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Chris Barrie was filming another comedy show at the same time as Red Dwarf called The Brittas Empire. Filming both at the same time stressed him out, and he didn't enjoy filming season 6. He wanted a break from Red Dwarf to focus on Brittas because it was easier to make, so, Doug Naylor came up with this idea so he could leave. While filming season 7, he actually rekindled his love for the show.
I thought it was because he was in the Tomb Raider films.
@@deanholt2135Tomb Raider was 4-5 years after this.
@@deanholt2135The first Tomb Raider movie came out in 2001. Series 7 was in 1997.
He was also in a third sitcom called A Prince Among Men that year, and didn't he lend his voice to satirical show Spitting Image until it ended around this time too?
@@FoggyD I though Spitting Image finished by the mid 90s? I would like to see what Kat and Paula would make of the Chicken Song though, I don't know if American novelty records were weird enough for a parody of them to make sense!
One of the best pre-title sequences of all time, absolutely legendary
"They love each other..."
Oh, i can't wait...😂
:D Ou yes,... there is that. :D
Oh Listy!
We all know what is coming.
😂😂
More reliable than a garden trimmer.
This Rimmer situation leads to one of the most memorable Red Dwarf scenes soon.
🎶Ar-nold Rim-mer🎶
Don’t listen to those you say any season is bad. We’re lucky to have any red dwarf episodes and they’re all good.
Even Pete?
Even Series 9???
@@Alexandrashepiro I'll be honest, the only one I really didn't enjoy on a recent rewatch was the very 'meta' special, the rest of it all had some parts that were good.
"Pete" and Krytey TV? You're willing to die on that hill?
Not every episode is great, but there's something great in every episode.
This.
So true
The ring of former Aces at end is pretty emotional and when Lister says Are you going to be the one to break the chain? Just pushes it into an emotional gut punch that British comedy does so well.
@@TroyConvers5000 oh yes!!!
yeah - reminds me of Blackadder
The music really sold that moment.
I think it's one of the greatest single images in any sci-fi media. Just the scale of it, and what it represents.
Red Dwarf occupies such a strange territory. Absolutely it's a sitcom...and obviously it's having fun with sci-fi. But the normal approach to writing such a series would be to lampoon and satirize sci-fi...to reduce sci-fi to a simple caricature...but instead, they take the harder route, and insert comedy into some very intriguing sci fi stories that would work as serious Star trek etc episodes. It's easy to forget what a hard assignment this actually is for the writers and actors...
This is the reason Patrick Stewart became a fan, cos he was expecting parody and realised he was watching something original
After everything they went through, Lister and Rimmer were able to part as friends.
Their development is one of the best in the entire series along with Kryten's.
Brian freekin' Cox! I'd forgotten how many big names popped up on Red Dwarf.
You are clearly in need of The Rimmer Experience
SHHHH
The ring of Aces scene was definitely helped by Howard Goodall's music. Perfection!
British TV wouldn't be what it is without Howard Goodall's music
He outdid himself with this one. Ace Rimmer sky surfing on a crocodile is enhanced by the totally earnest hero music.
Rimmer is the new Dread Pirate Roberts
This Ace Rimmer was really different, he went on to manage a leisure center in Whitbury!
Contrary to the opinions of many fans, series 7 isn't objectively "worse" that previous series, it's just *different*. It is different in ways that feel weird. However, much like Paula astutely observes, the episodes that follow continue a process of the show "getting back to its roots" as it changes and grows. Some of that growth is "three steps forward and two steps back", but the show does make progress in the end.
I honestly think a lot of the series 7 dislike was a timing thing. A lot of folks kind of grew up with Red Dwarf and then after a four year break had moved on, there’s a whole load of difference to being in your teens to being in your early twenties, four years can seem like ten! The ‘new’ Red dwarf would never be as good as the classics they remembered from their ‘childhood’ with rose tinted glasses, even though it was literally only four years. So many people never really gave some of the changes a real chance.
@@TroyConvers5000saying humour is subjective then falsely branding someone "misogynistic" for having a different opinion (one most fans agree with) is absolutely pathetic. You must be extremely insecure
Surfing out of an exploding airplane on the back of a crocodile, what a guy!
The sad thing is, you'll probably know the exact moment this season is considered by many to be 'less than' You know how collective minds work, it hasn't changed all that much over the decades.
But this season is as solid as any, has some of the most memorable moments of the entire show, for me. It was great, start to finish.
A TV critic once said something like "Red Dwarf went from traditional sitcom to action-comedy to drama-comedy, which is what it is here". Maybe you guys are just really into the drama-comedy of it.
I do love episodes that show Rimmer and Lister being friends, not just enemies. I love the hug at the end of this one.
Whatever happened to Gary Bushell?
I look back at them as a very powerful example of found family. Sure their bond was forged through adversarial terms but they were brothers in the end.
Even when Chris Barrie was gone...he still had the best Cameos!
Without him life would be much dimmer!
I heard that if you play your cards right, he just might come round for dinner.
Brian Cox played 'Sydney Newman' in the Doctor Who docudrama 'An Adventure in Time and space'
It’s actually heartwarming to see you two enjoy series 7 so far. This and series 8 were pretty divisive but they’re two of my favourite series
Loved 8, by far the funniest series
@@TheFerretLivesI think the jokes in 8 are awful, though. Not to mention it gets a little lad-culture-y.
8 was a pretty solid setup. I didn't love the execution all the time, but I by no means consider it a bad series. They all have their charm.
@wwemusicfanC yeah, I didn't really want to go into specifics in case they read these, but since you're mentioning it, I'll concede that. The continuity, which was never great to begin with, is completely abandoned after the first 8 series, and each one is just kind of it's own self-contained thread. That is jarring as you transition between series and I don't love it... but if you get past that the show is never really bad.
Remember earlier serieses where you girls were singing about alligators and crocodiles in the outro?
We've all been waiting for this episode to pop up and bite you in the arse over that old outro :).
I won’t talk about what happens next, but this is one of the best character send offs in TV history.
Agreed.
So I’m just gonna put this out there: no genre show has *ever* summarised its general themes and flavour as well as that “morning!” from Rimmer.
Brian Cox was the Chief in SuperTrooper., the 1st Hannibal Lecter in the film Manhunt. William Wallace's uncle in Braveheart.
Manhunter was the original version of Red Dragon and Brian was a terrific Hannibal . I think it's far better than the later version .
Also william Stryker in x-men 2.
And uncle argyle in brave heart,
also in Red 2
I first saw him in an episode of Hammer House of Horror with Peter Cushing.
😢 The final resting place is one of the best scenes in the series.
I love series 7, even though Rimmer leaves he's still so prominent. And yes, I cry whenever I watch the end of this episode, who wouldn't
Yup, this is the only episode of Red Dwarf that gets me emotionally, and it does so every time.
The funeral they have for ‘Rimmer’ saying goodbye to the person he used to be, including making him an officer. And then the endless ring of Ace Rimmers circling the planet. And Lister saying that they all passed on the flame, and would Rimmer really break that chain. God, what a scene.
Season 6 was the peak in terms of critical recognition, for sure. Gunmen is an actual award-winning story.
Ive said it before - there's good stuff in Red Dwarf all the way, even in the TV movie that came out in 2020. Not many comedies can manage a thirty-year run with that kind of success and consistency.
This season is a lot better than I remember it being at the time.
That synchronised hair flick at 8:08 was absolutely perfect haha
Brian Cox was also the original Hannibal Lecter, before Anthony Hopkins.
If Ace skysurfing on the alligator isn’t already a T-shirt, then it should be. It would also make a great gif.
Ace Rimmer sky surfing on a crocodile: Your argument is irrelevant.
We get some amazing Ace Rimmer lore and a great character sendoff this episode. And that bit with the coffins orbiting the planet is surprisingly moving in its way, as was "Rimmer's" funeral. It's up there with the best Red Dwarf has to offer.
"Oh they love each other, that was so beautiful!"
You girls are such girls.
Don't ever change🙂
This is my favourite episode of RD. Its obviously very funny but it also gives Rimmer the opportunity for growth and shows all the other Rimmers answered the call to be better people. It shows that people can be better and can overcome there shortcomings, in the best tradition of Sci-fi when its at its best it can give you hope.
My first TV audition was to play the king's champion in the opening medieval VR scene. As I thought Sarah Alexander (the queen) was the most beautiful woman I had ever seen I was a bit annoyed not to get it!
Apparently
Bless your hearts ladies. That's 2 - 1 to Paula for tears by my reckoning. Look forward to this every week. Thank you.
I didnt mind series 7. Its more small bits of it that bothered me, but not enough to spoil my enjoyment.
Series 8, its more just wasted potential for what was presented to us.
THIS
did you notice the ace rimmer graveyard is the red dwarf logo?
Series 7 rocks just as hard as any other series of the Dwarf.
everyone loves how this episode was pulled off. the evolution between s1 in which both the characters and cast didn't like eachother, to s7 where they genuinely seem like good friends. even the most diehard of s7 haters feel that.
"Vut a guy!" - German soldier
For when it came out series 7 is very "Modern" It was a huge departure from what we were used to. But rewatching it now, it's perfectly cromulent to a good contemporary sitcom. For UK viewers, it was a little ahead of our tastes at the time, but now, it just works.
Series 1.... "Oh my Gods RIMMER I hate him so much"
Series 7... "He's not going to leave is he, I'm crying"
hehehe just wait for Blue
In the Ace Rimmer opening, that's so obviously a little toy soldier on the parachute!
Red Dwarf in a nut shell👌
Between Gordon Brittas (The Brittas Empire) and Arnold Rimmer (Red Dwarf), Chris Barrie was simultaneously the two biggest gimboids on British Television. Something had to give, and as it turns out it was Rimmer.
Not the first, or last, time a sitcom has had to make a major mid-season casting change. Some shows roll with the punches better than others. Red Dwarf, of course, has never been shy about major makeovers, though, and whatever other criticisms I might have about this era of the show, how it rolls with this particular punch in the episodes to come was as interesting to me as everything else Red Dwarf has tried to do. Will be fun, as ever, to see how your eyes see it.
People can be whiners, I've been a longtime fan of Red Dwarf since '92, and I've enjoyed and re-watched (and re-rewatched, and re-re-re-re-re-you get the idea), and I love every Series from 1 to 13! Sure, maybe some episodes are weaker than others, but that's like saying one star is less bright than another... they're both stars with their own solar systems! I think there is plenty to enjoy in even the weakest episodes across any RD Series, and I'd still watch any one again! I hope y'all enjoy it as much as my family and I have!
"Tikka To Ride" was always my favorite episode! As a kid it blew my mind realising Jfk was the only person who could do the job....
Lol, closely followed by any ace episode
The first 10 minutes of this episode was another location shoot. Budget went UP this series
Not sure I've been waiting for any episode more than this one... Except maybe the next for what it means moving forward 😂 (I am firmly camp I like this season a lot)
Also this.
yess this seasons honestly not too bad in my opinion I love it so much
Another great reaction, Gals. Love your fresh eyes on this classic show. So much enthusiasm and pathos. A great episode. Cannot wait for your reaction to the remainder of this series.
BTW your best of the best idea being Series 5 with Demons and Angels swapped out with Gunmen of the Apocalypse is absolutely spot on! ❤
Season 7 is fine. It's still Red Dwarf but it's developed into a different,yet still recognisable series. All the series are improvements on what has gone before, all different, of course but at least imho, all smegging brilliant in their own way! Great fun reaction as always guys. Love to see you enjoying one of my favourite series with such enthusiasm.😁👍
Just wait for the latest film! It’s even more emotional ❤ I really love how they’ve made Lister’s and Rimmer’s relationship from enemies to this bickering ‘bromance’, I think it shows very well how they’ve grown as characters. Another thing I love to see are those little heroic moments, where Rimmer isn’t just coward. ❤
I remember getting a bit of a lump in my throat at this one when it aired, that moment when you see all the ace rimmers making a ring around a planet.
That opening might be my Favorite ever for the show!! The idea of Ace Rimmers being interdimensional heroes, passing on the torch to other Rimmers, is comic book perfection!! The whole episode was great! Don't let the naysayers fool you, this was a great season/series!! There are 8 episodes, but remember, there was a LONG wait for this return, so they rewarded the fans!
The Queen is Sarah Alexander. She was on Coupling and one of the witches on Stardust
Was in green wing to 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Wasn't she also in Smack the Pony?
@@cookiemonster1409 yes 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Apparently
People that don't like 7 just don't like change. It's an awesome series.
Change is fine, crap writing isn't.
Howls of laughter and tears of joy. Doing something right. @@kalofkrypton
@@kalofkryptonit doesn’t have crap writing, though. IMHO series 7 is “a” (not “the”) high point for the show in terms of the writing.
@@glyninmonsterland547 Seven is the beginning of the end really.
First two episodes are by far the best. Few more decent moments, but the sharpness is fading. Kryten gets wasted and Chloe Annet is wasted too to a certain extent.
By the end its just sad. 8 only seems to maintain the childishness without the intelligence. BTE is heartbreakingly bad. After that, it's mostly just boring.
@@kalofkryptonyour comment contains a spoiler, if the gals haven’t watched any more yet (which they may have). Just being careful!
The first 2 episodes of series 7 are fantastic. It takes a turn for the rest of the series which is different. Some people find it easier to say something sucks just because it’s different to what they’re used to and are not used to it so they become cynical about it. A similar thing happens in series 8 where a certain dynamic change happens and certain people say they don’t like the direction. I’m not one of them though. I’m a hardcore dwarfer and I love all the series of the show and I’m looking forward to seeing you react to the rest of it.
It's probably been said already.. but it's smoke me a kipper baby😂😅
But it's also stoke me a clipper now too!
My memory was that this was the series when it started to tail off too, but I've enjoyed the first two much more than I expected to. Your enthusiasm must be catching, thanks!!
Series 7 was never that bad, people just knee-jerked hysterically because it had been 4 years and it was different. I also think there is a subset of red dwarf fans who only wanted the show to be silly blokey comedy hijinks and resented it leaning more into the sci-fi and dramatic elements.
Gals from the dwarf. I think this series 7 is a big emotional rollercoaster of a series. Like bill and ted said to themselves you'll see.
I love every single series even the "bad" ones, just different humour, better acting and so on.
Alligator sky surfing !!! That image will stay for a long time !
I think people missed Rimmer so much in season 7 that they wouldn't accept it, but I see no reason for disliking season 8; it's brilliant!
You mentioned your top 3 episodes, this one is definitely in my top 3. It has so many memorable scenes
I love series 7 AND 8.
7 feels different to the rest because they shot without a studio audience so the actors didn't get the immediate feedback they were used to, plus the budget went up, filming got more cinematic and we lost Rot Grant. But all that said, what we got is still fantastic!!
And 8 feels different because [REDACTED] But again what we got is just phenomenal. 8 may be my favourite series. But that's a really tough call to put any series above others.
9 is the only one that I don't love. But it signalled the return of the show after 10 years of absence, and at the time I was just glad for any thing Red Dwarf especially if it meant the chance of more to follow
The first two episodes of Season 7 are the strongest. The problem is that with Rimmer gone, the dynamic changes a bit and doesn't really vibe quite as well. It's not the most godawful, horrendous thing out there, it's just not as good. There's still certainly a lot to enjoy, but the first two episodes are the highpoint of the season, IMHO.
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I couldn't say myself, because i love series 7; and frankly have no idea what what those who say they didn't like it are on about.
My fav was the despair squid, where they 'wake up' from playing the Red Dwarf game.
I disagree with anyone who says you should stop watching at any point, Red Dwarf has ups and downs but it's always good. However, this series is the one I'm least likely to rewatch out of the original run when I come back to the show (with the exception of this episode).
This one *really* got Paula.
Fun fact: Brian Cox was the first actor to portray Hannibal Lecter before Anthony Hopkins took the role.
I kinda prefer him.
This is such a great episode :') and don't worry about anyone who says to stop watching. I've personally loved every single thing that they've ever made for Red Dwarf, Series 7 and 8 can be very fun too. Plus everyone loves different things :)
Loved this episode, I have been so excited to watch the gals reaction, and it didn't disappoint.
The next episode explains something.
One thing I love about channels that have reacted to the show 'Lost' is that they pretty much ALWAYS love the finale, which was massively hated on at the time. I'm delighted you're now doing the same for series 7 of Red Dwarf! 😁
The scene of all the Ace's orbiting the planet....is so Beautiful!
Ace Rimmer and Lister of Smeg in the same episode. Lucky Gals. Might just be the best all time beginning ever. Could watch complete episodes of Ace Rimmer all the time. James Bond, move over ! This episode is a personal favourite.
You'll know Brian Cox from playing Sydney Newman in An Adventure in Space and Time, the 50th Anniversary film for Doctor Who and as Stryker in X2 if you've seen the X-Men movies
Brian Cox was the original Hannibal Lecter in 1986s Manhunter.
He played Agamemnon in Troy.
He was William Stryker in X2.
He was also in Rob Roy, Braveheart, Chain Reaction, The Long Kiss Goodnight and the first two Bourne films.
He played Major Hogan in two of ITV's Sharpe adaptations.
And he played Sydney Newman in Doctor Who: An Adventure in Space and Time.
The medieval comedy Black Knight with Martin Lawrence was released in 2001, and I always suspected they took inspiration from Lister's Camelot VR game.
Series 8 is tied with 5 for me as my fave, it is different though (I won’t spoil why) so I can see why some ppl mightn’t like it but I love it, definitely the funniest.
If I remember (and it was over 25 years ago) Chris Barrie temporarily left the roll to be in The Britta's Empire. He does return though.
There are two famous brian Cox's.
The one in this was the world-class Scottish actor. THe other, who you're probably thinking of is Proffessor Brian Cox, the physicist and TV presenter (although when this was filmed he wouldn't not been a professor but the keyboardist in the pop band D'ream). :)
I think the writing isn't as good from here on as one of the duo who wrote it left. It's been Grant Nailor, ever since.
It's really hard to do this without spoilers. I think if the events from series 7 were spread out over 7 and 8 and 8 became 9 then I would probably be kinder about this era of dwarf.
It'll make (more?) sense in a couple months.
I always thought Series 7 was unfairly judged by people. There are some really funny but also some real emotional moments in the series (the ring of Aces around the planet for example).
I think losing the live audience and the move towards CGI affected the “feel” of the show, while losing a cornerstone of the cast (Rimmer) soured a lot of people on the series.
The next episode is clever - they were still exploring new ideas - some may not land well
First three episodes of this series are all in my top 10. I love the whole thing.
You might remember Brian Cox better as the the main Russian character in the films Red and Red2 opposite Bruce Willis, or alternatively he played the role of a master spy for Wellington in the television series centered on the exploits of Sharpe in the Nepolionic War fought in the Spanish Peninsula . There are so many roles that he has been credited with, particularly in movies but he has appeared on numerous television programmes and he has also appeared on stage in many plays including the classics of Shakespeare. I believe that his depiction of King Lear drew many excellent reviews and theatrical awards.
Can you imagine how many TRILLIONS of Rimmers have died to be able to encircle an entire planet?
It's even more impressive when you realise that each light-bee represents not one Rimmer, but two - a human Rimmer who eventually died and the hologram Rimmer who replaced him.
Watched this again recently and it’s a lot better than I remembered it.
When I met Craig Charles at an event. He signed to " Sir Vincent of Smeg" since I chose that picture of him to sign in lister in the knight wear.
The first thing I want to say to Kat and Paula is thanks for these videos. I'm new to the channel and the last day or two I've been bingeing these Red Dwarf reactions and I think you two are great.
As to why series 7 and 8 are so hated, I have no earthly idea. I've been watching the show since it actually aired on television and I think these two season are really strong. There is only a couple of things that I have seen consistently in the complaints over the years:
1. No live audience. As the show went on, they started shooting more and more of the show on location and with green screen because of how the stories were being written. By the time series 6 came out, they were at the point that most of an episode was shot without the live audience. For series 7, the ditched the live audience completely. The audience was back for series 8, so this only lasted one series, but for the sitcom purists this was enough to turn their nose up at the show. Now I understand why people disapproved of this, but the producers had thier reasons and I think they make enough sense to justify this decision. The episodes were screened for an audience to produce the laugh track, so it's no like the just pasted laughter into the show from some generic library, it was still a genuine audience reaction. A fair compromise, if you aske me.
2. The production was too good. Now this one is really stupid, but some people actually liked it more when the show looked it like it was shot on the budget of a miner's breakfast. Whilst it was, that's not point. Once the late Mel Bibby became the set designer for the show from series 3, the show just evolved and got to look better without really having more money to spend. Why this suddenly became such an issue for some people in series 7 I think goes back to the lack of a live audience. Yes, I can see why people didn't like that, but it did give the show a chance to have a more cinematic look without the restrictions that a live audience impose of how a show is shot,. The show didn't have THAT much more money, it just had a chance to look better because they were free of the practical limitations they had to work with in the past. I'm not going to deny that there is charm to cheap look, especially for a comedy, but the sets on shows like Friends were allowed to look good without people saying it's not a proper sitcom.
3. CGI in place of model shots. Now this one I must admit I do at least partly agree with. Especially on the kind of budget for a late 90's BBC show, CGI would never look as good as what the show had done in the past with models. Models and the processes used to shoot them are very expensive, so I get why they did this, but I did miss the models from earlier seasons. The CGI wasn't all bad though, like in this episode with the planet rings made out of Ace Rimmer coffins, that was great shot. A shot that likely wouldn't have been possible without CGI. So I was happy enough to just go with it, I wasn't that picky.
Brian Cox has been in absolutely loads. First 2 Bourne films, Troy and loads of others already mentioned on here …
I think one of the reasons S7 is so contentious is that it came out before ... Arrested Development, the Office, etc. The proliferation of the single-cam comedy. To kids like me who'd grown up watching every episode of the show 20 times before S7, it was a jarring and alien transition. To people watching the show linearly and completely fresh, the transition isn't that severe, cause they've probably spent more time watching single-cams than multi-cam sitcoms.
(I'll still whine about the season though. The music and pretentiousness ARE objectively off-kilter.)
So sweet to see you both in tears over this one. I don't watch Red Dwarf for SFX, but that shot of all the light bees was SHOCKING, wasn't it? I thought it was a cartoon at first. The switch to (BBC budget) CGI never really worked. In regards the comments section, I've never agreed that S6 is a high point, and definitely can't understand people who say the first two series are poor. But while this was a good episode, I'll be interested to see what you make of S7 going forward.
The CGI was damn good for 1996!
@@bigthecat100 Are you being serious? I know it was in its infancy back then, but even on broadcast I didn't like it. Maybe it was because the show had always been about tangible models?
@@JackRascal Was there any TV series anywhere that did great CGI in the 90's? Babylon 5 is credited as having the best CGI of that era and it still looked like shit. Only movies were able to afford anything resembling decent.
Series 6 was rushed out and under rehearsed, otherwise it probably would have been as beloved as Series 5. You've just hit the issue with this one: Rimmer is now no longer a central character. Incidentally the last two dead Germans are genuinely German and appeared in a later Red Dwarf special complaining about being disrespected as serious actors in this episode.
Series 7 is great! Anyone who says otherwise is just grumpy. Series 8 on the other hand does actually make me want to tear my hair out
Brian Cox was in "Troy" with Brad Pitt, two of the Jason Bourne series with Matt Damon, The Long Kiss Goodnight, with Geena Davis and Samuel L Jackson. He was in Braveheart, Rob Roy, and played Hannibal Lector in Manhunter, several years before Sir Anthony Hopkins made the role his own.
He was also the main antagonist in X-men 2 and one of the assassins in the RED (Retired and Extremely Dangerous) action films with Helen Mirren and John Malkovich.
I love this episode from the first time meeting ace to this and seeing rimmer accept his destiny after following the coffin it was great to see him come good in the end….what a guy
Brian Cox is a very well-known actor. You may recognise him from playing Sydney Newman in An Adventure in Space and Time.
You can throw a dart at a shelf of DVDs and youve got a fair chance of hitting something Brian Cox has been in - although red dwarf might be the most random entrant to his credits list!