Just bought the black paint/brass version to match my M4. Very pleased with it. Its been over 20years since I bought a Voitlander and they`ve certainly improved the build quality. My copy is very smooth .
This is the review i'm serching for. A wedding photographer using this lens. I'm very happy with my voigt lenses converted to my Nikon Z6 (50mm 1.2, 35mm 1.4, 28mm f2 v1) but I really want to change my 35mm 1.4 for the softness that it have. For personal photos is OK but for weddings I need something sharper. Thanks so much for the review!!
Great review Andrew. I do love my 35 Summilux FLE (V1), but I can see the value in having a smaller, "cheaper" and closer focussing option. I have the Voigtlander 28mm Ultron II and I actually prefer it vs the Leica 28mm Summicron. That close focussing distance is a real plus and what Voigtlander has been able to offer on the market at that price is very unique. BTW, we still need to record an episode of my podcast and go out and shoot in MTL together ;-) Cheers!
Great to see you back for a new video! I've bought a lot following your advice and I like your opinions. I bought the M10, then the summilux 50 asph, then the VM1.0, then went back to the asph but black chrome this time. You're good to my soul but not good for my wallet😂
Great review, thanks. I have the aluminum version (Type I) and love it. It's so light it feels like no lens is mounted at all. You might like using the LH-12 hood with it. It works on the 35 1.5 without vignetting and has a similar shape to the one you showed but is not so large.
Solid performer that can take great photos. I would really like to see you review the CV 35 1.2 v3 given your experience with the distagon and the fle.
Hi Andrew, not sure, if you will see and read this, but I'm currently thinking about selling my 35mm f2 Summicron ASPH (11673) to free some cash and get either the 35mm Ultron, this Nokton or the Thypoch 35mm 1.4. Would you replace the Summicron in my place and if yes, which of the three third party offers would you personally pick?
Hey good question! I’m also contemplating selling my Summicron asph. The nokton 1.5 would be my pick! The Thypoch is the closest thing to a FLE but the nokton asph is really fun to use and the rendering is marvelous. There are so many options out there. The Ultron is great but honestly I didn’t enjoy it as much as I’d liked to and the helicoid is just really not that enjoyable to use when compared to the nokton alternatives. I’ve missed the motion 1.5 since I reviewed it and I wouldn’t mind having one to keep, even if it means replacing the Summicron.
@ Thank you so much for your reply! I think I will follow your recommendation and check the market for used Nokton 35mm 1.5 now :) I was thinking about Thypoch might release some Summicron equivalent line in the future, but that might take a while and I guess you should be one of the first to know :) Thanks a mill again and I’m patiently waiting for your M10R video 😁
I have got Nokton 35 1.4 II (one aspherical element). Been waiting for it for years, due to version I been prone for severe focus shifts. This lens is known to be after classic Cron.
I noticed you put a review for the Ultron 28mm but have you tried the 35mm Ultron? If so, which would you end up keeping between the 35mm Nokton vs Ultron?
I personally have the 35 Nokton II Classic and overall like it a bunch. Not sure that the size of this would sway me to pick this up , but I do appreciate your thoughts and samples on it :)
Awesome review! How do the FLE and this lens compare on film? Do you think you see a big difference there? Really struggling to figure out which lens to get especially in terms of sharpness on film. Thank you!
I have it, pre-ordered it because of the size. I have the V2 and have no problem with the weight. Feels very durable, can't tell about the lighter version. I have also the distagon and will keep both but 90% the Nokton is on my M. I was shattered by the reviews and thought i might have even a very goog copy but since everyone is searching for 100% performance all the way the people are spoiled the wrong way. Yes i would like to have the FLE II but i am so happy with the Nokton and will take the Leica money for a nicer holiday trip to take fotos with my Voigtländer.
I shoot with a film Leica MP and use Voigtlander (35/1.4) as well as Leica (Summicron 35/2.0) lenses. I've never noticed any difference in quality, but a significant difference in price. But as they say: It's not a fiddle, it's a fiddler. :-D Otherwise great review👍
The 35 1.4 has a great classic look. Depends on the Summicron but the cron will definitely be optically superior. Just gotta not go looking for flaws and you’ll be happy with either
Great videos Andrew. When using no Leica lenses on Leica M body do you use lens profiles in the camera, if so which one. Eg with the 35 Distagon do you use the summilux profile?
Thank you for this! Your reviews are my favorite on TH-cam. I’ve been using the CV 35mm Ultron II; I love the form factor of the Ultron but not the feel of the focus helicoid and the somewhat nervous bokeh. I’ve been torn between this new 35/1.5 and just biting the bullet and buying a 35 Summicron. 1.5 isn’t too important to me; what I really want is a natural, pleasing rendering with smooth transitions. It seems like Voigtlander may have hit the mark. Do you have any experience with the Leica 35/2 ASPH? How does this compare?
Oddly enough I’m on a similar boat. The cron asph is tempting but the rendering of this 1.5 is really phenomenal. I’d suggest trying them at your local camera store. It’s hard to justify the cron at 3 times the price. The cron is much more uniform and sharper, it is also the same size as this 1.5, tough call!
I’ve had the 35 summicron and although it is super sharp the bokeh can sometimes seem quite busy and I really didn’t like the flare it would sometimes produce. The rendering from this lens seems really nice to me.
I’ve spent about 10 hours reading about this lens. I read all of the reviews I could find, and I think that this is the best. I have the Zeiss ZM 35mm f/2 and 35mm f/2.8 currently, and think I am just going to stick with what I have now. After buying many lenses each year for a long time, I am proud to say I haven’t bought any new gear since early 2020 and have even sold off a few cameras and lenses.
Useful information! I value your thoughts on this f/1.5 Nokton, as I consider adding a smaller yet “fast” 35mm lens, for the times I would rather be a bit more discreet, probably covering that shiny “nose” with a step-up ring, rather than using a hood. I’ll not be trading-away a Zeiss Distagon 35mm f/1.4 ZM, however, as there are many times I value every bit of its sharpness and contrast.
Hey man. How would you compare this with 40mm f2 summicron c? I’m torn between that and this lens for my first lens for my sl typ 901. Hope you can give me your thoughts. Thank you!
I recently picked up a Nikon W.Nikkor.C 35 mm f/3.5 LTM lens (with a LTM to M mount adapter). It’s tiny (about that of the Leica M 28 mm f/5.6) and surprisingly sharp (but not as sharp as the Leica Summilux-M 35 FLE I). Although the lens is free of fungus and haze, the contrast at f/3.5 to f/5.6 is significantly less that that of the FLE. Perhaps the coatings are a bit worn.
Thanks! The 1.5 is more pleasing to my eye, I do appreciate the overall feel to the images, including the colors and correctness wide open. -Speaking from experience with the 40 Nokton 1.4 which is very similar- I adore the 1.4, though it can be a bit too busy wide open. I like it a lot on film, but I find it too 2 dimensional on digital at times. Stopped down it’s great but that’s not what we’re buying these for.
Another nice review Andrew. I am wondering between this and the 40mm f2.8 heliar asph. Which do you think has more 3D pop, bokeh and sharpness. I appreciate any insight. Thank you and great work.
Thanks for your comment Mark! They’re both excellent lenses, the 1.5 is definitely more versatile at the expense of being slightly larger. They both are capable of producing good 3D images, I’d give a nod to the Nokton based on the depth of field alone. At f2 it’s very sharp and creates lovely subject separation. The heliar has a tighter crop for more compression and isolation. The 35 will be sharper at 2.8, being stopped down two stops helps. From f4 onwards I’d go with the heliar for its size and feel. I find their rendering quite similar. Tough call.
Merci! Bon video. Pour moi le choix contre la 35 f 1,5 était facile. Longer and wider than the Ultron f 2. I hate blocked viewfinders and I avoid f stops outside 4, 5,6, 8 to obtain max quality. I also think that Bokeh has taken on fad characteristics. If I need it, I would go for 50mm or up. C'est mon avis, et encore je vous remercie.
I had the Voigtlander 35/1.4 Nokton for awhile but I just got tired of it. The distortion was awful, the coma was ugly, the rendering at or near wide open got old after eventually; and I didnt love the ergonomics either, just slightly too small. This new 35/1.5 ASPH isn’t perfect but seems like a hell of a great choice for a fast 35mm lens for M mount, I can’t wait to pick one up. This one isn’t as nice as the LEICA 35 FLE but still does a good job.
someone need to make more m-mount cameras, i want to have a m-mount camera just to use nativaly(probably not a word) voigtlander lenses and i need to pay ultra premium to buy one that is newer then 10 years or more
@@GenericPhotographer the only mirrorless that compares in size is the a7c, i wish it had more compact full frame cameras, i use most mft and a 35mm its already a telephoto and the wider ones that would work better are always way bigger and just neglect the size factor 😭😭😭😭
cosina is just wasting their production ability to produce tons of different models of 35mm. why not produce a true classic? btw, you picked the black paint type 2 version, good taste.
When basing decisions upon facts , measurable qualities , I do not let my emotions over reach ; what the hell is wrong with men nowadays ? MATT of Mr Leica does reviews and he can scribe a quantitative measure in a lens's bokeh without referring to an " emotive state " . Please guys ... pull the " fashionable " ESTROGEN based ( feminine ) descriptors , and Harden with calculation , and observation , analytics per se ..... a product is not purchased over an emotion.
long time no see! as before great ,tasty , review covering all the aspects only thing is missing that close ups of the lens on and off the camera . I am also surprised that voiglander makes brass lenses . I hate weight but with Leica love brass heft in hands as you mentioned in m11 review . I did a mistake went for aluminum one then sold it taking huge loss of $ and bought brass one and also brass limited 50 summ for same reason- it feels vintage , cold and expensive . though MY shoulder hates it :) cheers @georges_angeles
This is the best of all the reviews of this lens that I've found in my recent obsessive search for review materials. Bon job!
Just bought the black paint/brass version to match my M4. Very pleased with it. Its been over 20years since I bought a Voitlander and they`ve certainly improved the build quality. My copy is very smooth .
There is a small square hood for it .Can`t remember the number .
I have the Brass version of this on my M6 and LOVE LOVE, Love it! Voigtlander has definitely stepped up their lens game. Outstanding lens.
Dope setup, enjoy!! Voigtlander is on a roll!
This is the review i'm serching for. A wedding photographer using this lens. I'm very happy with my voigt lenses converted to my Nikon Z6 (50mm 1.2, 35mm 1.4, 28mm f2 v1) but I really want to change my 35mm 1.4 for the softness that it have. For personal photos is OK but for weddings I need something sharper. Thanks so much for the review!!
Lovely review. After weeks of research this is gonna be my first lens for my leica SL im gonna buy next week. Exciting!
Glad to hear! You won’t regret your decision!
Good to hear man !@@GenericPhotographer
Good to see that you are posting videos, again! 🙂
Thanks for the review ! Can we find the raw photos of the 35mm 1.5 versus the 40mm 1.4 comparaison somewhere ? Thanks
I've been waiting for one of these! Stull trying to figure out which 35 I want to stick with.
I've heard mixed reviews for sure
@@benjhaisch yeah, there are redeeming qualities to be had. I too am on the fence, but I would gladly have this lens as my sole 35mm 😇
Great review Andrew. I do love my 35 Summilux FLE (V1), but I can see the value in having a smaller, "cheaper" and closer focussing option. I have the Voigtlander 28mm Ultron II and I actually prefer it vs the Leica 28mm Summicron. That close focussing distance is a real plus and what Voigtlander has been able to offer on the market at that price is very unique. BTW, we still need to record an episode of my podcast and go out and shoot in MTL together ;-) Cheers!
Thanks Fred! The 28 is a stellar choice, the FLE is the one to get. We definitely need to get together!
Great to see you back for a new video! I've bought a lot following your advice and I like your opinions. I bought the M10, then the summilux 50 asph, then the VM1.0, then went back to the asph but black chrome this time. You're good to my soul but not good for my wallet😂
Great review, thanks. I have the aluminum version (Type I) and love it. It's so light it feels like no lens is mounted at all. You might like using the LH-12 hood with it. It works on the 35 1.5 without vignetting and has a similar shape to the one you showed but is not so large.
Solid performer that can take great photos. I would really like to see you review the CV 35 1.2 v3 given your experience with the distagon and the fle.
Hi Andrew, not sure, if you will see and read this, but I'm currently thinking about selling my 35mm f2 Summicron ASPH (11673) to free some cash and get either the 35mm Ultron, this Nokton or the Thypoch 35mm 1.4.
Would you replace the Summicron in my place and if yes, which of the three third party offers would you personally pick?
Hey good question! I’m also contemplating selling my Summicron asph. The nokton 1.5 would be my pick! The Thypoch is the closest thing to a FLE but the nokton asph is really fun to use and the rendering is marvelous. There are so many options out there. The Ultron is great but honestly I didn’t enjoy it as much as I’d liked to and the helicoid is just really not that enjoyable to use when compared to the nokton alternatives. I’ve missed the motion 1.5 since I reviewed it and I wouldn’t mind having one to keep, even if it means replacing the Summicron.
@ Thank you so much for your reply! I think I will follow your recommendation and check the market for used Nokton 35mm 1.5 now :)
I was thinking about Thypoch might release some Summicron equivalent line in the future, but that might take a while and I guess you should be one of the first to know :)
Thanks a mill again and I’m patiently waiting for your M10R video 😁
I have got Nokton 35 1.4 II (one aspherical element). Been waiting for it for years, due to version I been prone for severe focus shifts. This lens is known to be after classic Cron.
Glad you're back :)
It's youtube season babyy
Very Gold review, thanks alot
I noticed you put a review for the Ultron 28mm but have you tried the 35mm Ultron? If so, which would you end up keeping between the 35mm Nokton vs Ultron?
I’ve used the Ultron and actually filmed an entire video on it but never got around to posting it. I’d go for the Nokton personally
I personally have the 35 Nokton II Classic and overall like it a bunch. Not sure that the size of this would sway me to pick this up , but I do appreciate your thoughts and samples on it :)
It’s a tough call if you’ve already got the Nokton 1.4. I do appreciate the improvements but I do like the classic draw of the 1.4
Same here..
Awesome review! How do the FLE and this lens compare on film? Do you think you see a big difference there? Really struggling to figure out which lens to get especially in terms of sharpness on film. Thank you!
I have it, pre-ordered it because of the size. I have the V2 and have no problem with the weight. Feels very durable, can't tell about the lighter version. I have also the distagon and will keep both but 90% the Nokton is on my M. I was shattered by the reviews and thought i might have even a very goog copy but since everyone is searching for 100% performance all the way the people are spoiled the wrong way. Yes i would like to have the FLE II but i am so happy with the Nokton and will take the Leica money for a nicer holiday trip to take fotos with my Voigtländer.
I second that. People all too often miss out on how much better you photos get if you spend all that saved Leica money on travels. :)
I shoot with a film Leica MP and use Voigtlander (35/1.4) as well as Leica (Summicron 35/2.0) lenses. I've never noticed any difference in quality, but a significant difference in price. But as they say: It's not a fiddle, it's a fiddler. :-D Otherwise great review👍
The 35 1.4 has a great classic look. Depends on the Summicron but the cron will definitely be optically superior. Just gotta not go looking for flaws and you’ll be happy with either
@@GenericPhotographer Andrew, I´m happy with both 😀 Have a nice day!
Great videos Andrew.
When using no Leica lenses on Leica M body do you use lens profiles in the camera, if so which one. Eg with the 35 Distagon do you use the summilux profile?
Thank you for this! Your reviews are my favorite on TH-cam. I’ve been using the CV 35mm Ultron II; I love the form factor of the Ultron but not the feel of the focus helicoid and the somewhat nervous bokeh. I’ve been torn between this new 35/1.5 and just biting the bullet and buying a 35 Summicron. 1.5 isn’t too important to me; what I really want is a natural, pleasing rendering with smooth transitions. It seems like Voigtlander may have hit the mark. Do you have any experience with the Leica 35/2 ASPH? How does this compare?
Oddly enough I’m on a similar boat. The cron asph is tempting but the rendering of this 1.5 is really phenomenal. I’d suggest trying them at your local camera store. It’s hard to justify the cron at 3 times the price. The cron is much more uniform and sharper, it is also the same size as this 1.5, tough call!
@@GenericPhotographer I can't help thinking that, if I went for the 1.5, I could afford a 50 lux....
I’ve had the 35 summicron and although it is super sharp the bokeh can sometimes seem quite busy and I really didn’t like the flare it would sometimes produce. The rendering from this lens seems really nice to me.
I’ve spent about 10 hours reading about this lens. I read all of the reviews I could find, and I think that this is the best.
I have the Zeiss ZM 35mm f/2 and 35mm f/2.8 currently, and think I am just going to stick with what I have now. After buying many lenses each year for a long time, I am proud to say I haven’t bought any new gear since early 2020 and have even sold off a few cameras and lenses.
As a fellow Biogon C owner, that was my reading also.
I truly enjoy your videos. Thank you.
Outstanding review!
Useful information! I value your thoughts on this f/1.5 Nokton, as I consider adding a smaller yet “fast” 35mm lens, for the times I would rather be a bit more discreet, probably covering that shiny “nose” with a step-up ring, rather than using a hood. I’ll not be trading-away a Zeiss Distagon 35mm f/1.4 ZM, however, as there are many times I value every bit of its sharpness and contrast.
great review. what do you think about this lense at an aps-c camera for example sony6600? thank you
I would definitely put this on a crop sensor, it would make so much sense
Hey man. How would you compare this with 40mm f2 summicron c? I’m torn between that and this lens for my first lens for my sl typ 901.
Hope you can give me your thoughts. Thank you!
Can we have those files to compare the lenses on Lightroom? That would be super cool.
because of you or thanks to you i bought the voigtlander 40 f/2.8 for my M3
amazing lens , great combo. 😊
Haha, glad I could help persuade you. Enjoying the lens?
I recently picked up a Nikon W.Nikkor.C 35 mm f/3.5 LTM lens (with a LTM to M mount adapter). It’s tiny (about that of the Leica M 28 mm f/5.6) and surprisingly sharp (but not as sharp as the Leica Summilux-M 35 FLE I). Although the lens is free of fungus and haze, the contrast at f/3.5 to f/5.6 is significantly less that that of the FLE. Perhaps the coatings are a bit worn.
Great review! I know they're different renderings, but I'm wondering if you prefer this or the 35mm Nokton f/1.4?
Thanks! The 1.5 is more pleasing to my eye, I do appreciate the overall feel to the images, including the colors and correctness wide open. -Speaking from experience with the 40 Nokton 1.4 which is very similar- I adore the 1.4, though it can be a bit too busy wide open. I like it a lot on film, but I find it too 2 dimensional on digital at times. Stopped down it’s great but that’s not what we’re buying these for.
Loved this lens!!!
Gotta fight me for it
Another nice review Andrew. I am wondering between this and the 40mm f2.8 heliar asph. Which do you think has more 3D pop, bokeh and sharpness. I appreciate any insight. Thank you and great work.
Thanks for your comment Mark! They’re both excellent lenses, the 1.5 is definitely more versatile at the expense of being slightly larger. They both are capable of producing good 3D images, I’d give a nod to the Nokton based on the depth of field alone. At f2 it’s very sharp and creates lovely subject separation. The heliar has a tighter crop for more compression and isolation. The 35 will be sharper at 2.8, being stopped down two stops helps. From f4 onwards I’d go with the heliar for its size and feel. I find their rendering quite similar. Tough call.
@@GenericPhotographer Wow... Sounds like a close call, I'll use the 40 more outdoors this weekend and see what I can get. Thank you
HELLO.. Excellent video.. one question.. you say that in 24 megapixels.. you achieve excellent sharpness... in 40 you don't, do you?
Can you do a video on the summaron!?
What do you code this lens to in the camera settings?
I wonder how it compared to the v2 ultron f2
Merci! Bon video. Pour moi le choix contre la 35 f 1,5 était facile. Longer and wider than the Ultron f 2. I hate blocked viewfinders and I avoid f stops outside 4, 5,6, 8 to obtain max quality. I also think that Bokeh has taken on fad characteristics. If I need it, I would go for 50mm or up. C'est mon avis, et encore je vous remercie.
I wonder how this lens would compare to the Thypoch 35mm f/1.4?
Center sharpness is similar. Otherwise the Thypoch wins in pretty much every other category.
@@GenericPhotographer Thanks 🙏 Andrew
What does FLE mean?
Floating lens element
I had the Voigtlander 35/1.4 Nokton for awhile but I just got tired of it. The distortion was awful, the coma was ugly, the rendering at or near wide open got old after eventually; and I didnt love the ergonomics either, just slightly too small.
This new 35/1.5 ASPH isn’t perfect but seems like a hell of a great choice for a fast 35mm lens for M mount, I can’t wait to pick one up. This one isn’t as nice as the LEICA 35 FLE but still does a good job.
someone need to make more m-mount cameras, i want to have a m-mount camera just to use nativaly(probably not a word) voigtlander lenses and i need to pay ultra premium to buy one that is newer then 10 years or more
Agreed! I use adapters to mirrorless but it isn’t the same
@@GenericPhotographer the only mirrorless that compares in size is the a7c, i wish it had more compact full frame cameras, i use most mft and a 35mm its already a telephoto and the wider ones that would work better are always way bigger and just neglect the size factor 😭😭😭😭
I had the Nokton 50mm f1.5 Asp for a short while but it was simply too soft and low contrast - I was so disappointed... It had to go 😞
what an "emotional lens"?
That’s the one with the anthropomorphic option.
cosina is just wasting their production ability to produce tons of different models of 35mm. why not produce a true classic? btw, you picked the black paint type 2 version, good taste.
When basing decisions upon facts , measurable qualities , I do not let my emotions over reach ; what the hell is wrong with men nowadays ? MATT of Mr Leica does reviews and he can scribe a quantitative measure in a lens's bokeh without referring to an " emotive state " . Please guys ... pull the " fashionable " ESTROGEN based ( feminine ) descriptors , and Harden with calculation , and observation , analytics per se ..... a product is not purchased over an emotion.
A lot of talk without any interesting information about the lens…😮….ciao
What is that on other leica mera on the range finder view device?
The Goggled 35mm Summaron?
long time no see! as before great ,tasty , review covering all the aspects only thing is missing that close ups of the lens on and off the camera . I am also surprised that voiglander makes brass lenses . I hate weight but with Leica love brass heft in hands as you mentioned in m11 review . I did a mistake went for aluminum one then sold it taking huge loss of $ and bought brass one and also brass limited 50 summ for same reason- it feels vintage , cold and expensive . though MY shoulder hates it :) cheers @georges_angeles