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I laughed at the part where it said "a random rule the writers came up with on the spot". LOL Yeah, it was pretty stupid. So, apparently, Reapers dies naturally now.. and it's so sad to know that Julian Richings himself, expected his character to come back (not this "reaper" replacement bs) and he even has a line in mind when he finally meets Dean again.
The first appearance of Death in this show, getting out the car ( his pale horse) and walking down the street with "O'Death" playing in the background is one of the best character introduction in the history of t.v..
@@archy1557 Castiel came from nowhere and was introduced as an angel by practically tearing the barn apart. Big noise, big flash. Impressive but more or less a magic trick. Death's presence was hinted at, and it was a slow, dreadful build up to reveal a power that simply dwarfs every other character on the show (even Chuck Shurely). He brushes his lapel, and the big guy behind him drops dead. Ghastly, cold and with the soundtrack, a sense of ominous, barely restrained power. It's one of the scenes I return to years later, and it still sends shivers down the spine.
"This is one little planet in one tiny solar system in a galaxy that's barely out of it's diapers. I'm old Dean. Very old. So I invite you to contemplate how insignificant I find you." That was always such an epic line to me. It really put the oomph in how scary and powerful Death really was.
Anything716anything Yeah, truly intimidating! And yet Dean outsmarted Death at its own game! You mean to tell me that such entity doesn’t have the intuition or ability to see or feel out what moves will any individual make next? I wonder tho what does Death think of what just happened to “it” and what feelings exactly overwhelms it wherever Death does when it dies 😂😂😂
I love the irony though - this insignificant being kills death eventually... It would be great if he comes back in the final season (although he can't reap god without reaping the darkness to maintain the balance).
@Steve Robertson because there are still rules, if you ever noticed on anything most "gods" can be bound by rituals. He could just wait it out but who the hell would want to do that. He doesn't kill ppl he's not meant to at the time because death is the only true neutral. Well at least that death was the only time he acts is when it threatens the balance.
@Steve Robertson if god could die what made you think death couldn't die. If anything it made since only deaths weapon could kill death if it could kill god. What would you have rather had kill him ?
@@MIXMASTER6991 because death existed as God and his sister were exploded into being. If everything in our universe must die, then we must accept that death cannot die.
OG Death is great in part because of how well Dean sells him. As mentioned in the video, this is one of the very few times Dean is honestly, truly, terrified of what he's facing--no attitude, no glibness, just pure terror. You get the feeling Dean has to screw up every ounce of courage just to keep from running away, and that all by itself gives Original Death that extra something that makes him so memorable. Plus, the actor portraying the character absolutely nails the role: supremely unimpressed, incomprehensibly ancient, but not so jaded that he can't enjoy the trappings of the world. ;)
@@deathpixie777 nah this was actually required original death would have never gotten as involved as handing dean his own death notebook and making a major change of fate his mindset is much more relaxed and stayback and watch unless the shits really hitting the fan billie is a bit of a more aware death and not afraid to step in when things get really bad shes willing to take means that original death wouldnt in the name of protecting their universe and her own ass and its a interesting take
@@mickeycogswell4460 While I do agree that Billie being death is a bit more interesting but I can't agree about the character of the original death you are talking about. The whole act of,"saving her own ass and the universe" is what tells us that she is still young in her role Maybe death was like that in the distant DISTANT past. But living so long,as we have seen time and time again,you realize that there isn't really a point in immortality.Everthing is precious because it ends. Thinking that keeping something alive is what energizes it is straight up wrong.Excess of anything,even life itself,is bad. That is the mercy of the end,the death.I am sure she will reach the same answer thousands and thousands of years later. After all,why original death scares Dean,a human,is simply that it's true.True to that absolute certainty that even god will die. While Dean,being a human,can never completely accept the necessity of death(like we all are.Considering we live for such a short time.) he can also never deny it's reasoning.That is why the original death scared him and Billie doesn't. Billie is just like a human but just...bigger.
This is a case study in good writing and presentation. Here you have this frail-looking man doing nothing but eating his food calmly and talking without even raising his voice and he still commands en incredible presence. No cgi needed, no sparks, no reverb, no extra effects, just a creepy fellow calmly enjoying his lunch, saying just the right stuff. Love it.
@@dynamiteg3963 The show went down hill FAST after Season 5. But that happens when the originals writers and producers walk away and the "talent" takes over.
Isn't it ironic that death died tho? They've tried to write themselves out of it with the empty and acclimation of billy but they still wrote themselves into a shitty situation. I would have made death tied to his scythe and striking him with it would just make him evaporate albeit temporarily. I think wielding the scythe should give you the power to command death, and I put emphasis on command, because death shouldn't be able to be killed, he should be eternally bound to the scythe meaning if someone took that scythe they would command him, and he would manifest next to them forced to do their bidding. I don't think any magic should be strong enough to command death, the only exception should be gaining possession of his scythe, I think its stupid how Lucifer was able to do that with magic.
The one entity in all of Supernatural lore that Dean is legitimately terrified of. You can see it in every interaction they have just how... see, I have to say terrified again because other synonyms like scared or afraid just aren't powerful enough; terrified Dean is. Even in later interactions when it's clear Death has some strange affection for Dean, or at least tolerance. Personally I choose to believe the OG Death is pulling a 'God' and letting Billie run the show whilst he takes a holiday. Dealing with the Winchesters must be exhausting.
He was so terrified of him that he went back on his initial plan of double crossing Death after he got his ring. Initially Dean was going to stop Sam from saying yes to Lucifer and jumping into the cage after getting Death's ring. Bobby even made a comment about the consequences of lying to Death when he saw Dean playing with the Horsemen's rings. I'd like to think that Dean truly believed in Sam and let him be his own man & make his own decision to say yes and jump in the cage. But part of me thinks that part of his decision to let Sam say yes is because he was so terrified of Death that he was even willing to lose his brother over pissing off Death.
God, there's such a stark contrast in the incredibly well written and atmospheric show this USED to be, and what it became. The Kripke era is unmatched. Julian was PERFECT.
@@David-nw4nk Apocalypse world Michael said that he enslaved the death of his world that means that death is not a multiversal being like god so god created death . In that way how could the og death be more powerful to rip god ?
The old death was terrifying, identity you wanted to tiptoe around and show respect. The new death, well is almost friend like. You know she has the same abilities but she doesn't come over as terrifying as the old death.
Agreed. It has very much to do with the aesthetics of the character you're trying to portray. Billie doesn't do a very good job at the job in my opinion and her mannerisms are much worse than the Original.
This is what you get when casting and writing choices are made based on "affirmative action" or other SJW ideals instead of talent or suitability for a job or role. I mean I guess you live under a rock to have not seen this SAME thing happening all over entertainment...
Old Death was the old CEO who worked hard and demanded respect from everybody. Billie is the regular employee who got promoted. You can't expect the same results from two different type of characters. I have no problem with her.
idk billies pretty cold and caculating which is kind of scary too while keeping a friendly face isnt that a little bit worse? not being able to read someone right away that could instantly take your soul
I love how above board Death is compared to the other horsemen. I can't imagine a better or different version of death in any format after seeing Julian.
@@Zimzilla99 It's so good, they have to do it. He might've been dethroned as death, but maybe he's still a regular reaper. That'd be a human way for God to go.
I loved when Death was walking and that guy bumped into him. Death just stopped, wiped off his shoulder where the guy bumped him, glanced back at him, and then the guys dies right there on the sidewalk. Priceless.
At 1:34 when he lighting strikes and Death's face lights up, I legit thought I saw skeleton. Like Grimm Reaper skeleton. The OG Death had the attitude that fit right with his character. Even how he says 'To a thing like me, a thing like you...', there was some pride and ego in it and yet charming.
I also notice how Death is able to understand different slang while also being very old. Like when Dean said "above my pay grade." Death seems able to speak and understand anyone from anywhere. I also love Death's love for pizza and food. Something everyone can deeply relate with.
The real hero here is the guy who made that pizza.... Or the city would've been destroyed Still i miss the Old Death i still believe he still isn't dead you can't kill Death i wish he might be the way to fight off God
One possible way, Billie is just promoted to Death of this little galaxy. Old Death is free to go on being the Death of the entire multi-Universe. Not until Death of the Discworld, Billie is just a reflection of Death. Independent for sure, but still a reflection.
Billie death almost seems like a friend right, the old death you really wanted to tiptoe around because she was afraid it was going to kill you in a split second.
@@davidcunningham00 honestly thats what makes billie lame, the old death clearly made you feel like he was in power, even when Dean is already controlling him he couldn't talk to death in a disrespectful way. And the fact that the old Death doesn't care much about Dean, Lucifer, Castiel, or the entire planet, makes it clear how old and powerful he actually is; Everyone and Everything is insignificant in comparison to him. while there's billie... she's alright, but not as cool as old death.
@@I-C-N-H I think the biggest difference between old death and Billie is age. It's clear that Old Death had seen more than any entity and probably knew more. His "life is insignificant" attitude got him killed when he let a significant entity make him afraid. Billy is young enough to feel like a politician in a way, she's like a mother in the sense that if she told you it was your time you'd be happy to go with her. Old Death probably just forced every soul to follow him
Original Death is one of the most amazing introductions, I never tire of watching him, powerful performance by Julian Richings he was born for the role of Death
zack stoner reapers have died many times in the show and death was a horsemen which all the horsemen can and have died. Billie already explained that when she died that by some universal rule that since death was gone the next reaper to die became death, so Billie is death. The OG death can’t come back
There are no words to explain how original death is so terrifying and great his attitude , the way he talks it's like he is so real I just love him big fan I just wished he lasts forever in this show I like Billy but she is nothing compared to him
Billie is a temp. Julian Richings plays the best version of Death on-screen ever. Calm, articulate, cold, intelligent, Deity-level aloofness with a sprinkling of fun in his love for good food.
Death is that one immutable force that no living thing can resist. The great, the small, the rich, the poor, the strong, the weak...Death comes for us all, and there is nothing we can do to slow it or stop it. Bravado or not, pride or not, no human is truly unafraid of Death. Julian Richings was truly master class as Death. He was the consummate portrayal of the mightiest of the Four Horseman, and will always be the only Death in my mind in the Supernatural setting.
I just can't imagine anyone preferring Billie. Original Death will always be my favorite Supernatural character. Remember his first scene when he drove up and got out of his car? Love it.
You can tell ( and ive always admired this even the first time watching this episode ) that Dean is being very careful with what he says. Just showing how much Death truly scared him. Spot on acting from Jensen.
"*SUCH BS*" hahahahaha that cracked me up so much! Agreed. They should have just had the original come right back like a bad case of herpes and say something witty and chilling like, "Hello again, Dean. Did you miss me?" "But... I killed you!" "Ah, yes, let's waste however much time you like contemplating the ridiculousness of killing death. Go on, whenever you're ready. I've got all the time in the universe." Really, the very idea of an entity so old that it might just predate the Creator, being killed by a pesky little human...
ikr, though I think Old Death exaggerated that he was older than god/chuck cause he doesn't "remember" but I mean Amara didn't recognize him at all or knew who he was.
Or just tell em " you only cheated death and u can't escape from death forever" and laugh " besides than were other who beat death as well but i still caught up with them too hahahaha"
I'm sorry but Dean is no way in hell a pesky little human lol. Put some respect on his name. He's pretty much the second most dangerous being in the show considering he's killed/defeated just about everyone.
I give The actress playing Billie credit, she does play her role really well. And I don't entirely mind their way of saying there always needs to be an aspect of death. I'm interested in her pure attitude towards upholding cosmic balance. But I also agree the original death was a very fantastic character and a hard act to beat. I guess that's why they're trying to go for a different approach. Which I can respect.
Yeah, the newer, more approachable, death really felt like a cosmic librarian/admin rather than a cosmic force. It diminished the Mantle but I guess it was kinda needed to make it easier to write plots.
I was talking to my friend about it and I feel like the problem (a big one anyway) with Billie being death. Is that knowing her name takes away a lot of her power/mystique. The original Death was never given a name, he was just Death with a capital D. If he appeared into a room everyone had to go "Oh shit it's Death" However now when death shows up in the room everyone goes "Oh it's Billie". Just doesn't work as well.
"Regardless at the end I'll reap him to" said in almost sad respect of a task he is destined to do with not even a touch of arrogance over the true power he wields... The Best Death
@@paulmccloud9395 Why all these questions lol Nothing is clear in this show, but God is multiversal while there is a Death in every universe. Death has many weaknesses that God does not have. Amara does not know Death, so it's means that her and God are older than Death. He can reap him? sure. But reaping is not the same as killing, reaping is just essentially "confirming" a death in supernatural. God>Billie. Come on...
I love how both DEATh and Lucifer have this great sense of clairvoyance: "You're going to let your brother jump into that fiery pit." -- That, right there, after having seen the rest of the series, past the *first* apocalypse arch, show that they know how things are going to play out, though there's always that chance that the threads of fate aren't quite set in stone.
I see each version as the one needed for that particular time. The first death was more, the I'm here and i'm to be feared. He was unapproachable, you could literally feel the power. Billie on the other hand is more approachable, more understanding of the Winchesters roles. She also knows without her help, everything will be gone. But here is the difference, Billie was human once. Lived and died, eventually became a reaper, then death. So it's her humanity, that i think people do not like. Personality, both are good to great (first death is always great), but each one is what is needed, for it's time and place in the story
og death had A LOT of personality too, I mean Dean even figured out how to win him over, ethnic food, which makes sense. when you eat food you are essentially eating death as what you are eating is no longer alive, so death might have an interest in how he tastes in different cultures.
Biggest difference between Death and billie Billie cares, she is a player in the game of life. Death, did not. He was Death! Barely saw any creation as more than a bacterium. Billie treats Dean as her equal, Death treated him like a nuisance and it terrified him
Totally agree.. it's like the difference between a terrifying lord/wizard sending in an army and one of the soldiers from the front lines stepping up to become the general.
There's my man the original death! Please comeback! Thank you so much for uploading this video. Original death was the best, he's the only one I'll acknowledge as death.
"Now would you like an instruction manual" just a second ago he was being serious and scary then he being funny. Damn it I love the original death so much.
You can tell dean doesn't respect Billie as much as the OG Death. Maybe its cause he went through a lot more shit since he met the OG, and killed him. But I still think its interesting.
Watching that scene where Dean "Kills" Death is just hilarious, I mean I find the idea that you can even kill Death itself to be idiotic, Death is a force in the universe just like Life, both bring balance and I feel the only way to truly "kill" Death would be the most impossible task to do, as to literally snuff out every speck of life in the known universe along with all the others out there till there is nothing left, then there would be no need for Death to be. But I guess for stupidly written plot reasons, Dean stabs Death and destroys his physical form, but there is no way I believe Dean actually killed Death
There was a series of books called the Incarnations of Immortality. I believe they were written by Piers Anthony. In them, things like Death, War, Time etc were replaced by the human that killed them. It was a great series of books (8 in all I believe), and the one about Death was called On a Pale Horse. If you can find them, might be worth it.
Yeah the original had this aura like he had to be careful not to kill everything by accident. You really didn't want to make that dude even notice you.
2 Things: First, Billie needs about double the time to introduce herself as Death, than Death did with a considerably worse outcome. She's really kinda meh. Second, I do love how Deans interactions with her kinda mirror most of the Fanbase. Death was the only non-allied Supernatural being he truly respected, feared even. He tried to be polite and/or apologetic, depending on the situation, up to the moment he killed Death. He's not like that toward Billie even though she has the same powers and is just as dangerous. He's just as rough talking with her, as he is to every other high powered being thinking too highly of itself and one of the first things he does is try setting up a bargain under his own conditions. Really shows that he didn't respect Death, because Death could have reaped him without lifting a finger, but because Death was just really, really cool.
Chuck even said he liked first death better. I hope they bring him back he was scary and snarky and it worked. Billie is like a big sister telling her little brother what to do while their parents are away
I love how 90% of the Comments are either calling Billie "dei" because shes a Black woman or sexualizing her This fandom cannot stop acting like children.
Probably because she's in place of the old Death, everyone wants the old Death instead of her it's probably like "How dare you stand where he stood" kinda thing
If you think about it they both represent the two sides of death. OG death was scary and unemotional. Billy is softer and emotional. Much like how some fear death, while others welcome it.
Actually, it's consistent with the Incarnations of Immortality rules.. except that for death, the next 'death' has to kill the previous one. And over time, they 'become' the role, more and more. I think it's a Piers Anthony series. Might be covered in On a Pale Horse (first book in series). The horsemen are only incarnations.. temporary holders of the position.. the position is the office.
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I laughed at the part where it said "a random rule the writers came up with on the spot". LOL Yeah, it was pretty stupid. So, apparently, Reapers dies naturally now.. and it's so sad to know that Julian Richings himself, expected his character to come back (not this "reaper" replacement bs) and he even has a line in mind when he finally meets Dean again.
The first appearance of Death in this show, getting out the car ( his pale horse) and walking down the street with "O'Death" playing in the background is one of the best character introduction in the history of t.v..
Absolutely!
What about Cas?
@@archy1557 Castiel came from nowhere and was introduced as an angel by practically tearing the barn apart. Big noise, big flash. Impressive but more or less a magic trick.
Death's presence was hinted at, and it was a slow, dreadful build up to reveal a power that simply dwarfs every other character on the show (even Chuck Shurely). He brushes his lapel, and the big guy behind him drops dead. Ghastly, cold and with the soundtrack, a sense of ominous, barely restrained power. It's one of the scenes I return to years later, and it still sends shivers down the spine.
@@TwelveinchChewbacca I completely get what you are say
Evilactions what about castiels
What if the OG death comes back in the final season to reap God and was just like "i told you dean, i would reap god too"
If the writing team had brains they’d know they have to do this
That would be epic.
@@malcolmbosa3600 Sadly those 2nd rate hacks only have hallow shells.
We need to make this happen
@@השתין unless that was all bs he was creating to make it seem like he was important so the boys would help him
"This is one little planet in one tiny solar system in a galaxy that's barely out of it's diapers. I'm old Dean. Very old. So I invite you to contemplate how insignificant I find you." That was always such an epic line to me. It really put the oomph in how scary and powerful Death really was.
That is Lovecraftian Horror right there.
Anything716anything Yeah, truly intimidating! And yet Dean outsmarted Death at its own game! You mean to tell me that such entity doesn’t have the intuition or ability to see or feel out what moves will any individual make next? I wonder tho what does Death think of what just happened to “it” and what feelings exactly overwhelms it wherever Death does when it dies 😂😂😂
It was an aura no one else in the show had - even Chuck post heel turn never truly terrified the boys like Death managed.
so the Death basically confirms there are aliens 🤷
Not really because he wouldn't be begging for help from something he found insignificant.
The way Julian treated Dean like he was insignificant was so perfect everytime I saw him. Billie however was a nuisance.
Billie was annoying. Death (Julian) was terrifying and one of my favorites.
Yea I hate Billie and the concept of her character and also how she treated Sam and dean
"I invite you to contemplate how insignificant I find you" still one of the best lines in the show
I love the irony though - this insignificant being kills death eventually... It would be great if he comes back in the final season (although he can't reap god without reaping the darkness to maintain the balance).
and yet, he needs help from a mere human
@Steve Robertson because there are still rules, if you ever noticed on anything most "gods" can be bound by rituals. He could just wait it out but who the hell would want to do that. He doesn't kill ppl he's not meant to at the time because death is the only true neutral. Well at least that death was the only time he acts is when it threatens the balance.
@Steve Robertson if god could die what made you think death couldn't die. If anything it made since only deaths weapon could kill death if it could kill god. What would you have rather had kill him ?
@@MIXMASTER6991 because death existed as God and his sister were exploded into being. If everything in our universe must die, then we must accept that death cannot die.
OG Death is great in part because of how well Dean sells him. As mentioned in the video, this is one of the very few times Dean is honestly, truly, terrified of what he's facing--no attitude, no glibness, just pure terror. You get the feeling Dean has to screw up every ounce of courage just to keep from running away, and that all by itself gives Original Death that extra something that makes him so memorable.
Plus, the actor portraying the character absolutely nails the role: supremely unimpressed, incomprehensibly ancient, but not so jaded that he can't enjoy the trappings of the world. ;)
Original Death was one of the top characters in the series and his relation with Dean was priceless.... Billie though... meh
I like Billie, but not as the new death. She should've stayed as a normal reaper.
Like they said it was a snap decision to make billie death so no real chance to build a repor
@@deathpixie777 nah this was actually required original death would have never gotten as involved as handing dean his own death notebook and making a major change of fate his mindset is much more relaxed and stayback and watch unless the shits really hitting the fan billie is a bit of a more aware death and not afraid to step in when things get really bad shes willing to take means that original death wouldnt in the name of protecting their universe and her own ass and its a interesting take
@@mickeycogswell4460
While I do agree that Billie being death is a bit more interesting but I can't agree about the character of the original death you are talking about.
The whole act of,"saving her own ass and the universe" is what tells us that she is still young in her role Maybe death was like that in the distant DISTANT past.
But living so long,as we have seen time and time again,you realize that there isn't really a point in immortality.Everthing is precious because it ends.
Thinking that keeping something alive is what energizes it is straight up wrong.Excess of anything,even life itself,is bad.
That is the mercy of the end,the death.I am sure she will reach the same answer thousands and thousands of years later.
After all,why original death scares Dean,a human,is simply that it's true.True to that absolute certainty that even god will die.
While Dean,being a human,can never completely accept the necessity of death(like we all are.Considering we live for such a short time.) he can also never deny it's reasoning.That is why the original death scared him and Billie doesn't.
Billie is just like a human but just...bigger.
100 bucks says they chose a black chick to play death because of affirmative action not to be seen as an all white cast
Jensen’s acting here is sublime. This is Dean farking Winchester, and he is absolutely terrified.
This is a case study in good writing and presentation. Here you have this frail-looking man doing nothing but eating his food calmly and talking without even raising his voice and he still commands en incredible presence. No cgi needed, no sparks, no reverb, no extra effects, just a creepy fellow calmly enjoying his lunch, saying just the right stuff. Love it.
💯
Then you get “Billy” which is true garbage 🗑️
Good writing can make a scene truly scary.
In terms of characterization this is up there with Shakespeare.
@@dynamiteg3963 The show went down hill FAST after Season 5.
But that happens when the originals writers and producers walk away and the "talent" takes over.
The sheer presence of the original death is amazing. The low/absent music, the piecing gaze, the steady pace.
Original Death attitude is terrifying
The Best in attitude and style
Billy is no match for him, not even close to 10% of original death
Godfather Robb exactly he seemed even more terrifying then Lucifer ... or stronger then god
@@ivo3598 yeah!, he said to dean once that he could even reap god himself if he so wanted to, but was never given a reason to!
Alexis Sanchez they need to bring his ass back Billie to modern generation lol the old death gives you those chilling vibes
@@jamesmatthews6715 well said
Isn't it ironic that death died tho? They've tried to write themselves out of it with the empty and acclimation of billy but they still wrote themselves into a shitty situation. I would have made death tied to his scythe and striking him with it would just make him evaporate albeit temporarily. I think wielding the scythe should give you the power to command death, and I put emphasis on command, because death shouldn't be able to be killed, he should be eternally bound to the scythe meaning if someone took that scythe they would command him, and he would manifest next to them forced to do their bidding. I don't think any magic should be strong enough to command death, the only exception should be gaining possession of his scythe, I think its stupid how Lucifer was able to do that with magic.
One of the best interactions in the series. Absolutely love Julian Richings playing the role to perfection.
Original death was clearly the best . Never should have killed him off .
you can see a major spoiler right here for the last season death will reap god which means death will kill god for the last season
Especially the way they killed him on a show. Shame just to remember it.
@@petervickers911 he said he would reap god not kill him, remember when he reaps souls he isnt technically killing them as they do live on.
I agree
@@hfjtrytry9216 chuck said he doesn't have a soul
The one entity in all of Supernatural lore that Dean is legitimately terrified of. You can see it in every interaction they have just how... see, I have to say terrified again because other synonyms like scared or afraid just aren't powerful enough; terrified Dean is. Even in later interactions when it's clear Death has some strange affection for Dean, or at least tolerance. Personally I choose to believe the OG Death is pulling a 'God' and letting Billie run the show whilst he takes a holiday. Dealing with the Winchesters must be exhausting.
He was so terrified of him that he went back on his initial plan of double crossing Death after he got his ring.
Initially Dean was going to stop Sam from saying yes to Lucifer and jumping into the cage after getting Death's ring. Bobby even made a comment about the consequences of lying to Death when he saw Dean playing with the Horsemen's rings.
I'd like to think that Dean truly believed in Sam and let him be his own man & make his own decision to say yes and jump in the cage. But part of me thinks that part of his decision to let Sam say yes is because he was so terrified of Death that he was even willing to lose his brother over pissing off Death.
I love the original death character. I like Billie but original death was more scary and had the death look about him.
He looked more skeletal
yeah but thats all was imagine this guy face really look like pale face rider
The tall reaper in season one would be a good death
Chuck like the old death better too. The new death kept stucking her scythe where it didn't belong.. arghh
Billie= stuck up arrogant b**** that needs an eternal slap over and over
ngl, I was genuinley really angry at the Show when they killed the original death, he was one of my favourite characters :((
Original death for sure he just had a badass complexion to him the fact that he calls lucifer a child is funny
God, there's such a stark contrast in the incredibly well written and atmospheric show this USED to be, and what it became. The Kripke era is unmatched. Julian was PERFECT.
I really wanted a meeting between God and OG Death. It seems that they really liked and respected each other.
Great thought
I feel like you called it. How else would they kill god? Remember he said in the end he would kill him too. So I feel like they’ll bring him back.
2:15
Nah, OG Death is dead. And he said he would reap him, not kill him. It's different.
@@David-nw4nk Apocalypse world Michael said that he enslaved the death of his world that means that death is not a multiversal being like god so god created death . In that way how could the og death be more powerful to rip god ?
It’s funny Sam and dean are actually scared of original death, but Billie? Yeah they don’t fear her in the slightest.
The old death was terrifying, identity you wanted to tiptoe around and show respect. The new death, well is almost friend like. You know she has the same abilities but she doesn't come over as terrifying as the old death.
Agreed. It has very much to do with the aesthetics of the character you're trying to portray. Billie doesn't do a very good job at the job in my opinion and her mannerisms are much worse than the Original.
Old death was old ass fuck and demanded that respect billie is like u said more there friend age wise so
This is what you get when casting and writing choices are made based on "affirmative action" or other SJW ideals instead of talent or suitability for a job or role. I mean I guess you live under a rock to have not seen this SAME thing happening all over entertainment...
Old Death was the old CEO who worked hard and demanded respect from everybody.
Billie is the regular employee who got promoted.
You can't expect the same results from two different type of characters. I have no problem with her.
idk billies pretty cold and caculating which is kind of scary too while keeping a friendly face isnt that a little bit worse? not being able to read someone right away that could instantly take your soul
I love how above board Death is compared to the other horsemen. I can't imagine a better or different version of death in any format after seeing Julian.
"God? You'll reap God?"
"Oh yes, God will die too Dean
Won't lie that part legit scared me when i first saw it lol
Imagine at the end of the season 15 old Death appears and takes Chuck
Teloah I doubt that would happen but I’d be so hyped if that was the case
@@Zimzilla99 It's so good, they have to do it.
He might've been dethroned as death, but maybe he's still a regular reaper. That'd be a human way for God to go.
Vicar RS turned out, that little bacteria Dean is managed to reap the Reaper.
And then he dies... I'm still waiting him to come back, best character ever
Everything has to die eventually even Death, but death can only truly die when there’s no life left to die.
I loved when Death was walking and that guy bumped into him. Death just stopped, wiped off his shoulder where the guy bumped him, glanced back at him, and then the guys dies right there on the sidewalk. Priceless.
SH!T YEAH. Best character intro ever. ooooh death.... "Watch it buddy!"
jeez, watching the two deaths side by side, why would they even consider recasting him, the man was a legend
At 1:34 when he lighting strikes and Death's face lights up, I legit thought I saw skeleton. Like Grimm Reaper skeleton.
The OG Death had the attitude that fit right with his character. Even how he says 'To a thing like me, a thing like you...', there was some pride and ego in it and yet charming.
That and he does look like someone you would see run a funeral home.
Yes, there was def a hint of skull.
I also notice how Death is able to understand different slang while also being very old. Like when Dean said "above my pay grade." Death seems able to speak and understand anyone from anywhere. I also love Death's love for pizza and food. Something everyone can deeply relate with.
The real hero here is the guy who made that pizza....
Or the city would've been destroyed
Still i miss the Old Death i still believe he still isn't dead you can't kill Death i wish he might be the way to fight off God
KanIHabe DaPusiBaws I’ve always wanted to try that pizza, looks really good
One possible way, Billie is just promoted to Death of this little galaxy. Old Death is free to go on being the Death of the entire multi-Universe.
Not until Death of the Discworld, Billie is just a reflection of Death. Independent for sure, but still a reflection.
He is dead, deaths scythe is powerful that can kill anyone.. Even if its only a scratch its like a poison.
@@PinoyDDTank someone finished the series hahaha
I love him. He is by far the BEST “villain” in the show.
Check him out in the show the magicians. He plays a demon called astaroth.
Original death was the best death!
Eihän toi Billie oo mitään tohon verrattuna.
Definitely agree!
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Julian Richings played death flawlessly both in look and attitude. Terrific actor!
Original Death should still be around they could have made it way better
I cant stand billie as death
Billie death almost seems like a friend right, the old death you really wanted to tiptoe around because she was afraid it was going to kill you in a split second.
@Ivy McClelland they might not be able to because the actor might be dead
@Ivy McClelland never mind he still kicking
@@davidcunningham00 honestly thats what makes billie lame, the old death clearly made you feel like he was in power, even when Dean is already controlling him he couldn't talk to death in a disrespectful way. And the fact that the old Death doesn't care much about Dean, Lucifer, Castiel, or the entire planet, makes it clear how old and powerful he actually is; Everyone and Everything is insignificant in comparison to him.
while there's billie... she's alright, but not as cool as old death.
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I think the biggest difference between old death and Billie is age. It's clear that Old Death had seen more than any entity and probably knew more. His "life is insignificant" attitude got him killed when he let a significant entity make him afraid. Billy is young enough to feel like a politician in a way, she's like a mother in the sense that if she told you it was your time you'd be happy to go with her. Old Death probably just forced every soul to follow him
This character’s intro must’ve felt like one of the most important to get correct at the time and they certainly nailed it.
I want to see the original Death meet Tom Ellis' Lucifer. That would be fascinating.
To be fair Luci would not survive that encounter, Death hates any form of Lucifer
@@phantom1a2 Too bad.
@@awasdq7684 he is not tho, he only was controled by him Becouse of a special spell, without it death would not care to join either side
Original Death meeting Comic Book Lucifer would be incredible
Vertigo Lucifer is above Death of the Endless, who is the version of Death in that universe.
Death is better than Death imo.
Original Death is one of the most amazing introductions, I never tire of watching him, powerful performance by Julian Richings he was born for the role of Death
The original Death was one of the best character castings that I've ever seen on TV or in movies. They never should have gotten rid of him.
No one in supernatural, got your attention more than when the original death walked in the room
The old death was much better, then the new death.... i hope he comes back for season 15!🤞🏼
zack stoner I doubt he comes back as death is now Billie so Billie aka death will reap god so his words will still stand
@@zackstoner4523 he = an incarnation of death
she = an incarnation of death
i think the real death is that weird black creature in the "nothing"
@@Bleg94 that creature in the empty is the Shadow, and it's the embodiment of entropy(true nothingness). It's older than Death and God
Guys, don't be mad when Death will not "reap God" next season. Hilarious that people believe it will be so easy.
zack stoner reapers have died many times in the show and death was a horsemen which all the horsemen can and have died. Billie already explained that when she died that by some universal rule that since death was gone the next reaper to die became death, so Billie is death. The OG death can’t come back
Yo this man right here gives a literal meaning to big daddy reaper with his performance. Very well done
There are no words to explain how original death is so terrifying and great his attitude , the way he talks it's like he is so real I just love him big fan I just wished he lasts forever in this show
I like Billy but she is nothing compared to him
You know they're gonna bring back OG Death from the empty and he's gonna reap God. The ultimate end.
Billie is a temp. Julian Richings plays the best version of Death on-screen ever. Calm, articulate, cold, intelligent, Deity-level aloofness with a sprinkling of fun in his love for good food.
Death is that one immutable force that no living thing can resist. The great, the small, the rich, the poor, the strong, the weak...Death comes for us all, and there is nothing we can do to slow it or stop it. Bravado or not, pride or not, no human is truly unafraid of Death.
Julian Richings was truly master class as Death. He was the consummate portrayal of the mightiest of the Four Horseman, and will always be the only Death in my mind in the Supernatural setting.
Billie has nothing to do against the original Death, she is... Ok, but the original was epic.
Nothing against Billie, she's gorgeous. But I wish they'd bring back the og death to the final season.
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You know that you're very important when Death tells you, "Keep living."
She should have said "Not today" missed opportunity
" what do you suppose death does to those who lie to him?" Love that line.
I just can't imagine anyone preferring Billie. Original Death will always be my favorite Supernatural character. Remember his first scene when he drove up and got out of his car? Love it.
You can tell ( and ive always admired this even the first time watching this episode ) that Dean is being very careful with what he says. Just showing how much Death truly scared him.
Spot on acting from Jensen.
"*SUCH BS*" hahahahaha that cracked me up so much! Agreed. They should have just had the original come right back like a bad case of herpes and say something witty and chilling like, "Hello again, Dean. Did you miss me?"
"But... I killed you!"
"Ah, yes, let's waste however much time you like contemplating the ridiculousness of killing death. Go on, whenever you're ready. I've got all the time in the universe."
Really, the very idea of an entity so old that it might just predate the Creator, being killed by a pesky little human...
ikr, though I think Old Death exaggerated that he was older than god/chuck cause he doesn't "remember" but I mean Amara didn't recognize him at all or knew who he was.
Or just tell em " you only cheated death and u can't escape from death forever" and laugh " besides than were other who beat death as well but i still caught up with them too hahahaha"
I'm sorry but Dean is no way in hell a pesky little human lol. Put some respect on his name. He's pretty much the second most dangerous being in the show considering he's killed/defeated just about everyone.
@@awasdq7684 bro even God needed help. Multiple times. So your point is?
@@awasdq7684 my initial reply still stands....
The original pizza eating scene with Death was one of the funniest, craziest, most intense scenes I've ever watched
One does not simply recast Jualian Richings as Death.
I like Billy, but no one could ever top him.
Dont like her but i sleeped on the scenes were she wasnt death yet and i prefer the first death so
Original Death is one of my all-time favorite TV characters ever. He nailed it to perfection.
I give The actress playing Billie credit, she does play her role really well. And I don't entirely mind their way of saying there always needs to be an aspect of death. I'm interested in her pure attitude towards upholding cosmic balance. But I also agree the original death was a very fantastic character and a hard act to beat. I guess that's why they're trying to go for a different approach. Which I can respect.
Yeah, the newer, more approachable, death really felt like a cosmic librarian/admin rather than a cosmic force. It diminished the Mantle but I guess it was kinda needed to make it easier to write plots.
11:51 Curious if there's a book on there where Dean dies from eating pie.
Definitely!
I like his taste in food and his attitude. Billie, not so much.
I was talking to my friend about it and I feel like the problem (a big one anyway) with Billie being death. Is that knowing her name takes away a lot of her power/mystique. The original Death was never given a name, he was just Death with a capital D. If he appeared into a room everyone had to go "Oh shit it's Death"
However now when death shows up in the room everyone goes "Oh it's Billie". Just doesn't work as well.
"Regardless at the end I'll reap him to" said in almost sad respect of a task he is destined to do with not even a touch of arrogance over the true power he wields... The Best Death
The original actor who played death played it perfectly. Clearly powerful, clearly confident, but charming and not inherently evil.
Hilarious that people really believe that Chuck will be killed by....Billie. No chance at all.
Reap and kill are different things, anyway. Death can kill God only if he's weakened.
@@kolcarti1432 When was it stated Death can only kill God if weakened in the series?
God is stronger than Death. Death said that he will REAP him. Not KILL him. It's different.
When is it stated in the series God is stronger?
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Why all these questions lol
Nothing is clear in this show, but God is multiversal while there is a Death in every universe. Death has many weaknesses that God does not have. Amara does not know Death, so it's means that her and God are older than Death. He can reap him? sure. But reaping is not the same as killing, reaping is just essentially "confirming" a death in supernatural. God>Billie. Come on...
I love how Dean was really scared and terrified by the original death. It made this version more believable.
Craziest thing about this scene are the dead bodies in the back just casually lying around just by deaths presence
I love how both DEATh and Lucifer have this great sense of clairvoyance: "You're going to let your brother jump into that fiery pit." -- That, right there, after having seen the rest of the series, past the *first* apocalypse arch, show that they know how things are going to play out, though there's always that chance that the threads of fate aren't quite set in stone.
"Original death vs billie death" not Even a question original all the way
The big problem for me is Death’s relation with Dean:
OG: he fears him like hell (litterally) or even more
Billy: he mocks her
I see each version as the one needed for that particular time. The first death was more, the I'm here and i'm to be feared. He was unapproachable, you could literally feel the power. Billie on the other hand is more approachable, more understanding of the Winchesters roles. She also knows without her help, everything will be gone. But here is the difference, Billie was human once. Lived and died, eventually became a reaper, then death. So it's her humanity, that i think people do not like. Personality, both are good to great (first death is always great), but each one is what is needed, for it's time and place in the story
You know someone's powerful when they're cutting a pizza with a knife and fork, and nobody's saying anything rude to them
Original Death was the best! He was much more `death like`. I like Billie but the original Death was just so good!
og death had A LOT of personality too, I mean Dean even figured out how to win him over, ethnic food, which makes sense. when you eat food you are essentially eating death as what you are eating is no longer alive, so death might have an interest in how he tastes in different cultures.
Biggest difference between Death and billie Billie cares, she is a player in the game of life. Death, did not. He was Death! Barely saw any creation as more than a bacterium. Billie treats Dean as her equal, Death treated him like a nuisance and it terrified him
Totally agree.. it's like the difference between a terrifying lord/wizard sending in an army and one of the soldiers from the front lines stepping up to become the general.
I think even jensen ackles said that julian kind of scared him too while he was in character
There's my man the original death! Please comeback! Thank you so much for uploading this video. Original death was the best, he's the only one I'll acknowledge as death.
"Now would you like an instruction manual" just a second ago he was being serious and scary then he being funny. Damn it I love the original death so much.
My favorite scene with old death was when Dean fearfully said "Death is our bitch now." You can hear the fear and regret in that sentence.
Been looking for this full scene. Ty for the upload, WW.
I liked OG Death... loves food, does his job like a boss!
You're right.
"If you ever attempt to bind me again, you'll be dead before you try. Nice pickle chips, by the way."
I have a feeling that when he said "Oh yes, God will die too Dean" he knew exactly what was going to happen and that Dean and Sam would defeat Chuck.
You can tell dean doesn't respect Billie as much as the OG Death. Maybe its cause he went through a lot more shit since he met the OG, and killed him. But I still think its interesting.
x240voltsx I agree. Dean respected and feared him. It’s almost like he isn’t afraid of Billie at all. It’s just not the same.
Watching that scene where Dean "Kills" Death is just hilarious, I mean I find the idea that you can even kill Death itself to be idiotic, Death is a force in the universe just like Life, both bring balance and I feel the only way to truly "kill" Death would be the most impossible task to do, as to literally snuff out every speck of life in the known universe along with all the others out there till there is nothing left, then there would be no need for Death to be. But I guess for stupidly written plot reasons, Dean stabs Death and destroys his physical form, but there is no way I believe Dean actually killed Death
There was a series of books called the Incarnations of Immortality. I believe they were written by Piers Anthony. In them, things like Death, War, Time etc were replaced by the human that killed them. It was a great series of books (8 in all I believe), and the one about Death was called On a Pale Horse. If you can find them, might be worth it.
Yeah the original had this aura like he had to be careful not to kill everything by accident. You really didn't want to make that dude even notice you.
He really does look like death. Perfect casting.
2 Things:
First, Billie needs about double the time to introduce herself as Death, than Death did with a considerably worse outcome. She's really kinda meh.
Second, I do love how Deans interactions with her kinda mirror most of the Fanbase. Death was the only non-allied Supernatural being he truly respected, feared even. He tried to be polite and/or apologetic, depending on the situation, up to the moment he killed Death.
He's not like that toward Billie even though she has the same powers and is just as dangerous. He's just as rough talking with her, as he is to every other high powered being thinking too highly of itself and one of the first things he does is try setting up a bargain under his own conditions.
Really shows that he didn't respect Death, because Death could have reaped him without lifting a finger, but because Death was just really, really cool.
I never understood why they killed off such a great character and replaced him with an average one.
9:43 he is TREMBLING. SHAKING with fear. oh my freaking Chuck I never noticed that
The choice of Julian Richings to play the role of Death was one the greatest casting decisions in all of television.
I just want the old death to comeback before S15 ends.
Chuck even said he liked first death better. I hope they bring him back he was scary and snarky and it worked. Billie is like a big sister telling her little brother what to do while their parents are away
I love how 90% of the Comments are either calling Billie "dei" because shes a Black woman or sexualizing her
This fandom cannot stop acting like children.
Though not as terrifying, she’s not bad. I don’t see why ppl hate her tbh. I will say Old Death is preferred.
Probably because she's in place of the old Death, everyone wants the old Death instead of her
it's probably like "How dare you stand where he stood" kinda thing
There's nothing to worry about. the old death is more powerful than the new ones
Original Death 💀 Wins all day long. ANY DAY OF THE WEEK!!!!
If you think about it they both represent the two sides of death. OG death was scary and unemotional. Billy is softer and emotional. Much like how some fear death, while others welcome it.
3:21 when you think you the main character😂🤣🤣
Actually, it's consistent with the Incarnations of Immortality rules.. except that for death, the next 'death' has to kill the previous one.
And over time, they 'become' the role, more and more. I think it's a Piers Anthony series. Might be covered in On a Pale Horse (first book in series).
The horsemen are only incarnations.. temporary holders of the position.. the position is the office.
The original Death was so awesome
Hey waywardwinchester! Just wanted to tell you that i come back and watch all of your SPN content every now and again. Goated creator. Goated show. This particular death was the absolute best.
wait wait wait...rewatching the scene with Billy did they just spoil season 15 opening.....
"Stab by a ghoul in a cemetary"
She did say that all the stories ended the same way except one. So more than likely he doesn't get stabed.
Hey can you please make a video about the best of Dean/ death/Sam and or other supernatural characters please