We'll continue to post these episodes here on TH-cam. If you can't wait for the rest of the build, visit our site to binge-watch: www.powernationtv.com/shows/horsepower
Ya'll should resto-rod a Rambler American or clone, get all your peoples hands on it (involved) and label it project Freedom Red White and Blue! Perhaps auction it donate proceeds to Veterans. Everybody in the shop on camera! 👍👍 🏁 🇺🇸
Are you kidding me I watched every single episode waiting for you guys to take that Thunderbird on the street and you never showed it extremely disappointed
Hi, did you ever see an episode of them actually taking it out for drive? I just saw these episodes today and put this comment on: I assume you do have an episode where you take the 'deep sleep' tbird out and actually drive it and maybe to the drag strip? Where do I find it? I have looked all over your YT channel and web site and can only find 4 episodes with this tbird , with this episode seemingly the last? Can you provide a link to an episode where you actually drive it? Thank you
I’m so glad they are putting these on TH-cam I’ve been watching power block since the Spike TV and TNN cable television days. Lots of changes thru the years but great content
I would agree, discovered them on youtube. The best thing about their videos is seeing all the people in the comments get salty about how they do their work
@@BuzzLOLOL I appreciate the 3 period (...) missive at the end of your declarative statement. Man, you GM fan boys really know how to put people in their place. Please keep trolling Powernation so we can get things right with your guidance. This "build" has a TCI Six-Speed Automatic Transmission based off the gearset and case of a GM truck 4L80E. Its a fine transmission if you have $9K to spend and really need a 850 HP 6 speed that does not have double OD. Long way from your Silverado truck tranny sport. Maybe you should try to understand how PN acquires parts for showcase builds? Your dopey remark doesn't make this a GM build Buzz Boy. Stick with college sports watching.
@@BlueOvalEdge - I'm a retired GM engineer... the new 10 speed automatic is a collaboration between GM and Ford... how are you going to whine about that? You're prolly still jealous that back in the day GM had 52% of the market and all the other car companies in the world together had to split up the remaining 48%...
@@BuzzLOLOL I don’t know what “prolly” means but I went to real Aeronautical Engineering school where they didn’t teach internet geek speech. The Ford GM 10-speed automatic transmission collaboration was announced in 2016, so thanks for keeping us up to date on current events. I liked your “back in the day” crack. So lets take a look at “back in the day”. You’re a retired “back in the day” GM engineer are you? You should be proud. During your “career”, you contributed to a failed car company that in 2009, after it received $17.4 billion in tax dollar bailouts, went bankrupt, wiping out shares of tens of thousands of common stock holders. Furthermore, GM took $49.5 billion in federal TARP money where the government only recovered $39 billion resulting in a loss of $10.3 billion shouldered by the tax payer (again). Were you the engineer that developed the Northstar OHC V8 epic failure of an engine that forced GM to upgrade a pushrod V8 where the rest of the world went OHC by 1996?? Were you contributing to the downfall of GM when GM chairman, Roger B. Smith said “Americans will buy General Motors cars because they are Americans”? Maybe you were there when GM pulled so many stunts with the American factory worker that the idiot Michael Moore made his “Roger and Me” movie after GM closed its factory in Flint, Michigan, eliminating (another) 35,000 jobs. I actually think you’re lying about being a “retired GM engineer” but if you are, shame on you for what your failed car company has done to America. As for the “new” GM, good luck, they haven’t paid their shareholders a dividend since March 2020.
... grounding the alternator to an aluminum water passage will cause electrolysis and destroy all aluminum parts that contact steel . Ground the alternator to the battery to prevent the flow of electricity through parts with cooling water in them .i built a 327 Chevy with aluminum heads . Electrolysis destroyed the head where the alternator was mounted .
It normally takes forever for major failures due to electrolysis when system is properly flushed and maintained. Just about every older intake I've seen has been grounded. Great logic though, but not a worry if coolant is mixed properly.
@@tracewallace23 Yes ; don't make a 100 AMP alternator ground current flow anywhere near a cooling passage if you don't have to .Ground the alternator as direct to the battery as possible .That's a nice car they are building .
When I graduated college I purchased a fully loaded 97 T-bird off the lot. Ran it for many years before my ex took it after the divorce. She drove it into the ground and called it Thunderchicken. I would love to get it back and update it as a sleeper. I would daily that one forever. Loved that car.
So I watched all the episodes and was left with my D in my hand!!! No track time no tire smoke no racing the car what so ever. I so wanted to see this car run. What a let down.👎
Thank you dude, this is what I was gonna say. We didn't get no closure. We watch the beautiful sleeper get built, but never once get to see it perform. You just don't do that!
Had to put a thumbs up on your comment , Thunderbirds are mine too ... I had to pull over on side of the road to watch .. hahaha , got excited seeing a tbird on the show ...
Joseph lancaster Yeah ' cougars are cool , Back about 14 years ago .. you would run into seeing tbirds , cougars a lot between the 14 years less and less .. I also like SC models
@CASPER 12345 ; Wrong. Typical BS. "Btw I'm talking facts not feelings". So you refer to the Ford name as f.o.r.d? I guess your acronym means, found on road dead or fix or repair daily. Grow up. Factory Camaro vs factory Mustang (except of course 1974-1978 Mustang II), the Mustang GT's have owned Camaro's ass since 1965. Fact. Even the Mustang II's out sold Camaros. 305 tuned port sucked ass. Fact. Chevy had to resort to the trusty 350 just to compete with the Mustang 5.0. During the IROC years, Chevy had their own little racing club. Not 1 loser ever. All IROC Camaros finished 1st. You have to spend $20,000 to go half as fast as a Chevy. Get outta here.
@CASPER 12345 ; Yep, I've seen many Fords with Chevy small blocks the last 40+years. So what? It's still a Ford. That's like if you received a heart transplant from a donor who's black, that makes you an African. Your exaggerated $20,000 Ford, lets say the 351 Cleveland, can only go half as fast as a $10,000 Chevy 350 is an absolute dumb remark. There's a lot of biased attitudes in the engine business, especially against Fords. So a Ford piston cost $100 compared to a Chevy piston @ $50. You better crack open some Summit Racing or Jegs parts catalog, and you'll discover that $ for $, the prices are about the same.
@CASPER 12345 you are right. I'm a die hard mustang guy I love them it's a family affair that was forever instilled after gone in 60 seconds but since I can remember back in 2007 high school.. chevy engines have been the go to for fast reliable easy to fix and cheap power. I myself was actually going to buy a 97 formula firebird transam ws6 package cause it's faster out of the box 14.1 to 13.8 stock (driver mod) but the aftermarket support is bigger and cheaper than a damn Honda.
@CASPER 12345 my best friends dad actually opend my eyes to that a chevy guy. I said pops would you get a mustang.. he said yeah and drop a 350 in it.. then I went to google and blew my mind how many chevy engines are in everything.
After reading a few of these comments, I get the impression that after all of the previous episodes featuring an impressive power train build and the labor intensive installation of everything required for a first class power upgrade, that additional videos showing how awesome this project should have turned out are not being made available ? That just can’t be right. Not proudly displaying the results absolutely defeats the purpose of the entire project. I have a 1987 Thunderbird Turbo Coupe with the 5 speed manual transmission that I’ve owned since it was new. It’s still a strong runner but the turbocharged and inter-cooled 2.3 liter four cylinder in the somewhat heavy T-Bird could definitely benefit from a well built V-8 upgrade. Watching this video series provided some good information about what to expect during the upgrade but seeing the results in action would be great.
@PowerNation ... I'm just curious why the lag in uploading this complete project? Joe and John have been gone years now but newer episodes with Mike joined by Pat are up on the channel.
Because it’s smart. A lot of these videos are new to a lot of people and they are bringing in new subscribers to see this content. All this content is making money for power nation and they are also able to get new subscribers in for the app.
I agree. We've all sat and watched 4 videos of yall building this awesome sleeper, then you don't even give us some closure with a burnout or quick drag race!
How are you planning to protect that battery cable? Looks like it just runs along the bottom and while it's away from any sharp, hot or pokey things on the car, it's exposed to road debris etc..
Coming from the years of stock car racing and watching how often my dads street/strip car overheated, I HATE UNSHROUDED COOLING SYSTEMS, after we built shrouds for all our race cars we never had cooling problems anymore
Bad Donkey I was thinking the exact same thing. By not using a shroud you might as well only be using a radiator that’s the same size as the fan. I had overheating issues for years before I realized that a simple sheet metal shroud with some spacers for the fan significantly increases the cooling efficiency of the radiator.
@@TurboNFRStwoK exactly, before we got serious in racing i never realized how important a shroud is, we even started using stock GM electric fans off Cavaliers and grand ams cause no.1 we had a salvage so plenty of fans and no.2 they are shrouded from factory
@@MrStacy1974 its just a tank with a bung in it. Could be a p/s reserve, could be a surge tank, water tank for an air to water IC. Could be a lot of things. Its just a tank.
O2 sensor must be installed with connector pointing upward, and tip pointing downward. This is to stop condensation on the tip. These are manufacturers install instructions.
Wrong. It can be mounted at different angles above the horizontal plane. Just not below. Check OEM positions on cars.....you'll see. Plus that was what was in the instructions to ALL my wide band 02 sensors I bought in the last 10 years. Usually.... There is no room to mount an 02 sensor straight up. The floor of the car is usually in the way. DUH
Here are instructions showing a recommended 10 degree installation angle. There is more then 1 way to mount an 02 sensor. Learn shit before you say shit. lib.americanmuscle.com/files/53904.pdf
@@starbattles1" The bung must be positioned in such a way that the sensor is at a minimum of 10 degrees from a horizontal position with the electrical connection up to prevent a collection of liquid at the element during the warm up phase." Hmmmm. 10 degrees is smaller than another thing I read.
U could pull a 97 n up truck 351w "roller" cam motor, refresh, use GT40/P heads off an 96-98 Explorer, n possibly bought 65-73 mustang 351w headers n made muliple returns, but possibly better fit, or run Shorty or mid lenght headers, n also used a Foxbody 351w swap stock style oil pan, or modified a stock truck pan, in other words, u could have had a 400hp 351, at 1/8th the price...
Id say the 10+ years of quality fabrication and engine building powernation has done would go to prove they're not amateurs. Especially since you're pointing out the one mistake made, which usually gets left for whatever burnout, moron that discount tire hired
So I guess it must be not hot where you're at? With your fan sucking in one little spot on the radiator. My experience with fans is they seem to need a shroud around the whole radiator. Though I know you guys know what you're doing. I hope you're not running AC on this thing.
@@seandeterman2499 That's their OLD 1/2", I have one, it's old enough you can't buy Infinium 18v batteries anymore from Matco. Maybe it's more like 8 years old? I'm 28 now and bought it when I was 20.
I assume you do have an episode where you take the 'deep sleep' tbird out and actually drive it and maybe to the drag strip? Where do I find it? I have looked all over your YT channel and web site and can only find 4 episodes with this tbird , with this episode seemingly the last? Can you provide a link to an episode where you actually drive it? Thank you
My buddy from high school is a merchant marine. When he first started doing the shipping runs he was a young kid making a shit ton of money......bought his first Super Coupe....totaled it, went out and bought his second. Awesome car.
@@edwarddelbar Mine was fully loaded with all the ground effects and was 1 of only less than 2000 in White with the manual transmission. I regretted selling it.
Where is some video in the parking lot with this thing boiling the tires?! Sure, I came here for the 427W stroker build, but why not do another episode?!
I remember, some years ago, a project exactly like this called “project deep sleep”. Is this the same project and episodes or are they just redoing the whole original project?
Preacher Dan, you are correct, this is the same project. You can watch all the Deep Sleep episodes on our website: www.powernationtv.com/build/17/97-ford-thunderbird-deep-sleep
PowerNation unless ur in canada like a huge number of us gearheads. We can't watch anything on ur site. Which is totally ridiculous and makes no sense to me?
PowerNation that’s what I thought. Is there footage of this project in its completed form? As best that I can remember, I don’t remember seeing a review episode to show what this thing could do on the street.
My guess is somewhere in the $15-20k amount. Engine and trans is expensive. Probably half the budget or more. The rest is little stuff. If you have to pay someone to build it budget about $100/hr for shop labor.
@@crashcourseinbruhsurgery Feeding 650hp on a stroked small block Ford would be hard through the efi manifolds available 10 years ago not to mention tuning at the track is made much easier. Antiquated or not, carb is superior for full race where peak power is key and carbs make it easy to dial in quickly. Plenty of advantages moving an air fuel mass through a single plane vs a dry air charge through a dual plane efi manifold. I'd take a distributor and carb over modern efi just due to the simplicity. It's also cheap to buy the 80$ fuel pump, a 100$ regulator, and a used 750 Holley to support 500hp on a tiny budget.
@Ed Miller There is no reason to do so on this car. For this particular application, it would be far more complicated and expensive swapping to efi and would boast little to no measurable performance gain. What would be the benefit?
We'll continue to post these episodes here on TH-cam. If you can't wait for the rest of the build, visit our site to binge-watch: www.powernationtv.com/shows/horsepower
You know me all too well!! Thanks so much!
Ya'll should resto-rod a Rambler American or clone, get all your peoples hands on it (involved) and label it project Freedom Red White and Blue! Perhaps auction it donate proceeds to Veterans. Everybody in the shop on camera! 👍👍 🏁 🇺🇸
John Hancock they don’t respond 😂
@@romero.4089 oh well bummer 🇺🇸 thanks for heads up 🏁 ✌✌ 👍👍
John Hancock yea no problem
Are you kidding me I watched every single episode waiting for you guys to take that Thunderbird on the street and you never showed it extremely disappointed
Hi, did you ever see an episode of them actually taking it out for drive? I just saw these episodes today and put this comment on: I assume you do have an episode where you take the 'deep sleep' tbird out and actually drive it and maybe to the drag strip? Where do I find it? I have looked all over your YT channel and web site and can only find 4 episodes with this tbird , with this episode seemingly the last? Can you provide a link to an episode where you actually drive it? Thank you
😂😂😂😂
I would love to see it running on the road. I have a 95 t-bird lx v8. Really want to fix it back up or sell it to someone who’s going to build it up.
Yup big letdown!
@@eswords1 nope never found an episode where they actually took it out and drove it it just abruptly ended no more episodes of the T-Bird crazy
It's actually relaxing hearing them speak normally to each other.
I’m so glad they are putting these on TH-cam I’ve been watching power block since the Spike TV and TNN cable television days. Lots of changes thru the years but great content
I would agree, discovered them on youtube. The best thing about their videos is seeing all the people in the comments get salty about how they do their work
cole west shit I don’t pay attention to idiots lol, I’m here to soak up what I don’t know and see some great builds
Great to see a non GM build. Thank you.
Has a heavy duty GM automatic transmission...
@@BuzzLOLOL I appreciate the 3 period (...) missive at the end of your declarative statement. Man, you GM fan boys really know how to put people in their place. Please keep trolling Powernation so we can get things right with your guidance. This "build" has a TCI Six-Speed Automatic Transmission based off the gearset and case of a GM truck 4L80E. Its a fine transmission if you have $9K to spend and really need a 850 HP 6 speed that does not have double OD. Long way from your Silverado truck tranny sport. Maybe you should try to understand how PN acquires parts for showcase builds? Your dopey remark doesn't make this a GM build Buzz Boy. Stick with college sports watching.
@@BlueOvalEdge - I'm a retired GM engineer... the new 10 speed automatic is a collaboration between GM and Ford... how are you going to whine about that?
You're prolly still jealous that back in the day GM had 52% of the market and all the other car companies in the world together had to split up the remaining 48%...
@@BuzzLOLOL so are you the one responsible for the shitty oil filter location on 2010's V6 engines? The whole subframe design is a joke.
@@BuzzLOLOL I don’t know what “prolly” means but I went to real Aeronautical Engineering school where they didn’t teach internet geek speech. The Ford GM 10-speed automatic transmission collaboration was announced in 2016, so thanks for keeping us up to date on current events. I liked your “back in the day” crack. So lets take a look at “back in the day”. You’re a retired “back in the day” GM engineer are you? You should be proud. During your “career”, you contributed to a failed car company that in 2009, after it received $17.4 billion in tax dollar bailouts, went bankrupt, wiping out shares of tens of thousands of common stock holders. Furthermore, GM took $49.5 billion in federal TARP money where the government only recovered $39 billion resulting in a loss of $10.3 billion shouldered by the tax payer (again). Were you the engineer that developed the Northstar OHC V8 epic failure of an engine that forced GM to upgrade a pushrod V8 where the rest of the world went OHC by 1996?? Were you contributing to the downfall of GM when GM chairman, Roger B. Smith said “Americans will buy General Motors cars because they are Americans”? Maybe you were there when GM pulled so many stunts with the American factory worker that the idiot Michael Moore made his “Roger and Me” movie after GM closed its factory in Flint, Michigan, eliminating (another) 35,000 jobs. I actually think you’re lying about being a “retired GM engineer” but if you are, shame on you for what your failed car company has done to America. As for the “new” GM, good luck, they haven’t paid their shareholders a dividend since March 2020.
That shifter is sweet haven't seen one like that before. I really like this build, seemed like a really clean example to start with.
... grounding the alternator to an aluminum water passage will cause electrolysis and destroy all aluminum parts that contact steel . Ground the alternator to the battery to prevent the flow of electricity through parts with cooling water in them .i built a 327 Chevy with aluminum heads . Electrolysis destroyed the head where the alternator was mounted .
Good to know I shall pass this info along.
It normally takes forever for major failures due to electrolysis when system is properly flushed and maintained. Just about every older intake I've seen has been grounded. Great logic though, but not a worry if coolant is mixed properly.
Couldn't this have easily been solved by just moving the ground to the iron block? Or just grinding off the powder coat at the bolted mating surfaces?
@@tracewallace23 Yes ; don't make a 100 AMP alternator ground current flow anywhere near a cooling passage if you don't have to .Ground the alternator as direct to the battery as possible .That's a nice car they are building .
@@kenreese2791 it is a nice ride.
as someone who has and is working on freightliners, you can keep them plastic hose clamps
Second from a school bus mechanic here. They are expensive and suck to remove without ruining the hose
When I graduated college I purchased a fully loaded 97 T-bird off the lot. Ran it for many years before my ex took it after the divorce. She drove it into the ground and called it Thunderchicken. I would love to get it back and update it as a sleeper. I would daily that one forever. Loved that car.
So I watched all the episodes and was left with my D in my hand!!! No track time no tire smoke no racing the car what so ever. I so wanted to see this car run. What a let down.👎
At least you had your D in your hand. Those guys there had to have someone else's in theirs and maybe their mouth too to get all those nice parts.
Thank you dude, this is what I was gonna say. We didn't get no closure. We watch the beautiful sleeper get built, but never once get to see it perform. You just don't do that!
8====D
I been irritated by this for years, I don’t understand why these guys do this most of the time, I’m with ya!!!👎🏻
Like hooking up with the most beautiful girl you've seen, only to find she's a sack of potatoes in bed.
Nice build, I'm a little sketch on the positive battery cable placement
7:08 junk battery cable end adapters used...
Thank you! T-birds are my favorite cars!
Had to put a thumbs up on your comment , Thunderbirds are mine too ... I had to pull over on side of the road to watch .. hahaha , got excited seeing a tbird on the show ...
Thanks! Yeah I had a few! I had a 5.0 one that was a blast do drive! I even had a cougar!
Joseph lancaster Yeah ' cougars are cool , Back about 14 years ago .. you would run into seeing tbirds , cougars a lot between the 14 years less and less .. I also like SC models
Yup, I have 3 SC birds, 1 is a 95, 5 speed 🚗
Great job on the T bird. I have a 93 SC. Just got it out from winter storage. Its triple black!! And ass kicking!!
Just picked up my second SC this one 94 with lots of Bolt ons
i can't get over how professional and well produced this is.
Boy it must be nice to have all the parts you need with no problems
they did it right. by keeping ford car with a ford motor love it.
An exhaust leak? After watching him fabricate the header, who here is at all surprised?
I love sleeper cars that keep the functionality, like AC and heat!
It’s amazing what 20k will do for a 2k car 😂
@@eriv4735
Why spend 40k on a new car when you can buy an old car for $900, then spend 20k on parts and spend 20k worth of time on it
Man I love watching these engine/cars coming together.
Mike is THE MAN , especially in Alabama today Because everybody knows I love him ..lol
Would be awesome to have an exhaust valve with a really quiet muffler. Look stock and quiet then flip a switch and headers with straight pipes.
“ Sleepy thunder ??should be the name of this build 😝
Most people: *ls swap old stuff*
These guys: let’s do the right thing and not put a Chevy in a ford
@CASPER 12345 ; Wrong. Typical BS. "Btw I'm talking facts not feelings". So you refer to the Ford name as f.o.r.d? I guess your acronym means, found on road dead or fix or repair daily. Grow up. Factory Camaro vs factory Mustang (except of course 1974-1978 Mustang II), the Mustang GT's have owned Camaro's ass since 1965. Fact. Even the Mustang II's out sold Camaros. 305 tuned port sucked ass. Fact. Chevy had to resort to the trusty 350 just to compete with the Mustang 5.0. During the IROC years, Chevy had their own little racing club. Not 1 loser ever. All IROC Camaros finished 1st. You have to spend $20,000 to go half as fast as a Chevy. Get outta here.
@CASPER 12345 ; Yep, I've seen many Fords with Chevy small blocks the last 40+years. So what? It's still a Ford. That's like if you received a heart transplant from a donor who's black, that makes you an African. Your exaggerated $20,000 Ford, lets say the 351 Cleveland, can only go half as fast as a $10,000 Chevy 350 is an absolute dumb remark. There's a lot of biased attitudes in the engine business, especially against Fords. So a Ford piston cost $100 compared to a Chevy piston @ $50. You better crack open some Summit Racing or Jegs parts catalog, and you'll discover that $ for $, the prices are about the same.
@CASPER 12345 you sound like a DEMOCRAT
@CASPER 12345 you are right. I'm a die hard mustang guy I love them it's a family affair that was forever instilled after gone in 60 seconds but since I can remember back in 2007 high school.. chevy engines have been the go to for fast reliable easy to fix and cheap power.
I myself was actually going to buy a 97 formula firebird transam ws6 package cause it's faster out of the box 14.1 to 13.8 stock (driver mod) but the aftermarket support is bigger and cheaper than a damn Honda.
@CASPER 12345 my best friends dad actually opend my eyes to that a chevy guy. I said pops would you get a mustang.. he said yeah and drop a 350 in it.. then I went to google and blew my mind how many chevy engines are in everything.
Wow one of the best sleepers I've seen this is awesome keep it going let's see what are the track numbers
I am seriously loving this build.
at 10:36 that was super ballsey to put your hand there where it might flame up, I mean I know you got it worked out but just in case! Good work!
Wonder if this car will be appearing in 1320 video doing some pulls on the highways...
Yeah this is a really old build
I need this engine for my Thunderbird 😍
I want this project in my thunderbird in the worst way.
I want this on my Ninety Three Thunder⚡️⚡️Bird Have it stock ... 5.0 143k leather interior sunroof
your thunderbird is a 5.0? must cave done a coyote swap
@@lordzeuscannon6400 no it has a 429 big block 🤙
@@Izaiah_J not talking about this one. Was talking about Freddie's
That thing is nasty.. Great work fellas.
After reading a few of these comments, I get the impression that after all of the previous episodes featuring an impressive power train build and the labor intensive installation of everything required for a first class power upgrade, that additional videos showing how awesome this project should have turned out are not being made available ? That just can’t be right. Not proudly displaying the results absolutely defeats the purpose of the entire project.
I have a 1987 Thunderbird Turbo Coupe with the 5 speed manual transmission that I’ve owned since it was new. It’s still a strong runner but the turbocharged and inter-cooled 2.3 liter four cylinder in the somewhat heavy T-Bird could definitely benefit from a well built V-8 upgrade. Watching this video series provided some good information about what to expect during the upgrade but seeing the results in action would be great.
@PowerNation ... I'm just curious why the lag in uploading this complete project? Joe and John have been gone years now but newer episodes with Mike joined by Pat are up on the channel.
Because it’s smart. A lot of these videos are new to a lot of people and they are bringing in new subscribers to see this content. All this content is making money for power nation and they are also able to get new subscribers in for the app.
They also have an episode or two that has Buddy Hendricks on the show
So how do you plan to fit the air cleaner and hood or bonnet?
REALLY...
No driving on the road shots?
"I want to choke on tire smoke by the end of the day"
Looks like he just choked on an exhaust leak instead
I agree. We've all sat and watched 4 videos of yall building this awesome sleeper, then you don't even give us some closure with a burnout or quick drag race!
WTF? Wher's the running car?
@@thedave1602 but aren't you happy watching five minutes of commercials at the end of every show?
@2:51 Holy shit, a busted-ish knuckle!
Don't mount a fan like that,those zip tie things will eventually rub holes in the radiator.
It's ok they'll find out before too long
They don't care.its all free for them anyway!
Prob just temporary mock up.
I'm still waiting for the next episode, by the way I really like the content of your channel 👍🏻
Would be gr8 to have these guys in australia 🌏 love ya show
What gauge (AWG) is that alternator ground wire? It looks a little small for a 100 amp circuit.
I would recommend a ground strap and internal tooth lock washers on the alternator's mounting bolts/nuts to grip through the finish.
For real man no happy ending
How are you planning to protect that battery cable? Looks like it just runs along the bottom and while it's away from any sharp, hot or pokey things on the car, it's exposed to road debris etc..
I was thinking that too! They purposefully went over that scene quick so as to hide the shittyness of that cable routing 🤣
@@Kmecha84 It's more then just that, much of the wiring they ran was unprotected.... Not a very good build IMHO
@@randomcrap763 they should've loomed all the harnesses and used shrink tube connectors for everything.
That intro tune never gets old
Coming from the years of stock car racing and watching how often my dads street/strip car overheated, I HATE UNSHROUDED COOLING SYSTEMS, after we built shrouds for all our race cars we never had cooling problems anymore
Bad Donkey I was thinking the exact same thing. By not using a shroud you might as well only be using a radiator that’s the same size as the fan. I had overheating issues for years before I realized that a simple sheet metal shroud with some spacers for the fan significantly increases the cooling efficiency of the radiator.
@@TurboNFRStwoK exactly, before we got serious in racing i never realized how important a shroud is, we even started using stock GM electric fans off Cavaliers and grand ams cause no.1 we had a salvage so plenty of fans and no.2 they are shrouded from factory
That expansion tank looks suspiciously like a power steering reservoir.
it is
@@victorparra4227I was being sarcastic, I pulled and shipped thousands of those when I worked for a racing shop.
@@MrStacy1974 its a fluid tank, for whatever fluid you decide to put in it. theres nothing "power steering" specific about it.
@@DieselRamcharger I understand that ,but we sold tanks with fittings like that for remote reservoir pumps for sbc racing apps.
@@MrStacy1974 its just a tank with a bung in it. Could be a p/s reserve, could be a surge tank, water tank for an air to water IC. Could be a lot of things. Its just a tank.
Basically anything you need to blow someone’s doors off
Revs motor when the guys hand is right at the fan.
What happened to PAW , Summit's competitor ? And the JC Whitney catalog.
Is this the engine that was built using some "spare parts laying around the shop"?
O2 sensor must be installed with connector pointing upward, and tip pointing downward. This is to stop condensation on the tip. These are manufacturers install instructions.
Wrong. It can be mounted at different angles above the horizontal plane. Just not below.
Check OEM positions on cars.....you'll see. Plus that was what was in the instructions to ALL my wide band 02 sensors I bought in the last 10 years. Usually.... There is no room to mount an 02 sensor straight up. The floor of the car is usually in the way. DUH
Here are instructions showing a recommended 10 degree installation angle.
There is more then 1 way to mount an 02 sensor. Learn shit before you say shit.
lib.americanmuscle.com/files/53904.pdf
@@starbattles1" The bung must be positioned in such a way that the sensor is at a minimum
of 10 degrees from a horizontal position with the electrical connection up to
prevent a collection of liquid at the element during the warm up phase."
Hmmmm. 10 degrees is smaller than another thing I read.
I have been wondering the exact same thing Rusty Mohr! What's up with that guys? Lol
It would have been a good end to this series if they took it to a track and tested it out.
Give me a real world price. Let's say I don't have a sponsor, or a rack of 30k worth of used engine parts.
U could pull a 97 n up truck 351w "roller" cam motor, refresh, use GT40/P heads off an 96-98 Explorer, n possibly bought 65-73 mustang 351w headers n made muliple returns, but possibly better fit, or run Shorty or mid lenght headers, n also used a Foxbody 351w swap stock style oil pan, or modified a stock truck pan, in other words, u could have had a 400hp 351, at 1/8th the price...
According to summit your looking at about 10k long block for motor. Everything together maybe 15k
John Wymer false
@Ed Miller they run about 5-6k
Finally a 302!
Where is your radiator shroud ?
All that tech for a carbureted lump?
John Bouchard you are awesome!, Keep up the great work!,
Jo Elmore has the best voice ever 👍
I actually remembered watching this show back when it was still called "Hot Rod TV" and it was hosted by Joe Elmore and Chuck Hanson
This ever get finished couldn't find anymore videos on it???? Seems to be a theme with powernation.
Y'all still close to Nashville I might be interested in buying this when y'all are done
This was built 10+ years ago....
Holy compression artifacts!
That Hayden fan probably only pulls half the air of the OEM. It won't cool the engine.
Video ends at 12:38 the rest is unrelated, i love this thunderbird but don't care about the rest
Full Videos Please
No further content on this one in season 15 or 16? What happened??
Great trip guys please let them know I'm a ham radio operator
I want those cordless tools at the end.
The wheels are directional. You installed them wrong.
Lol
Are these guys a bunch of amateurs or what?
Id say the 10+ years of quality fabrication and engine building powernation has done would go to prove they're not amateurs. Especially since you're pointing out the one mistake made, which usually gets left for whatever burnout, moron that discount tire hired
@@Highlander1432 that or just really tired
Is there a Finished, Driven, Tested, n final episode?!?!?!!!
So I guess it must be not hot where you're at? With your fan sucking in one little spot on the radiator. My experience with fans is they seem to need a shroud around the whole radiator. Though I know you guys know what you're doing. I hope you're not running AC on this thing.
@@markbremmer8642 Yeah I saw that after I said that .
Matco: this impact is capable of 725 ft/lbs of break away torque.
Milwaukee: "laughs in Milwaukee"
Milwaukee had nothing on these when this was filmed
@@kylesonsalla7620 when was this filmed? They've had that kickass half inch for like 3+ years.
@@seandeterman2499
That's their OLD 1/2", I have one, it's old enough you can't buy Infinium 18v batteries anymore from Matco. Maybe it's more like 8 years old? I'm 28 now and bought it when I was 20.
Sean Determan This was recorded well over 10 years ago.
I assume you do have an episode where you take the 'deep sleep' tbird out and actually drive it and maybe to the drag strip? Where do I find it? I have looked all over your YT channel and web site and can only find 4 episodes with this tbird , with this episode seemingly the last? Can you provide a link to an episode where you actually drive it? Thank you
Nice video
I miss my 1990 Supercoupe with the rare 5MT
My buddy from high school is a merchant marine. When he first started doing the shipping runs he was a young kid making a shit ton of money......bought his first Super Coupe....totaled it, went out and bought his second. Awesome car.
@@edwarddelbar Mine was fully loaded with all the ground effects and was 1 of only less than 2000 in White with the manual transmission. I regretted selling it.
A Sleeper it is, filthy carpeting and all! ( but I'd like to own this one,...in a 'heart beat',...am I allowed to say that around a FORD! )
What happened to the video that shows this finished and on the street?
Where's the video of it finished and test running?
I love Matco Tools but we can't never keep a dealer around here I think we've had three dealers in the last 3 years
Richard Chaney and it’s almost always a weird guy
I've been pulling wrenches for 15 yrs and I've only seen the matco truck maybe twice. A shame cause I like their tools
Where’s the finally to this build?
today on hp, we put 50K worth of parts in a 500$ car and make 610hp . dosent a slightly used shelby gt500 go for 35k?
terry marinopoulos Old episode of horsepower people, pay attention.
Those tbirds are probably one of the best driving cars ever made. Lots of room.
How much money in this build
725 ft lbs of breakaway torque! 😯 Only 500 lbs less than my old cordless impact!
There's a thunderturd here w a 460 c-6 for 2000. Craigslist.
I so want a car like this.
Where is some video in the parking lot with this thing boiling the tires?! Sure, I came here for the 427W stroker build, but why not do another episode?!
next video series is a 351 Cleveland install in a foxbody mustang
BW MadDog [retired] to you? Or everyone?
Wheres the completed build....test on street video?
I don't need a second mortgage on my house just to buy tools
Who said you had to? Da fuq
@@ikecostner1 every one of your comments is pure stupidity
This car belongs at the freedom factory with Cleetus McFarland
Did John leave PN?
I remember, some years ago, a project exactly like this called “project deep sleep”. Is this the same project and episodes or are they just redoing the whole original project?
Preacher Dan, you are correct, this is the same project. You can watch all the Deep Sleep episodes on our website: www.powernationtv.com/build/17/97-ford-thunderbird-deep-sleep
PowerNation unless ur in canada like a huge number of us gearheads. We can't watch anything on ur site. Which is totally ridiculous and makes no sense to me?
PowerNation that’s what I thought. Is there footage of this project in its completed form? As best that I can remember, I don’t remember seeing a review episode to show what this thing could do on the street.
Preacher Dan Nope, no completed videos at all.
Paul Murphy this hurts.
I have a 1997 t bird in excellent condition can you give me an idea how much to do a build like yours ? 🦅🇺🇸🦅
My guess is somewhere in the $15-20k amount. Engine and trans is expensive. Probably half the budget or more. The rest is little stuff. If you have to pay someone to build it budget about $100/hr for shop labor.
Sweet...
Matco tools are great... we can't get our dealer to show up. He sold a toolbox to one guy and quit coming by.
Which year was this video first shot?
What hose did he heat shrink?
another underrated fox body😎
These cars are bigger and different from a fox body. The 1983-1988 bird’s were based on the fox body.
Never liked mounting electric engine fan to radiator like they did.
Well it’s an electric radiator fan so
@@ikecostner1 moron
This sure beats the supercharged V6 in the SuperCoupe but the carburetor has to go. Fuel injection would make this a complete vehicle.
A carb may be less expensive, but it's weird seeing them splurge on everything else while using such an antiquated method of fuel delivery.
@@crashcourseinbruhsurgery Feeding 650hp on a stroked small block Ford would be hard through the efi manifolds available 10 years ago not to mention tuning at the track is made much easier. Antiquated or not, carb is superior for full race where peak power is key and carbs make it easy to dial in quickly. Plenty of advantages moving an air fuel mass through a single plane vs a dry air charge through a dual plane efi manifold. I'd take a distributor and carb over modern efi just due to the simplicity. It's also cheap to buy the 80$ fuel pump, a 100$ regulator, and a used 750 Holley to support 500hp on a tiny budget.
@Ed Miller There is no reason to do so on this car. For this particular application, it would be far more complicated and expensive swapping to efi and would boast little to no measurable performance gain. What would be the benefit?
$2,000 more for EFI and less reliable...
PN: empty table
Me: table full of sh**.
Wait. I must have missed it. What kind of transmission is that?
Joe mentioned that it was an automatic transmission, I don't recall what the exact type of automatic transmission it was though
TCI 6 speed auto
Would love to see this in a 79 Tbird