My wife and I have been changing over from Chess to Go, and she bought me a Go board for this past Christmas. It is your channel that I watch more than any other. You are a great instructor, keep up the videos!
@@tashikrtv6878yes he does. English chess is booooo. Personally I’ve switched to Xiangqi, or Chinese chess. Vastly superior, and unlike go or Shogi, no annoying anime/Netflix people who are pretending to be into it because of some TV show.
This is the most informative lesson I have found. Everybody else spends too much time talking about nothing and waste a lot of time. Here I learn quickly and walk away with a good set of rules that I can understand and apply in a game. Thank you very much and keep making these videos, please.
Thank you, you explain better than others because you go from basic to complex with patience and without rushing. I will watch the channel more to learn more
Started learning to play Go a few days ago, and your channel is the only source that I can understand the reasons behind placing (or not placing) any stones. Stephanie is just amazing in making things simple to understand!
All these emergent patterns rising from such simple rules, and yet you can't really play unless you name and learn those patterns. There's probably a lesson about learning hidden there somewhere.
0:00 Intro 0:50 Definitions and why you need two eyes 3:35 Real eyes vs false eyes Basic shapes: 5:55 two-in-a-row eye (self atari, snapback) 7:50 straight three (vital point) 10:00 bent three 11:05 square four (sente, gote, more space not always better!) 14:15 pyramid 15:55 cross five / flower 17:30 bulky five / knife-handle five 18:50 rabbity six 20:48 already alive questions 21:10 bent four 22:15 straight four 22:45 rectangular six
Thank you for your channel. I've been playing chess for a while and I've only just started learning Go. You're a good teacher - you are so clear for beginners. As beautiful as chess is, the rules of Go are much more elegant and introductory theory therefore seems much more logical, despite the fact that Go is in many respects a more sophisticated game.
The hardest thing for a beginning player like me: is to thing ahead, I can not see if a group is dead or not until I play in side of it and see the result.
Thank you so much for this amazing channel!!!💕I tried to find some quality, helpful channels teaching the go game in english. I could only find a channel and it is yours. Also you are really good at teaching that i can undertsand even though i'm not fluent in english. So glad we have your channel!!😊
Very Nice lesson. Thanks. One suggestion, to help you institutionalize your institute: make a pdf with your logo on it that sums up this vital lesson. I love your teachings. Tx
Even though it is not the same thing, by analogy, the eye reminds me of the infantry formation necessary to counter cavalry in the wars of the 1700s. Thank you for the lesson.😊
AT 12:46 in the Square 4 - why is that already dead? Can black just avoid playing within that territory? What would happen if white plays first in a Square 4?
google images: basic shapes draw them on paper including vital points give them nicknames (tetris L, bunny etc) keep next to you when, playing, puzzling
I'm having a bit of trouble understanding why the square-4 (13:30) is dead. I see that if black has sente, there's no way to move without giving white the ability to take the key point of the resultant bent-3. But isn't it also true that white has no way to play that doesn't create the same ability for black? That is, white can't move inside the square without creating a bent-3 that black will then claim the key point on. What am I missing here?
White plays in the corner of that square. If black does nothing, white plays in any if the remaining points, putting black in atari. If black decides to fight back, they can capture white's stone, but this will result in self atari. White takes everything in the next move.
The reason i like Go so much is it seems to be the most balanced board game that represents warfare and military thinking. Risk is good but is unbalanced compared to this
hi stephanie. what is the origin of the 19x 19 board? why not play on a 21x21 board? this would be even more difficult & a real challenge for the best of players.
Great video and channel. At the 5 min and 37 seconds mark of the video, why is legal for white to be in the false eye? Placing a white in the false eye means white is surrounded. Thanks
Because white suround a group. Of black stones with this move. Because these stones will be captured the white stone in the false eye will live and the move is not illegal.
is it a good idea to create the two eyes in the very beginning? I started playing today against a computer. I tend to try to start creating the two eyes in the corner and attempt to keep making the eyes outward. Usually the computer out manuevers me but i tend to get almost an entire side.
love these videos but as a complete beginner, I have to ask, these huge surrounded shapes that you are showing us, do they frequently occur in a game of go? The games I have played so far have never had one colour surrounding another on that kind of scale. It's an achievement to even get a double eye.
Audio is not working. I'm up to 2 minutes into the video and there is no audio after the introduction music. Ads have audio. Lesson does not. Can you fix it, please, TH-cam tech folks? I know I'm missing a good lesson. Thanks.
I'm certainly no expert. But I don't think there's any rule against throwing stones back in. However, if the shape is what it is, I imagine it'll just be a case of history repeating itself. That said, I did notice that once the eyes are established, it's an illegal move to put your stone back in because it would be insta-dead. Which I suppose is the very purpose of eyes.
@@vellyxenya3970 It's a little complex to explain in a single youtube comment, but while in the center of the board they will always have enough eye space to make two real eyes, because the edge of the board count as "both" players for the purpose of capturing, its possible to get undercut and have your group killed. You can read more about them as Sensei's -> senseis.xmp.net/?RectangularSixInTheCorner
Dad: "You see, if you play that move, I can take your stones." Me: "Oh, I see!" Video: "You see, if you play that move, you're DEAD!!" Me: "Oh... ok..? Dad: "And in this shape, which is a square with a dot sticking out-" Video: "It's a KNIFE!!" Me: I... uh...
At marker 4:19, I'm not understanding why playing white in the left eye is illegal, but playing it in the eye on the right is ok. Can someone explain that a bit more? Not even a week into learning Go, so this is a bit confusing right now.
Because playling in the right eye will capture some black stones, creating freedoms for white. If a move looks like suicide at first but is actually capturing enemy stones it is legal by rule.
At 18:00 why can't black play at the top right corner? Are we just looking for immediate ways to create eyes and not necessarily looking for all the possible moves?
Top right corner would make the eyeshape into a pyramid four, and it'd be whites move; white simply places their stone at the vital point and kills the group. Or do you mean "why cant black go through and play on the outside"? That... COULD be possible, if that move is a "forcing" move (i.e. white has to respond to it rather than kill the inner group. But, if white doesn't have to respond to that move, you're essentially giving up your entire shape there, which would most likely win white the game. 14 points for capturing your group, plus an additional 18 points of territory, so that'd be 32 points for white. You'd have to have a move that threatens white lose more than 32 points in order to play elsewhere.
if my friend and i have little knowledge of life&death shapes. and we can't agree on the score at the end. how can we play without agreeing upon those shapes.
@@handlebargg Butterfly seven can be made into seki, but that's the only one. ( this shape -> senseis.xmp.net/diagrams/49/8f4018a8a18487905220dad99c829ae3.png ). If black plays at 1, playing it out leads to a shape where both the inner black group and the outer white group share the same two liberties; whoever plays one of them will lose. Under japanese scoring, seki counts as points for neither player.
Whys it a square? What's the point of wasting turns just to make your eyes bulkier? And I thought all you had to do was surround stones to capture them, why weren't they captured? Why did white have to play the middle to capture? Also, are eyes only a middle of the board thing? Do you need to make eyes in the corners too?
I am a semi-beginner but I will try to answer. The reason it's a square is because they cover the "cutting" points; she showed it in one of the earlier examples with two eyes, where if you're able to be "cut" from outside, the opponent will be able to put your "false" eye into an atari, and force you to fill it, leaving you with just one real eye. To answer your second question - it's a rule that you can capture a surrounded group with only 1 eye by placing a stone inside it. If the opponent has two real eyes, you can never fill both of them because the first one will always be a "suicidal" move. In other words, you can only play a suicidal move inside an eye if you already surrounded that group. Third question: eyes can be up against the wall as well. Same rules apply.
Think of the surrounded black formation as a medieval castle and the empty interestions inside as wells. As long as the castle has access to the fresh water it can withstand the siege.
Hi there. I've got confused. you taught that a square-4 is 100% dead. however, I could not follow it. Imagine black made a square-4 which is totally surrounded by white. then if white plays first inside the square, we get a bent-3 with black sente live. though you mentioned that is dead, in this case black can save it. doesn't she?
Its black Territory if white didnt play inside the box. But its 100% dead i think because White will play 2 stones adjacent to each other then black will kill it and a last snapback to kill the group
i tried with computer. very difficult for black to be alive unless white bluntly places two diagonal stones. (i am a novice, though. and still not sure under japanese rule how the players reach agreement on deciding whose territories it belongs to)
It took me a minute to figure it out, but if white plays there first then white can guarantee it dies. It takes several moves of back and forth and eventually devolves into either a straight 2 or a bent-3 on white's turn. I feel like she skipped part of the explanation. She showed that black can't change it into something safe, but she didn't show that white can kill it if white wants.
Okay, so I'm shit at chess... but to me, having never learned Go, it seems like 80% of the explanations are unnecessary, because they are just logical extensions of things that she already explained. Maybe this is because I have played around with Conway's Game of Life? Also, it's algorithmic stuff. I think having done some programming as a kid helps me out.
@@vg0o maybe part of my problem is that I understand a number of concepts in chess but I hardly ever get practice at applying them, which seems to be more difficult for me by orders of magnitude, whereas these Go concepts regarding various configurations of I shapes are mostly repeated adding of the same abstractions, which programming majors in.
At marker 6:25, you lost me. You play a black stone on the left liberty, then put a white stone on the right liberty and state that now the black group is captured. I don't understand the reasoning behind that. In fact, white was already surrounding the black group prior to that move, so why wasn't black declared captured at that point? Or for that matter, when you first started, why can't we state that the black group is already captured (even though it has two liberties). Think I'm missing a key point somewhere.
My wife and I have been changing over from Chess to Go, and she bought me a Go board for this past Christmas. It is your channel that I watch more than any other. You are a great instructor, keep up the videos!
You don't have to switch completely though.
tashikrTV And he can
@@adsoyad-ln7zb wut?
@@tashikrtv6878 @ad soyad means he can play both of them or one of them, it's his choice
@@tashikrtv6878yes he does. English chess is booooo. Personally I’ve switched to Xiangqi, or Chinese chess. Vastly superior, and unlike go or Shogi, no annoying anime/Netflix people who are pretending to be into it because of some TV show.
As a beginner, this video is priceless, thank you !
This is the most informative lesson I have found. Everybody else spends too much time talking about nothing and waste a lot of time. Here I learn quickly and walk away with a good set of rules that I can understand and apply in a game.
Thank you very much and keep making these videos, please.
gracias desde España. Tengo 10 años y me gusta aprender Go contigo. muchas gracias señorita Yin.
Thank you, you explain better than others because you go from basic to complex with patience and without rushing. I will watch the channel more to learn more
Started learning to play Go a few days ago, and your channel is the only source that I can understand the reasons behind placing (or not placing) any stones. Stephanie is just amazing in making things simple to understand!
Your ability to explain things that others can understand is excellent. I am learning from you the deep concepts of Go. Thank you
All these emergent patterns rising from such simple rules, and yet you can't really play unless you name and learn those patterns.
There's probably a lesson about learning hidden there somewhere.
true!
Why was the black stone vertically of the white stone in the dead eye not removed?
As a beginner I have to say that this is a lot to take in and it will take me time to go see it all. But it's presented very well.
Did you watch, and give yourself time to absorb, the 3 (or 4?) previous videos she made?
You are easily the best educational resource for Go on TH-cam. Thank you so much for sharing all these lessons!
Outstanding channel. I've watched a couple now and I really like the no-nonsense approach. Ca't wait to play again and use some of this!
0:00 Intro
0:50 Definitions and why you need two eyes
3:35 Real eyes vs false eyes
Basic shapes:
5:55 two-in-a-row eye (self atari, snapback)
7:50 straight three (vital point)
10:00 bent three
11:05 square four (sente, gote, more space not always better!)
14:15 pyramid
15:55 cross five / flower
17:30 bulky five / knife-handle five
18:50 rabbity six
20:48 already alive questions
21:10 bent four
22:15 straight four
22:45 rectangular six
Thank you for your channel. I've been playing chess for a while and I've only just started learning Go. You're a good teacher - you are so clear for beginners. As beautiful as chess is, the rules of Go are much more elegant and introductory theory therefore seems much more logical, despite the fact that Go is in many respects a more sophisticated game.
The hardest thing for a beginning player like me: is to thing ahead, I can not see if a group is dead or not until I play in side of it and see the result.
i'm a begginer too. i just imagine the board and play some moves on the imaginary board and the one that works i play on the real board:
My right ear feels lonely.
I thought my Bose was screwing up.lol
My right ear feels lonely too :-)
I was soo confused
h EAR... h EAR !!
music but no voice
I understand life and death and eyes 👁 alot better now
*a lot
Thank you so much for this amazing channel!!!💕I tried to find some quality, helpful channels teaching the go game in english. I could only find a channel and it is yours. Also you are really good at teaching that i can undertsand even though i'm not fluent in english. So glad we have your channel!!😊
These videos are very helpful. Thanks!
Excellent teacher, thank you!
your explanation is excellent and the pace of the video is perfect :) I'm new to Go, thank you for your help!
Very Nice lesson. Thanks. One suggestion, to help you institutionalize your institute: make a pdf with your logo on it that sums up this vital lesson.
I love your teachings. Tx
I love these tutorials. Learning a lot. Thank you!
Even though it is not the same thing, by analogy, the eye reminds me of the infantry formation necessary to counter cavalry in the wars of the 1700s. Thank you for the lesson.😊
AT 12:46 in the Square 4 - why is that already dead? Can black just avoid playing within that territory? What would happen if white plays first in a Square 4?
google images: basic shapes
draw them on paper including vital points
give them nicknames (tetris L, bunny etc)
keep next to you when, playing, puzzling
excellent teaching
Great videos. Helpful, precise and clear.
Thanks for free knowledge.
These videos are really helpful 👍
Clear and thorough. Thank you!
I'm having a bit of trouble understanding why the square-4 (13:30) is dead. I see that if black has sente, there's no way to move without giving white the ability to take the key point of the resultant bent-3. But isn't it also true that white has no way to play that doesn't create the same ability for black? That is, white can't move inside the square without creating a bent-3 that black will then claim the key point on. What am I missing here?
Agree, I'm also confused by this.
White plays in the corner of that square. If black does nothing, white plays in any if the remaining points, putting black in atari. If black decides to fight back, they can capture white's stone, but this will result in self atari. White takes everything in the next move.
Another amazing lecture. Thank you
Much needed explanation! thanks so much!
i love these videos. thanks!!
thank you ! for making these videos
great teacher. great explanation. thank you
Wow, what a great tutorial. Loved it!
The reason i like Go so much is it seems to be the most balanced board game that represents warfare and military thinking. Risk is good but is unbalanced compared to this
Love your stuff :) wanna see u play
Great tutorial. If everybody starts playing for money the level of play will go up dramatically.
Tile drops at 15:44
22:45 "Ractangular 6. It looks like a ractangular."
Love your accent in English :)
hi stephanie. what is the origin of the 19x 19 board?
why not play on a 21x21 board? this would be even more difficult & a real challenge for the best of players.
ok now i am actually learning
I don't think you need to show the symmetrical cases every time... That could shave off 5 minutes of the video easily.
Thank you so much
Great video and channel. At the 5 min and 37 seconds mark of the video, why is legal for white to be in the false eye? Placing a white in the false eye means white is surrounded. Thanks
Because white suround a group. Of black stones with this move. Because these stones will be captured the white stone in the false eye will live and the move is not illegal.
is it a good idea to create the two eyes in the very beginning? I started playing today against a computer. I tend to try to start creating the two eyes in the corner and attempt to keep making the eyes outward. Usually the computer out manuevers me but i tend to get almost an entire side.
Usually you don't create two eyes in the beginning because it's important to make big moves in the beginning to establish your influence on the board.
Ty
love these videos but as a complete beginner, I have to ask, these huge surrounded shapes that you are showing us, do they frequently occur in a game of go? The games I have played so far have never had one colour surrounding another on that kind of scale. It's an achievement to even get a double eye.
Great video!
Learning a lot!
Great content
Wonderful!
Very helpful video!
Anyone know where I can play against people? I only have the computer on my phone to play against.
what is the role of the 9 thick points on 4, 10, 16 colums??
Audio is not working. I'm up to 2 minutes into the video and there is no audio after the introduction music. Ads have audio. Lesson does not. Can you fix it, please, TH-cam tech folks? I know I'm missing a good lesson. Thanks.
18:43 Stephanie said,"pokey five"
Do you take the stones from the board ? And if you take them from it , can you use that space again if it is need it ? Can someone tell me please?
I'm certainly no expert. But I don't think there's any rule against throwing stones back in. However, if the shape is what it is, I imagine it'll just be a case of history repeating itself. That said, I did notice that once the eyes are established, it's an illegal move to put your stone back in because it would be insta-dead. Which I suppose is the very purpose of eyes.
Some of the shapes that are alive on the center of the board (bent four, rectangular six) only live in sente if they're in the corner, so watch out.
Why is that? I would love to learn :)
@@vellyxenya3970 It's a little complex to explain in a single youtube comment, but while in the center of the board they will always have enough eye space to make two real eyes, because the edge of the board count as "both" players for the purpose of capturing, its possible to get undercut and have your group killed. You can read more about them as Sensei's -> senseis.xmp.net/?RectangularSixInTheCorner
Dad: "You see, if you play that move, I can take your stones."
Me: "Oh, I see!"
Video: "You see, if you play that move, you're DEAD!!"
Me: "Oh... ok..?
Dad: "And in this shape, which is a square with a dot sticking out-"
Video: "It's a KNIFE!!"
Me: I... uh...
I realized after watching this tutorial that I need to stick with checkers
that's rude.... try to understand
Nice!
At marker 4:19, I'm not understanding why playing white in the left eye is illegal, but playing it in the eye on the right is ok. Can someone explain that a bit more? Not even a week into learning Go, so this is a bit confusing right now.
Because playling in the right eye will capture some black stones, creating freedoms for white. If a move looks like suicide at first but is actually capturing enemy stones it is legal by rule.
I like Stephanie. She is really pretty.
Yes she is
Is it better to leave them die to waste your opponent move to capture? It also reduce the territory your opponent have right?
At 18:00 why can't black play at the top right corner? Are we just looking for immediate ways to create eyes and not necessarily looking for all the possible moves?
Top right corner would make the eyeshape into a pyramid four, and it'd be whites move; white simply places their stone at the vital point and kills the group. Or do you mean "why cant black go through and play on the outside"? That... COULD be possible, if that move is a "forcing" move (i.e. white has to respond to it rather than kill the inner group. But, if white doesn't have to respond to that move, you're essentially giving up your entire shape there, which would most likely win white the game. 14 points for capturing your group, plus an additional 18 points of territory, so that'd be 32 points for white. You'd have to have a move that threatens white lose more than 32 points in order to play elsewhere.
I thought I had this until she got to the knife handle 5, then I realised I'll never remember all this
where do i buy those bowls and stones?
if my friend and i have little knowledge of life&death shapes. and we can't agree on the score at the end. how can we play without agreeing upon those shapes.
She's so cute I'm in love😍💗
By the way,she is using Japanese rules. Chinese rules is after a round is done,you need to take away the dead stone and count the territory AND stones
I’m in love 😍
Be careful ! When it's in the corner, the rectangle 6 is a sente live gote die !
12:46 What if black avoids placing a stone inside their own group until there's only 1 space left?
Then it will die because there will be a bent three and your opponent can take the vital point.
Rabbit 6 looks more like a cute minimalist squid imo
What if having more than 6 points inside, that would be awesome if someone can give the answer for this general pattern.
If you have 7 or more life cells inside, doesn't matter what shape they are, they are Alive
@@handlebargg Butterfly seven can be made into seki, but that's the only one. ( this shape -> senseis.xmp.net/diagrams/49/8f4018a8a18487905220dad99c829ae3.png ). If black plays at 1, playing it out leads to a shape where both the inner black group and the outer white group share the same two liberties; whoever plays one of them will lose. Under japanese scoring, seki counts as points for neither player.
I'm not sure if you're saying "a legal" or "illegal"
And here we have the dog lying on the couch. You’re dead no matter which way you move.
I solved all the puzzles till the one at 16:03, now I'm feeling tired haha
what if i have one good eye, one patched-up eye and a hook?
Whys it a square? What's the point of wasting turns just to make your eyes bulkier?
And I thought all you had to do was surround stones to capture them, why weren't they captured? Why did white have to play the middle to capture?
Also, are eyes only a middle of the board thing? Do you need to make eyes in the corners too?
I am a semi-beginner but I will try to answer.
The reason it's a square is because they cover the "cutting" points; she showed it in one of the earlier examples with two eyes, where if you're able to be "cut" from outside, the opponent will be able to put your "false" eye into an atari, and force you to fill it, leaving you with just one real eye.
To answer your second question - it's a rule that you can capture a surrounded group with only 1 eye by placing a stone inside it. If the opponent has two real eyes, you can never fill both of them because the first one will always be a "suicidal" move. In other words, you can only play a suicidal move inside an eye if you already surrounded that group.
Third question: eyes can be up against the wall as well. Same rules apply.
Think of the surrounded black formation as a medieval castle and the empty interestions inside as wells. As long as the castle has access to the fresh water it can withstand the siege.
After hitting a deer with my car -honey is it dead or alive 😂
Hi there. I've got confused. you taught that a square-4 is 100% dead. however, I could not follow it. Imagine black made a square-4 which is totally surrounded by white. then if white plays first inside the square, we get a bent-3 with black sente live. though you mentioned that is dead, in this case black can save it. doesn't she?
It's dead because white would never play inside the square.
Its black Territory if white didnt play inside the box. But its 100% dead i think because White will play 2 stones adjacent to each other then black will kill it and a last snapback to kill the group
i tried with computer. very difficult for black to be alive unless white bluntly places two diagonal stones. (i am a novice, though. and still not sure under japanese rule how the players reach agreement on deciding whose territories it belongs to)
It took me a minute to figure it out, but if white plays there first then white can guarantee it dies. It takes several moves of back and forth and eventually devolves into either a straight 2 or a bent-3 on white's turn.
I feel like she skipped part of the explanation. She showed that black can't change it into something safe, but she didn't show that white can kill it if white wants.
I love this girl she is so gorgeous
Okay, so I'm shit at chess... but to me, having never learned Go, it seems like 80% of the explanations are unnecessary, because they are just logical extensions of things that she already explained. Maybe this is because I have played around with Conway's Game of Life? Also, it's algorithmic stuff. I think having done some programming as a kid helps me out.
opposite to me...
@@vg0o maybe part of my problem is that I understand a number of concepts in chess but I hardly ever get practice at applying them, which seems to be more difficult for me by orders of magnitude, whereas these Go concepts regarding various configurations of I shapes are mostly repeated adding of the same abstractions, which programming majors in.
@@vg0o you'll get it... Just play and start to get a feeling for it!
She looks like the singer Jfla.
man my right ear is lonely
She's so gorgeous and smart. A wolf with two real eyes.
At marker 6:25, you lost me. You play a black stone on the left liberty, then put a white stone on the right liberty and state that now the black group is captured. I don't understand the reasoning behind that. In fact, white was already surrounding the black group prior to that move, so why wasn't black declared captured at that point? Or for that matter, when you first started, why can't we state that the black group is already captured (even though it has two liberties). Think I'm missing a key point somewhere.
:)
Lady is no doubt a good player but I can’t follow her explanations
Ayo she bad
I think I'm completely in love with you.
For me, “intersection” might be an overrated word. White?
What would you call it instead of an intersection (which is what it is)
Omae wa mou shindeiru.
NANI
thanks, you have a great mind, good explanation, nice eyes, beautiful face, including good body 😍
Inappropriate.
Useless .