There needs to be a show about the "average joe" style Starfleet vessels like the Nova class and the missions they get sent on. I can imagine a Star Trek: Nova show: Episode 1: "The Anomaly" The Nova is sent on a mission to collect data on a strange spacial anomaly and return it to Starfleet. When arriving there, they collect data which they then return to Starfleet. Starfleet says thanks. Episode 2: "Heal Thyself" The Nova is sent to deliver a vaccine to a plague stricken world. They deliver the vaccine and the people there start to get better. Episode 3: "The Passenger" The Nova is visited by counsellor Troi who is to be transported to Starbase 14. Troi discovers that everyone seems in pretty good mental shape and seems fairly happy. Episode 4: "Please Q Here" Q visits the USS Nova. He does not announce his presence. He just hangs about for a bit then leaves without causing a fuss. No one notices. Episode 5: "New Friends" The Nova escorts an ambassador from a newly discovered alien race. They seem pretty nice but have slightly bumpy foreheads. Episode 6: "Watch Duty" The Nova is assigned patrol duties along the Romulan neutral zone. They don't find any infractions. Epsode 7: "Hell day part 1" Due to a malfunction the Nova replicators are unable to produce pasta dishes. Episode 8: "Hell day part 2" The replicator system is rebooted and pasta dishes reappear on the replicators. Episode 9: "The Aurora" Another spacial anomaly but this time it's multi-coloured.
When you think about it, most people who enlist in Starfleet don't expect the hijinx all the ships from the shows undergo. This here is likely a day in the life of a Starfleet officer not on any 5 year missions in deep space or on stations near strategically valuable wormholes.
I liked that Episode. It was cool to watch how Janeway began to panic (she acted more aggressive, but thats how people hide their panic) at the sight of a Starfleet captain who crossed a moral line in order to get home quicker. It seemed that she was having a battle in her own mind of whether or not she could be pushed to cross the same line, and how very angry she was with Captain Ransom for doing what he did. It was also great to see how easily she forgave Ransom after she saw him trying to do the right thing in the end. I would rank "Equinox" high on my list of top Voyager Episodes.
pepperVenge I totally agree with you. This is high on my list of favorite Star Trek episodes. The moral line that shines so brightly when you are clean and rested and fed gets dimmer and dimmer the worse your situation becomes. I always loved this episode understood that that was true but still drew the line against murder and was not afraid to call Ransom out. But it was also in many ways the end of Janeway’s Captain Ahab era. After this episode she became much less dogmatic in her quest to get home at any cost.
Exactly this. She had still doubts if she should have destroyed the Catretaker array andd the fact that some Starfleet captain choosed the other option made her really insecure
I just now connected the dots that The Cerritos' first officer Jack Ransom has the same name. Wonder if it's just coincidence or they meant to make them related? Would be an interesting added depth for him to Exquinox Ransom's son or nephew.
IMO they missed a great opportunity to have Equinox survive without harming the aliens and joining Voyager on her way back home. The interaction between the crews and ships would have made great stories.
While not exactly applicable I think that having the equinox as a support craft could’ve been used in some of the episodes and roles that the delta flyer did, insofar as “smaller vessel that can go on external missions from voyager for a purpose” is the role of the delta flyer, then again maybe they (diegetically, I recognize the out of universe reasons) could’ve just fixed up their aeroshuttle instead of making the delta flyer, or even modified said aeroshuttle to make the delta flyer and called that the delta flyer. Though I do think that the fact that the equinox is so much slower than voyager is a big problem that could hamper their journey, though they could probably (mostly) overcome that problem with their federation ingenuity. Directly docking their vessels together or at least connecting their warp bubbles, maybe? Something I’ve noticed is that starfleet vessels don’t really seem to be designed with fleet actions in mind. They can do fleet actions, but from a ground up perspective they seem to be designed first and foremost for solitary mission profiles with the fleets, squads, wings and whatever else being an afterthought.
I wonder what the full story of Equinox would have looked like as a series. Not likely to happen, I know. But what would be really cool? A series or least an episode or storyline where Marla Gilmore (the most redeemed of the Equinox crowd) captains her own ship!
Happy to see others sharing that view, the Equinox episodes and that ship design have stuck with me ever since they originally aired. Such a lovely ship design which I wish we'd see more of. Hope it'll get a chance on that new Picard show.
@@DLordSadow Right the crew stashes all their whine bottles behind the consoles in cork cases, so instant exploding tree foam shrapnel projectiles everywhere.
Surf Trektronics I was referring to what they use on the sets for debris. It’s lightweight, soft, and you can set it on fire without burning down the set. Now, whether it’s the most convincing looking material to simulate flying debris on a spaceship bridge is debatable.
@@DLordSadow Yes I was just going with the joke. Likely limited budgets made them keep the cork debris instead of replacing with broken electronic things.
Crunchy Chips eh, it just needs its own area to shine. I’m STILL waiting for the trek show about a small scrappy ship and crew, why does every show need to be about the best new ship and the cream of the fleet crewmen? There was a novel series about a small ship and its crew that would be perfect as a template.
I would have loved to see Alpha Canon of the Akira as a carrier with a through and through fighter deck. Lore Reloaded talked about the ineffectiveness in general of Trek Fighters, but aside for the Games, would be nice to see a carrier.
Drew, that was DS9. A crappy space station in orbit of Planet Shithole. A captain who was a broken man, after his ship, crew, and wife got exploded by the Borg, who went on to start a war and was an accessory to murder. A science officer who got implanted with the memories of an old dude and began gambling with Ferengi and pillaging with Klingons. An engineer who was just some racist guy who was good at killing Cardies and fixing stuff, so they slapped a uniform on him and called him chief. A doctor who was fresh out of the academy and an arse, who later turned out to be Khan Jr. A security officer with zero people skills who could play dirty. An executive officer who was a former terrorist and general bitch. A barman who was a conman and ran a holo-brothel.
@@DrewLSsix Or even official Federation ? Firefly or Dark Matter set in the Trek verse. With some secret or crime hanging over them so they can't just run to Starfleet for help if things get rough. An interesting twist, the Mirror universe, so the Federation is something you avoid or it's post Federation collapse. The protagonist can be either native to the universe or just some regular ship from the Prime universe that got sucked in and are stuck and don't know how to get back.
@@crunchychips8123 And a tailor who was also a tinker, a soldier and a spy. Plus a commander who was a absentee single father of a special needs boy he stuck in the Klingon military.
theNewBee Reviews I like to think its a coating used to absorb heat or radiation. Like the fire proofing used in buildings. Ship gets hit, radiation surges through the hull, and the film reacts to it absorbs that energy by expanding into chunks of harmless debris. You can see just how light they are in many shots.... almost as if they were some kind of foam🤭
@@DrewLSsix Except it's not harmless. Remember in Yesterday's Enterprise when Garrett and Riker died from exploding debris? Or random crew members that get hurt from exploding consoles?
Your humor is my cup of tea. Even though I don’t drink tea. I didn’t make up the expression. Look I’m just sayin I think we could be friends or something.
I do like this ship, its got a nice little smart design. The actor who played the captain of the USS Equinox he was in the classic film The Deer Hunter with Rob Ne Niro and Christopher Walken.
I love your videos because they're both incredibly detailed but also very funny and self-depreciating. Your sense of humor makes these a treat to watch!
I always couldn't help but notice that the Equinox crew's uniforms should have been TNG style, not Voyager style as they were pulled into the Delta Quadrant during the years when TNG was still taking place.
Comparable to a utility jumpsuit, the uniform was first used aboard space stations before eventually coming into service aboard starships in 2371, beginning with the USS Defiant, USS Enterprise-D, USS Voyager, and the USS Equinox. From memory alpha.
If Equinox vanished from the Alpha Quadrant during DS9 season 1... that would put it in the Deltra Quadrant over 2 years before Voyager & still have the crew in the DS9/Voyager uniforms.
@@varianschirmer9375 If that's when they did. But I learned since this comment that Equinox was pulled to the Delta quadrant mere months before Voyager was.
Equinox was one of those few Voyager episodes I really enjoyed. It kind of felt like Voy's (to use a term I recently heard coined) mirror universe episode, showing us what the crew could've been reduced to if they were more willing to cross lines to survive.
This is the only channel on youtube that can take something as mundane as, say, a ships floor panelling and make an entire episode out of it, and make it deeply interesting, and hilarious. This might just be the best Star Trek channel out there.
I've always liked the little ships. Makes a lot of sense having small ships dedicated to a specific role, while the larger vessels are for long range multi-role missions.
I just stumbled upon your videos, but man I gotta say that I love your sense of humor and presentation style! I'll definitely be watching them all and subscribing :)
I love this little class of ship, especially in refit guise of the Rhode Island. Where the Orberth was basically a three wheeled horse drawn buggy, this at least had a fourth wheel and an engine lol. I always though in my mind this was a very durable tough little ship designed to survive in the less peaceful era of DS9/VOY. Great rundown on the class as usual, not as brutal towards it like you can be in other videos. Kind of glad the Nova managed to remain on the Master's good side ;-)
Final appearance not worth mentioning? Um excuse me that sphere builder battle and Enterprise J reveal was the whole reason ST ENT went on to have like 4 more seasons and a couple movies made and totally revived he franchise
This may be my favorite star ship design. I like the pointy edges and corners. A very sleek look. In the early 2000s, there was a great game (great due to the modding community) called Star Trek: Bridge Commander. A modder created this ship and it was my favorite to use due to it's look. I had no idea that the canon version was so small. I am really enjoying these Junkball videos!
Slightly off topic, but Ransom was an idiot to get in that situation to begin with, he (and his crew) had other options when they first got stuck in the Delta Quadrant. What would you do if you were Captain Ransom when the Equinox first got sucked through by the Array? Discuss in this thread, and may I suggest a video on this topic, but anyway, on with my rant. He decided to pick a unnecessary fight with an alien amarda with his itty bitty little science vessel right off the bat, wiping out half his crew and trashing his ship, just to take a slight shortcut on a journey of more than a century (the Equinox having a slower speed than Voyager's 70 year estimate), relying on the authority of the Federation they had never heard of to intimidate them. He instead should have nicely asked for the borders of their territory so as to not violate it and requested any information they were willing to share regarding surrounding species. Most paranoid races are willing to bad mouth their neighbors, which gives you a start. Add a cloak to your ship, Starfleet may not use them because of treaty, but they would know how they work and could build a passable one. Also apparently the design schematic and replicator patterns are in the computer, to be unlocked in flight, by Fleet wide order if the Romulan war ever turned hot. A little bit of hacking and their ship is invisible. After all, no one is going to report you for any treaty violations. And if you want to violate Federation regulations and delete your EMH's ethical subroutines, get it to genetically upgrade your crew like Dr Julian Bashir was as a child - Starfleet tech can alter your genes as an adult, and even as a hyper evolved amphibian. What's the smartest thing to do however is keep a low profile and hang around the Array, to see who else comes through, maybe another Federation ship, maybe someone with information about regions on the way back, or who can be allies, so you form your own Federation in the Delta quadrant. And you keep studying the array to see if you can use it to get back, until some pompous goit blows it up, then you convoy with her ship back home. And just maybe you decide to stay on the planet of the 37's, to help them succeed as an interstellar civilisation, because once the neighborhood knows they're there, they are going to be invaded by not nice locals like Kazons or Vidiians. Remember the Equinox crew is all human (although that might just be the survivors by the time they encounter Voyager. I have a theory that subconsciously humans keep aliens in their crews to make the humans behave morally) Full disclaimer: I have daydreamed about what I would do after watching the Equinox episodes and then the 37's episode (I know the order, but still). Give them Federation technology, culture and history and start a Federation there (or a more suitable nearby planet that doesn't have transporter interference from surface conditions and keep this as a safe bolthole), once they have the ability to defend themselves and interstellar travel with a fleet. It would be an interesting alternative timeline if the Equinox found that planet, maybe even by themselves, limping after Voyager's warp trail after having to change course, or because they heard rumors of another Federation ship. Or they found the pickup truck first. They hide their ship in a cavern of one of the cities and start upgrading the technology of the human civilization while remaining hidden from the other local races. And once again, let the EMH make a few improvements to the genome of the human colony, not augments, but more like Julian Bashir with a strength and resilience boost as well as intelligence and coordination that he had. Less severe mods with less chance of screwing up, but an EMH doesn't make human error mistakes, and it's not unfair if everyone gets it. If they wanted to be nasty, they could sucker Kazon ships by surrendering in their own ships (maybe not the Equinox if somebody had told them about transporters) and then beaming the crew off as soon as brought inside their shields (and purging the buffers). Then upgrade the captured Klingon …sorry, Kazon ships with Federation tech and start wandering the neighborhood in disguise, building up quite a armada for the local humans. The local species don't have transporters or replicators (don't tell them about replicator technology when you first offer to trade with…oops 'JANEWAY' !!) which gives them a big advantage. While the Equinox doesn't have a holodeck fitted (or did it just get destroyed? A holodeck is very useful for a science vessel to run experiments and simulations with, and to create specialist labs on the fly, maybe it was to be installed later, on Tuesday) does it have the schematics in its database? So with that tech the civilization can progress fast and with holodecks so can training. Pretty soon on their undesirable planet that no one can scan the surface of they have a thriving civilization that is more advanced than any local power. And then they start expanding carefully and with stealthily reconning first with cloaked (and maybe retrofitted local) ships. And with the advantage that they have all of Federation history in their database so many bugs and issues have been already worked out with ready made solutions from history. And then when they encounter Vidiians they steal their medical tech and make sure (ahem) that the rest of the Vidiians don't know about them (keep them prisoner and let them die of natural causes - the phage, while getting information and advanced medical skills training from them, what did you think I meant?). They then make alliances with the local not evil races and instead of being a lonely ship struggling across a dangerous galaxy, they are the progenitors of a new beacon of light in the Delta quadrant, a beacon that is already wise in the ways of interspecies diplomacy and that also knows to hide when it encounters transwarp signatures or sees geometric ships (having disguised Kazon ships helps, the Borg consider them unworthy, apparently they think they're a cheap Klingon knock off as well). And maybe a beacon of light that is a bit less naive and more pragmatic (and ruthless, after all, Ransom's influence) that the Federation and that uses, reverse engineers and retrofits any advanced alien tech they happen to acquire. So how would you play it if you were suddenly dropped in the Delta quadrant with a Nova class science vessel ? So let this be a lesson for everyone even if you're with the biggest kid back home. If you get kidnapped and dumped in a lawless region on another continent, don't pick a fight with the local gang or warlord if you are by yourself.
Well it seemed odd to me that they had those neural gel packs, which look a lot like ice packs at room temperature and in a little IV bag, and no means to replace them. They had to basically replace the brain and nervous system of the whole ship when they started breaking down. Waiting around the array would’ve been helpful. If they could’ve found a way to be them even part of the way home it would’ve shaved years off the trip. Besides, leaving one of those tri-cobalt warheads boobytrapped with some kind of transport inhibitor and sensory package would’ve taken the array and any Kazon scavengers *out* after you’d gotten Voyage home using the array.
I think the Warp speeds are like the Rictor Scale, 9.1 is twice as fast as 9. If that's the case then the Voyager is tremendously faster than the Equinox.
Wow, another great video. I'm a super fan of ST and you, never knew about Equinox camio w Enterprise J. Great work as always. Fingers crossed on DSCO 2. At least we get new ships to check out.
Anyone notice that Harry Kim coming to stop Janeway's time travel shenanigans was very similar to the episode where Harry tries to reset time because he made a mistake and destroyed Voyager.
... Why does a ship like the nova class have anti-borg era design warp nacelles? as you pointed out, they're very similar to the ones used on the sovereign class Enterprise E. I mean, yeah, as you point out, it's from a book with an alternate defiant design, but, those nacelles were designed after 2367 for the anti-borg line of ships, but most likely in 2369/2370, after the events of the episode "Force of Nature" where it's found warp-drive actually damages subspace. unless the ship was brand new in 2371 when it was pulled into the delta quadrant, like Voyager was, it wouldn't have that nacelle design.
Apparently you don't know of the Chevy Nova of the 60's and 70's. A 2 door version could be equipped with a Chevy's 350 cubic inch engine that was so durable that they are still running them on dirt track races to this day. I had a buddy in high school that had 73 Nova with a 350 - 4 speed and it couldn't be beat. After all the Camero of the era was just a Nova with a different body on it to dress it up a bit. There were even some Big Block Chevy Nova's . And, a few specialty ones like the Yenko Nova. Great, hot cars !! Wish I had one. But, they bring big bucks these days. (In all fairness they also had a 4 door Chevy Nova in this era with a 6 cylinder engine that was a gramma grocery getter)
The design concept that ended up being Nova-class was so much better design than the Defiant. Unlike the Defiant, it actually looks like a starfleet ship design. Great video as usual.
“VOY” is written on the side of many a VHS box, along with TOS, TNG, DS9, and ENT... but of course that is for visual simplicity, not some hip linguistic abbreviation fetish. You don’t even save a syllable calling Deep Space Nine “DS9”, and “Next Gen” is better than saying “TNG.” Also, correct me if I’m wrong, but I seem to recall that in the index-less DS9 manual they finally clarified that the bridge was situated in the nose, above the deflector. That would make the otherwise correctly labeled “bridge module” something different on the Defiant class ships. I may be remembering it all backwards, and the manual showed a detachable nose with a warhead...and no bridge. Anyway, thanks for another great video!
“Using state of the art imaging technology” 😂 i.e. “Cross Dissolve” transition in iMovie. Hahaha. I love your jokes, man! They make me laugh every time. Keep up the great work!
I would have really liked a redressed defiant bridge-set on the eqinox. The Bridge module looks the same from the outside and they could define it as the base bridge module for smaller ships - on the eqinox with more science stations and less tactical.
Alien Creatures used to power a Specialized Warp Engine... hmmm, where did I hear that before? (Guess that Discovery was not the FIRST “Trek” Series to steal that idea! If you can even call Discovery a Star Trek show...)
Star trek has been stealing ideas since its earliest episodes. TOS had a habit of lifting nearly entire scripts from other genres for fucks sake, or did you forget that episode that borrowed so heavily from popular submarine movies of the time that they included the enemy locating Enterprise by sonar?
"Voy" LOL! I adore your sense of humour. You're the perfect guy to be making these videos. Not only are you an expert on the subjectmatter, but your videos are just really great fun. You could probably make videos about anything and it would still be fun! :)
There needs to be a show about the "average joe" style Starfleet vessels like the Nova class and the missions they get sent on. I can imagine a Star Trek: Nova show:
Episode 1: "The Anomaly" The Nova is sent on a mission to collect data on a strange spacial anomaly and return it to Starfleet. When arriving there, they collect data which they then return to Starfleet. Starfleet says thanks.
Episode 2: "Heal Thyself" The Nova is sent to deliver a vaccine to a plague stricken world. They deliver the vaccine and the people there start to get better.
Episode 3: "The Passenger" The Nova is visited by counsellor Troi who is to be transported to Starbase 14. Troi discovers that everyone seems in pretty good mental shape and seems fairly happy.
Episode 4: "Please Q Here" Q visits the USS Nova. He does not announce his presence. He just hangs about for a bit then leaves without causing a fuss. No one notices.
Episode 5: "New Friends" The Nova escorts an ambassador from a newly discovered alien race. They seem pretty nice but have slightly bumpy foreheads.
Episode 6: "Watch Duty" The Nova is assigned patrol duties along the Romulan neutral zone. They don't find any infractions.
Epsode 7: "Hell day part 1" Due to a malfunction the Nova replicators are unable to produce pasta dishes.
Episode 8: "Hell day part 2" The replicator system is rebooted and pasta dishes reappear on the replicators.
Episode 9: "The Aurora" Another spacial anomaly but this time it's multi-coloured.
I am laughing my ass off at this. Underappreciated.
What i hope star trek lower deck would be
That season finale sounds amazing!!!-
When you think about it, most people who enlist in Starfleet don't expect the hijinx all the ships from the shows undergo. This here is likely a day in the life of a Starfleet officer not on any 5 year missions in deep space or on stations near strategically valuable wormholes.
I would totally watch this show.
What with all the hi-jinx that happened on the Enterprise I’d have transferred to another ship after “Farpoint”
You nailed the Chevy Nova joke, but missed out on the obvious Chevy Equinox joke!
OMG, yes! I rented one of those on a trip. The driver side vent was stuck and aimed directly at my knee. Annoying as 💩
Mike DeMarco there’s an old beige Reliant in my neighborhood, I want it so I can replace the chrome luggage rack on the trunk with a Miranda roll bar!
Depends what year of Chevy Nova some of the 1960s and 1970s ones were pretty fast.
Mike DeMarco psst cat manufacturers might be naming cars after Star Trek ships.
I wonder if there was a U.S.S. Pinto that exploded every time a shuttle landed in the rear?
I do love the look of this little ship.
Me too. I always liked the Nova Class.
I liked that Episode. It was cool to watch how Janeway began to panic (she acted more aggressive, but thats how people hide their panic) at the sight of a Starfleet captain who crossed a moral line in order to get home quicker. It seemed that she was having a battle in her own mind of whether or not she could be pushed to cross the same line, and how very angry she was with Captain Ransom for doing what he did. It was also great to see how easily she forgave Ransom after she saw him trying to do the right thing in the end. I would rank "Equinox" high on my list of top Voyager Episodes.
She crossed the Moral line many times to get home quicker but its ok since the show plot armour says she can.
pepperVenge I totally agree with you. This is high on my list of favorite Star Trek episodes. The moral line that shines so brightly when you are clean and rested and fed gets dimmer and dimmer the worse your situation becomes. I always loved this episode understood that that was true but still drew the line against murder and was not afraid to call Ransom out. But it was also in many ways the end of Janeway’s Captain Ahab era. After this episode she became much less dogmatic in her quest to get home at any cost.
Exactly this. She had still doubts if she should have destroyed the Catretaker array andd the fact that some Starfleet captain choosed the other option made her really insecure
I just now connected the dots that The Cerritos' first officer Jack Ransom has the same name. Wonder if it's just coincidence or they meant to make them related? Would be an interesting added depth for him to Exquinox Ransom's son or nephew.
@@duncananderson6333this is a great point!
The Equinox is a small but pretty ship.
Me too!
Resurrected Starships you are a small but pretty ship?
Eh🤷♂️. Who am I to judge, but that acronym just keeps getting longer! LGBTQ and now S!
@@DrewLSsix I am part of LGBTQ...S community - I identify as a pretty ship!
I said the same about Kes....then fell in love with 7of9.
@@resurrectedstarships 💟
IMO they missed a great opportunity to have Equinox survive without harming the aliens and joining Voyager on her way back home. The interaction between the crews and ships would have made great stories.
It would have made a better story arc than that Kazon bullshit
While not exactly applicable I think that having the equinox as a support craft could’ve been used in some of the episodes and roles that the delta flyer did, insofar as “smaller vessel that can go on external missions from voyager for a purpose” is the role of the delta flyer, then again maybe they (diegetically, I recognize the out of universe reasons) could’ve just fixed up their aeroshuttle instead of making the delta flyer, or even modified said aeroshuttle to make the delta flyer and called that the delta flyer.
Though I do think that the fact that the equinox is so much slower than voyager is a big problem that could hamper their journey, though they could probably (mostly) overcome that problem with their federation ingenuity. Directly docking their vessels together or at least connecting their warp bubbles, maybe? Something I’ve noticed is that starfleet vessels don’t really seem to be designed with fleet actions in mind. They can do fleet actions, but from a ground up perspective they seem to be designed first and foremost for solitary mission profiles with the fleets, squads, wings and whatever else being an afterthought.
I wonder what the full story of Equinox would have looked like as a series. Not likely to happen, I know. But what would be really cool? A series or least an episode or storyline where Marla Gilmore (the most redeemed of the Equinox crowd) captains her own ship!
Doubt they had the budget for a whole different crew to hang around
Or just have the equinox survive for one season and have its destruction as the season climax.
Ah, the Nova class, my all-time favorite starship design. It's a thing of beauty.
Happy to see others sharing that view, the Equinox episodes and that ship design have stuck with me ever since they originally aired. Such a lovely ship design which I wish we'd see more of. Hope it'll get a chance on that new Picard show.
@@fisk0 When I started playing Star Trek: Online, my goal was to reach the rank of admiral with a Nova class as my flagship.
@@inferiorexterior9335 I'm still after one myself.
I completely agree.
I personally prefer the sovereign out of the two, but they are visually pretty similar
Haha, I never noticed how many rocks explode out of Starship computer consoles.
Surf Trektronics It’s actually burning or burnt cork.
@@DLordSadow Right the crew stashes all their whine bottles behind the consoles in cork cases, so instant exploding tree foam shrapnel projectiles everywhere.
Surf Trektronics I was referring to what they use on the sets for debris. It’s lightweight, soft, and you can set it on fire without burning down the set. Now, whether it’s the most convincing looking material to simulate flying debris on a spaceship bridge is debatable.
@@DLordSadow Yes I was just going with the joke. Likely limited budgets made them keep the cork debris instead of replacing with broken electronic things.
Well, semi-conductors are made of processed and purified sand, so...
Do you know WHY we love this channel?....of all the things we deal with in life .......Yours is JUST PLAIN FUN!!!!!!
I tune in for the rocks >.> XD
Agree - lots of Trek channels out there, but this one is by far the most fun. *cut to Tuvok laughing*
The Nova class deserved better than to be an under-powered science vessel, it's almost as pretty as the Akira class.
Crunchy Chips eh, it just needs its own area to shine.
I’m STILL waiting for the trek show about a small scrappy ship and crew, why does every show need to be about the best new ship and the cream of the fleet crewmen?
There was a novel series about a small ship and its crew that would be perfect as a template.
I would have loved to see Alpha Canon of the Akira as a carrier with a through and through fighter deck. Lore Reloaded talked about the ineffectiveness in general of Trek Fighters, but aside for the Games, would be nice to see a carrier.
Drew, that was DS9. A crappy space station in orbit of Planet Shithole. A captain who was a broken man, after his ship, crew, and wife got exploded by the Borg, who went on to start a war and was an accessory to murder. A science officer who got implanted with the memories of an old dude and began gambling with Ferengi and pillaging with Klingons. An engineer who was just some racist guy who was good at killing Cardies and fixing stuff, so they slapped a uniform on him and called him chief. A doctor who was fresh out of the academy and an arse, who later turned out to be Khan Jr. A security officer with zero people skills who could play dirty. An executive officer who was a former terrorist and general bitch. A barman who was a conman and ran a holo-brothel.
@@DrewLSsix Or even official Federation ? Firefly or Dark Matter set in the Trek verse. With some secret or crime hanging over them so they can't just run to Starfleet for help if things get rough.
An interesting twist, the Mirror universe, so the Federation is something you avoid or it's post Federation collapse. The protagonist can be either native to the universe or just some regular ship from the Prime universe that got sucked in and are stuck and don't know how to get back.
@@crunchychips8123 And a tailor who was also a tinker, a soldier and a spy.
Plus a commander who was a absentee single father of a special needs boy he stuck in the Klingon military.
I love your videos, ROCK ON! ...sorry.
Phaelous you keep appearing out of nowhere in so much other stuff I love it. Also I just love your content. Been a fan for a while
You meant ROCKS on. Right?
That was… not funny
I also get a lot of rocks when I take a damage.
One damage = 1d10 rocks
THAT'S A LOT OF DAMAGE!
Cut down your sodium intake and increase calcium from food. If it reduces your risk of stones forming it should also work on rocks.
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NotQuiteSurprisedAtAll I doubt that’s happening in your mother’s basement.
I assumed the "rocks" are actually the pieces of an extruded or molded foam / polymer that skins the consoles.
theNewBee Reviews I like to think its a coating used to absorb heat or radiation. Like the fire proofing used in buildings.
Ship gets hit, radiation surges through the hull, and the film reacts to it absorbs that energy by expanding into chunks of harmless debris. You can see just how light they are in many shots.... almost as if they were some kind of foam🤭
Foam wouldn't look like that unless it was crumbly old Great Stuff.
@@GoatZilla Who said Starfleet never goes with the lowest bidding contractor?
@@DrewLSsix Except it's not harmless. Remember in Yesterday's Enterprise when Garrett and Riker died from exploding debris? Or random crew members that get hurt from exploding consoles?
It’s burnt cork. When you see things ‘explode’ on set, the debris or ‘rocks’ as we like to refer to them are burning cork.
Your humor is my cup of tea. Even though I don’t drink tea. I didn’t make up the expression. Look I’m just sayin I think we could be friends or something.
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Derek Ortiz like an androids bottom!
The Nova class was also designed to be a replacement for the Oberth class.
So, it could have been much much weaker....
A shuttlepod is probably better armed than an Oberth :D
It looks much stronger than Oberth
They forgot to make it out of explodium.
I do like this ship, its got a nice little smart design. The actor who played the captain of the USS Equinox he was in the classic film The Deer Hunter with Rob Ne Niro and Christopher Walken.
I love the Nova class. Such a compact, nifty ship.
I love your videos because they're both incredibly detailed but also very funny and self-depreciating. Your sense of humor makes these a treat to watch!
You're my favorite star trek channel
I always couldn't help but notice that the Equinox crew's uniforms should have been TNG style, not Voyager style as they were pulled into the Delta Quadrant during the years when TNG was still taking place.
That bugged me too.
Comparable to a utility jumpsuit, the uniform was first used aboard space stations before eventually coming into service aboard starships in 2371, beginning with the USS Defiant, USS Enterprise-D, USS Voyager, and the USS Equinox.
From memory alpha.
If Equinox vanished from the Alpha Quadrant during DS9 season 1... that would put it in the Deltra Quadrant over 2 years before Voyager & still have the crew in the DS9/Voyager uniforms.
@@varianschirmer9375 If that's when they did. But I learned since this comment that Equinox was pulled to the Delta quadrant mere months before Voyager was.
So the uniforms are consistent...
See little Nova class it's actually my favorite Starship thank you for doing a review
Equinox was one of those few Voyager episodes I really enjoyed. It kind of felt like Voy's (to use a term I recently heard coined) mirror universe episode, showing us what the crew could've been reduced to if they were more willing to cross lines to survive.
This is the only channel on youtube that can take something as mundane as, say, a ships floor panelling and make an entire episode out of it, and make it deeply interesting, and hilarious.
This might just be the best Star Trek channel out there.
NEW JUNKBALL = HAPPY FRIDAY
I wish I had enough money to just have him churn these out. In my top 5 fav channels
I've always liked the little ships. Makes a lot of sense having small ships dedicated to a specific role, while the larger vessels are for long range multi-role missions.
One of my favourite ST ships
The "rock bit" never gets old.
This is my favorite class of Starfleet vessel, thanks for doing a video on it.
I like the design of the nova class
that tuvok laugh clip is always my fav part of your vids
Smashed that like button for that closing scene ahahha
I always love the design and the 2 parter...wish they did a follow up with the surviving crew of the Equinox before the series ended, but alas:(
As punishment they were put on repair detail in the lower decks handling waste reclamators and other menial task like cleaning conduits.
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This was my 3rd ship in Star Trek online because it was pretty neat
I just stumbled upon your videos, but man I gotta say that I love your sense of humor and presentation style! I'll definitely be watching them all and subscribing :)
Such a beautiful pretty ship
Equinox is probably one of my favorite Star Trek ships. (The nova class I suppose)
I love this little class of ship, especially in refit guise of the Rhode Island. Where the Orberth was basically a three wheeled horse drawn buggy, this at least had a fourth wheel and an engine lol. I always though in my mind this was a very durable tough little ship designed to survive in the less peaceful era of DS9/VOY.
Great rundown on the class as usual, not as brutal towards it like you can be in other videos. Kind of glad the Nova managed to remain on the Master's good side ;-)
I really liked this ship design
My not so guilty pleasure is to rewatch all of Junkball's videos. So damn entertaining...
DON'T STOP, JB! Ever!!!!
I have a model of the Equinox. Very nice ship!
Final appearance not worth mentioning? Um excuse me that sphere builder battle and Enterprise J reveal was the whole reason ST ENT went on to have like 4 more seasons and a couple movies made and totally revived he franchise
M Duffy You must be thinking of another outcome of the temporal Cold War, easy mistake, there’s literally an infinite number of them🤷♂️
Great review of a fantastic ship class!
Every episode I watch I'll never be able to un-see the ROCKS, ROCKS, ROCKS now !
I like the "no-neck" designs of the 90s! Bring em back!
This may be my favorite star ship design. I like the pointy edges and corners. A very sleek look. In the early 2000s, there was a great game (great due to the modding community) called Star Trek: Bridge Commander. A modder created this ship and it was my favorite to use due to it's look. I had no idea that the canon version was so small.
I am really enjoying these Junkball videos!
HAHA! This was such a good episode! I will never unsee the rocks from explosion scenes now! Tnx for that... i guess.
Shod have used the footage from the episode instead of the model, that way it could stand as a record of the cg, resolution and texture work.
Slightly off topic, but Ransom was an idiot to get in that situation to begin with, he (and his crew) had other options when they first got stuck in the Delta Quadrant.
What would you do if you were Captain Ransom when the Equinox first got sucked through by the Array? Discuss in this thread, and may I suggest a video on this topic, but anyway, on with my rant.
He decided to pick a unnecessary fight with an alien amarda with his itty bitty little science vessel right off the bat, wiping out half his crew and trashing his ship, just to take a slight shortcut on a journey of more than a century (the Equinox having a slower speed than Voyager's 70 year estimate), relying on the authority of the Federation they had never heard of to intimidate them.
He instead should have nicely asked for the borders of their territory so as to not violate it and requested any information they were willing to share regarding surrounding species. Most paranoid races are willing to bad mouth their neighbors, which gives you a start.
Add a cloak to your ship, Starfleet may not use them because of treaty, but they would know how they work and could build a passable one. Also apparently the design schematic and replicator patterns are in the computer, to be unlocked in flight, by Fleet wide order if the Romulan war ever turned hot. A little bit of hacking and their ship is invisible. After all, no one is going to report you for any treaty violations.
And if you want to violate Federation regulations and delete your EMH's ethical subroutines, get it to genetically upgrade your crew like Dr Julian Bashir was as a child - Starfleet tech can alter your genes as an adult, and even as a hyper evolved amphibian.
What's the smartest thing to do however is keep a low profile and hang around the Array, to see who else comes through, maybe another Federation ship, maybe someone with information about regions on the way back, or who can be allies, so you form your own Federation in the Delta quadrant.
And you keep studying the array to see if you can use it to get back, until some pompous goit blows it up, then you convoy with her ship back home.
And just maybe you decide to stay on the planet of the 37's, to help them succeed as an interstellar civilisation, because once the neighborhood knows they're there, they are going to be invaded by not nice locals like Kazons or Vidiians. Remember the Equinox crew is all human (although that might just be the survivors by the time they encounter Voyager. I have a theory that subconsciously humans keep aliens in their crews to make the humans behave morally)
Full disclaimer: I have daydreamed about what I would do after watching the Equinox episodes and then the 37's episode (I know the order, but still).
Give them Federation technology, culture and history and start a Federation there (or a more suitable nearby planet that doesn't have transporter interference from surface conditions and keep this as a safe bolthole), once they have the ability to defend themselves and interstellar travel with a fleet. It would be an interesting alternative timeline if the Equinox found that planet, maybe even by themselves, limping after Voyager's warp trail after having to change course, or because they heard rumors of another Federation ship. Or they found the pickup truck first. They hide their ship in a cavern of one of the cities and start upgrading the technology of the human civilization while remaining hidden from the other local races.
And once again, let the EMH make a few improvements to the genome of the human colony, not augments, but more like Julian Bashir with a strength and resilience boost as well as intelligence and coordination that he had. Less severe mods with less chance of screwing up, but an EMH doesn't make human error mistakes, and it's not unfair if everyone gets it.
If they wanted to be nasty, they could sucker Kazon ships by surrendering in their own ships (maybe not the Equinox if somebody had told them about transporters) and then beaming the crew off as soon as brought inside their shields (and purging the buffers). Then upgrade the captured Klingon …sorry, Kazon ships with Federation tech and start wandering the neighborhood in disguise, building up quite a armada for the local humans. The local species don't have transporters or replicators (don't tell them about replicator technology when you first offer to trade with…oops 'JANEWAY' !!) which gives them a big advantage.
While the Equinox doesn't have a holodeck fitted (or did it just get destroyed? A holodeck is very useful for a science vessel to run experiments and simulations with, and to create specialist labs on the fly, maybe it was to be installed later, on Tuesday) does it have the schematics in its database?
So with that tech the civilization can progress fast and with holodecks so can training. Pretty soon on their undesirable planet that no one can scan the surface of they have a thriving civilization that is more advanced than any local power.
And then they start expanding carefully and with stealthily reconning first with cloaked (and maybe retrofitted local) ships. And with the advantage that they have all of Federation history in their database so many bugs and issues have been already worked out with ready made solutions from history.
And then when they encounter Vidiians they steal their medical tech and make sure (ahem) that the rest of the Vidiians don't know about them (keep them prisoner and let them die of natural causes - the phage, while getting information and advanced medical skills training from them, what did you think I meant?).
They then make alliances with the local not evil races and instead of being a lonely ship struggling across a dangerous galaxy, they are the progenitors of a new beacon of light in the Delta quadrant, a beacon that is already wise in the ways of interspecies diplomacy and that also knows to hide when it encounters transwarp signatures or sees geometric ships (having disguised Kazon ships helps, the Borg consider them unworthy, apparently they think they're a cheap Klingon knock off as well).
And maybe a beacon of light that is a bit less naive and more pragmatic (and ruthless, after all, Ransom's influence) that the Federation and that uses, reverse engineers and retrofits any advanced alien tech they happen to acquire.
So how would you play it if you were suddenly dropped in the Delta quadrant with a Nova class science vessel ?
So let this be a lesson for everyone even if you're with the biggest kid back home. If you get kidnapped and dumped in a lawless region on another continent, don't pick a fight with the local gang or warlord if you are by yourself.
Captain Ransom. I guess he kinda held his crew to...
I never thought of that, The Equinox or Voyager having cloaking technology. Would have made both their journies a lot easier.
Well it seemed odd to me that they had those neural gel packs, which look a lot like ice packs at room temperature and in a little IV bag, and no means to replace them. They had to basically replace the brain and nervous system of the whole ship when they started breaking down.
Waiting around the array would’ve been helpful. If they could’ve found a way to be them even part of the way home it would’ve shaved years off the trip. Besides, leaving one of those tri-cobalt warheads boobytrapped with some kind of transport inhibitor and sensory package would’ve taken the array and any Kazon scavengers *out* after you’d gotten Voyage home using the array.
I think the Warp speeds are like the Rictor Scale, 9.1 is twice as fast as 9.
If that's the case then the Voyager is tremendously faster than the Equinox.
Andrew Suttmeier huge energy drain though
Half expected a V'Ger joke at the VOY thing, but good stuff.
Agreed, Vger is the correct abbreviation 😀
I love the Nova/Equinox design. Angular and the the dart shaped and the size of the deflector dish gives it a nice sense of scale.
You know, what I like most by your videos? The great use of 80s synthpop hits like Messages from OMD.
Wow, another great video. I'm a super fan of ST and you, never knew about Equinox camio w Enterprise J. Great work as always. Fingers crossed on DSCO 2. At least we get new ships to check out.
Stop swearing!
Anyone notice that Harry Kim coming to stop Janeway's time travel shenanigans was very similar to the episode where Harry tries to reset time because he made a mistake and destroyed Voyager.
Yep, all the best Kim character developnent never actually happened dye to timeline shenanigans, poor Harry Kim 😢
... Why does a ship like the nova class have anti-borg era design warp nacelles? as you pointed out, they're very similar to the ones used on the sovereign class Enterprise E.
I mean, yeah, as you point out, it's from a book with an alternate defiant design, but, those nacelles were designed after 2367 for the anti-borg line of ships, but most likely in 2369/2370, after the events of the episode "Force of Nature" where it's found warp-drive actually damages subspace. unless the ship was brand new in 2371 when it was pulled into the delta quadrant, like Voyager was, it wouldn't have that nacelle design.
Rocks are a well known by product of the expodium that Starfleet consoles and bulkheads are made from.
Apparently you don't know of the Chevy Nova of the 60's and 70's. A 2 door version could be equipped with a Chevy's 350 cubic inch engine that was so durable that they are still running them on dirt track races to this day. I had a buddy in high school that had 73 Nova with a 350 - 4 speed and it couldn't be beat. After all the Camero of the era was just a Nova with a different body on it to dress it up a bit. There were even some Big Block Chevy Nova's . And, a few specialty ones like the Yenko Nova. Great, hot cars !! Wish I had one. But, they bring big bucks these days. (In all fairness they also had a 4 door Chevy Nova in this era with a 6 cylinder engine that was a gramma grocery getter)
Whenever Magic Fly pops in my head, I think of your channel
I can't unsee the two deflectors... Whyyy
This is my absolute favorite show. Informative and fun.
One of the few (only) star trek channels that entertains instead of bores to death.
Thanks. I’m a distant 4th or 5th for Trek channels but I’m still honored anyone watches these at all.
The Equinox is a great little Starship
You're a great little starship.
@@DadaPoopoo Thanks
Little?
Tough little ship.
@@Scripture-Man Yeh it is
Loved your video
I love the design of the Equinox. A beefed up combat version would have been cool.
I think its funny you pick on chevy nova. Considering the 68 nova was one of the best muscle cars ever designed
Dear Mr. Junk, thank you for always managing to crack me up. You, sir, are excellent.
These ship model history and examination videos are awesome!
I can't suspend my disbelief enough to believe Harry Kim ever made captain. He retired as Ensign.
ROCKS!!! Take a drink.
I love the voyager era ships, Prometheus, nova, intrepid, (dauntless) etc
I always read VOY but I've never heard someone say it out loud. The calmness you used saying it made it sound hilarious.
The design concept that ended up being Nova-class was so much better design than the Defiant. Unlike the Defiant, it actually looks like a starfleet ship design. Great video as usual.
Well that "Infinity Stone" comes standard, if only they could have used it. Lol
It's the Space Stone as well. They could have used it to teleport out of the Delta Quadrant.
pure gold
The hull of Starships are lined with rocks.
My favorite Star Trek ship. Bring back good Star Trek!
A true destroyer class. Nice n compact.
Great docco! And kudos to Rick and others for a timeless design.
The dorsal top shot design is also Excelsior...
Your vídeos introduced me to the spacesynth music you put in your videos, and now it’s my favorite music genre!
Yeah, that whole genre is a treasure trove of synthy goodness.
I like this guy, but you already knew that
“VOY” is written on the side of many a VHS box, along with TOS, TNG, DS9, and ENT... but of course that is for visual simplicity, not some hip linguistic abbreviation fetish. You don’t even save a syllable calling Deep Space Nine “DS9”, and “Next Gen” is better than saying “TNG.”
Also, correct me if I’m wrong, but I seem to recall that in the index-less DS9 manual they finally clarified that the bridge was situated in the nose, above the deflector. That would make the otherwise correctly labeled “bridge module” something different on the Defiant class ships. I may be remembering it all backwards, and the manual showed a detachable nose with a warhead...and no bridge.
Anyway, thanks for another great video!
This is probably going to sound kind of weird, but I worked in a Halloween City once or twice and your background music was played there
Yup. Weird.
“Using state of the art imaging technology” 😂 i.e. “Cross Dissolve” transition in iMovie. Hahaha. I love your jokes, man! They make me laugh every time. Keep up the great work!
The Equinox is still one of my favorite Star Trek ships I like it better than the Intrepid class
I love your puns and whimsy clips added on right after, theyre refreshing!
Liked and subbed 70 light years ago ;)
I appreciate it. Thanks, dude.
Flew this ship for a long time back when playing Star Trek Online. One of my favourites :)
Love the humour in these videos.
I love the humour in these videos.
I would have really liked a redressed defiant bridge-set on the eqinox. The Bridge module looks the same from the outside and they could define it as the base bridge module for smaller ships - on the eqinox with more science stations and less tactical.
Every ship in starfleet and alien ships have rocks inside station panels.
Frigging love you videos. Resistance is futile, kapplah, earl grey, hot etc.
The equinox showed the voyager crew that no matter how bad you think you’ve got it there always somebody worse of than you.
Love your videos dude
Look forward to them!!!!
I think there models of all these ships in star trek online. I love this look i never really got the circle shape.
I like the Equinox. A small compact Starship. Looks like fun!
Alien Creatures used to power a Specialized Warp Engine... hmmm, where did I hear that before? (Guess that Discovery was not the FIRST “Trek” Series to steal that idea! If you can even call Discovery a Star Trek show...)
STD is NOT Star Trek. It's science fiction but that's about all
Star trek has been stealing ideas since its earliest episodes. TOS had a habit of lifting nearly entire scripts from other genres for fucks sake, or did you forget that episode that borrowed so heavily from popular submarine movies of the time that they included the enemy locating Enterprise by sonar?
@@DrewLSsix Shhhhh, don't try to reason with them.
7:22 Star Trek Lower Decks made 'VOY' Canon! S02E03 'We'll always have Tom Paris'..
'Wow, that is easier to say' -Mariner
Dude I've only watched a couple of your videos recently but both times you've had me in tears 😂 awesome music and......rockkkksssssss
"Voy" LOL! I adore your sense of humour. You're the perfect guy to be making these videos. Not only are you an expert on the subjectmatter, but your videos are just really great fun. You could probably make videos about anything and it would still be fun! :)