio in?
Have been frantically hunting for a Medeli AKX 10 in India. Hard luck till now!🙄🙄 Why would'nt Medeli market this keyboard in India?? Any chance I could get hold of one here??🤔🤔
Hello. The description of the Medelli X10 says that it has a Bluetooth Midi & Audio connection. Does the X1100 also have these connections? And one more question. Are there any visible differences (or differences in feel) in the keys, in their strokes, in the sound of their idle pressing? Thanks.
As mentioned, they are similar keybords (manufactured by the same factory). So the key-action is the same. And both have bluetooth. You can check this at the thomann website and the downloadable owners manual.
Hi, great video. I imported the Medeli to the UK from Europe and am enjoying. I would rather pay 100 euros more to not have that red highlighted data dial on the Thomann lol. I have noticed some mild clicking noises coming from the keys during normal play. Is this something you have experienced? If so do you know any solution.
To make it clear: the Medeli AKX10 is NOT a Yamaha XS600/700 or 900. If you want a SX900 from Yamaha, you should buy a SX900. The AKX10 is a Keyboard in the lower range of middle class Keyboards, but stands for its own. It is not a Yamaha clone of a SX900 for 1/3 the price. It has got a lot of features, more than a SX700 has (3 Layer Voices imsted of 2 …), sounds similar to a SX600, but is it not a clone of that. And it will not process Yamaha Styles without first converting them using the Grand Suite v2 software.
@@pcpanikMusik So am I right to stay on the PSR SX900? Medeli in the videos looked like a monster, so I was baffled for a moment. Also because how you play she is very similar to Yamaha and as a guitar, sax and piano she plays very well. I have already ordered the PSR SX900
@Ddeejay Alex I am not saying you are right or wrong. The only person who can make a decision is yourself . It depends on your needs an what you want. Just don‘t expect an SX900 if you don‘t buy one. That‘s it.
@@pcpanikMusik I have already bought it, but I thought I had made a fool of myself and that I would have saved with a Medeli. But at this point I think I want to have this experience with Yamaha. We hope not to regret it.
Thank you for this informative video on these 2 almost identical synthesizers. Question - I know they are arrangers, not workstations, but do they have sequencers? If so, are the sequencers full step sequencers (not just real-time sequencers)? Thank you for your time -
@@pcpanikMusik - I guess it may be called a "step editor" with Medeli / Thomann - with Roland it (used to be) called a step sequencer. In my Roland Fantom there is also "quantizing" which is helpful in a complete aligning of drums / bass tracks, and "micro-editing" - where the user can move a note within a measure. I'm sure these are old terms compared to the new technology in the Medeli / Thomann, but assume they are similar to these old Roland functions. Thank you for answering -
Hola amigo. Se compraria usted el Yamaha psr_x700 mejor que alguno de estos dos teclados? Y en caso de comprar uno de estos dos, de su video, cual es mejor comprar, el medeli, o el thomann? (el medeli es mas caro!) Gracias.
@@braveheartbraveheart78 As said in the video, the keyboards are nearly the same except the memory. 256 / 768 MB. Both have Firmware 1.4.x with the same features. If you want to read the manuals: www.mecldata.com/download/manual/AKX10_OM.pdf images.static-thomann.de/pics/atg/atgdata/document/manual/c_500840_r4_en_online.pdf
I just noticed that my Thomann keyboard doesn't store date and time settings after the power turns off. Do you have the same issue with Medeli? Another issue is that the audio line out does not output the signal at a level enough to be handled normally by the amplifier, only the headphone socket may be used for signal amplification by an external audio system. And finally, last but not least - there is still no FW update for Thomann!
Hello, even after a few days without being plugged in, my AKX10 knows the date and time. In order to use LineOut, the volume must be turned up to 100%. To do this, of course, switch off the internal loudspeakers. The output level is then completely fine.
Medeli Hong Kong now also has a firmware update on their website, I assume this has solved any problems you were talking about?....and very unfortunate that you can't do anything with Yamaha styles on the Medeli/Thomann . But for 579 euros a keyboard like the SX700 (1100 euro !!) from Yamaha, with 3 voices on the right, Bluetooth (only SX900) and a large speaker amplifier, this is a very nice offer from Thomann. And for the time being, 256mb expansion memory is enough, because only 1 pack with 30 styles has been released, no voice packs yet.
@@pcpanikMusik Thank you very much for this tip, that you can also convert Yamaha styles to the Medeli/Thomann with that program... I have already ordered the Thomann and hope to have it in before the end of this week. I'm very happy that I can still use a set of Yamaha styles.
@@BXgek I do not want to damp your joy too much. But it will not be like plug & play. You have to convert each style individual and you must set the instruments in the Grand Suite software for every track. It‘s a lot of work. ..
@@pcpanikMusik Thanks again for your quick response, I understand that it is not that easy to convert a Yamaha style to the Thomann/Medeli...but I know some people around me who like that work, I'm there myself not so adept at it. The Thomann AK-X1100 is now in my living room and I'm going to read the manual first, to find out, for example, how I can remove the touch sensitivity, which you don't need with organ or accordion playing. Furthermore, I sincerely hope that Thomann/Medeli will also come up with Voice packs, I especially like Choir Voices and those from Yamaha are just great.
This is also nowhere in the product description and it is not advertised with it. Also: which 600,- € keyboard offers lyrics display? Put down a tablet with Songbook+ and turn the pages via Bluetooth. It can do more, is easier to read and more flexible.
I would like to answer: Compared to my Korg Pa1000, my door keys aren't very musical. Same with my garage keys. The key from the motorcycle, on the other hand, creates a certain soundscape. But I think you mean something differently… I only have a much more expensive Korg Pa1000, and that would not be a fair comparison. And it makes no sense to compare to the Yamaha SX900 or even 700 also because of the price difference. The next Keyboard in the price range is the Yamaha SX600. And here the AKX10 gives you more value for your money. You can see the AKX10 a bit! like an SX600 with SX700 look and feel and some very clever features, that even Yamaha has not inside their machines.
@@pcpanikMusik Everything can be compared, the price tells only the part of the story. Someone online said that AKX10 keys are the same quality and feel as SX900, is this true? I have SX900 and those keys are nothing to write home about, they are better than the old PSR S series, but those were simply horrible so not difficult to be better than that. Now old Roland E-A7 had much better keys than the PSR SX, with the proper springs while Yamaha uses a plastic to give the springy action, not good at all.
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Many of us already have 88 weighted key MIDI keyboards. I would be glad to pay for a conversion kit that enclosed the MEDELI main board, buttons screen and pitch controller, without the keyboard and speakers. Better yet, if MEDELI took a lesson from Ketron and manufactured a desktop version, I think it would do very well.
Donde puedo poner pack expansion thoman ak x1100 ayuda
So the 256mb (sample memory) makes me wonder if that is a ram stick or similar removable part inside the keyboard, is that possible to upgrade?
th-cam.com/video/S9mpnun_OUc/w-d-xo.html I don't think so.
Can you explain how to enable-disable vocal harmony when the performing is in progress. Is it possible to assign some switch to act somethig like on-off
It seems Thomann are very slow to support firmware updates as they still only offer v01.02.07 so I will pay the extra and go for the Medeli. I don't like buying from companies that don't support what they sell.
Great video!
These are very similiar. I just bought the medeli version. The less memory model probaly would not be a big problem for me. I tend to not use the onboard software because it is usually very hard and tedious to use. I use my keyboards connected to a computer with midi sequencer software. Great video, I had to subscribe after your great detailed account of the differences.
youst use usb fro expansion or open it stick 512 mb card in
Hello, can AKX10 play MP3 files? so if I download a MP3 file on to the keyboard, will I be able to play it? and how does the Bluetooth work in this?
Check the manual, that should answer your questions: www.mecldata.com/download/manual/AKX10_OM.pdf
Thank you kindly !!
Can i open and play my yamaha style files on these keyboards? Will they be able to recognize and play them?
Not directly, but you can convert them relatively easily with the latest Medeli GS V2 software.
@@ArashArfaee does that V2 software comes with the keyboard ? Or do i have to buy it online separately?
Please watch this, it answers your questions: th-cam.com/video/hIvyhEC1rq4/w-d-xo.html
Please explain why I can "only" record 2 or 3 songs in the user
section of my AKX10
when trying to record more the keyboard stops and the the message reads filled up...
Also can I dump a song from the user onto a USB device ?
I hope you have have an answer
for me..thank you...
I enjoy your videos...
HELLO Thanks for your video . I would like to know if the hardware are the same on both, and do they come from the same factory? I worry about the quality can you tell me more about that many thanks Patrick
I'm watching the video well.
I bought the Thomann akx1100...The manual states that USB memory supports up to 256G.
In my case, only 32G is recognized. It's supposed to be formatted in FAT32 format. Both 64G and 128G were formatted as FAT32, but it was not recognized.
Can you check it out?
Thank you.
My SanDisk Ultra USB 3.0 64GB and 128GB work just fine.
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Thanks again
Can either keyboard be used as a general MIDI controller and what are the disadvantages when used as such? Can the internal speakers be turned off to allow the connected computer to perform its internal vst sound?
You can use both keyboards to control a computer or iPad via MIDI. This can be done with a 5-pin DIN cable, USB cable, or Bluetooth.
I don't understand the question about any drawbacks. What disadvantages do you think there should be?
The internal loudspeakers can be switched off. And not only that, Medeli has even thought of only playing a metronome through the internal speakers or headphones, but not through the audio output or USB interface output.
Hello thank you for this all info, and i have a question , my question is how to import your own beats to Akx10 i tried alot but, its very hard for me to upload from computer to keyboard , so could you please make one video about that ? i transfer the beats from laptop to flash driver and when put to keyboard still the file is not open please help there if its posible thank you.
Have you seen this Video I made? th-cam.com/video/L5pF4kDWsRk/w-d-xo.html
It probably answers your question.
@@pcpanikMusik thank you
Will Yamaha STY files work on the Medell/Thomann keyboards? Thank you
You have to convert them with the Grand Suite v2 Software.
@@pcpanikMusik could you show us please how to convert the files , i tried many time , but its hard for me please help me to understand, God bless you.
th-cam.com/video/hIvyhEC1rq4/w-d-xo.html
Have you tried any Ketron module, such as an sd2 or sd1000, with the medeli or thomann? I have had difficulty with Yamaha before with style drum sounds producing default piano sounds. Also, can the audio out of module be routed back into keyboard through audio in?
Have been frantically hunting for a Medeli AKX 10 in India. Hard luck till now!🙄🙄 Why would'nt Medeli market this keyboard in India?? Any chance I could get hold of one here??🤔🤔
You could ask at musicstore.de and session.de if they ship to India.
@@pcpanikMusik Thanks a heap!! Getting on to it right away!!👍👍👍
I‘ve found out, that there is an oriental version out there, called Medeli Dant Zen. Maybe this is an option to buy for you.
Hello. The description of the Medelli X10 says that it has a Bluetooth Midi & Audio connection. Does the X1100 also have these connections? And one more question. Are there any visible differences (or differences in feel) in the keys, in their strokes, in the sound of their idle pressing? Thanks.
As mentioned, they are similar keybords (manufactured by the same factory). So the key-action is the same. And both have bluetooth. You can check this at the thomann website and the downloadable owners manual.
@@pcpanikMusik Thank you for information.
Hi, great video. I imported the Medeli to the UK from Europe and am enjoying. I would rather pay 100 euros more to not have that red highlighted data dial on the Thomann lol. I have noticed some mild clicking noises coming from the keys during normal play. Is this something you have experienced? If so do you know any solution.
Fashion a top cover for the data dial with colored duct tape. It will also be easier to spin -
Ake subory alebo styli bere thomann?
If you write in English, please, I can answer questions too. I don't understand your comments. Not even with the translator.
Is it worth spending 1000 € more to buy a Yamaha PSR SX900 or a Medeli AKX10 well?
To make it clear: the Medeli AKX10 is NOT a Yamaha XS600/700 or 900. If you want a SX900 from Yamaha, you should buy a SX900. The AKX10 is a Keyboard in the lower range of middle class Keyboards, but stands for its own. It is not a Yamaha clone of a SX900 for 1/3 the price. It has got a lot of features, more than a SX700 has (3 Layer Voices imsted of 2 …), sounds similar to a SX600, but is it not a clone of that. And it will not process Yamaha Styles without first converting them using the Grand Suite v2 software.
@@pcpanikMusik So am I right to stay on the PSR SX900? Medeli in the videos looked like a monster, so I was baffled for a moment. Also because how you play she is very similar to Yamaha and as a guitar, sax and piano she plays very well. I have already ordered the PSR SX900
@Ddeejay Alex I am not saying you are right or wrong. The only person who can make a decision is yourself . It depends on your needs an what you want. Just don‘t expect an SX900 if you don‘t buy one. That‘s it.
@@pcpanikMusik I have already bought it, but I thought I had made a fool of myself and that I would have saved with a Medeli. But at this point I think I want to have this experience with Yamaha. We hope not to regret it.
@@AlexDeejay1973 are you happy with your SX900? What are the pros and cons of your experience so far?
Are the update and expansion Thoman and Medele the same thing
th-cam.com/video/AQ6CchPA-Rc/w-d-xo.html
Thank you for this informative video on these 2 almost identical synthesizers. Question - I know they are arrangers, not workstations, but do they have sequencers? If so, are the sequencers full step sequencers (not just real-time sequencers)? Thank you for your time -
I‘m not sure about your question. If you ask, if it has a Step Editor, than the answer is yes. You can edit every event/note.
@@pcpanikMusik - I guess it may be called a "step editor" with Medeli / Thomann - with Roland it (used to be) called a step sequencer. In my Roland Fantom there is also "quantizing" which is helpful in a complete aligning of drums / bass tracks, and "micro-editing" - where the user can move a note within a measure. I'm sure these are old terms compared to the new technology in the Medeli / Thomann, but assume they are similar to these old Roland functions. Thank you for answering -
@@RedEyeC You're welcome. There are quantization Tools etc. on board. Yes.
@@pcpanikMusik Thank you - Danke ;)
I wonder if there is an oriental version like them.
medeli a2000...but maybe it's a chinese instrument version not a full orental set
Medeli Dante Zen
There is scale tone in it
Is this better I have the YAMAHA PSR SX900?
Nope, your keyboard has a more modern soundchip
no software update for thomann AK-X 1100, for next period
th-cam.com/video/QEpu6oKEe2Y/w-d-xo.html New Update 1.4.4 from 23.01.2023
Nice keys
Hola amigo.
Se compraria usted el Yamaha psr_x700 mejor que alguno de estos dos teclados?
Y en caso de comprar uno de estos dos, de su video, cual es mejor comprar, el medeli, o el thomann? (el medeli es mas caro!) Gracias.
Yo compraría el Medeli entre los 3 que mencionas
What do you recommend most?
It depends.
@@pcpanikMusik do they have the same features sir?
@@braveheartbraveheart78 04:02
@@pcpanikMusik thanks a lot sir. But one thing i want to know, if all the settings and manual are the same?
@@braveheartbraveheart78 As said in the video, the keyboards are nearly the same except the memory. 256 / 768 MB.
Both have Firmware 1.4.x with the same features. If you want to read the manuals:
www.mecldata.com/download/manual/AKX10_OM.pdf
images.static-thomann.de/pics/atg/atgdata/document/manual/c_500840_r4_en_online.pdf
I just noticed that my Thomann keyboard doesn't store date and time settings after the power turns off. Do you have the same issue with Medeli? Another issue is that the audio line out does not output the signal at a level enough to be handled normally by the amplifier, only the headphone socket may be used for signal amplification by an external audio system. And finally, last but not least - there is still no FW update for Thomann!
Hello, even after a few days without being plugged in, my AKX10 knows the date and time. In order to use LineOut, the volume must be turned up to 100%. To do this, of course, switch off the internal loudspeakers. The output level is then completely fine.
Medeli Hong Kong now also has a firmware update on their website, I assume this has solved any problems you were talking about?....and very unfortunate that you can't do anything with Yamaha styles on the Medeli/Thomann . But for 579 euros a keyboard like the SX700 (1100 euro !!) from Yamaha, with 3 voices on the right, Bluetooth (only SX900) and a large speaker amplifier, this is a very nice offer from Thomann. And for the time being, 256mb expansion memory is enough, because only 1 pack with 30 styles has been released, no voice packs yet.
That is not as new firmware. The next version is expected for late March to early April.
You can import Yamaha Styles with the Gran Suite v2 Software.
@@pcpanikMusik Thank you very much for this tip, that you can also convert Yamaha styles to the Medeli/Thomann with that program... I have already ordered the Thomann and hope to have it in before the end of this week. I'm very happy that I can still use a set of Yamaha styles.
@@BXgek I do not want to damp your joy too much. But it will not be like plug & play. You have to convert each style individual and you must set the instruments in the Grand Suite software for every track. It‘s a lot of work. ..
@@pcpanikMusik Thanks again for your quick response, I understand that it is not that easy to convert a Yamaha style to the Thomann/Medeli...but I know some people around me who like that work, I'm there myself not so adept at it.
The Thomann AK-X1100 is now in my living room and I'm going to read the manual first, to find out, for example, how I can remove the touch sensitivity, which you don't need with organ or accordion playing.
Furthermore, I sincerely hope that Thomann/Medeli will also come up with Voice packs, I especially like Choir Voices and those from Yamaha are just great.
@@BXgek Do not expect to get a Yamaha Keyboard with Yamaha voices, if you did not buy one. 😉 Happy playing, thx for watching my videos.
thomann AK-X 1100 no lyrics!!!
This is also nowhere in the product description and it is not advertised with it. Also: which 600,- € keyboard offers lyrics display? Put down a tablet with Songbook+ and turn the pages via Bluetooth. It can do more, is easier to read and more flexible.
Can you compare keys with any famous keyboard?
I would like to answer: Compared to my Korg Pa1000, my door keys aren't very musical. Same with my garage keys. The key from the motorcycle, on the other hand, creates a certain soundscape.
But I think you mean something differently… I only have a much more expensive Korg Pa1000, and that would not be a fair comparison. And it makes no sense to compare to the Yamaha SX900 or even 700 also because of the price difference. The next Keyboard in the price range is the Yamaha SX600. And here the AKX10 gives you more value for your money. You can see the AKX10 a bit! like an SX600 with SX700 look and feel and some very clever features, that even Yamaha has not inside their machines.
@@pcpanikMusik Thank you.
@@pcpanikMusik Everything can be compared, the price tells only the part of the story. Someone online said that AKX10 keys are the same quality and feel as SX900, is this true?
I have SX900 and those keys are nothing to write home about, they are better than the old PSR S series, but those were simply horrible so not difficult to be better than that.
Now old Roland E-A7 had much better keys than the PSR SX, with the proper springs while Yamaha uses a plastic to give the springy action, not good at all.
Od yamahy stý štýle nebere
No Yamaha styles are possible, don't work on the Medeli/Thomann.
Que lo explique en español
Is there a way to make this keyboard read Yamaha's Style files (.sty) and voice files? Any software that converts them to its format?
Medeli GrandSuite Software. www.medeli.com.hk/akx10