Where to start well if you want to install it wrong this is definitely the video for you. First of all VCT does not need to expand when you’re glued properly it will stay where it’s late. The trowel you used to spread the glue was for glue down carpet and you should glue the whole floor or maybe half If you’re a beginner.And filling the cracks with paintable silicone is the absolute worst you clearly did not sweep your floor well enough either from the lighting of all the debris telescoping through,nothing was done right. So your batting 1000.
Yesterday I followed these instructions and what a mess I have today. No where is it mentioned that the adhesive should sit in open air for 30 to 90 minutes to get tacky and should be nearly dry to the touch before placing tiles. I currently have wet glue oozing from the seams and will have to run my AC in cold March to try to dry out the excess moisture so it will dry.
Glad you mentioned the wait-time for the adhesive. We did our first VCT job today and we let the glue change color before laying the tile. The adhesive basically turned clear when it was ready.
from personal experience you actually want to strip the floor before you put down finish to remove the factory finish which is put on to protect the floor during shipping your finish will adhere to the floor much better that way.
So many are addressing that his video is not great to follow for many reasons but no one is addressing this is a commercial flooring option. Because of the maintenance required this is not the cheapest floor you can instal. Not only do you need to strip off the finish that it comes with from the manufacture with. But you should be stripping and reapplying finish every year. Most people don't have the time or knowledge to do these steps.
3/16" notches on the trowel are way to big for VCT adhesive you'll be waiting overnight to become tacky., use a 1/16" x 1/16" notch trowel .This guy has WAY too much adhesive on the floor.. Never start in a corner either. I have yet to see all 4 walls square in any room. If you're out just a 1/16" on the first tile, you gain or lose 1/16" on each tile and might be off 1/2" or more when you get to the end of the run of the last tile.
First he never said the entire room was square. Second why do you think he was cutting tile? I always love when people watch videos like this....which was informative..and suddenly they are experts. Doubt experts are watching for tips and tricks
@@billebobeatup5262 been installing VCT for 33years first never install in wet glue and always start from the middle, but the best part of this video is the paintable caulking in the joints
@@danyfilion6024 Just curious, if you start in the middle... won't you probably end up having to trim custom sizes on all 4 walls? Seems like extra work, or do you get a better result this way? Can you explain more about the benefits of your method? I'd like to learn from your experience thanks.
@@sonofdirt its typical for any tile installation. You put 2 center lines at 90degrees and adjust then to accommodate such factors as visible wall vs covered by furniture and border tile should be no les than half and some others like lining with other elements of the room... If you start in the corner with full tile you may end up wuth a thing strip by the time you get to another wall. You still can if you want, especially if you lay out works out.
@@Ihtiandr13 Ok awesome so basically you are dialing in your center tile position so that the tiles against the wall look their best. Great attention to detail thanks for the reply!
I should of never listened to this guy. I did what he did and now my floor is fxxxxx up! I just now had to remove all the tile because the glue kept coming up from the sides. I let it dry for 2 days and still there was glue. Lucky it was just the closet and not the whole room. I wanted to experiment with the closet first.
I wish you could come help me out I just got some of these but I am in pain and can’t but thanks for the video I’ll get it done ❤your a big help with doing this video thanks
The Mfg. says that you should wait for 30-90 minutes until the glue is barely tacky, and not wet, before laying tiles.. your glue looks wet still... any feedback on why you chose to do it that way??
That one gallon of adhesive should go about 300 square feet, the way you were spreading that on you probably ran out at about 20 square feet. i will set up in 6 months if you're lucky.And never start the first tile in a corner.........if you're off a 1/16" on the first tile and go 16 feet ,you'll be off 1 inch from the wall at the other end. ,then the tile will get worse as you go along.... Did you snap a caulk line? I didnt see it because you put too much glue down for it to dry clear so you could see a caulk line.
Lay off this guys back !! Everyone so negative yet they stayed to watch most of the video ! If you can do it better shut up and just do it or upload you video ! Nobody cares for negative comments why can’t you all just be great full this individual is helping out homeowners to do it themselves!
well, not nobody, actually. I care. A lot. I learned more from all of the so-called negative comments than I did from the video. the world doesn't get better by the continuance of bad information. I'd like to think that Mr. Happy-Grinny learned something that he will take with him on his next floor install. Just curious - if you are gonna install a floor like this, are you gonna do it like he did (to be nice, presumably) or like the vast majority of negative commenters recommend? I know which way I am!
Because when you give wrong directions on anything it costs people money by making this video he claims to know what he’s doing. That’s not good he doesn’t lol trust me
The rough is to help with adhering. I wouldn’t put the smooth side down. Maybe just rough the smooth size up with sand paper after installing if you want a gritty finish.
If your torpedo level is 1 foot, what size of vct did you use? You mention to scrape/remove high spots on concrete but what about cracks/voids? If you like to give the tile (as with the first one) a little twist, why didn't you do it to the others?
I skim coat every floor to fill holes and cracks and sculpt what imperfections i can improve to give the best smoothest floor. Its called feather finish by Henry's
Im a licensed installer of VCT. You never do just rows. I have installed cafeterias and have done a basketball court with all the line incerts. You want to drop a chalk line and start a pyramid off that row. I can do this tile in my sleep The glue you let dry for 30 to 45mins first. I should start making videos...ugh....this guy
Drying for tackiness is key. The glue is too wet. We would usually floor fans, as well. Floor needs to be smooth as glass, before gluing down. Otherwise, broken tiles or top breaks..
The shinier side is up. If you clean the glue off the trowel quickly with a rag or paper towel you can save it. Or you can use a putty knife to scrape the glue off once the glue has dried. If it’s really dirty or a cheap trowel you can throw it away. Good luck with your project 😁👍
You can soak the trowel in water over night or rinse with water right away. I chose the second. I just finished 990sqft of VCT alone it took 28hrs...Scraping is messy without scrap pieces of carpet around
No you're going to want to take a hammer and break up the asbestos tile in a smaller pieces as you can and not wear a dust mask so you can get all the particles in the air
It is 2022 and those tiles no longer cost .70c a piece, at Home Depot they are $1.29 a piece. bye bye good life of 2017, I should have appreciated you more 'sniff'
hey brandon, i just put down these same tiles. the problem is a couple of tiles are darker than the other and i want to replace them. what's the best way to replace a tile ? thanks !
Hey Michael, the best way to remove the tile is to cut straight threw the middle of the tile with a razor blade and then. Use a thin flexible scraper to pry the tile from the middle out. This way you won't mess up the tile edges on the surrounding tile. Some times if the floor is not that old you can lightly heat the tile with a heat gun to reactivate the glue under the tile and then use a thin scraper to pry around the tile edges. Also don't forget to scrape the glue off the floor the best you can or else the tile maybe higher than the rest. Good luck! Hope this helps
djonair I recommend starting at the farthest wall away from your doorway and work backwards from there. Starting in the middle of the floor, would difficult to work around the sticky glue. Good luck with your project 😁👍
djonair start in the middle with a chalk line.. and then go to the sides. Do two rows of tile at a time. Put out just enough glue for two rows and let it get tacky.
Im a 20yr installer who has worked in the commerical setting and i believe he was a helper on a job and thought he could bullshit his way thru some videos. Yikes if you follow his advice
This whole video is wrong. Please do not install tile like this. He didnt even let the adhesive dry. He started in a corner wich is the worst thing you can do If your walls are not straight. He could've snapped a chalk line and started In the doorway. If you install tile The right way you NEVER have to use silicon caulking that is just plain stupid. Even when the floor was waxed you can still see the gaps between the tiles.
I agree... Very First screen says VTC tile! Doesn't let adhesive dry to a tack before installing, skips over the importance of cleaning very well before installing,
I am not a fan of hating but please for the love of God nobody listen to this guy he will ruin your floor for many reasons including durability and looks nothing will lineup when you just start off of a wall maybe this is good enough for some shitty basement that no one is ever going to see or walk into at that point you're better off just leaving yet with no flooring
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Your enthusiasm is AWESOME!
And optimism😂
Dude, the second I saw you starting in a corner, I headed straight for the comments;-) They didn't disappoint:-)
based on reading the comments, and response from the author, this video should be removed. glad I read the comments before starting my own project
Tysm im going to do my entire flooring.
Where to start well if you want to install it wrong this is definitely the video for you. First of all VCT does not need to expand when you’re glued properly it will stay where it’s late. The trowel you used to spread the glue was for glue down carpet and you should glue the whole floor or maybe half If you’re a beginner.And filling the cracks with paintable silicone is the absolute worst you clearly did not sweep your floor well enough either from the lighting of all the debris telescoping through,nothing was done right. So your batting 1000.
Victor Dubuque - debris "telegraphing" through...
Maybe you should have watched a "how to" video before laying your tile??? This video should be labeled "How not to install VCT flooring".
Yesterday I followed these instructions and what a mess I have today. No where is it mentioned that the adhesive should sit in open air for 30 to 90 minutes to get tacky and should be nearly dry to the touch before placing tiles. I currently have wet glue oozing from the seams and will have to run my AC in cold March to try to dry out the excess moisture so it will dry.
Glad you mentioned the wait-time for the adhesive. We did our first VCT job today and we let the glue change color before laying the tile. The adhesive basically turned clear when it was ready.
Lol isn’t TH-cam great. It also said not to wax for 4 days. But I didn’t make the video.
Always read instalation instructions on your adhesive containers prior to beginning flooring
Why wouldn’t you read the adhesive instructions? Literally everything has instructions
YOU DIDNT WAIT 30 TO 90 MINUTES FOR IT TO BECOME TACKY AND CLEAR - the cement should be clear beforew putting tiles dpown
Sandra Marcoux - 100% correct...
yea. whoever did the bathroom in my condo made this mistake and now i have to do it again..
welp i just wasted a lot of time and money.. this video should be deleted
Totally wrong, glue needs to set otherwise it will ooze through the cracks and take forever to dry.
Use a heat gun to speed it up
from personal experience you actually want to strip the floor before you put down finish to remove the factory finish which is put on to protect the floor during shipping your finish will adhere to the floor much better that way.
Geez dude. You need to pop a chalk line and let the adhesive become tacky first. You didn't even read the directions....
Is this a joke? My helper knows more than he does
And waiting only 24 hours instead of 72?
Also making sure ur floor is flat and clean
So many are addressing that his video is not great to follow for many reasons but no one is addressing this is a commercial flooring option.
Because of the maintenance required this is not the cheapest floor you can instal. Not only do you need to strip off the finish that it comes with from the manufacture with. But you should be stripping and reapplying finish every year. Most people don't have the time or knowledge to do these steps.
Thank you , the floor looks great by the way
3/16" notches on the trowel are way to big for VCT adhesive you'll be waiting overnight to become tacky., use a 1/16" x 1/16" notch trowel .This guy has WAY too much adhesive on the floor.. Never start in a corner either. I have yet to see all 4 walls square in any room. If you're out just a 1/16" on the first tile, you gain or lose 1/16" on each tile and might be off 1/2" or more when you get to the end of the run of the last tile.
First he never said the entire room was square. Second why do you think he was cutting tile? I always love when people watch videos like this....which was informative..and suddenly they are experts. Doubt experts are watching for tips and tricks
@@billebobeatup5262 been installing VCT for 33years first never install in wet glue and always start from the middle, but the best part of this video is the paintable caulking in the joints
@@danyfilion6024 Just curious, if you start in the middle... won't you probably end up having to trim custom sizes on all 4 walls? Seems like extra work, or do you get a better result this way? Can you explain more about the benefits of your method? I'd like to learn from your experience thanks.
@@sonofdirt its typical for any tile installation. You put 2 center lines at 90degrees and adjust then to accommodate such factors as visible wall vs covered by furniture and border tile should be no les than half and some others like lining with other elements of the room...
If you start in the corner with full tile you may end up wuth a thing strip by the time you get to another wall. You still can if you want, especially if you lay out works out.
@@Ihtiandr13 Ok awesome so basically you are dialing in your center tile position so that the tiles against the wall look their best. Great attention to detail thanks for the reply!
I should of never listened to this guy. I did what he did and now my floor is fxxxxx up! I just now had to remove all the tile because the glue kept coming up from the sides. I let it dry for 2 days and still there was glue. Lucky it was just the closet and not the whole room. I wanted to experiment with the closet first.
I wish you could come help me out I just got some of these but I am in pain and can’t but thanks for the video I’ll get it done ❤your a big help with doing this video thanks
Great video thanks for the tips!
I need to put this over my kitchen ceramic tiles what is the best adhesive for that?
The Mfg. says that you should wait for 30-90 minutes until the glue is barely tacky, and not wet, before laying tiles.. your glue looks wet still... any feedback on why you chose to do it that way??
Just what I was looking for.
Interesting I’ve never seen vcr done like ceramic
The combination of the Video and Comments was helpful-- READ the comments, or you will end up making some costly mistakes.
Your support to let the adhesive sit for like 30 minutes before putting them down
Any wall by itself looks "straight and square." How can you be sure if you don't test two adjacent walls?
Exterior walls are the straightest. Or use the 3-4-5 ft rule
One row at a time 🫠
That one gallon of adhesive should go about 300 square feet, the way you were spreading that on you probably ran out at about 20 square feet. i will set up in 6 months if you're lucky.And never start the first tile in a corner.........if you're off a 1/16" on the first tile and go 16 feet ,you'll be off 1 inch from the wall at the other end. ,then the tile will get worse as you go along.... Did you snap a caulk line? I didnt see it because you put too much glue down for it to dry clear so you could see a caulk line.
Where do you place your first tile?
@@harbourdogNL i believe your suppose to snap a chalk line right at center of room, horizontal and vertical. then place tiles center on out
I am getting ready to lay VCT over old VCT in my kitchen. This was really helpful - thanks!
Sunshine K your floor must look horrible
Sunshine K - Hopefully you watched a different video showing the correct way to install vct and over existing vct...
Thank you!
Can you show how to put commercial LVT tile as a back splash in a kitchen
First of all you didn’t patch the floor with a cement-based patch. Secondly, you didn’t square the room out and snap a control line.
@:29 what's VTC Tile ? I thought it was VCT.
It’s $70 a box now
Lay off this guys back !! Everyone so negative yet they stayed to watch most of the video ! If you can do it better shut up and just do it or upload you video ! Nobody cares for negative comments why can’t you all just be great full this individual is helping out homeowners to do it themselves!
😁🙌
well, not nobody, actually.
I care. A lot.
I learned more from all of the so-called negative comments than I did from the video. the world doesn't get better by the continuance of bad information. I'd like to think that Mr. Happy-Grinny learned something that he will take with him on his next floor install.
Just curious - if you are gonna install a floor like this, are you gonna do it like he did (to be nice, presumably) or like the vast majority of negative commenters recommend?
I know which way I am!
Any job worth doing, is worth doing right. I give this guy props for trying but he should've done more research before uploading a video on you tube.
Because when you give wrong directions on anything it costs people money by making this video he claims to know what he’s doing. That’s not good he doesn’t lol trust me
Thanks
I was wondering if I could put the rough side up or does it have to be down
The rough is to help with adhering. I wouldn’t put the smooth side down. Maybe just rough the smooth size up with sand paper after installing if you want a gritty finish.
If your torpedo level is 1 foot, what size of vct did you use? You mention to scrape/remove high spots on concrete but what about cracks/voids? If you like to give the tile (as with the first one) a little twist, why didn't you do it to the others?
I skim coat every floor to fill holes and cracks and sculpt what imperfections i can improve to give the best smoothest floor. Its called feather finish by Henry's
Armstrong has a video that details how to install this. Better to go watch that video.
Can i install on old vynyl tiles?
Thank you I learn how to do it
Wrong, he did this incorrectly, the glue needs to set first.
Is it really needed to check if the floor is completely leveled before putting the tiles? And does the floor need to be primed first?
Rizza Capatoy no, not useless you care if the floor is level. You don’t need to prime the floor first, just make sure the floor is super clean first.
Im a licensed installer of VCT. You never do just rows. I have installed cafeterias and have done a basketball court with all the line incerts. You want to drop a chalk line and start a pyramid off that row. I can do this tile in my sleep
The glue you let dry for 30 to 45mins first. I should start making videos...ugh....this guy
where to buy those tiles but need delivered to my home
Can I used a Robert's 2057 adhesive?
You are a lifesaver. so easy to follow video
What's the cost per sqft?
Drying for tackiness is key. The glue is too wet. We would usually floor fans, as well. Floor needs to be smooth as glass, before gluing down. Otherwise, broken tiles or top breaks..
Can I use the peel self adhesive floor along with the vct?
@@OG-MalinaliNext to each other? Yeah. On top, I would rip up anything below the peel & stick. Float floor if not level.
Can you install VCT over heat tape (heated floor like Schluter mat?)
Nope
You forgot to add the word "NOT" in the title. That is NOT the way to install VCT..
Está mal instalado
I’m pretty sure this is the 1st time this dude ever installed tile….lol
You misspelled 'Drains' @6:20 mark.
How do I know which side is up or down looks the same to me and what happens to the glued trowel ? Does that become trash ?
The shinier side is up. If you clean the glue off the trowel quickly with a rag or paper towel you can save it. Or you can use a putty knife to scrape the glue off once the glue has dried. If it’s really dirty or a cheap trowel you can throw it away. Good luck with your project 😁👍
You can soak the trowel in water over night or rinse with water right away. I chose the second. I just finished 990sqft of VCT alone it took 28hrs...Scraping is messy without scrap pieces of carpet around
can I put these over asbestos tiles?
No you're going to want to take a hammer and break up the asbestos tile in a smaller pieces as you can and not wear a dust mask so you can get all the particles in the air
It is 2022 and those tiles no longer cost .70c a piece, at Home Depot they are $1.29 a piece. bye bye good life of 2017, I should have appreciated you more 'sniff'
Great video.
hey brandon, i just put down these same tiles. the problem is a couple of tiles are darker than the other and i want to replace them. what's the best way to replace a tile ? thanks !
Hey Michael, the best way to remove the tile is to cut straight threw the middle of the tile with a razor blade and then. Use a thin flexible scraper to pry the tile from the middle out. This way you won't mess up the tile edges on the surrounding tile. Some times if the floor is not that old you can lightly heat the tile with a heat gun to reactivate the glue under the tile and then use a thin scraper to pry around the tile edges. Also don't forget to scrape the glue off the floor the best you can or else the tile maybe higher than the rest.
Good luck! Hope this helps
Brandon, Do you start laying the tile up against the wall? I thought you start in the middle of the floor. Which is better?
djonair I recommend starting at the farthest wall away from your doorway and work backwards from there. Starting in the middle of the floor, would difficult to work around the sticky glue. Good luck with your project 😁👍
@@BrandonMcGee1 OK thanks :)
djonair start in the middle with a chalk line.. and then go to the sides. Do two rows of tile at a time. Put out just enough glue for two rows and let it get tacky.
Three if you have long arms lol
@@tjguttormson1500 thank you so much. :)
Brandon's videos are great! He makes it easy..
Im a 20yr installer who has worked in the commerical setting and i believe he was a helper on a job and thought he could bullshit his way thru some videos. Yikes if you follow his advice
WTH why are you laying it wet you’re supposed to let it tack up and where’s you reference lines?
lol not today slick 🫡
Fantastic video! Thanks for posting. 👍
why you need to use the heat gun
I use a torch. It softens the tile. The softer the easier to cut circles out of it or anything
@@jimramus9296 thank you
It's vct tile you said vct tile but vtc tile was shown on the screen
Lol y’all mean
VCT Tile would be so ugly in a home. I am using it for my shed floor and work bench that's about it.
TRX VLOGGER - Check this out...
www.apartmenttherapy.com/vct-tile-floor-patterns-that-look-great-anywhere-250060
Your comment shows a lack of imagination
This whole video is wrong. Please do not install tile like this. He didnt even let the adhesive dry. He started in a corner wich is the worst thing you can do If your walls are not straight. He could've snapped a chalk line and started In the doorway. If you install tile The right way you NEVER have to use silicon caulking that is just plain stupid. Even when the floor was waxed you can still see the gaps between the tiles.
I agree... Very First screen says VTC tile! Doesn't let adhesive dry to a tack before installing, skips over the importance of cleaning very well before installing,
Bad information, and don't talk to me like I'm a child please!
I know a guy, who knows a guy, that can do it for cheaper
Bad instalación
Expert my ass
Smh
Disliked!
I am not a fan of hating but please for the love of God nobody listen to this guy he will ruin your floor for many reasons including durability and looks nothing will lineup when you just start off of a wall maybe this is good enough for some shitty basement that no one is ever going to see or walk into at that point you're better off just leaving yet with no flooring
Everything about this video is so wrong.
This is all wrong
This guy know less than nothing about installing VCT…