As a new 120 Ret Pally just breaking into raiding this guide is a HUGE help! Thank you so much. It is nice to see a TH-cam guide with a host that has such passion and fun with a class :)
I see a lot of Pallys especially on warcraft logs have just recently switched to crusade from inquisition :) love these guides been waiting for the update.
About the talent choice, there can be more options in regards to single target, but it has to be simmed. For example my ret pala is 469 ilvl with vita and void trinkets + ineffitable truth weapon + 12% crit from all sources + 12% haste from all sources corruptions. With the following trinkets, weapon and corruptions, Righteous Verdict on row 1 + Crusade on the last row sim with 300-400 dps higher than Inquisition/Execution. Bottom line - sim yourself before making choices on the first and the last row
Yeah pretty much, this is why I say multiple times for folks to sim their stuff and always reffer them to Skeletor's website too, there are multiple variants on Ret but for begginers, I think this is a fair build to start off too. Totally agree with you tho
@@MarcelianOnline absolutely fair point! Also, another thing I can suggest for the guys playing ret out there, the sims take into account constant uptime, using of spells on cooldown and basically no movement (if you do a patchwerk sim). So for example, if inquisition+execution sentence sim +400 dps compared to improved templars verdict with crusade, always take the second. When you have 2 fewer buttons/cooldowns you will be less inclined to make mistakes, due to forgetting to use the spell immediately or having to move because of a boss mechanic. The simple rule I follow (in 95% of the cases) is that if a talent which gives me a button sims 100-200 dps more than a talent which doesn't give me a button, I take the passive/more simple one because it's easier to manage in real situations.
I find that if you're using mastery build with triple avenger's might/double light's decree/1 empyrean power, then crusade is better; but with crit build, inquisition is generally better with triple expurgation/1 avenger's might/1 light's decree/1 empyrean power. You would use blade of wrath with that build, instead of hammer of wrath though.
Agreee although you'd still had to sim for the HoW / BoW part as for me, no matter what build I ever tried or however gear swaps, HoW still does better :) That's me though, have a buddy who always rocks BoW cause it sims better for him... but hey, welcome to BFA? :)
Nice dudes! finally my video lol Wake of ashes no doubt its the only pick for that talent tier, and crusader getting the best pick adove 460 ilvl gear (still you need to go full crit if you pick it). Told ya guys!, vision of perfections was going to be the best major essence for all three paladin specs in 8.3 BTW get most Fireflash gear that you can (crit and haste ones) mastery comes in avenging might traits and versatility comes in pvp trinket synced with avenging wrath macro
Hi, long time ret player here. Small note on the Talent choices. For ST Righteous Verdict and Crusade are superior to Execution Sentence and Inquisition. The point where they get better is roughly around the 450-460 gs mark. For more information as Skeletor always says: Sim yoself! Same applies towards aoe Crusade outpaces Inquisition after ~450-460 GS. With getting gear above 460 GS Azerite, ideal Traits for ST would be 3x Avengers Might, 1x Light's Decree and 2x Expurgation. Even just 1 expurgation helps a lot on ST fights for stacking Infinite Stars corruption, same applies to Gushing Wounds. More hits equal more stacks and you dont generate a lot as a ret. Relentless Inquisitor and Heart of Darkness are ok substitutes but by far subpar. For AOE exspecially in M+ 1x Empyrian power is mandatory and from there you can pretty much pick any combination of Light's Decree and Avengers Might, either 3/2 or 2/3. Triple Lights Decree scales, by pure sims, the best but can change depending on your stat allocation. Needless to say sim your character. For stats in general i made the conclusion that you want ~30% haste and 30-35% mastery with some versatility if you cant help but you stack crit like a mad man. For AOE situations you have similar stats though you want to reach ~30% crit, ~30% haste and at that point stack mastery. For both ST or AOE i have between 6-10% versa depending on bosssetup. Small not on Ashvanes Razor Coral: Yes it is amazing in prolonged ST fights and should be used with you second pot and third wings respectively. If it takes you longer to finish certain fights in Heroic or Mythic difficulty it's usually not your DPS thats lacking. For more consisten use the Underrot Trinket is hands down the best option since it shares the 1.5min CD with your wings. Even at 465 (+15) this beauty outperforms Razor Coral by far in AOE raidfights and M+. Reason behind is, that you will need rly high DPS at certain stages and Coral is just too unreliable/hard to use in those scenarios. The Jar trinket(hc) is also inferior to Titanforged Vitashard (hc) and you want 1 activate and 1 procc trinket. Onto Corruptions: You nailed that one except one small thing. Inefferable Truth is shit. Since you run Vision of Perfection and should use the Underrot trinket you don't want you wings cd to be lowered cause then you would either have to delay your wings or dont have the added trinket support. Just don't! Also Opener (with Crusade and Righteous Verdict): Judgement => Blade of Justice => Crusade => Templar's Verdict => Wake of Ashes => Templar's Verdict => Hammer of Wrath => Templar's Verdict This leaves you at 0 holy power and 10 stacks for Crusade. After that use => Judgement (1HP) => Blade of Justice => Hammer of Wrath => Crusader Strike (5HP)=> Templar's Verdict After that you usually keep everything on cooldown while not overcapping 5 holy power and finishing with Templar's Verdict or Divine Storm in AOE cases. For AOE just swap Templar's Verdict above to Divine Storm! Also Prepot 1 sec befor pull since you use Potion of focused Resolve for ST fights, if thats not enough time train your raid to properly pull. All in all you made an OK attempt at showing Ret Paladin, or at least how you used to play during the Eternal Palace Raid and most of it is outdated in the current content. Skeletor himself is amazing and i love reading his ideas, sims and guidelines to make my gameplay better and smoother. For more answers about is gear x, y or z better you have to sim you charater using raidbots or askmrrobot or any other platform that you trust and is out there. If you wanna check me out and see that im not sprouting crap hit me up, my main is Twinfire-Nethersturm. You can see my performances on warcraftlogs etc. Would be nice to see an updated version of this.
@@unsc0212able as long as you have the proper traits everything should work out, with recent Sims on my char the difference for rv vs es is +150 dps in favor of rv. So not worth the extra hassle
Been stuck on what talents to pick etc for a while now as Im not really a great player but didn't want to hold the dungeon/raid group back from lack of trying. Still trying to figure out what the best Mythic+ dungeons are for ret pal gear tho but i'll get there :) Great guide, thank-you! :)
Bring back: Empowered seals Insta (baseline) Repentance Old Word of Glory Emancipate Seal of Command Long arm of the law Hammer baseline (pretty sure this will be a thing)
Hey Marc, I'm now taking Crusade and I wonder what should I pick as Major essence? I think a VoP proc of Crusade will not be as good as a wings proc, so should I take Lucid Dreams instead? Or else?
VOP Major, Breath/Conflict and Strife/Lucid dreams minor. Can't rly go wrong with those and VOP proccs during your already used crusade elongating it! Had a few instances where i had ~1minute and more wings uptime.
Hello Sir, i'm still looking to get some BiS in pre raid to help my friend but it's impossible to find a guide on internet... Is that possible for you to tell me wich items i need to loot ? Thank's a lot for your answer !
Lucid Dreams minor is seeing alot of use with Crusade at higher gear levels. And as for corruptions; Gushing Wound and Expedient are really good as well, and far more reliable. The damage of GW might look low, but for only 15 corruption it is worth on any 460+ item. Ret is great fun this patch, and the haste/crit works with Holy as well, so dual-speccing is nice and easy! Prot would prefer vers or mastery over crit though :S
Wurup Lvladen! Happy to still see you around bro and thank you for the kind words. Had to switch it up to more pve focused content, only way the channel could grow. What have you been up to these last years? :)
@@MarcelianOnline I finished college last summer and just this past january have decided to start casual TH-cam again! Ill be sure to check you guys out for all my PvE needs, you have very high quality videos :) but mainly focused on hunter and ret PvP content now!
Can a pally help me out? I like the pally, I'm have currently a 118 but I have pretty often downtime where I'm waiting for a abilify that gives me holy power. Will it get better when I'm max and have better gear?
Tom Lamb hammer is for bursting enemies to death once they are low. Blade is for random bursts and generally more sustained damage once all your cds are up. I prefer blade because I run a high Crit build and a random massive burst is usually a death sentence for enemies anyways.
Sensei Pally Marcelian- awesome guide you’ve got there . need advise , how do i climb my ivl/gear - currently at 448, it’s so hard to get games be it on arena or mythic + . for Arena , what are my best healer comp? and for Mythic or raids , how do i get into some games. thanks in advance sensei
So what stat do I prioritize? I read haste is the most import due to faster cast and cooldown and hence more proc? What about vert? Any input or help will be helpful.
@@MarcelianOnline reached 100 just now, 4 more days till buff ends, this one is gonna be played after it does for sure. Pretty fun to play like you showed, though you you can still can call me noob whenever we might might meet ingame :))
At this point in the game, go for as much Mastery as you can and Haste after. 3xLights Decree traits and 3xAvenger's Might traits for raiding, same thing for M+ but just replace one of the Lights Decree with Empyrean Power. Masterful corruptions as much as you can also and maybe a Honed mined. Have to remember this vid was researched 6 months ago and things have changed for the better in many cases. Hope this helped
Geti'kku is the best option single target hands down and even more so now, since you can buy a TD and add it to your Geti'kku and solve the AOE part as well. So go for it :)
Hey Tony! We use the Pepsi damage font with the addon called AnyFont. We have a video on all of our UI here --> th-cam.com/video/FB8l8MZAlOY/w-d-xo.html
@@MarcelianOnline thanks! one question is how to configure it more deeply? did everything as in the video, but with a large number of enemies, nameplates begin to twitch and it’s not possible to get into them. they move smoothly and evenly and do not mix, do not close each other
Hey, i am brazilian and i have one question for u. What do u prefer: 1- 28% critic 26% haste 34% maestry OR 2- 21% critic 32% haste 40% maestry Whats do u prefer? 1 or 2? I hope you can help me Thanks!!!
The game doesn't work that way anymore friend, that's why we keep saying to sim. If you are curious to know the most dmg you can do, either play with both builds, or go to raidbots.com and sim them see which does more damage
Pretty outdated since u can choose corruptions or not? Im maining ret for a long time and rn everyone is stacking haste mastery for every scenario with masterful. Expurgation not that good anymore, stack avengers might/decree instead. If u wanna go for expurgation singletarget then u can also go for some severe but not recommended...
Ret never had an "optimal" stat priority since Legion. All top Rets and ret theorycrafters point this in all their guides etc. Best way to find out if vers is working for you is to sim, I know it sucks but it's just how BFA works :/ For me Haste is number one for example. For a friend of mine it's Crit that's siming the best (because he has 3x Expurgation traits)
Great guide. Made me roll a pally. Will it still be viable in shadow lands and how do you get to see those big dmg numbers? They don't show up on screen/target 😁
is retri still relevant at this point? ive just come back after a whopping 8 months break. switched to dh before that because i was fed up with BFA retri
Every class can pump in the right hands. This guide is a bit out of date, but I doubt they will make another guide so close to shadowlands. Kind of a weird place for guide content creators
blizz needs to implement siming in there own game and not having a 3rd party website do it for them if they cant do it than dont add things to your game u cant handle
I get that this was made a couple months ago but mastery has simmed higher for single target and AoE since before it was made. Advice on essences neglected that Lucid Dreams.
I’m 470, rank 3 vision, rank 3 TD.. 3 lights, 1 avengers might and 2 empyreans. But my dung average is 42.9k dps. Idk what I’m doing wrong and it’s embarrassing
could you also make a another talent build wich need less button it kinda anyoing with the chooses you make so many more buttons is anyoing could you also make a talent tree with less push buttons not every one likes to have to jam 100000 buttons great vid tough
I dont speak english, and this is the no.1 useful video for me bcs u take BIG ICONS if you show combos! THANKS
HA! that's the BIGGEST reason why we do that :P
As a new 120 Ret Pally just breaking into raiding this guide is a HUGE help! Thank you so much. It is nice to see a TH-cam guide with a host that has such passion and fun with a class :)
Playing Ret is glorious!
Damn it! That word was the one I was looking for to put on the thumbnail!!!!
Marcelian, for me you are the best at making paladin guides! You were the reason I started playing and continued to BfA! :))
Wow, thanks! Hopefully Flame can fill the shoes :D
I started play WoW for the first time about 2 months ago, first made a night elf frost mage but decided to switch to this class and I'm SOO glad I did
I'm a returning ret player so thank you for this video. Much appreciated.
Glad it helped
12:05 I love how committed he is to pronouncing skuul vaz lmfao 😂💀💀
I see a lot of Pallys especially on warcraft logs have just recently switched to crusade from inquisition :) love these guides been waiting for the update.
I remember in Legion Crusade was nerfed almost every patch
About the talent choice, there can be more options in regards to single target, but it has to be simmed. For example my ret pala is 469 ilvl with vita and void trinkets + ineffitable truth weapon + 12% crit from all sources + 12% haste from all sources corruptions. With the following trinkets, weapon and corruptions, Righteous Verdict on row 1 + Crusade on the last row sim with 300-400 dps higher than Inquisition/Execution.
Bottom line - sim yourself before making choices on the first and the last row
Yeah pretty much, this is why I say multiple times for folks to sim their stuff and always reffer them to Skeletor's website too, there are multiple variants on Ret but for begginers, I think this is a fair build to start off too. Totally agree with you tho
@@MarcelianOnline absolutely fair point! Also, another thing I can suggest for the guys playing ret out there, the sims take into account constant uptime, using of spells on cooldown and basically no movement (if you do a patchwerk sim). So for example, if inquisition+execution sentence sim +400 dps compared to improved templars verdict with crusade, always take the second. When you have 2 fewer buttons/cooldowns you will be less inclined to make mistakes, due to forgetting to use the spell immediately or having to move because of a boss mechanic. The simple rule I follow (in 95% of the cases) is that if a talent which gives me a button sims 100-200 dps more than a talent which doesn't give me a button, I take the passive/more simple one because it's easier to manage in real situations.
Appreciate the input homie
I find that if you're using mastery build with triple avenger's might/double light's decree/1 empyrean power, then crusade is better; but with crit build, inquisition is generally better with triple expurgation/1 avenger's might/1 light's decree/1 empyrean power. You would use blade of wrath with that build, instead of hammer of wrath though.
Agreee although you'd still had to sim for the HoW / BoW part as for me, no matter what build I ever tried or however gear swaps, HoW still does better :) That's me though, have a buddy who always rocks BoW cause it sims better for him... but hey, welcome to BFA? :)
2:53 Consecration sims ahead but that assumes perfect usage and the tank not moving out of it. Wake of Ashes is number one and best.
ye :)
Decided to boost an old pally I had leveled in Warlords of Draenor. This guide helped me get caught up on ret pally! Thanks :D
Right on man!
Nice dudes! finally my video lol
Wake of ashes no doubt its the only pick for that talent tier, and crusader getting the best pick adove 460 ilvl gear (still you need to go full crit if you pick it).
Told ya guys!, vision of perfections was going to be the best major essence for all three paladin specs in 8.3
BTW get most Fireflash gear that you can (crit and haste ones) mastery comes in avenging might traits and versatility comes in pvp trinket synced with avenging wrath macro
Fuck yea! You know all rets are working towards that gear but it's hard when all you get is ANOTHER. FUCKING. WRIST.
@@MarcelianOnline hahaha feel you bro
Bro, your videos are always so helpful! I love the way you break things down and explain your reasoning. Thank you for doing what you do so well
Glad you like them!
Is hammer of wrath rly better then blade of wrath? I picked it up once and had much more downtime
YES!!! LOLOL....I saw this pop up and whaddya know.....I BE HERE!! 🖤🖤🖤🖤😘
Enjoy!
Hi, long time ret player here.
Small note on the Talent choices.
For ST Righteous Verdict and Crusade are superior to Execution Sentence and Inquisition. The point where they get better is roughly around the 450-460 gs mark. For more information as Skeletor always says: Sim yoself!
Same applies towards aoe Crusade outpaces Inquisition after ~450-460 GS.
With getting gear above 460 GS Azerite, ideal Traits for ST would be 3x Avengers Might, 1x Light's Decree and 2x Expurgation.
Even just 1 expurgation helps a lot on ST fights for stacking Infinite Stars corruption, same applies to Gushing Wounds. More hits equal more stacks and you dont generate a lot as a ret.
Relentless Inquisitor and Heart of Darkness are ok substitutes but by far subpar.
For AOE exspecially in M+ 1x Empyrian power is mandatory and from there you can pretty much pick any combination of Light's Decree and Avengers Might, either 3/2 or 2/3.
Triple Lights Decree scales, by pure sims, the best but can change depending on your stat allocation. Needless to say sim your character.
For stats in general i made the conclusion that you want ~30% haste and 30-35% mastery with some versatility if you cant help but you stack crit like a mad man.
For AOE situations you have similar stats though you want to reach ~30% crit, ~30% haste and at that point stack mastery.
For both ST or AOE i have between 6-10% versa depending on bosssetup.
Small not on Ashvanes Razor Coral: Yes it is amazing in prolonged ST fights and should be used with you second pot and third wings respectively. If it takes you longer to finish certain fights in Heroic or Mythic difficulty it's usually not your DPS thats lacking. For more consisten use the Underrot Trinket is hands down the best option since it shares the 1.5min CD with your wings. Even at 465 (+15) this beauty outperforms Razor Coral by far in AOE raidfights and M+. Reason behind is, that you will need rly high DPS at certain stages and Coral is just too unreliable/hard to use in those scenarios. The Jar trinket(hc) is also inferior to Titanforged Vitashard (hc) and you want 1 activate and 1 procc trinket.
Onto Corruptions: You nailed that one except one small thing. Inefferable Truth is shit. Since you run Vision of Perfection and should use the Underrot trinket you don't want you wings cd to be lowered cause then you would either have to delay your wings or dont have the added trinket support. Just don't!
Also Opener (with Crusade and Righteous Verdict): Judgement => Blade of Justice => Crusade => Templar's Verdict => Wake of Ashes => Templar's Verdict => Hammer of Wrath => Templar's Verdict
This leaves you at 0 holy power and 10 stacks for Crusade. After that use => Judgement (1HP) => Blade of Justice => Hammer of Wrath => Crusader Strike (5HP)=> Templar's Verdict
After that you usually keep everything on cooldown while not overcapping 5 holy power and finishing with Templar's Verdict or Divine Storm in AOE cases. For AOE just swap Templar's Verdict above to Divine Storm! Also Prepot 1 sec befor pull since you use Potion of focused Resolve for ST fights, if thats not enough time train your raid to properly pull.
All in all you made an OK attempt at showing Ret Paladin, or at least how you used to play during the Eternal Palace Raid and most of it is outdated in the current content. Skeletor himself is amazing and i love reading his ideas, sims and guidelines to make my gameplay better and smoother.
For more answers about is gear x, y or z better you have to sim you charater using raidbots or askmrrobot or any other platform that you trust and is out there.
If you wanna check me out and see that im not sprouting crap hit me up, my main is Twinfire-Nethersturm. You can see my performances on warcraftlogs etc.
Would be nice to see an updated version of this.
Im trying RV and AC like you said becausd im 459 i like it better because feels more smooth than ES and Inq which felt weird but still manageable.
@@unsc0212able as long as you have the proper traits everything should work out, with recent Sims on my char the difference for rv vs es is +150 dps in favor of rv. So not worth the extra hassle
Been stuck on what talents to pick etc for a while now as Im not really a great player but didn't want to hold the dungeon/raid group back from lack of trying.
Still trying to figure out what the best Mythic+ dungeons are for ret pal gear tho but i'll get there :)
Great guide, thank-you! :)
Nice video😉 My favorite class Ret Paladin. Light be with you 😉
Light be with you Laszlo!
Love you man, thanks for this
Nice name ;) hehe
For one moment i thought that said “busty”
Im not ashamed lol
Ain't nothing wrong with busty either :) It's the beautiful things in life we strive for/
XDDD
Yes 8.3 pally now when I'm not tanking I can know wtf to do.
Ye you know it!
14:48 prepot 45 seconds before the pull :D
What addon for interface do you use? I like the numbers and plates above enemies....
This's what's up: th-cam.com/video/FB8l8MZAlOY/w-d-xo.html&lc=UgwbSh1UWZJTHhkvlix4AaABAg
Quick question I managed to get 90% mastery, is it normal to deal 110K damage with templar veredict? keep in mind my ilvl is 439 not even with cloak
Bring back:
Empowered seals
Insta (baseline) Repentance
Old Word of Glory
Emancipate
Seal of Command
Long arm of the law
Hammer baseline (pretty sure this will be a thing)
PREACH BROTHER PREACH!
I want exorcism
Also:
Auras
Legion Divine Storm
Remove:
RETRIBUTION passive
Bring back MOP style ret! Loved that play style so much! Agreed to the list above with an addition of exorcism!
Blessing of Might
Greater blessings affect the entire raid
New to BFA and I have really enjoyed your content! Subbed and looking forward learning more from y'all!
Cheers man!
Great guide. Perfect timing as I just lit up my cigar.
Cigar + ret pally video, can't go wrong with that :D
Hey Marc, I'm now taking Crusade and I wonder what should I pick as Major essence? I think a VoP proc of Crusade will not be as good as a wings proc, so should I take Lucid Dreams instead? Or else?
In dungeons I still see VoP being used
VOP Major, Breath/Conflict and Strife/Lucid dreams minor. Can't rly go wrong with those and VOP proccs during your already used crusade elongating it! Had a few instances where i had ~1minute and more wings uptime.
Hello Sir, i'm still looking to get some BiS in pre raid to help my friend but it's impossible to find a guide on internet... Is that possible for you to tell me wich items i need to loot ?
Thank's a lot for your answer !
Lucid Dreams minor is seeing alot of use with Crusade at higher gear levels. And as for corruptions; Gushing Wound and Expedient are really good as well, and far more reliable. The damage of GW might look low, but for only 15 corruption it is worth on any 460+ item. Ret is great fun this patch, and the haste/crit works with Holy as well, so dual-speccing is nice and easy! Prot would prefer vers or mastery over crit though :S
Holy crap your channel has grown, grats on the success and nice video!
Wurup Lvladen! Happy to still see you around bro and thank you for the kind words. Had to switch it up to more pve focused content, only way the channel could grow. What have you been up to these last years? :)
@@MarcelianOnline I finished college last summer and just this past january have decided to start casual TH-cam again! Ill be sure to check you guys out for all my PvE needs, you have very high quality videos :) but mainly focused on hunter and ret PvP content now!
Can a pally help me out? I like the pally, I'm have currently a 118 but I have pretty often downtime where I'm waiting for a abilify that gives me holy power. Will it get better when I'm max and have better gear?
Downtime improves with gear, yes
14:20 "fel Hammer Discord" .....how dare you?!?!? Hahahaha
Double agent!
My only thing is blade of wraith seems so much better does the hammer really beat it?
Tom Lamb hammer is for bursting enemies to death once they are low. Blade is for random bursts and generally more sustained damage once all your cds are up. I prefer blade because I run a high Crit build and a random massive burst is usually a death sentence for enemies anyways.
Sir NotAwesome oh ok awesome I plan to build all mastery so it might work
Sensei Pally Marcelian- awesome guide you’ve got there . need advise , how do i climb my ivl/gear - currently at 448, it’s so hard to get games be it on arena or mythic + . for Arena , what are my best healer comp? and for Mythic or raids , how do i get into some games. thanks in advance sensei
Hey, what are you using as interface? Love the combat text and nameplates!!!! Could you tell which one's are you using?? Pls! XD
Check it: th-cam.com/video/FB8l8MZAlOY/w-d-xo.html&lc=UgwbSh1UWZJTHhkvlix4AaABAg
Last WoW I played was 2008 on Ret Paladin. Coming back to play with friends on yet another Ret woohoo
GOGOGO!
what happened to Potion of Focused Resolve as primary choice for single target?
Awesome vid guys! Can't wait for Shadowlands Alfa with you guys!
Same here bud :P
So what stat do I prioritize? I read haste is the most import due to faster cast and cooldown and hence more proc? What about vert? Any input or help will be helpful.
Try simming friend, it's the way of the stats in BfA, that will be your correct answer I'm afraid :(
your enthusiasm just made me create one, frigging great... another alt to look after :) Ty for video good sir
Always friend, alts is what we have left right now :))
@@MarcelianOnline reached 100 just now, 4 more days till buff ends, this one is gonna be played after it does for sure. Pretty fun to play like you showed, though you you can still can call me noob whenever we might might meet ingame :))
hi am little confused, loads people say mastery the most and haste and crit not much, what do you recommend
At this point in the game, go for as much Mastery as you can and Haste after. 3xLights Decree traits and 3xAvenger's Might traits for raiding, same thing for M+ but just replace one of the Lights Decree with Empyrean Power. Masterful corruptions as much as you can also and maybe a Honed mined. Have to remember this vid was researched 6 months ago and things have changed for the better in many cases. Hope this helped
Bro can u make an updated 8.3 prot pally tanking guide for ny'alotha?
In the works my friend
Is Geti’ikku better than Sk’shuul vaz? Reason I ask is Sk’shull vaz AOE effect is split instead of dealing 700% to every individual enemy.
Geti'kku is the best option single target hands down and even more so now, since you can buy a TD and add it to your Geti'kku and solve the AOE part as well. So go for it :)
@@MarcelianOnline I currently have a 430 Sk'shuul and a 415 Geti'kku, which would currently be better for me? Atm i'm only doing heroics
Im just here to watch funny wow content from Marcelian
HA! Enjoy my man :D
Another great vid guys and it just so happens I have a paladin at 100 waiting to go. Loving these guides ❤️
Cheers brotha'
What is the name of addon for you action bar?
Is super beautifull
This's what's up: th-cam.com/video/FB8l8MZAlOY/w-d-xo.html&lc=UgwbSh1UWZJTHhkvlix4AaABAg
Hey guys sorry if you’ve answered this before, but what add on are you using for your battle text/damage?
Thank you!
Hey Tony! We use the Pepsi damage font with the addon called AnyFont. We have a video on all of our UI here --> th-cam.com/video/FB8l8MZAlOY/w-d-xo.html
MarcelianOnline awesome thanks dudes
which ones do you use nameplates? Is there an assembly of them on the wago website?
This's what's up: th-cam.com/video/FB8l8MZAlOY/w-d-xo.html&lc=UgwbSh1UWZJTHhkvlix4AaABAg
@@MarcelianOnline thanks! one question is how to configure it more deeply? did everything as in the video, but with a large number of enemies, nameplates begin to twitch and it’s not possible to get into them. they move smoothly and evenly and do not mix, do not close each other
I was seeing in warcraftlogs that the best in the world are using crusade, I think you should see that too
I'm just wondering, since all i hear larely is that Gushing wounds is so strong, Ret palas should still go with TD or IS?
Hey, i am brazilian and i have one question for u.
What do u prefer:
1- 28% critic
26% haste
34% maestry
OR
2- 21% critic
32% haste
40% maestry
Whats do u prefer? 1 or 2?
I hope you can help me
Thanks!!!
The game doesn't work that way anymore friend, that's why we keep saying to sim. If you are curious to know the most dmg you can do, either play with both builds, or go to raidbots.com and sim them see which does more damage
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Pretty outdated since u can choose corruptions or not? Im maining ret for a long time and rn everyone is stacking haste mastery for every scenario with masterful. Expurgation not that good anymore, stack avengers might/decree instead. If u wanna go for expurgation singletarget then u can also go for some severe but not recommended...
this vid was posted in February, about a month after the patch was released, ofc its outdated in july
Asked my.guild what class they needed the most for the raid.
They replied by asking which one has the best corrupted effects?
how do you get your combat text to look so cool?
Is this one classic or the ather one ?
Hey guys! Whats the addon you guys use for the enemy nameplates?
We have em all here: th-cam.com/video/FB8l8MZAlOY/w-d-xo.html&lc=UgwbSh1UWZJTHhkvlix4AaABAg
You dont want to stack 3 expurgations any more its 3 lights decree and 3 Avengers might which is possible with Nyalotha gear and Tank Buster shoulders
Love the videos, is possible you could do one for a BM Hunter.
Working on it :P
It's been a month playing ret pal Vers is not an optimal option?
(explain please?)
Ret never had an "optimal" stat priority since Legion. All top Rets and ret theorycrafters point this in all their guides etc. Best way to find out if vers is working for you is to sim, I know it sucks but it's just how BFA works :/ For me Haste is number one for example. For a friend of mine it's Crit that's siming the best (because he has 3x Expurgation traits)
Very awesome guide. I just wish there was a more concrete stat priority.
Sadly, there is no concrete stat priority especially for Rets. The best one is the ones you sim :(
Why dosent judgment come before blade since it has more range and makes holy do more damage?
Great guide. Made me roll a pally. Will it still be viable in shadow lands and how do you get to see those big dmg numbers? They don't show up on screen/target 😁
Viability aside: th-cam.com/video/FB8l8MZAlOY/w-d-xo.html&lc=UgwbSh1UWZJTHhkvlix4AaABAg
my tank mate can finally stand a chance as ret
Give the boi a chance
With 3 stacks of expurgation wouldnt you want Blade of Wrath?
HoW still sims better but for most but you should sim it if you are unsure.
@@MarcelianOnline damnit! The spec already has too many buttons to press for me :( Oh well, thanks for the response.
Whats the name of the Addon for the enemies name?
What addons do you use to have such a clean ui?
Check it: th-cam.com/video/FB8l8MZAlOY/w-d-xo.html
should i get geti'ikku if im not raiding that much or devastations hour
GEtiiku
I'm new to paladin and I really like the armor and tips???
Enjoy it then?
is retri still relevant at this point? ive just come back after a whopping 8 months break. switched to dh before that because i was fed up with BFA retri
Ret pumps in the right hands :)
Every class can pump in the right hands. This guide is a bit out of date, but I doubt they will make another guide so close to shadowlands. Kind of a weird place for guide content creators
Why would you ever want to use Hammer of Wrath without Crusade?
This guy sounds like Yogi Bear.. love it
Dat you Booboo?
What’s your font damage plz
Probably the Pepsi font
MarcelianOnline ty :)
Let us see a WW guide next!
On its way :P
Spicy!
What Aura you use dude?
Most of what's here: th-cam.com/video/FB8l8MZAlOY/w-d-xo.html&lc=UgwbSh1UWZJTHhkvlix4AaABAg
Is blade of wrath not viable ?
Nope :(
Or not with this build or sims :(
blizz needs to implement siming in there own game and not having a 3rd party website do it for them if they cant do it than dont add things to your game u cant handle
Skeletors website isn't updated.
Check the hammer of wrath meanwhile :D
Hey yo. Nice Guide! Can u refresh the BM Hunter Guide pleeeease? Peace and love!
Speaking of Ret Pally :P
Thank You Guys~! Some Love!
Bout time right? :)
@@MarcelianOnline Thank You Guys! Greeting from Mexico!
anybody knows what weakaura does he use for nameplates? lemme know please :)
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What your interface addon
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I get that this was made a couple months ago but mastery has simmed higher for single target and AoE since before it was made. Advice on essences neglected that Lucid Dreams.
Wings for days! Please do bm hunter next
On its way :)
Are you guys Romanian? Your accent sounds familiar.
We are :)
Can you do frost DK guide pleaseee
That is actually very very close!
I got all excited and thought Robert De Niro was doing this video
Godfather De Niro or Meet the Parents De Niro?
Considering giving ret a go but mostly raid so dunno
I am going ret xD
I’m 470, rank 3 vision, rank 3 TD.. 3 lights, 1 avengers might and 2 empyreans. But my dung average is 42.9k dps. Idk what I’m doing wrong and it’s embarrassing
Join ours or the Ret discord my friend, plenty of people that can help you out!
Eye for an Eye in m+? What is this
Skittish weeks, hpala in your group, things like that :)
Спасибо)
Vodka
@@MarcelianOnlineну ничего умней ты написать не мог конечно)))
bro there are so many spell i need to use...I only have 2 buttons on my mouse im screwed lol
Time for an upgrade!
Last 5 weeks of weekly chest: wrist/shoes/wrist/wrist/shoes
Sounds like you are playing BFA :d
Whats is de name of you addon please bro
This's what's up: th-cam.com/video/FB8l8MZAlOY/w-d-xo.html&lc=UgwbSh1UWZJTHhkvlix4AaABAg
The end sounded like ‘you are the reason why flame is now growing some pub...facial hair’ dont hate me flame, I have a weird set of ears.
The beauty of art Vince, you can understand whatever you want from it lololol
could you also make a another talent build wich need less button it kinda anyoing with the chooses you make so many more buttons is anyoing could you also make a talent tree with less push buttons not every one likes to have to jam 100000 buttons great vid tough
i have 50% mastery lol and 20% crit and haste
Mastery best stat, what are you talking about?! Keeps you in the dps range so you can support, the whole purpose of the class.
After watching this... I now realize I done fucked up.