The Souvenir reviewed by Mark Kermode
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ส.ค. 2019
- Mark Kermode reviews The Souvenir. In the early 1980s, a young film student begins a romantic entanglement with an untrustworthy man.
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Something I noticed in the movie that really caught me were the references to the Lebanon hostage crisis as well as the Birmingham Six / Guildford Four / Maguire Seven. All of which were cases of people being wrongfully held against their will, much like Julie was being held by Anthony. Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but I thought it was interesting.
4Darco really good point. Also the moment where her reading of a note from Anthony is interrupted by the sound of a bombing (i guess the Harrods bombing). a sudden moment of violence inserted into an otherwise romantic scene
But Julie is not held against her will. On the contrary, she wants him around and is quite as much addicted to him and the world of thoughts he embodies as he is hooked on heroin.
Maybe it's just me, but I don't really understand why many reviewers put an emphasis on the main heroine, Julie's, *privileged position*. There are tons of quite popular movies which are tone deaf about money and social standing and yet demand you to feel sympathy towards exaggerated problems. On the contrary, I found Julie a pleasant young woman, not spolied or bratty in any way. Just because she isn't struggling financially doesn't automatically make her unlikable. More so, the overall quiet and unsentimental tone of the movie only served to make her more sympathetic, the way she just couldn't shake off the terrible spell of Tom Burke's character.
Because it plays into the relationship she has with Anthony, and the movie she herself I trying to make.
Thank You‼︎ I was literally just trying to make this point to someone who had argued otherwise. My humble perspective as to why there is an emphasis from viewers on the socioeconomic status of these characters is primarily because we live in such an extremely fractured socioeconomic time right now; therefore, it seems to me that the the negative emphasis by some viewers on the 'Class issue' within this film speaks volumes about the world we are living in today, as opposed to a genuine reaction to the film itself. Very glad you brought this up. Moreover, I completely agree with you about the heroine of the film, portrayed by Honor Swinton - despite her family perhaps being better-off than many, in no way is there a sense of arrogance or superiority portrayed [directly or indirectly] in the film. Furthermore, it seems to me that some people simply did not like the slower pacing of the film and the skeletal, atmospheric drive, rather than a more plot-driven film... So, perhaps the viewers who disliked this film did so out of boredom and retroactively attribute it to socioeconomics when articulating their dislike. -- This is definitely not a film for everyone, but the exploits of an apathetic, decadent rich girl this film is not‼︎ For what it's worth, I supremely loved this film. It hit me on a visceral level, rather than being a piece of cinema that I just 'intellectually appreciate.'
@@NYmonk88 You are welcome!) One more thing I can add to this conversation - it's a mystery to me why the poster of the movie has a picture of the main characters in Venice as if Venice is somehow integral to the plot. Maybe there is a diferent cut of the movie where it has more to it, but in the version I've seen this trip takes about 5 minutes of the runtime and, speaking of "exploits", this is when Tom tries to kind of introduce Julie to this way of life (old-fashioned, but not a good way, in an actually pretentious and stilted way) and she looked uncomfortable, unnatural and miserable.
@@renata8979 i guess i found the reason for this poster. They are mirrored on it ! It's a kind of reality and a kind of virtuellity in it.
We know much about what Julie feels, but we know so few about Anthony.
I'm curious about Part 2!
Hi Mark.
I Play his friend Ray (intruder) in Part 1 and 2. I also acted as the consultant on the film. I was coming up to 18 months Clean and Sober when I was asked to Consult on the films.
I also worked with the art department and the DOP to help create the paraphernalia scenes.
Love the channel. Keep up the great work
J x
This is honestly one of the most impactful films of recent memory. It left me breathless and stunned. Would highly recommend seeking this one out.
Did you see the same film as I did?
Brendain maolduin yeah I agree, it was bland and tedious. It felt cold and I just didn’t feel any investment in what was taking place.
Prefer Animals and The Irishman
Really loved it but will need to see it again as, especially in the early part, I was missing the dialogue as I was enjoying or working out the songs from the early 80's soundtrack which were in the background. Won't spoil it but did get them all.
If you actually were able to find all - or the majority - of songs in this film, I would be very grateful if you wouldn't mind sharing. ....There is specifically one song that I tried to find, to no avail. There is a song in the scene when the heroine [Honor Swinton] puts a cassette in the boombox, while at the same time Anthony is cooking something in the kitchen. The cassette then plays what sounds like an early Bowie B-side or something like that. If you have any idea to what I am referring, and are willing to divulge your findings, please do - either here or shoot me a message, if able to do so via TH-cam. ....BTW, loved this film as well
BirdsEyeView it is a John Cooper Clarke song, although I’m not sure the name of the track
@@NYmonk88 th-cam.com/video/GNwyNu4T4k0/w-d-xo.html
Such a beautiful film, and really marks out Hogg not just as a great talent but someone who is still developing her work and trying new things.
She should have started features straight out of film school. Imagine where she would have been now.
Liked the movie and the acting by lead protagonist was on point. But this whole drug addiction and couples life dealing with that felt like it has been done thousand times before. 7/10
Heard part 2 is really good and therefore I needed to see this one
THE SOUVENIR MOVIE COMES TO BRAZIL, WHEN
PLEASE review LAZZARO FELICE!
its not popular ! rare who watched this movie like me & you as far as i know
Salim Sos a lot of people have talked about it lol
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Wonderful film, glad I got the chance to see it, hopefully more people will do.
I would do if it was playing anywhere near me.
Touch of the what about him? The ‘rouet’ ?
Roue - a libertine, a rake, a man given to debauchery
Didn’t like it much. Proof that improvised, naturalistic dialogue - as realistic, authentic and un-filmlike as it is - often just isn’t that engaging or enjoyable to sit through. That said, I could not fault the acting - Swinton and Burke were superb.
Check out my review of The Souvenir! hobbiesiwatchmovies.com/2019/09/13/the-souvenir-2019-review/
Mark..if you see this..i love you 2999
Reminded me of 'By the Sea' by then-together Brangelina. In a similar way this is a typical Tilda Swinton film, the upper class romanticizing fest. I agree 100% the acting was top-notch. But personally I prefer to find something likable about the characters I'm watching and the protagoist's babish rich girl antics were quite disgusting to sit through for 2+ hours.
I remember I watched L'Argent at film school and thought it was so dull, my lecturer said I should read a little book about it, which I did and then I thought it was the best film ever, a work of genius about alienation in society. I was very bored watching 'Souvenir' I tried to remember my thoughts on Renais's 'L'argent,' while watching it but no, I didn't feel anything...i didn't care about the characters. The film tried to touch on too many issues but ultimately I didn't care about any of them because it was all so fragmented, detached and dull ...if that was the idea then she should have went all out towards expressing that instead of distracting me with so many other things. I just felt it was a film to express her crazy time when she was young and carefree and reckless...but it just showed me that she lived such a secluded life. What might have been crazy for her i.e being rich and having lived amongst mere morals at film school and had a junky boyfriend in a time when the IRA were active isn't really that interesting and out there (or at least not in the way it was portrayed in this film)...go to a Wetherspoons pub at 9am and speak to one of the old punters there, trust me you'll find a better story for a script...but unfortunately they don't have money to get there story out there like Hogg does. If she'd done a film about the difficulty of being accepted for her class and how this alienated her and how she tried to cope with the situation that might have been a bit more engaging..I think having Tilda Swinton (who I love) and Martin Scorsese (who I love) involved has got everybody creaming their pants.
She's doing Souvenir 2, can't wait, she better get a book published about it before it comes out!!!
Pablo Robertson totally agree with your review. One of the dullest and most pretentious film I’ve ever watched
- I respect all sincere and considered opinions, and while I totally disagree with your review, I appreciate that it is at least not just a quick reaction. I think the dullness you refer to is less about Hogg attempting to portray what to her was the 'carefree' years of her Youth; for instance when taking note of her repertoire of films, they all focus on upper-middle to upper class people and families, they all have a slower tone, the plots are all skeletal, and any pathos felt is amorphous, indirect - a product of the atmosphere rather than very specific scenes. ----- You mention Hogg focuses on too many issues - this in particular I really do not know of what you are referring. It is a love story with one character in film school while in those formative years of young adulthood, while the other lover is a junkie who to some degree hides his illness, or at the least is simply not the stereotype of a junkie, as is done in the majority of films that do portray an addict. I got the sense that anything and everything external to the toxic relationship [i.e; The IRA, socio-economics, the wildness of youth, etc] was frankly a bit of world-building, as opposed to a fragment within the plot. .... All in all, I felt The Souvenir was a shot beautifully, acted brilliantly, produced very well and hit me in my core. For what it is worth, I didn't know Tilda Swinton was in the film until viewing, let alone that Scorsese produced it until I finished watching it. The last thing i will say is that I can understand how this is definitely not a film for everyone, and more so - that it will not illicit an emotional response from everyone. Irrespective of the issues explored in the film, the very fact that these characters 'have money' as you say is unfortunately an aspect that I think becomes a stumbling-block for many viewers who can't look past it and therefore find it pretentious, boring, and unwilling to even try and empathize with the characters and the situation these two find themselves in.
Bresson directed L' Argent, just so you know
This film was up there with watching paint dry.
I have to agree. I love her films but I really didn’t get this one. The acting and characters were solid but it didn’t come together for me.
I had a really hard time hearing (and of course understanding) at the end I eas exhausted by that, I was about to leave the theater, as many others díd, I was surprised by the cast and other things but not impress at the least by this movie. What a waste!
In a nutshell, Tom Burke's character is a narcissist. I recognise the relationship dynamic a mile off. Brilliant film!
Not necessarily. I think he does some extremely manipulative things to satisfy his addiction, stealing and lying constantly, then showering her with attention when she begins to tire of him, but it's more to satisfy his addiction, which he attempts to end near the end (with the window smashing and all) although he does it unsuccessfully
@@JR-hi9bu which makes him a narcissist. Narcissists aren't necessarily bad people, they just don't see others. They cannot afford empathy, as they live in survival mode.
@@lauraf.e2788 maybe you'll have to make clear your definition of a narcissist. I don't think he's without empathy anyhow, his addiction just compels him to treat her in the way that he does, but he does ultimately attempt some change with his unsuccessful attempts at withdrawal. He doesn't seem to be without empathy, or even self-obsessed, just endlessly attempting to feed the great big beast eating him from the inside
@@JR-hi9bu what you've described, is the definition of a narcissist. They have to feed the beast within, no matter what. I write on NPD as part of my living. I recommend the Little Shaman Healing channel.
@@lauraf.e2788 this still puzzles me. It seems whatever I say that seems to contradict your rather vague definition you just append to your own little list of narcissistic behaviours. He has an addiction and, to satisfy it, he manipulates the main character. By the beast I meant the addiction, but you've bent it into something within all narcissists. As is shown, shaking an addiction to heroin is extremely painful and difficult, and so he at times exploits the main girl, but does ultimately attempt to end his addiction, which is successful until he relapses and dies. This is typical of many addicts, it doesn't at all make them narcissists, and I really can't match the vagueries of your definition with the confidence of your being able to 'see it a mile away' or whatever you said in your original comment.
worst film ive seen this year. utterly self indulgent twaddle about emotionally stunted toffs with a habit for horse and harrods. AVOID.
David Slattery yes. Interminable
very, VERY surface level analysis. for me, the film's great achievement was to get me to (eventually) sympathise with these characters i couldn't relate to, and isn't that kind of the point of storytelling?
It's not very good.
It’s crap
Worst movie of 2019. I can't think of how it could have been more boring.
I agree with Kermode reviews much more often than not, but this was one of the most boring movies I've seen in a long time.
same here! I also noticed some editing mistakes (continuity errors, Julie not laughing while there's an audio of her laughing). Anthony wasn't charming or interesting even though he's supposed to be enigmatic and attractive and so on. Everything was so dull!
i hated anthony from the beginning but he won me over. thought it was fantastic but i love joanna hogg
@@Ira__L on the contrary, something about his character in the trailer compelled me to see it, and although he is very frustrating he's still a very entertaining character
In that case, skip First Cow and Portrait Of A Lady On Fire.
I loved Portrait of a Lady on Fire.
Utterly detestable boring film. Ignore these 'sophisticated' reviewers high on themselves and talking to some other fraction of a fraction of an audience other than the general public. I like so many of the general public am sick and tired of reading these reviewers telling what a wonderful film is due out for release, by such a wonderful directer, and such wonderful actors etc etc, We go along filled with excitement and then the reality check! Awful bloody film. These intellectual types reviewing these films are addressing some other audience on some other planet. Mind blowing awful film. Avoid!!
Brendain maolduin yep. Just saw it. Jeez. Awful.
Wow maybe people have different opinions and tastes? Who would've thought?
Haha personally I tend not to like those that speak for "the general public". You didn't like the film, maybe even most people wouldn't but critics don't know you or what you like. If you go see a film without knowing what it is/what the directors done before and hate it I'm sorry but that's your fault and nobody else's.
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