I've built my career on analytics and SEO/SEM strategy, and I'm going to be using this video to explain to supervisors/clients that no, we can't just "go viral" or "get better ranking for everyone" Even the pee-straw part. That's the most important part for them to see.
so this is a video on game theory which is a TH-cam channel and says facts about the TH-cam algorithms but that's not a game that's a fact so its a- did we just make a Paradox
17:41 Can confirm this. My channel grew from 50k to 500k from my FNAF animations, then when the craze ended my channel was hit real hard. It was like someone flipped a switch.
I know what you mean! I was lucky though, because I made a viral video and got 50 subscribers in two days. Just try to do stuff you enjoy, and others will like your videos!
Matpat: Google is well on its way to judge a funny video based on it's comments. Me: Wait, does that mean that if I don't say Matpat's videos are funny, I won't see them anymore
8:25: Oh no, I think I know where this is leading to... 8:32 I SWEAR, MATPAT, I WILL- oh look, it's under ten dollars. Huh. Maybe I will buy- NOW LOOK WHAT YOU'VE DONE!
One time TH-cam recommended me a video from seven, maybe eight years ago. Apparently a lot of other people got recommended that same video on that same day...
This video is fresh(new) has a catchphrase/easy thing to remember in the title(Game Theory,Fidget spinner), has a bigger watchtime(about 21 minutes), is about something people might want to click... Hmm....
He *did* say it is too late to capitalize on "fidget spinner" searches, though. It has to be almost instant, in less than a week after something starts trending.
Great video. I spend a lot of time making each video and especially trying to optimize tags title thumbnail and description. Last month I got distracted and totally forgot to add any tags and launched the video with no tags. I didn't notice until 3 days later, and for no reason I just happened to go to edit something and discovered no tags. The remarkable thing is that this video performed as good as all my other recent uploads. In other words, the tags I usually use did nothing at all to assist me in getting views . Maybe the algo has progressed past that by now....who knows.
I've always wanted to know if watching a video at 2x speed gives you the same view/watch time vs watching a video at 1x speed. Why, because I always watch videos at 1.5x or 2x speed. So, does watching a video at 2x speed give you the same view/watch time vs watching a video at 1x speed?
So after MatPat did his research to make his channel better he decided he could make that into a video. Then he realized that he had to put the word fidget spinner in the title because after doing his research he knew that everybody would see it in their feed.
I love how MatPat can create a trending video when ever he wants to but still decides to give us quality content and awesome research every video. Keep it up!!!
Me, TH-camr since 2010 -> *pulls out a pencil* Never say "I already know everything" in life. MattPatt, I'm really thankful for that video. Only TH-cam...only god knows what has already changed again in the last 6 months .__.
11:12 So, that's pretty much saying that TH-cam is spying us on what we watch which ends up giving more recommended videos that they presume others will like due to their other watched content age and were they are located. That sounds really fishy...
Well no, they're not "spying on you". You're using there site, their service and consuming their product. So they're gathering data to edit and best accomadate their webpage for you. It's as if I said a restaurant I usually go to is "spying" on me because they noticed I always order a medium rare steak, and they they start welcoming me with "Same as always sir, medium rare?"
The simulation can literally only handle one MatPat. any more and the glitches would permeate the system and cause too many people to wake up before their time.
I find it ironic that he knows how to beat the system but I still don't see him on trending except film theory which every theory is number 1 for a good while
+TurretBot correction, he does know how to beat the system. But he also wants to make what he wants us to see, not what we ( necessarily ) want to see it just happens that we like what he wants to make
I can’t believe after all this time all I needed to be Pewdiepie2 was to scroll to the comment section of a well-informed, heavily researched video about TH-cams algorithm and ask if I should make videos on Pokemon Go! or The Last of Us…
That fidget spinner 'trend' died hard. Good work riding that when it was a thing, you know your stuff MattPat. Third time watching this one! Supporting you any way I can!
MatPat make ''Something MatPat wants to talk about'' theory already. Also I'll type ''looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool'' Now TH-cam thinks this video is super funny Some theorist wisdom right here.
Yeah, musicians and animators tend to have issues in this sort of setup. Especially musicians who, based on the general rules of how music works, don't feel like they should be making music longer than 2-4 minutes since most successful songs tend to fall into that range. If you're looking for a way around that, maybe produce some super long songs that are meant to be listened to as background music (like 40 minutes of focusing music or that sort of thing). Maybe even string a bunch of songs together every once in a while when you've made a bunch to give your viewers a *music binge session*! I guess most would just call that an album... but *no it's a music binge session!*
No the Google brain is paid to make something they don't have to pay to figure out how to harness unlimited power. That's how capitalism in the information age works. Robots do better work than humans.
Wow, this really put into perspective the level of Google's power of collecting and using information. Just imagine what TH-cam's algorithms will be like in just a few years.
+PokeBlock it will know everything about us, it already knows where we live - how to read - how to write - how to do math - now they're teaching it to learn... and siri knows how to speak, so... whats left besides touch and smell before its human?
I've been watching this channel and Film Theory on and off for maybe a year and a half, and I have a few things to say. Firstly, I think it's really awesome that a video like this has been made. I mean, not many channels really go into detail what TH-cam really is. I don't want to sound like a know-it-all or anything, but I sort of figured that the system that TH-cam uses for recommendations wasn't completely in the hands of the company, because I'm very aware of how fast and popular TH-cam has grown over the years. It's really great to have someone explain how it works in a way most older demographics would understand. Even as a middle school student, I found it fascinating, so thank you for that. Secondly, the way that TH-cam is evolving seems like it would be terrifying to much smaller, lesser known channels. I really hope that as the site grows, channels won't change their content to become more well-known. I know the point of this video was to help other growing channels and educate them to be smarter with the choices they make with their videos, but I hope it doesn't necessarily change their original identities. I personally enjoy smaller channels just as much as people like Markiplier and Pewdiepie (well, I don't really Pewdiepie that much, but just as an example.) I like diversity, and it's an important factor in TH-cam's growth. I just hope that channels focus on the love and care they put in each of their videos, not the likes or subscribers that they receive because them. Lastly, I don't think I'll ever do much with my TH-cam channel. I have one stupid video that has to do with Undertale, and I know most people consider it "dead." But I do think that this video is helpful for people who are trying to become more well known. Though I personally will never really do much on TH-cam, it's nice to know some channels are willing to help other channels grow and flourish. So thank you for demonstrating that. Also, I finally subscribed after watching this video :-)
Nah it is probably so whenever a fidget spinner comes up in a video a mind will think that it is time for "that most important thing what I wanted to see", and advertises the merchandise of the channel (a fidget spinner). Which will make you think twice as much about that fidget spinner... and maybe even buy it...
Was wondering why this was suddenly suggested to me (I don't have any interest whatsoever on fidget spinners and stuff), so I checked the tags used: "fidget spinner","youtube","trend","trends","youtube trending","clickbait","youtube algorithm","how to youtube","will it trend","fidget spinners","logan paul","rhett and link","top youtubers","neural network","google","matpat","game theory","game theory youtube","meta theory","metatheory","matpat game theory","fidget spinners game theory" Interesting... *illuminati magic*
Hey Mat you may not read this but I am really grateful to you for ALL your very analytic and well researched information which I watch very often and I seem to really like them thank you for all your time spend teaching people. I can not express how I appreciate it.
Matpat, you've actually inspired me to love math and science, which are both 2 very hard and confusing subjects for me even though I excel at reading, I'd like to be the kind of channel that could do this later on when I'm older. I actually want to get a job in the science community, like a scientist/doctor thing. I like medical professions, but NO that doesn't mean I watch "Saving Hope" or any of those fake-medical dramas. I'm trying my best, and I hope the best for your channel in your future.( I've been watching this channel since the fnaf theory that purple guy has cameras in his child's house.)
45% of the reason I watch you is how funny you are, 30%interested in the game, 20% getting into the the subject I don't care about like science of a hook shot, 5% is actually learning 100% best youtuber
Hey Matpat, i love your videos, much like GVC has said, it has inspired me to look deeper into things that i generally wouldn't. Your channel has brought me and my schoolmates a lot of fun and i always look forwards to your new videos, no matter what they're about. On behalf of game theorists everywhere, thank you Game Theory for making us smile...
Hey... I know this might not get read but... I just wanted to say that you are a huge inspiration to me. You've helped me realize what I want to do when I get out of school. But not in the way you have for most people. I want to be an author, but sometimes I have a hard time trying to get my whole plot to connect. Your videos have helped me learn how to hide Easter eggs and plot points in my novel. Just wanted you to know that you've helped with not only science, but art as well. Love you!
im an animator, so making long videos that can compete around 15 minutes videos will take around 2-5 months to make, and that means i will not be making enough content to keep an audience.
Matpat addressed that having that diversity can actually hurt you more than help if people come just for one type of content and skip the others. TheOdd1sOut, JaidenAnimations, Domics, and Swoozie are all very successful with almost nothing but animation videos. This is likely credited to the fact that any time they DO upload, the video isn't skipped. So while they do get hurt by the lack of content over time, the TH-cam algorithm does recognize that their audience is loyal for coming back. So as an animator, (or anyone with slow content output, really) your best friend is largely quality. Whatever will cause people to return consistently. Good luck! =)
JorShi942 For animations, try to find ways to create "fake" animations. Swoozie does a lot of this in his older work. Instead of animating a person talking, he'll draw two still images and alternate them during editing to create the illusion of an animated character talking. This obviously saves times and creates a cool aethstetic. Channels like Extra Credits and GradeAUnderA use a similar "slideshow" format to create the idea of an animated character (even though it clearly isn't). A lot of it had to do with workflow optimization and cutting corners that don't affect production quality.
Not really. The concept of neural networks is pretty kinda old right now... For example, a TH-cam channel "carykh" is owned by a person who knows how to use neural networks - and he already tried it out to generate baroque music(and got quite nice, copyright-free results), jazz music(which kinda ended up bad .-.), photos of celebrities, evolution simulators...
You should do a theory on the psychology of those extreme fans that stalk their youtube idols. It seems like every big youtuber has to deal with creepy fans invading their personal space at some point.
If only it was just TH-camrs. Anyone with an internet personality or a celebrity (for example John Travolta) have these fans. Heck, even female streamers with nearly no one too.
Sooo....um.... I can't tell if I'm supposed to be freaked out, confused, both, or nothing at all. So I'm going to jump into a tree and pretend I'm a caveman.
In the beginning when you were talking about how one of the people working at google didn't know how the algorithm works, I think you might've misunderstood him. Even if you didn't, I wouldn't be surprised if other people did misunderstand. Anyways, what he means by that isn't that he doesn't know how the neural network works, but rather he doesn't understand how the neural network makes its decisions. Below you can find a diagram of a neural network: Input watch time ] -----------------> Hidden layer (calculations) -----------> Output binary number (represents videos) Input genre So a neural network has a number of inputs (for example watch time and most watched youtube video genre) and a number of outputs (for example the videos that come out in your recommended list). Now, in the diagram above the input nodes are all connected to the hidden layer (which is composed of more nodes but we don't need to worry about that now). The input data is sent to the hidden layer and that does a bunch of calculations that determines how much you can rely on data. This is done and the number is sent to the output layer and if, for example, the output is formatted as a binary number, that can then be interpreted by an outside program. It's not that the people at google/youtube don't know how their algorithm (neural network) works. It's that this neural network outputs data based on calculations happening in the hidden layer, and those calculations are what google don't know about. They don't understand the determinant of the number that shows "reliance". Source: class I hope this at least helped one person. This is a topic I'm very passionate about and I would hate it if someone misunderstood what Matpat was trying to convey.
is there any way to design a program that can, upon request, tell you how it makes the decisions when it's using neural networks? From what little I know about them, they seem to be a cluster of nodes interacting with other nodes. Is it possible to follow those around and from there explain what's going on? Like obviously there could be millions of nodes, and even more connections between them, but could a computer look through them and, in english, tell you how it finds videos? Or would it take greater than exponential time, and we need to wait for quantum computers fist? This may be necessary at some point, because the less we know about how algorithms work, the less we can do to prevent algorithms from doing things we don't want. Because that's when things get the scariest...
Syogren the problem with having a computer explain in english is that neural networks determine their choices based off of the weights and the weights are determined by something called back-propagation (using calculus to get the correct answer pretty much). There isnt really a way for a computer to explain what its doing, because its just doing a lot (and when i say a lot, i mean a lot) of math. However, convolutional neural networks (another type of neural network) are more understandable since they make use of probability and classification. However, i really doubt that google/youtube's neural network is convolutional since those are normally used for image/face recognition (like facebook's automatic tagger!). Hope that cleared up some more :) (also if we want to prevent AI apocalypses from happening, all we have to do is have one function that clears a neural network and ta-dah, no more age of ultron).
Damn! I can't belive I missed this video last year. You both (Steph, Pat) made and amazing and clear explanation of how the TH-cam algorithm works. Seems to me that TH-cam is now adopting a real market behaviour (evaluating supply and demand, frequency of a products bought [in the case of TH-cam, searched], market analysis for the aimed demographic, etc). Now my Administration degree seems to be aplicable to the internet. Thanks guys! I would definetely enjoy any other content like this.
I've built my career on analytics and SEO/SEM strategy, and I'm going to be using this video to explain to supervisors/clients that no, we can't just "go viral" or "get better ranking for everyone"
Even the pee-straw part. That's the most important part for them to see.
OMG HE DID IT! HE CREATED THE ULTIMATE VIDEO TITLE! "Game Theory" "Fidget Spinners" "How to" "Create" "TH-cam" "Trend"
CosmicThomas Amazing.....
CosmicThomas amazing technology..............
OMG amazing!!!!!!
Loooooooooooollllolol
nah he forgot, IN DA HOOD, GONE WRONG
As always, your insight is incredible Matt. You truly are an inspiration.
That One Video Gamer Oh wow, this is a surprise.
That One Video Gamer channel is so amazing I've been watching it for so many years I can't even remember off the top of my head lol
Just to clarify yours and game theory lol
“There can only be one Matpat” - Matpat 2017
Fine I'll be patmat
Are I sure about that
Cough cough Austin cough cough.
I liked this comment with a spoon
"How to Create a TH-cam Trend"
*#8 on trending*
Kelecat *#9
#38 on trending now. He wasn't kidding about the "recency" thing.
Finn Balor now 7#
Kelecat #1
#9
Wait so no game and no theory? But hey, thats just a thing, a thing thing
Zach Godley It's a fact, A TH-cam FACT thanks for watching
Metagame theory.
so this is a video on game theory which is a TH-cam channel and says facts about the TH-cam algorithms but that's not a game that's a fact so its a- did we just make a Paradox
No this is a fact a TH-cam fact thanks for watching
Zach Godley OMG NO
Its amazing how much work goes into these videos.
I know, right!
It is so motivational, and makes you want to work harder yourself!
Interesting how this isn't anywhere near the top comments with that ammount of likes.
Like what, can anyone explain?
I just clicked cuz I saw Jack, and now I discovered this channel and I'm so happy I did. Thank you for making my life a bit smarter!
17:41 Can confirm this. My channel grew from 50k to 500k from my FNAF animations, then when the craze ended my channel was hit real hard. It was like someone flipped a switch.
holy shiy good job dude
I saw that when I liked the games :/ They were good
Crazy Boris Productions can't kilean the zilean
Crazy Boris Productions Also a fan from Cactuar and Tonberry days. Good times.
yeah i actually found your channel because of your fnaf vids but i still keep watching every single one you put out to this day xD
It"s really hard for new channels to grow because of the algorithm and I thank MatPat for giving me some tips to help me get off my feet.
I know MatPat is awesome for giving this advice! All of his videos on the TH-cam algorithm has really helped us a ton!
I know what you mean! I was lucky though, because I made a viral video and got 50 subscribers in two days. Just try to do stuff you enjoy, and others will like your videos!
Crystal_Nell_Ann This is true!!! Do what you love and the subs will follow! A lot of people forget to just have fun!
LoganSKDZ agreed, this actually gave me a few ideas to what I do best at! (Thanks matpat .3. ❤️❤️)
Modern Classic Gamers this is key. just have fun and show you are having fun.
"Dare I say it... Not even THEORIES"
-MatPat 2017
Me: NOOOO!!!
It's going to be okay. Stay with us!
Wow.... I actually made a comment that has gotten over 1 like.... I normally like my own comments.
Little Ant I will try to keep it together...
Matpat: Google is well on its way to judge a funny video based on it's comments.
Me: Wait, does that mean that if I don't say Matpat's videos are funny, I won't see them anymore
Apparently so.
8:25: Oh no, I think I know where this is leading to...
8:32 I SWEAR, MATPAT, I WILL- oh look, it's under ten dollars. Huh. Maybe I will buy- NOW LOOK WHAT YOU'VE DONE!
Matpat is secretly a evil genius who promote himself
DogoBytelol
DogoByte i
They say they feature "Fresh" content when all of my recommendations are posted at least a year ago
Sultan Alofi A year ago is still fairly recent when you realize that TH-cam has been out for over a decade.
Dear MatPat,
Please make a theory on how STATIC SHOCK inspired FNAF
One time TH-cam recommended me a video from seven, maybe eight years ago. Apparently a lot of other people got recommended that same video on that same day...
+CrystaltheCool Maybe he should make a theory on how STATIC SHOCK inspired FNAF
i've seen videos in my recommended feed that were from channels that stopped being active seven to ten years ago...
This video is fresh(new) has a catchphrase/easy thing to remember in the title(Game Theory,Fidget spinner), has a bigger watchtime(about 21 minutes), is about something people might want to click...
Hmm....
Bernardo Carvalho half life 3 confirmed
He *did* say it is too late to capitalize on "fidget spinner" searches, though. It has to be almost instant, in less than a week after something starts trending.
ALSO THE TAGS ARE PLACED ONLY FOR SEO
How do you know everyone watches it for 21 minutes and doesn't get bored halfway through?
MischievousMoo According to my VidIQ plugin, the average watch time is 18-20 minutes.
Great video. I spend a lot of time making each video and especially trying to optimize tags title thumbnail and description. Last month I got distracted and totally forgot to add any tags and launched the video with no tags. I didn't notice until 3 days later, and for no reason I just happened to go to edit something and discovered no tags. The remarkable thing is that this video performed as good as all my other recent uploads. In other words, the tags I usually use did nothing at all to assist me in getting views . Maybe the algo has progressed past that by now....who knows.
NOT EVEN A THEORY!?!? IMPOSSIBLE...
(Passes out)
Epicnessfordayslol Epic iii
it's just a theory that it's not a theory
hey do you think that matpat do a theory about hero brine from minecarft if you agree leave a like and answer me
*watches one minecraft video to show your younger sibling and then goes into recommended*
Ultimate minecraft fidget spinner dabbing craziness
That happened to me a little while ago. XD
I've always wanted to know if watching a video at 2x speed gives you the same view/watch time vs watching a video at 1x speed. Why, because I always watch videos at 1.5x or 2x speed.
So, does watching a video at 2x speed give you the same view/watch time vs watching a video at 1x speed?
Radcouch- Gaming industry
It was Preston playz wasn't it LOL. I used to love him but know I am just dissapointed :(
Gavitronian same
So after MatPat did his research to make his channel better he decided he could make that into a video. Then he realized that he had to put the word fidget spinner in the title because after doing his research he knew that everybody would see it in their feed.
Adam Frenkel Thus making more people click on the vid so more people would be helped by this vid.
Adam Frenkel amazing...
he also realized how simple I am based on the fact that if I see jacksepticeye I click
That is brilliance at its finest
THE 1 MEME your name is just perfect for this job dude
We need an update for 2019-2020, mat pat. Otherwise, love your content. :)
Dont say corona to often so your video stays monetized
@@bestGaming132 now people have no choice.
I feel the same way as my buddies and I are starting a stream team. One of my buddies said he'd make my videos for me to put on TH-cam too
The only thing in my recommended bar is game theory, film theory and gtlive.
Dat Dragonfly A very strong reccomended list
Dat Dragonfly Yet doesn't take the hint I don't like sports.
same
Dat Dragonfly I did too, until I took
an arrow to the knee.
Same
"Lol" I did that so that robot could think that this is funny
I love how MatPat can create a trending video when ever he wants to but still decides to give us quality content and awesome research every video. Keep it up!!!
"Awsome research", thats debateable
Charlie Murr "Awsome reaserch" you remember deadlock TF2 vs OW you remember TF2's Team Deathmatch mode
Correction *interesting research* even if it's not true it's hella fun to watch his videos
Me, TH-camr since 2010 -> *pulls out a pencil*
Never say "I already know everything" in life.
MattPatt, I'm really thankful for that video.
Only TH-cam...only god knows what has already changed again in the last 6 months .__.
A video about trending thats trending
coincidence, I think NOT
You should've called the backpacks MatPacks #notsponsered
That is actually genius *MATPAT PLEASE DO THIS*
90009kitkat oh very much yes I'm very happy you agree!😂 Just popped into my head
MatPatks
Angelo Maniacci I ordered one though and IT NEVER CAME IN 8 days.
CedakRC cirdec they discontinued
It's not just a theory, its a Meta Theory!
HydroManiac its a meta fact
WHY IS IT EVERY TIME I WATCH SOMETHING HAVING TO DO WITH FIDGET SPINNERS THE LOADING ICON IS A FIDGET SPINNER
Kill me ME TOO
ME TOO WTF XD
"KILL ME KILL ME RIGHT NOW RIGHT HERE IAM NOT AFRAID TO DIE"
*leaves letter in mailbox* Matt:"yeah, really creepy, don't ever do that again"
i left my youtube on during dinner so matpat could get more retention time
Allison Tupper true dedication.
I accidentally left it on auto play overnight hahah
These videos aren't educational, they're actually MatPat conditioning us to adopt the behaviours that bring him to the hall of recommended videos.
As soon as Matpat said that he wanted to go deeper at the start my video started buffering... TH-cam is trying to stop us from seeing the truth 😂
Juliana Ardanaz same lol
Juliana Ardanaz Nah, your wifi just sucks
Juliana Ardanaz lol
got ads there.....
AND IT BUFFERED 😤
11:12 So, that's pretty much saying that TH-cam is spying us on what we watch
which ends up giving more recommended videos that they presume others will like due to their other watched content age and were they are located.
That sounds really fishy...
The only demographic I'm against is gender as that's extremely oppressive and inconsiderate. Only people have gender, not clothes interests etc
Yeah but that's how they make money ya know? It's sad but true.
What is wrong with youtube. :( P.S. I agree with u Skits
ThebluehipsterAJ That's for new users who they have no other information on.
Well no, they're not "spying on you". You're using there site, their service and consuming their product. So they're gathering data to edit and best accomadate their webpage for you. It's as if I said a restaurant I usually go to is "spying" on me because they noticed I always order a medium rare steak, and they they start welcoming me with "Same as always sir, medium rare?"
TH-cam is Skynet confirmed.
exactly. know the Terminator spurt out random Minecraft raging kid noises
OK get the guns I'm Kyle Reese
too late to buy that fallout shelter?
Ur vid about trends is trending
that's how you know the theory works
Giant Maniac ikr
I was just about to say that XD. Such a coincidence!
My Random Mind Its NOT a coincidence!
Giant Maniac Ikr...I confidence ....I think So
"there can only be one MatPat"-MatPat
Nice Comment! XD
GavinMaster06 __________ but... yet you commented w/ 2 matpat's 8)
then who's at e3??????
Dear MatPat,
Please make a theory on how STATIC SHOCK inspired FNAF
The simulation can literally only handle one MatPat. any more and the glitches would permeate the system and cause too many people to wake up before their time.
The irony TH-cam looks for freshness and this was just recommended to me. And others from 2014
"Get your hands off my melons youtube"
Everything changed when the gaming videos attacked
I find it ironic that he knows how to beat the system but I still don't see him on trending except film theory which every theory is number 1 for a good while
Still like ur vids though
He knows what the system is... doesn't mean he knows how to beat it.
+TurretBot correction, he does know how to beat the system. But he also wants to make what he wants us to see, not what we ( necessarily ) want to see
it just happens that we like what he wants to make
damn nice!!!
Didn't he say that TH-cam doesn't really want gaming-related videos on the top of TH-cam?
So your telling me starting to make Pokémon Go videos 6 months after the game out and when nobody cares anymore was a BAD idea?!?!?!
Damn! I was just about to launch a 300 part series on it! Guess I better do a Last of Us series instead...
Braddles Gaming yes
BGRabid I've been waiting to do a series on that game for ages lol
I can’t believe after all this time all I needed to be Pewdiepie2 was to scroll to the comment section of a well-informed, heavily researched video about TH-cams algorithm and ask if I should make videos on Pokemon Go! or The Last of Us…
Hey, an Australian.
That fidget spinner 'trend' died hard. Good work riding that when it was a thing, you know your stuff MattPat. Third time watching this one! Supporting you any way I can!
I still remember how I came here from film theory through the snow White theory because I was always really into science and Disney and food
Thanks GameTheory! This is THE VIDEO I'VE BEEN LOOKING 3 YEARS FOR!!
:D
aww, now I feel bad for skipping some of your vids, I forgot how good this channel is, soz.
Keyword: was
*correction keyword: is
Is anybody else annoyed at the ending?
Just me, ok😢
Well, I may not be good at a lot of things, but in trends...
*I AM NUMBER ONE*
dude y
Lol
lol
Here is a Little lesson in trickery
MatPat make ''Something MatPat wants to talk about'' theory already.
Also I'll type ''looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool''
Now TH-cam thinks this video is super funny
Some theorist wisdom right here.
What?
Korpy Boo nvm
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I love how some TH-camrs make videos on how to get popular but say not to make videos one after the other
Music producers can't make long enough songs to get on the recommended page. I can normally only make a three minute song every now and then.
Yeah, musicians and animators tend to have issues in this sort of setup. Especially musicians who, based on the general rules of how music works, don't feel like they should be making music longer than 2-4 minutes since most successful songs tend to fall into that range.
If you're looking for a way around that, maybe produce some super long songs that are meant to be listened to as background music (like 40 minutes of focusing music or that sort of thing). Maybe even string a bunch of songs together every once in a while when you've made a bunch to give your viewers a *music binge session*!
I guess most would just call that an album... but *no it's a music binge session!*
This is a huge problem with animators too.
It's incredible how much I love this kind of videos regarding TH-cam algorithm and how much they've helped me gain views. Thanks Matt!
13:05 ANYONE NOTICE LIFE NOGGIN??? I FRIGGIN LOVE THAT GUY!
Love you too MatPat just bought a backpack, shirt, and spinner.
Lol I noticed too
same bud!
OddArtist Animations he is a smart thing
OddArtist Animations which shirt
OddArtist Animations life noggin sucks, watch kurzgesagt
So the Google brain is basically paid to figure out how to harness the power of the meme and become the dankest of meme lords.
No the Google brain is paid to make something they don't have to pay to figure out how to harness unlimited power. That's how capitalism in the information age works. Robots do better work than humans.
Nathan Goedeke and one day the super ai will take over the world by playing dank memes all around world
Nathan Goedeke it's the power of the DANK side
NOT THE DANK SIDE
Wow, this really put into perspective the level of Google's power of collecting and using information.
Just imagine what TH-cam's algorithms will be like in just a few years.
+PokeBlock it will know everything about us, it already knows where we live - how to read - how to write - how to do math - now they're teaching it to learn... and siri knows how to speak, so... whats left besides touch and smell before its human?
I've been watching this channel and Film Theory on and off for maybe a year and a half, and I have a few things to say. Firstly, I think it's really awesome that a video like this has been made. I mean, not many channels really go into detail what TH-cam really is. I don't want to sound like a know-it-all or anything, but I sort of figured that the system that TH-cam uses for recommendations wasn't completely in the hands of the company, because I'm very aware of how fast and popular TH-cam has grown over the years. It's really great to have someone explain how it works in a way most older demographics would understand. Even as a middle school student, I found it fascinating, so thank you for that. Secondly, the way that TH-cam is evolving seems like it would be terrifying to much smaller, lesser known channels. I really hope that as the site grows, channels won't change their content to become more well-known. I know the point of this video was to help other growing channels and educate them to be smarter with the choices they make with their videos, but I hope it doesn't necessarily change their original identities. I personally enjoy smaller channels just as much as people like Markiplier and Pewdiepie (well, I don't really Pewdiepie that much, but just as an example.) I like diversity, and it's an important factor in TH-cam's growth. I just hope that channels focus on the love and care they put in each of their videos, not the likes or subscribers that they receive because them. Lastly, I don't think I'll ever do much with my TH-cam channel. I have one stupid video that has to do with Undertale, and I know most people consider it "dead." But I do think that this video is helpful for people who are trying to become more well known. Though I personally will never really do much on TH-cam, it's nice to know some channels are willing to help other channels grow and flourish. So thank you for demonstrating that.
Also, I finally subscribed after watching this video :-)
I can't be the only one who gets super hyped when the game theory or film theory theme song plays
Taranjot P
me too m8
Taranjot P so true
#hypepat
ur not
Taranjot P same here
Wait is that why mat put fidget spinner in the title to get to the recommended list?
Nah it is probably so whenever a fidget spinner comes up in a video a mind will think that it is time for "that most important thing what I wanted to see", and advertises the merchandise of the channel (a fidget spinner). Which will make you think twice as much about that fidget spinner... and maybe even buy it...
yes
And a fidget spinner in the thumbnail as well :)
;(
I think he was taking the piss out of clickbait.
Was wondering why this was suddenly suggested to me (I don't have any interest whatsoever on fidget spinners and stuff), so I checked the tags used:
"fidget spinner","youtube","trend","trends","youtube trending","clickbait","youtube algorithm","how to youtube","will it trend","fidget spinners","logan paul","rhett and link","top youtubers","neural network","google","matpat","game theory","game theory youtube","meta theory","metatheory","matpat game theory","fidget spinners game theory"
Interesting... *illuminati magic*
How do you see tags on other people's videos, though?
Hey Mat you may not read this but I am really grateful to you for ALL your very analytic and well researched information which I watch very often and I seem to really like them thank you for all your time spend teaching people. I can not express how I appreciate it.
Matpat, you've actually inspired me to love math and science, which are both 2 very hard and confusing subjects for me even though I excel at reading, I'd like to be the kind of channel that could do this later on when I'm older. I actually want to get a job in the science community, like a scientist/doctor thing. I like medical professions, but NO that doesn't mean I watch "Saving Hope" or any of those fake-medical dramas. I'm trying my best, and I hope the best for your channel in your future.( I've been watching this channel since the fnaf theory that purple guy has cameras in his child's house.)
DestinyVocaloidGamer, D'aww, what a useless comment. Yeah, right. when MatPat gets fnaf completely wrong, you all blame him instead of yourselves.
RWBYfan1234 L he loved the comment lol
RWBYfan1234 L it's actually right. MatPat is right about fnaf
I have been here for longer
boi, ive been watching since the zelda timeline theory.
*Mattpat posts the video on TH-cam
*Steph sends message to Mattpat: Why are Google Agents here?
17:37 Lemme follow this person bindly... OH WAIT NOW WE ARE FALLING OFF A CLIFF!!
LOL
To help the algorithm, change it to...
LOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLL lololololololollolllolllolooloOLOLOLLO
45% of the reason I watch you is how funny you are, 30%interested in the game, 20% getting into the the subject I don't care about like science of a hook shot, 5% is actually learning
100% best youtuber
Me: Game theory is my favorite channel
MATPAT: We're making fidget spinners!
Me: IM MOVING TO NORTH KOREA
Man, TH-cam's recommendation filtering sure is interesting.
*If only they dedicated that much to supporting and paying its creators.*
Neo Machine and not demonetizing random crap for no reason.
Hey Matpat, i love your videos, much like GVC has said, it has inspired me to look deeper into things that i generally wouldn't. Your channel has brought me and my schoolmates a lot of fun and i always look forwards to your new videos, no matter what they're about.
On behalf of game theorists everywhere, thank you Game Theory for making us smile...
This is neither a game, nor a theory, but I love it! :D
So how many unfinished two-parters do you have built up?
Morgan Aramburu probably thousands at this point
8 minutes and 28 seconds with out mentioning merch! Wow!!
That's a record!!
Even I can't go that long!
Nasha Games that's a kawaii pic, what's it from, or is it custom?
Kawaii desu desu baka baka desu
Ashton Howard do u even know what kawaii means!?
Conor Howe do u even know what baka means
Nasha Games buy my merch on red bubble
I like how the voice of the teacher is also the teacher from Kindergarden.
20:00
Oh! This is amazing the best TH-cam channel ever created I only want to watch this channel THIS CHANNEL ONLY!!!
TH-cam theory, the smartest show in gaming.
Hai Spawner wuhhhhh?? 😂😂
NatureKnight ILY calm down
your profile pick made your comment so much better.
or the smartest show in youtube
Who else still head bangs whenever they hear the Game Theory intro? I do! AND I'M NOT ASHAMED!!!!!!!!!
meeeeeee!!!!!!
no.
you are confusing "meshuggah - bleed" with "nickelback photograph"
i would be ashamed.
I prefer the old one actually.
Right? Usually I'm in my room alone, so no one sees me dance to the intro. :P
Hey... I know this might not get read but... I just wanted to say that you are a huge inspiration to me. You've helped me realize what I want to do when I get out of school. But not in the way you have for most people.
I want to be an author, but sometimes I have a hard time trying to get my whole plot to connect. Your videos have helped me learn how to hide Easter eggs and plot points in my novel.
Just wanted you to know that you've helped with not only science, but art as well. Love you!
The RTV My little sister changed my name. She's gonna get it👿 I didn't even realize she changed it, lol
funny username. and, i can't wait for a theory on one of your books!
im an animator, so making long videos that can compete around 15 minutes videos will take around 2-5 months to make, and that means i will not be making enough content to keep an audience.
so i have to keep my videos short, anyone with any tips?
Perhaps maybe balance out your animation with videos of different variety
Matpat addressed that having that diversity can actually hurt you more than help if people come just for one type of content and skip the others. TheOdd1sOut, JaidenAnimations, Domics, and Swoozie are all very successful with almost nothing but animation videos. This is likely credited to the fact that any time they DO upload, the video isn't skipped. So while they do get hurt by the lack of content over time, the TH-cam algorithm does recognize that their audience is loyal for coming back.
So as an animator, (or anyone with slow content output, really) your best friend is largely quality. Whatever will cause people to return consistently. Good luck! =)
JorShi942 hey luffy
JorShi942 For animations, try to find ways to create "fake" animations. Swoozie does a lot of this in his older work. Instead of animating a person talking, he'll draw two still images and alternate them during editing to create the illusion of an animated character talking. This obviously saves times and creates a cool aethstetic. Channels like Extra Credits and GradeAUnderA use a similar "slideshow" format to create the idea of an animated character (even though it clearly isn't). A lot of it had to do with workflow optimization and cutting corners that don't affect production quality.
How to create a youtube trend:
Video: #12 on Trending.
How to make a youtube video on trending.
1: Be MatPat.
2: Be John Oliver.
-But you can't be MatPat.
Now that you said don't put creepy notes in your mailbox, you probably will start getting many more
559Drew IKR..
559Drew That's the internet for ya.
559Drew I was looking through the comments to see if everyone forgot about that... Yeah it was super creepy
Holy crap google is the new skynet
Not really. The concept of neural networks is pretty kinda old right now... For example, a TH-cam channel "carykh" is owned by a person who knows how to use neural networks - and he already tried it out to generate baroque music(and got quite nice, copyright-free results), jazz music(which kinda ended up bad .-.), photos of celebrities, evolution simulators...
ya i actualy like that guys chanal but the difference is that youtube is EVIL!!!
Architector #4 eyyy another cary fan!
Yup.
_(But I have to admit, I can't wrap my head around what the hell TWOW is .-.)_
17:37 Such joy...
I feel like one could make a sci-fi horror movie called "The Algorithm."
Fabio Chase Please look Forward to it.
It sounds interesting
It sounds interesting
Can't wait to see it, just don't cast Shia Labeeeeuuuooouuuf
i should sleep,
pat uploads
OH CRAP DROP EVERYTHING
#WATCHINGAT11:20PM
i was watching the vid on 12:00 night...
Same XD
I have to go to school -_-
Brinley 04 ha No school for me
There is technically two matpats with film and game theory
Human Disgrace Three actually. You forgot GT Live~
Junsui Yuri actually, GT LIVE matpat is a mix of film and game theory.
Human Disgrace a
Human Disgrace illuminati confirmed
You know what is bad TH-cam keeps changing it's algothrim so much that it is almost mind blonging
You should do a theory on the psychology of those extreme fans that stalk their youtube idols. It seems like every big youtuber has to deal with creepy fans invading their personal space at some point.
If only it was just TH-camrs. Anyone with an internet personality or a celebrity (for example John Travolta) have these fans.
Heck, even female streamers with nearly no one too.
Man I have no clue how you do this but its INSANE
whoa whoa whoa.. how do we know TH-cam didn't force, pay, convince you to make this to throw us off..I'm on to you MattPatt. #squintyeyes
Is it just me who gets this awesome intro stuck in my head!?
Matpat i think you need Life theory... For theorizing real life events
LAYER THEORY! I swear, MatPat could solve any crime in real life...
Bahaki Bayu yup he could figure out that trumps gonna start _WORLD WAR 3_
Maybe he can solve the world biggest mystery's
Science... Just science...
We had that already. What was his name? Nostradamus?
Yeah my little sister watched those pregnant Elsa videos and now they are everywhere in my recommended
The green Cheese I know right my brother watch 's those all the time
The green Cheese relatable
The green Cheese PREGNANT ELSAS
same with my sis except with tdm and [shiver] cookie swirl c
lol my sister plays those games
Sooo....um.... I can't tell if I'm supposed to be freaked out, confused, both, or nothing at all. So I'm going to jump into a tree and pretend I'm a caveman.
Mo Wedd be all of it
Mo Wedd Just do what you regually do, be glad you now have more pieces of the puzzel and remember how insignificant and generalised you are.
Thought as a theorist you would love Hemingway’s writing. It’s so complex and intriguing to dig though, the ultimate literary iceberg
Everyone (gasping) we have to keep this channel alive, spam lolllllll!!! On every video
Mdoggyhood or rick
Snuffles, I mean snowball, pls don't take over humanity 😬😬😬
LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
Mdoggyhood I got happy when Collins key way there XD
lolololololololololollllllll
In the beginning when you were talking about how one of the people working at google didn't know how the algorithm works, I think you might've misunderstood him. Even if you didn't, I wouldn't be surprised if other people did misunderstand. Anyways, what he means by that isn't that he doesn't know how the neural network works, but rather he doesn't understand how the neural network makes its decisions. Below you can find a diagram of a neural network:
Input watch time
] -----------------> Hidden layer (calculations) -----------> Output binary number (represents videos)
Input genre
So a neural network has a number of inputs (for example watch time and most watched youtube video genre) and a number of outputs (for example the videos that come out in your recommended list). Now, in the diagram above the input nodes are all connected to the hidden layer (which is composed of more nodes but we don't need to worry about that now). The input data is sent to the hidden layer and that does a bunch of calculations that determines how much you can rely on data. This is done and the number is sent to the output layer and if, for example, the output is formatted as a binary number, that can then be interpreted by an outside program.
It's not that the people at google/youtube don't know how their algorithm (neural network) works. It's that this neural network outputs data based on calculations happening in the hidden layer, and those calculations are what google don't know about. They don't understand the determinant of the number that shows "reliance".
Source: class
I hope this at least helped one person. This is a topic I'm very passionate about and I would hate it if someone misunderstood what Matpat was trying to convey.
thanks for clearing that up
The Real Jezzy C no worries haha :)
is there any way to design a program that can, upon request, tell you how it makes the decisions when it's using neural networks? From what little I know about them, they seem to be a cluster of nodes interacting with other nodes. Is it possible to follow those around and from there explain what's going on? Like obviously there could be millions of nodes, and even more connections between them, but could a computer look through them and, in english, tell you how it finds videos? Or would it take greater than exponential time, and we need to wait for quantum computers fist?
This may be necessary at some point, because the less we know about how algorithms work, the less we can do to prevent algorithms from doing things we don't want. Because that's when things get the scariest...
Syogren the problem with having a computer explain in english is that neural networks determine their choices based off of the weights and the weights are determined by something called back-propagation (using calculus to get the correct answer pretty much). There isnt really a way for a computer to explain what its doing, because its just doing a lot (and when i say a lot, i mean a lot) of math. However, convolutional neural networks (another type of neural network) are more understandable since they make use of probability and classification. However, i really doubt that google/youtube's neural network is convolutional since those are normally used for image/face recognition (like facebook's automatic tagger!). Hope that cleared up some more :) (also if we want to prevent AI apocalypses from happening, all we have to do is have one function that clears a neural network and ta-dah, no more age of ultron).
MatPat's face on Link dressed as a vai from Breath of the Wild MADE MY DAY! Thank you for that! 😂
Damn! I can't belive I missed this video last year. You both (Steph, Pat) made and amazing and clear explanation of how the TH-cam algorithm works. Seems to me that TH-cam is now adopting a real market behaviour (evaluating supply and demand, frequency of a products bought [in the case of TH-cam, searched], market analysis for the aimed demographic, etc). Now my Administration degree seems to be aplicable to the internet. Thanks guys! I would definetely enjoy any other content like this.
I don't need notifications since I'm on TH-cam 24/7
That's actually pretty sad
Gavin Visco *SAME*
Gavin Visco same
its 2 am in turkey right now. : (
Gavin Visco i was expecting "i have no life"
It is summer. no school
"Better , smarter Videos?" Oh I knew this was garbage *throws fidget spinner"
Backpacks + MatPat= matpacks or BackPats. Take ur pick
Da n00bSlaya pat me on the back matt
Da n00bSlaya matpacks
i say pakmacs
Da n00bSlaya backpats because cat pat isn't matcat
Da n00bSlaya matpacks
I've watched videos on how TH-cam works before, but this is the only one I could completely understand.
Thanks Mateo
I'm so LOOOLING LA LA LA LA LOOOOLING right now.
One time I accidentally clicked on a peppa pig video and then my recommended had nothing but peppa pig videos
We've all been there
Assessi Thats why i never give my phone to my little sister, my recommendations fill up with fucked up "Playing with toys" videos.
Assessi Used to be a fan of MLP, now I can't get it out of my reccomended, it wants me to come back.
Assessi sighs been there done that
Jebediah Kerman same same
Let's all appreciate Matpat's dedication to his work, same with everyone who works with him, thank you, Matpat and friends for working so hard
I know right. MatPat works so hard to deliver us good theories each week. He and Stephanie are my favourite creators.
but he did fail that TF2 vs overwatch vid
Booty Prince I'm laughing so hard at this beautifully crafted and genuine comment made by the booty prince