Dark Souls 3: Cosplay Boy VS Tryhard Boys (Salt levels Rise)

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  • Invasions using a cosplay build while fighting many skilled gank squads.
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  • @Shourockow
    @Shourockow 5 ปีที่แล้ว +134

    Watched these live and man I could feel the tension just from lurking. Crazy how intense this game's invasions can get.

  • @thatguy-js7ri
    @thatguy-js7ri 3 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    Watching and seeing Chase wasnt an absolute god back then makes me feel good. He was still really good but knowing it took a lot of practice to get as good as he is in ds makes me have hope i can get gud.

    • @littlemoth4956
      @littlemoth4956 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Well it's not so much he isn't as good, but his opponents are a lot closer to his skill level. They were roll-catching, attacking at strategic times, and pressuring him.

    • @lostsoul7191
      @lostsoul7191 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Also his gear and build is trash because of the cosplay

    • @Emoralis
      @Emoralis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Did you git gud?

  • @chosen_undeadd544
    @chosen_undeadd544 3 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    9:22 i swear to god i just saw a floating cake or some shit

    • @jcdentongaming1304
      @jcdentongaming1304 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Yeah wtf

    • @youngt5024
      @youngt5024 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      what was that? wtf

    • @mayuzumiandme
      @mayuzumiandme 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It was a lighting bug

    • @RyanSavage_Banjo
      @RyanSavage_Banjo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@mayuzumiandme it had candles?

    • @mayuzumiandme
      @mayuzumiandme 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@RyanSavage_Banjo yeah it was the torch sconce bugging out i have 500 hours sunk in that game and that bug is pretty uncommon only seen it like 3 or 4 times myself

  • @Fhyrne
    @Fhyrne 5 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    This was my favorite part of the evening, its sick how you can COPE with all the attackers and how fast you think of sollutions and movement is just mind blowing.
    Keep doing this m'dude ! Im still amazed every stream.

  • @coach533
    @coach533 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    I do sometimes pity blue boys. Trying to get Darkmoon Blade is a horrible experience.

    • @Cl4udio92
      @Cl4udio92 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Not as hard as trying to get a burger tank in the middle of the Motha-Effin zombie Apocalypse, amirite?

    • @GentlemanCho_gath
      @GentlemanCho_gath 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Cl4udio92 umm…

    • @Dextructo001
      @Dextructo001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You got that right that is probably the most annoying covenant upgrade one can get, that or the wolf ring for the watchdogs covenant, both equally useless

    • @Emoralis
      @Emoralis 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Dextructo001 DMB is useless? I like to use it as a red to tease blues still trying to get it.

    • @Dextructo001
      @Dextructo001 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Emoralis you mean for the trophees and the plat? Ahahah

  • @shamelesssellout4082
    @shamelesssellout4082 5 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    that ithiril invasion was Prod levels of bad luck.

  • @harrydrake4173
    @harrydrake4173 5 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    That Gordon Ramsay cosplay tho

    • @ORBrunner
      @ORBrunner 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      FUCKIN RAWW!

  • @grimdagod718
    @grimdagod718 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    That amazing dodge at 3:25 though. He did the matrix on that fire bomb.

    • @NevesThaMenace
      @NevesThaMenace 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lmao. That shit was amazing. He was like "nah"

  • @jamezy4464
    @jamezy4464 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    These cosplay builds are pretty cool and refreshing tbh please keep them going.

  • @roanxerxes6585
    @roanxerxes6585 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    After a couple years of watching your stuff and not pvp'ing myself, I finally built a cosplay invader (farnese from berserk) and spanked my first two ganks. One with over leveled phantoms and one with a teleporting host. The feeling is phenomenal

    • @sinsicle
      @sinsicle 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is 2 years old

  • @KibaCustoms
    @KibaCustoms 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Let's all agree that You're a Wizard was the true MVP. Thanks, You're a Wizard, you will not be forgotten.

  • @justa9702
    @justa9702 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    You weren't lying the salt in the first one was a lot

  • @Joe_-tf8is
    @Joe_-tf8is 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bows to the toxic ganker, points down to the phantom that try 1vs1.
    *visibly confused*

  • @nickgrout2502
    @nickgrout2502 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    From "stun lock of death weapon" to "get backstabbed 9000" oh how things have changed

  • @gianlucatartaro1335
    @gianlucatartaro1335 ปีที่แล้ว

    A pissed-off Chase is the best content-making form of Chase 😂 Nothing makes a man feel better after getting ganked 69 times than watching these vids lmao

  • @MrBubmer
    @MrBubmer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    "There's another invader" 2s later invader's dead lmao

  • @ManiaMac1613
    @ManiaMac1613 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That guy who sent the Blue home was a dick, that poor guy just wanted a Concord.

    • @blue_caduceus592
      @blue_caduceus592 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know, right? If I'm invading and there's a blue in the world, even if it's a cancerous gank, I don't black crystal: I've been playing DS3 for nearly two years, and have never had enough patience and commitment to get Darkmoon Blade.

    • @ManiaMac1613
      @ManiaMac1613 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@blue_caduceus592 You can get it offline but grinding Silver Knights is miserable. If you're going to just send your Blues home why even bother putting it on in the first place?

  • @coryburkhart8433
    @coryburkhart8433 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Hit like a wet noodle? Is Chase a disciple of the Lenny? A true Lennonite?

    • @stefankaimberger2518
      @stefankaimberger2518 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      C Burk seems like there are no ZeroLenny supporters in the comment section xD

    • @coryburkhart8433
      @coryburkhart8433 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@stefankaimberger2518 only the chosen few can bask in the glory of of the prettiest of princesses

    • @blue_caduceus592
      @blue_caduceus592 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually doing a broken sword run in DS3: wish me luck.

    • @crimsonw1ld829
      @crimsonw1ld829 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@blue_caduceus592 You got dis bro

  • @muttgore9055
    @muttgore9055 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When chase goes try hard no one is safe I love it so much

  • @bimbim1885
    @bimbim1885 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Chase, can you try Sirris cosplay build? Well, she has a Darkmoon Blade spell for you

  • @stealtharrow26
    @stealtharrow26 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That first team definitely rehearsed their moves😂😂😂 so effing coordinated

  • @KGAnims
    @KGAnims 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Chase is slowly becoming average salty invader :D

  • @officegossip
    @officegossip 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wish I had more pvp moments like this. I need to carry around a dried finger tbh.

  • @pard2397
    @pard2397 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    good job bro, as always.
    how to be a pro in DS3 PVP - in 3 easy steps:
    1. learn spacing
    2. equip shield and straight sword
    3. run figure 8 and press r1
    The figure 8 will bait the enemy to attack, right after that you hit with running attack r1.
    edit: my only method to counter this is to predict and fish. Do the same and run the figure 8, but far away and passive. People who use this are greedy, so just take a moment and bait them with your own figure 8 tactic. they learn and think that you are trying the same, after a while you can sense their level of greed and let them run into your spear, katana or rapier.

  • @Starrfortythree
    @Starrfortythree 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have the hardest time finding pvp matches like this with my sl100, 120, 140 etc but gank city with my 330 is super active. Weird man but love it lol
    Guess I should mention I made a sl25 +1 twink and it was busy at that horrendous swamp for invasions lol. I earned the twink though having to play through solo for the hornet etc. Storm ruler is awesome at low level haha

    • @crimsonw1ld829
      @crimsonw1ld829 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sl 170 is crazy at Irythill ;)

    • @crimsonw1ld829
      @crimsonw1ld829 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Specifically pontiff's, ganks duels and everything far and between

  • @nuttyslayer420
    @nuttyslayer420 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    calls them tryhard
    proceeds to spam ring of fave
    lol

    • @tahakashen1
      @tahakashen1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      What does spaming it even do????

    • @GreasyTaterTots
      @GreasyTaterTots 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tahakashen1 replenishes stam instead of consuming when doing actions such as runnning

    • @tahakashen1
      @tahakashen1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh oky thax man!

    • @jordannewthomas3293
      @jordannewthomas3293 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Been playing this for so long yet never knew that.

  • @Sick654
    @Sick654 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sweats manage to be disappointing and annoying at the same time and that pisses me off, they're like the people who correct the word theyre

  • @imstarving7743
    @imstarving7743 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Quick tip: If ChaseTheBro invades you well......I don't know what to do after that.

  • @teeman7137
    @teeman7137 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    No waifu for us in the tumbnail this time

  • @Jagdrag0n
    @Jagdrag0n 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Me cosplaying as Raime vs three try hard spell casters happened yesterday. They are the only active invasion option at my level. Had to put down DS3 for a bit

  • @gianlucatartaro1335
    @gianlucatartaro1335 ปีที่แล้ว

    5:46 Pretty sure he sent the blue home because he saw he was about to die and didn’t want you to get the estus. This dude is really just the scummiest of hosts. Closest to hacking without actually hacking.

  • @rubenprogamerxd509
    @rubenprogamerxd509 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Seems like being the best PvPer gives you the privilege to infuse Anri's SS. How curious, eh?

  • @tekelupharsin4426
    @tekelupharsin4426 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's not a proper chasethebro fight unless chase kills all the summons and does all the work but doesn't get to land the killing blow on the host. 😆

  • @FusionBook
    @FusionBook 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Scott Steiner
    PARRY KING

  • @smithywerbenjaggermanjense8970
    @smithywerbenjaggermanjense8970 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Angry Chase is my favorite Chase

  • @heretiko2117
    @heretiko2117 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How is it that recently i keep seeing these populated pvp videos? Do you have a set level range where the majority of players stay around, or did the playerbase increase thanks for some Steam sales?

    • @matiaslucas1309
      @matiaslucas1309 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, actually all levels from sl 80 and below are the most active in a wide variety of areas and right now, meta level (sl120 or 140) is mostly arena, gsnk city and some, but few, ringed city invasions

    • @crimsonw1ld829
      @crimsonw1ld829 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      120-170 is great at pontiff, you can invade whenever but at about 10:00 there is just about nobody on, then at about 4:00 invasions come in like crazy, you can invade whenever you want and it's almost grunted you'll get one(those aren't time stamps)

  • @VioStarclad
    @VioStarclad 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gordon Ramsay comin' in clutch.

  • @falken8642
    @falken8642 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why does he keep equipping and unequipping the ring of favor? Does it make you run faster or something? That seems like a weird bug in that case and does it only work with that ring?

    • @GoodbyeBill
      @GoodbyeBill 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      yah i came to comment the same thing. im confused (oh equipping resets stamina for infinite)

    • @falken8642
      @falken8642 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GoodbyeBill I see. Thanks for letting me know

  • @yjmsniper
    @yjmsniper 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    He gave you a good game. Intense

  • @frastea.c73
    @frastea.c73 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m realizing this now but if your sword is hollow infused, why don’t you have 99 hollowing? It increases AP on hollow weapons

  • @MrHydra12
    @MrHydra12 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Glad I can live ds3 through you now, I can’t handle the estus canceling anymore and gave up

  • @-ghost-5386
    @-ghost-5386 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    We need a ChaseTheBro set like orobo

  • @FreshBarn
    @FreshBarn 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What does equipping and unequipping the ring of favor achieve?

    • @parsalimooee4372
      @parsalimooee4372 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I know im a year late but here you go:
      Doing this reset's your stamina so you can sprint forever as long as you keep equiping and unequiping the ring.

    • @FreshBarn
      @FreshBarn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I appreciate it anyway

  • @snakeeyes2441
    @snakeeyes2441 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    So why the hollow infusion, does the astora straight sword get some sort of buff from a hollow infuse besides additional luck scaling?

  • @shinedowndiamondeyes
    @shinedowndiamondeyes 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, have you ever tried to fight against Elina? It is located after boss Sulyvhan (where the giants are). You are very strong and I would be curious to know how you deal with her

  • @nullnull629
    @nullnull629 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What does spamming ring of favor do

  • @trevorp8124
    @trevorp8124 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    4:38
    "YOU KNOW, THEY SAY ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL. BUT YOU LOOK AT ME, AND YOU LOOK AT CHASE THE BRO, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT STATEMENT IS NOT TRUE!"

  • @pR1sooeem
    @pR1sooeem 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Being called a Tryhard Boy from chase is a compliment i suppose ^^

  • @leifeinaramundison745
    @leifeinaramundison745 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish I could catch one of your streams one day.

    • @john5311
      @john5311 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ring the bell

  • @PeregrinePilgrimage
    @PeregrinePilgrimage 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:30 why did this little bit sound so... alluring....

  • @mildlymaliciousbanana2700
    @mildlymaliciousbanana2700 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why do blues always gank, and are almost always super salty when they lose, or point down when they win, it’s like the “new” Giant dad (like people who did it not as a joke)

  • @joshuasmith8823
    @joshuasmith8823 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    See weapon..its fucking raw

  • @joaquincomari3486
    @joaquincomari3486 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    im about to buy the game, and idk what would i do if ChaseTheBro wuld invade me...teach me to play man D:

  • @solidmoon8266
    @solidmoon8266 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Kinda dissapointed you used the ring of favour glitch to run away from a gank cause they can roll catch you....

  • @alegs7047
    @alegs7047 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what if the try hards are cosplaying as try hards?

  • @AngelMorenoS-u7n
    @AngelMorenoS-u7n ปีที่แล้ว

    How can you have so many siegbraus?

  • @mr.awareness3398
    @mr.awareness3398 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    an anri cosplay without anris straight sword? excuse me?!

  • @fatraccoon8465
    @fatraccoon8465 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Personally I think the dark souls 3 abs dark souls 1 pvp tryhard players are just toxic (not all of them). The majority of the invaders Thst invade me when I’m hosting a fightclubs try to ruin the fightclub. That, is not that bad tbh. But the real cancerous ones I found were the ones that invade me in other areas away from pontiff and complain that I’m playing some type of way or being too defensive or teaming up on them. I mean, what do they expect? I’d be summoning friends to play through the game with and having fun. Also sometimes I’d play defensive if my 10 million souls are on the the line which I wouldn’t want to lose, lol.

  • @segmentedsanctum5273
    @segmentedsanctum5273 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish icoukd get summoned as a blue for the dam blade if tge darkmoon

  • @BucketBucket1
    @BucketBucket1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I use my sasuke cosplay all the time!

  • @patriksprinc3129
    @patriksprinc3129 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's your favorite build

  • @ThatBoiDrewbie
    @ThatBoiDrewbie 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love those Butt stabs.

  • @john5311
    @john5311 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At least In Ds3 people don't only backstab like dsr. Plus them being laggy so they always get to backstab you.

  • @maggoteater2290
    @maggoteater2290 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Day 7 of asking for anime girls in the thumbnails

  • @gbickovich
    @gbickovich 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:46 would be a beautiful backstab :3
    Work on it, its pretty cool when getting chased by 1

    • @xXTrYhArrdXx
      @xXTrYhArrdXx 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Герман Бычкович he’s obviously done it before 😂

    • @gbickovich
      @gbickovich 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Getting it once and getting it consistantly is different

  • @bradleyhandsonjoehallschro5419
    @bradleyhandsonjoehallschro5419 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I might be in the minority for saying this, but I prefer dark souls 1 pvp over this game. HERE ME OUT! I'm not saying that the combat system or controls are balance is better in dark souls 1 (as it's clearly better in ds3) but how pvp functions in ds1 is better. I prefer the idea that the Invader has unfair advantages over the host and the entire invasion is usually in favor of the invader. This is because the host not only has to watch out for the hostile world and enemies, but now a player controlled enemy. But they do still have phantoms if they need it.
    In DS3 there's the blues that can come in and help/save the host from an invader and a seed that can turn enemies against the invader. Not to mention that being embered grants a health bonus to the host. It makes it that much more difficult for the invader to take on the host. To many times do i see an invader invade a host's world. The host has 3 phantoms, then seeds the world. If the invader somehow manages to kill the phantoms, here comes 2 blues to help the host. What's that? One of the blues died? Well then here, have another.

    • @jacobwalker3915
      @jacobwalker3915 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree with your point, invasions should favor the invader as part of the challenge of dark souls. Plus, it's fun as hell whenever the host kills invaders so that extra challenge become more so fulfilling after a victory

  • @lassim3111
    @lassim3111 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Make nameless king cosplay please

  • @Paen_events
    @Paen_events 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve been watching for about a month and chase the bro is really good at this game but gets mad at people for doing what he would do to other people lol

    • @Emoralis
      @Emoralis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maybe in old videos like this. The only thing I see him upset about is using glitches, and summoning 10 phantoms to hide behind.

  • @Snoop_Chien
    @Snoop_Chien 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    "why am i doing no damages" proceed to play with a Hollow SS without being a Hollow

  • @Bloo.2
    @Bloo.2 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    what did the guy at 3:12 have? the lightning weapon?

    • @elementdragon2
      @elementdragon2 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lightning infused straightsword.

    • @Bloo.2
      @Bloo.2 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ziggy ASMR I meant his other sword, my bad lol

    • @elementdragon2
      @elementdragon2 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Bloo.2 Four people were on that frame lol. If you're talking abt the host, she had a lighting exile greatsword and Saint's Spear. If you're talking abt the other invader, it was an Aquamarine Dagger.

    • @Bloo.2
      @Bloo.2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ziggy ASMR sorry I didn’t specify lol but thanks! Got my answer :)

  • @alexbateman3910
    @alexbateman3910 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    So since you were farming tongues, would you say that would had some good tongue action? :P

  • @elementdragon2
    @elementdragon2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ayyy I'm in a tryhard video lmao

    • @z1ggyn124
      @z1ggyn124 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Don't give us a bad name bro

    • @elementdragon2
      @elementdragon2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@z1ggyn124 The description also says "skilled gankers". That's a compliment.

    • @z1ggyn124
      @z1ggyn124 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@elementdragon2 lol cool

  • @marianoweigel6636
    @marianoweigel6636 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    hahaha this man is so funny!
    but too overexperienced compared to the ones he invade.

  • @draelos8570
    @draelos8570 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lol what's your cosplay, straight sword guy?

  • @BigDBrian
    @BigDBrian 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    it's embarrassing to see you complain about latency as if you don't understand the asynchronous component. They're rolling on time on their screen, they're hitting you with their sword on screen. Just as you should be doing on your end.
    It's frustrating yes, but it's not conveniently in their favour.

  • @ПетрТрифонов-х8р
    @ПетрТрифонов-х8р 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This katana guy (thrall hood) pressuring you in the group effectively, and stay fight with you alone even when you take initiative and was obvious you have skill advantage... and he got poin down for being rare brave and competent blue spirit. Chase, you so wrong...

    • @ПетрТрифонов-х8р
      @ПетрТрифонов-х8р 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @moonsauce this is dumb position. Invaders need gankers. We don't wont duels at a bonfie and we dont want always kill standart PvE coo-pers. And If we need gankers we should respect them as an opponents, or we be just hypocritical assholes.
      And ofcourse i'l dont mind to see YOU being one on one with somebody like Chase and how YOU perform "on your one" :)

  • @torinjones3221
    @torinjones3221 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Most of the salt seemed to be coming from you though

  • @hamedghaznavi1619
    @hamedghaznavi1619 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The are not try harder then u u son

  • @eleazarespinoza5850
    @eleazarespinoza5850 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love it when I get here early. :3

  • @princeminato
    @princeminato 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Stats

  • @zerulaw9118
    @zerulaw9118 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you change your name to "give me some fork" and be an invader that only kill blue ? that might make some nice moment with you and host // laugh

  • @KazeShiniSK
    @KazeShiniSK 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    herro chase! it's me scott steiner!

  • @theolddeus9672
    @theolddeus9672 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Howdy brother, how goes getting them booties?

  • @Kaouson001
    @Kaouson001 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are one of the tryhards = =

  • @GothmogSan
    @GothmogSan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh dat Glitching for win
    But Cosplay Builds are fun, im playing a Nice Samurai with the Odachi, its hard but fun.

  • @bluntroachgawdd2828
    @bluntroachgawdd2828 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What's that thing you do when you're running and keep putting on that ring? Does it make stamina recover faster?

    • @Grayfox354
      @Grayfox354 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      That's the FaP ring, when you put it back on and off again it resets your stamina so you can run infinitely, also works on ladders

    • @victordreyfus8744
      @victordreyfus8744 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Grayfox354 whaaaat the fuck why have I never heard of that