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- In this video I upgrade to Bilstein B8 5100 Rear Shock Absorbers for AT4 & Trailboss (24-309516) Installed with existing Air Lift Load Leveling Bags
Install boot up or down?
The Bilstein label on the shock body should be upright in the correct orientation. If your shocks have been installed with the stickers on upside down they should be flipped the other way.
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I have a 2021 Sierra SLT 4x4 not x31i want to level it front and back and be able to put 33's on it. What do all I need from bilstein
I suggest going to their website and inputting your vehicle information for a list of compatible products. Mine are specifically for an AT4 and Trailboss
Had these all around on my last truck and loved them!
I have always had good luck with these shocks. I have had them on my last 4 trucks(GM & Toyota). I will be putting them on my new 2022 GMC Sierra very soon front and rear.
I put the 5100’s front and back on my new 22 AT4. Love the ride and still have a 1” rake which I like for towing
I put these on my 2012 Silverado Z71. Leveled out the front, and added a little stiffness to the rear when towing the camper. I have over a 100,000 miles on them, they still feel like the day I put them on. If I can ever find an RST with max tow, I'll put them on that truck too.
I put the Hellwig helper springs on the back of my Silverado and it only works when towing and I must say it really works. My truck drives the same down the road as it did without them and I feel a great improvement when towing my camper. When you put a load on the back they start to work.
I replaced OEM shocks and struts on my 2017 Ram 1500 with Bilstein 5100 and I wasn’t impressed at all. The idea was to do levelling at some point since these (front) are hight adjustable and install 35s one day. Since I still had my original tires I kept it at the factory setting-no lift. I was expecting to have the same ride quality as OEM shocks. What I got instead was a stiffer ride especially in the front and that’s about it. Two years later I had a strut rod go through a strut mount on driver side which caused problems removing it because a spring had to be cut. They also had a lot of surface rust on them for being just two years on this truck. The OEM ones didn’t have that much surface rust.
Aside from having that option of adjusting hight and being able to level it you are not getting anything out of Bilstein 5100 and I’m not exaggerating. At least this is what I got on my truck. The OEM shocks are better tuned for the size and the weight of Ram 1500 truck. This is my opinion.
I ended up getting a pair of Rancho RS 9000 XL 2.5” strut set with springs and strut mounts and ability to adjust my ride comfort by using a valve (1-9 setting) that comes with shocks. Setting one being the softest and 9 being firmest.
Waaaay better option and waaay better ride quality. I’m currently on setting 5 and it feels like I’m riding on OEM. I’ll try it at setting 3 to see if it makes any difference.
Rear shocks are still Bilstein 5100 and I can tell the difference. I think I’ll be replacing these with RS 9000 XL as well probably and having them dialled at setting 5 or 7 depending on a load.
Some trucks come from the factory with Rancho shocks HOWEVER they are not the same as Rancho RS 9000 XL. They are valved differently! GM trucks are not really known for the “Cadillac” ride quality so that’s why they installed these soft - bouncy shocks to compensate for a stiff ride.
The aftermarket RS 9000 XL come with a valve that you can adjust yourself depending on what you want out of them.
Bilstein 5100 might be good for you but I wasn’t impressed at all. They didn’t give me anything more than OEM gave me in the first place.
Thanks for this video, I see how easy it is going to be to change these shocks.
I have a 2022 Sierra 1500 LTD with Rancho shocks and they suck on the highway! Especially going over bridge decks! Always hopping to the left or right - mainly the right -
Can't wait to see more!
Cheers from Alberta!
Thanks for checking out the video ✌🏼
Have these on my f250, absolutely helped to cure my Ford Death Rattle which is a big issue with Ford 250-350. Will upgrade my at4 if it ever gets built!!
Man, your truck looks mint. 👌 I just throw some metal sheets in the back of my bed. She holds the road pretty well. There are lots of highway driving in ont. I'll wait til spring upgrade, same as your truck.
These are the exact same shocks/struts combo I have on mine (no air bags, tho). When I did the rears (first) the "jelly butt" feel with axle hop and jitter was reduced big time. Less jarring, slightly firmer, but the overall the feel is smoother with more control. In the cold they are stiffer...but, after driving they smooth out. FWIW - Bilstein is pronounced "Bill Stine". So, many say "Bill Steen" which is wrong. I called the company to verify it when a commenter on my channel decided to stir up some drama -- he prob still lives with his mom and pee's the bed. Hahaa! Anyways, great video...these are premium shocks and def an upgrade to those weak Ranchos. Nice work.
Thanks! I remember we had talked about you upgrading yours awhile back too. Einstein and Bilstein should sound rhyme. Wait! You get unnecessary drama in your comments too?
I added both front and back B 5100s and leveled on my GMC 2024 2500 Ultimate. I also added Mickey Thomson Legend EXP tires, 295/65/20
It drives smooth but now it seems to float around on the road and the steering is much more “Loose.”
Didn’t do that when it was stock, especially on the highway. Has 700 miles on it
Any recommendations?
@@ericmerriman1055probably tires, shocks won’t cause this.
On my 2022 GMC 2500 Denali Duramax I went with the Bilstein 5100 great improvement on the ride.
I put Ranchero 9500 on.There adjustable and real nice ride.I also have air bags on rear.
Just did the same replacement on my TB and a huge upgrade.
I agree! Thanks for watching the video
@@Donslife love your videos.
Thank you for the video. Very informative. I’ve been doing a lot of research on these shocks.
Many love them for the reasonable cost
I did the 6112 and 5160 on my RST. Does a much better job controlling the bobbing when loaded heavy/towing.
I'm reading so many mixed reviews on these. Some say too firm and uncomfortable others love them.
Love this channel. Getting caught up on all the mods. Think I found my long lost brother! Scary how similar we are!!
Just got a Sierra HD and looking forward to some select upgrades I’ve seen in your channel. This one especially!!
Welcome aboard! So many things to see!
When I ditched my Ranchos I could immediately tell the difference! No more hop and also my truck loves me for replacing them haha now it doesn't care when I hit speed bumps going fast
just rears or fronts too?
@@Corkoth55 I replaced both the front and rear..have adjustable in the front though
Changed out those junk Rancho’s at 2500 miles, and 3 of them were stuck in the compressed position when removed. I installed Icon 2.5’s. Never been happier, for a somewhat reasonable price.
Ya pretty much everyone I have spoke to is not happy with the stock ones
I put these on my 2022 trail boss because of your video, and I also just put these on my brand new 2024 Silverado HD LTZ And oh my god what an amazing difference three-quarter ton truck rides better than my half ton,
Amazing! Thank you for sharing your experience here!
Thanks for the video! I ordered these but haven’t put them on my 22 RST yet. Waiting till the Ranchos die first.
Even alive and well, there is a difference 😃
I put the Fox 2.0 on my 2021 Silverado 1500 4x4… which solve the towing ride issues that I had.
Man I thought you been there at that upgrade I could have sworn I watched one of your videos on them shocks before I did the upgrade on my truck
I was a little late on that one 😊
I put the 5160s on the rear of my new to me ‘19 AT4 and noticed a huge improvement from the bucking bronco. Now I’m noticing the front rolling around waiting on 6112s for the front. You’re definitely right about the price tho. I kinda wish I just would’ve gone with 5100s all the way around for my use/ price difference. But love them anyway!
Thanks for checking out the video✌🏼
Keep watching these videos even tho my Sierra is in the shop for the 2nd time in 6 months of ownership for lifter failure 🤦♂️. Should've got the 2.7L honestly. At least I'd get decent gas mileage and reliability.
I actually much prefer the ride of the RS5000x. I found the Bilstein 5100 set to be too "bouncy". I like that in my women. I do not like that in my truck. The Ranchos are much more settled and a tighter ride control. So, IMHO the B5100 are not better than RS5000x. That said, any new shock is better than any old worn out shock. Remember, a shock does not have to be leaking to be worn out. Over time the oil shears and the internal valves errode - leading to loose shock.
I upgraded my Ford F-150 factory shocks with rancho and the right one blew out after about a year and the only trailer that I pull only has a tongue weight of about 350 lb. And no real off-roading. AutoZone did warranty them for me so that was nice I'll see how long they last now. I went ahead and put airbags on just to help level out while I am towing.
I upgrade my rear to those same shocks on my 2019 Sierra and it was a huge improvement because it stopped the feeling of the the wheel hop or the bounce feeling over bumps at highway speeds.
I just can't wait to replace my front ones like you did.
I find it is a better truck overall now
@@Donslife thank you for all your videos. I enjoy the mods and how much detail you give about them!!!
Thank you sir
You didn't get pulled over - BRAVO! lol
😂 For once!
Nice vid! Are you compressing the shocks a few times before installing? Or is that not necessary? Thinking of replacing the stock ranchos on my 2018 silverado ltz with about 66k miles. Not a necessary upgrade right now as i think they work fine, but might consider the bilsteins
I put the 5100’s on my ‘21 LT non-TB because I didn’t like the seesaw effect it exhibited on speed bumps, even when loaded. Was even worse when towing my families travel trailer. I also added the RAS and it was definitely the right move. 5100’s are highly recommended.
I have a 21 Silverado Z71, I want to upgrade my shocks as well. I have a leveling kit installed in the front, which is just a spacer under on the lower shock mount. I want to
Do these as well. Thanks for the info.
Lol I’m in deep trouble My wife is going to kill me lol ✌️🇨🇦
Decided to put these on my Sierra partially based on your video so really appreciate you uploading videos like this one! Quick question, I am assuming these did not drop your towing capacity or bed payload? I ready some shocks can cause those numbers to go down. Based on what I could find it did not seem like these would change the capacity, just wanted to confirm if you found anything.
I hear eibach pro trucks are smoother than bilstein!
I wish more people can review them as well
At4 would look sick with some tow mirrors
Funny you should bring that up. Something is coming up that you might find interesting.
Man I ordered the full 4 set and the supplier told me it’s 8 weeks due to supply chain issues. I’m in no hurry so I kept the order. I’m really looking forward to the front adjustable to get it back up after putting on the front bumper/ brush guard and winch and mounting a highlift Jack.
I waited months for the fronts but it was worth it
Around 5k on my 21' there was a guy tailing me and flashing his lights. Pulled over and he tells me my back driver side shock (roachos) is bad. Sure enough dealer was doubtful until they pulled it off. Barely any spring or recoil too it. Im beginning to think theres another one up front thats on its way out.
So over like road bumps and potholes are these shocks smoother or stiffer ride feeling than stock?
Always torque the nut when accessible. Just sharing some knowledge.
he did
I have a 21 Sierra with the factory installed Ranchos, which have a lot of bounce over speed bumps and such. Do the Bilsteins fix this problem?
👍🏻
You would figure 100k truck. You should already have this.
Keeps the aftermarket busy I guess 🤷🏻♂️
I need! Where did you buy them?
Are you able to do anything to the under carriage to circumvent rust in Canada? Great video btw.
You can. I didn’t since we don’t often salt the roads where I live. It gets too cold for salt to be effective. We use sand. There is a healthy wax barrier on my frame right from the factory, but some shops do offer an oily spray as an extra barrier. You can probably find someone in your area. Some go the extra mile and get their product into the drainage channels inside your door cavities too. Sorry I don’t have a recommendation to use
Maintenance 101: loosen the nut, not the bolt head. Torque will be more accurate too.
Yes 🫡
Good stuff. Thank you. How does the Bilstein do with towing? Would a loaded trailer sink the rear end a lot or does the shock stay firm ?
I would love to tell you about any sinking with a loaded trailer, but since I have air bags too, I am the wrong person to ask. The ride over medium sized bumps and steep angle changes is a noticeable improvement.
Thanks for the great video, Don! I drive a ‘23 Yukon XL AT4 with factory air-ride; an amalgamation of your two trucks. Would you recommend the same shocks for my Yuke?
Thank you. I would say that the quality difference is noticeable and won’t break the bank. If you only drive on very smooth roads, the difference may not be as apparent. Where I live, we put our suspensions to work and not always by choice
@@Donslife Thank you.
Does the at4 come with a 2” rear block from the factory, putting these on my elevation this week along with 5100 in the fronts
Yes the rear has 2" blocks from the factory. The fronts have longer CV axles and strut assemblies
Hi Don! Interested to know how this upgrade affected the ride height/level on truck? I recall when you put the height adjustables on the front, the truck leveled out well. Did the rears bring the back up again?
I didn’t experience a noticeable change to the height in there rear. The airbags at minimal 5lbs of pressure is still enough to hold the back end up a little.
I will be putting Bilstein 6112 in front and 5160 in rear.
When ever you can try to unscrewing the nut not the bolt, I know it’s not a old rusty bolt. Just a better idea I promise
Yes
Gm has been using billstein since my 1996 s10 idk why the hell thry changed it
Do you know what muffler they put on that truck to give the exhaust a nice tone like that? I'm also watching the video cuz I just ordered some Bilstein shocks too just trying to get some ideas. Thanks
Here is the video for my exhaust:
BORLA S-Type Cat Back Dual Exhaust Install Review 2019 - 2023 GMC Sierra Chevy Silverado 6.2L
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Did you upgrade the UCA when you did the front? Thanks
Not yet. Eventually, the stock ones look weak, but these specific shocks keep the CV angles and ball joints in a safe range
Does this truck have magna Ride? as if it doid wouldn't that prohibit the standard shocks... and interfere with that system?
No the AT4 and Trail Boss don’t use Adaptive Ride Control like the Denali and High Country. That isn’t an available option either.
This music is some 70s psychedelic premo stuff.
Gotta keep mixin’ it up
I installed my 5100’s with the boot up like the ranchos. someone commented that they were upside down so I called bilstein. bilstein said they’re designed and tested to be installed boot down so I swapped the rear orientation
Interesting
@@Donslife yes bootside down
I did some research and it seems that Bilstein shocks should have the label read right side up. Some series or models have the boot up and some down. Mine are installed with the labels right side up.
academy.bilsteinus.com/knowledge/do-i-install-boot-up-or-boot-down
The Bilstein label on the shock body should be upright in the correct orientation. If your shocks have been installed with the stickers on upside down they should be flipped the other way.
@@Donslife my 5100 decals are in the up position, must be different because of the year?
Maybe! Either way I will leave mine according to Bilstein’s official guidance (lettering right-side-up)
Great video, I’d like to put the same struts/shocks on my 2020 AT4 as well. Can you tell me the bilstein part numbers for the front and rear? Thanks
Front : B8 5100 24-309509
Rear : B8 5100 24-309516
For stock AT4 - Not for use with another lift kit
@@Donslife thank you for the info
I have a 2023 Denali 1500 with arc will those 5100 be batter them my current ?
No, in my opinion.
Dumb question I have a stock trail boss, and you think 0-4.5” work ? Or do I need exact measurements
You need the exact spec for the AT4 and Trailboss. Bilstein’s website can help
When you put new shocks on do you have to do another alignment?
I had it checked. It was still within spec, but I suggest you still have it checked
what bumper swap do you have? That light bar is cool looking
It is the original bumper but I swapped out the panel at the bottom for the diesel version. The cut out is near perfect for a light bar
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Question for you: when you did the front shocks, did you have any clunking noise after doing the upgrade? I installed the same shocks and seem to be getting a clunking sound. I took it back to the shop and they state that everything is normal and they see nothing wrong. However, the sound is persistent.
I did put my adjustment at the highest level. Let me know if you thanks
I haven’t noticed what you’re experiencing. I would have a look at the instructions from Bilstein’s site and make sure they used some of the original mounting parts
Hey boss, i did many of you things you did your truck and liked all those upgrades. How much is the cost for this one.
For me it was about $300 Canadian dollars. In the US probably about $225 for the pair.
@@Donslife Nice. Thanks
Do the air bags help the ride or just for trailering benefit?
Benefit trailering and reducing body roll if loaded or not. They don’t help the ride quality
I wonder if these would work on my car .... 😉
Yes and your trailer 😂
Hello Don,Thanks for video.How is the comfort and smoothness compare with oem Rancho shocks?
I think they are a great improvement especially when confronting large bumps. But don’t take my word for it. Just google bilstein 5100 reviews and you’ll see! There are better shocks for way more money, but these are excellent and won’t break the bank.
@@Donslifemany thanks for the help.🙏🏻
Questions: How are the new shocks? Also, is the borla attack louder now? Thanks
Shocks seem better in every way. Especially for the reasonable cost. I have the Borla S-Type so I’m not sure how to answer that
Ive seen people put theese on with the boot up and other people with the boot down wich way is the correct way?!
Bilstein states the correct way for their shocks on their website. Depending on the model the boot can be up sometimes and down sometimes. This video shows the correct way for this exact model #
When you did your front shocks, did you have to replace anything else?
Nope. Bolt on direct replacement in this case
@Donslife awesome! Thank you for the reply. I have a 2021 TB and I'm not a fan of these Ranchos shocks.
Here’s the video:
Bilstein Ride Height Adjustable Shock Install - Lift your AT4 or Trailboss!
th-cam.com/video/_tOdB0HHH_g/w-d-xo.html
@@Donslife awesome. I will watch this video . Thanks.
I got a 19 at4 1500 did you only do the rears? or are the fronts also the shit factory shocks i hate the hop it does going down the highway
Here you go, I mention this front install in the video:
Bilstein Ride Height Adjustable Shock Install - Lift your AT4 or Trailboss!
th-cam.com/video/_tOdB0HHH_g/w-d-xo.html
Question , by any chance , did you keep the stock rancho shocks …looking for a rear set for some gmc warranty issue
Thanks in advance
Yes I did
Unless you live in Canada, they might not be worth the shipping costs
how did you get the steering wheel gmc logo black??
It’s red and chrome. Maybe the camera/lighting made it look black
Will this fit on 2022 silverado 1500 custom
Yes but a different part number. Check out their website for exact fitment options. The AT4’s and Trail Bosses have very specific part numbers
What did you do for the front?
I mentioned it in the video. Here you go:
Bilstein Ride Height Adjustable Shock Install - Lift your AT4 or Trailboss!
th-cam.com/video/_tOdB0HHH_g/w-d-xo.html
Any grease on the bushing?
I chose not to (I think these ones are okay for dry installation since there is no rotation). You could grease them, just find a product that won’t invite dirt and grime build up, or worse, breakdown the bushing.
Did you replace the front shocks also?
Absolutely. I did them the year before. th-cam.com/video/_tOdB0HHH_g/w-d-xo.html
In my directions they said that the boots went towards the bottom?
According to Bilstein’s current website info. Labels right side up. 🤷🏻♂️
anyone notice or measure if they gained any lift in the rear when they added they added the Billstein rear shocks ?
No change in the rear for me, but mine is tough to confirm since I have airlift bags too
Got a 1988 dodge dakota im trying to do them on do u gatta lift it up or can i do it sitting on the tires
Yes you have to lift the frame up so the weight can come off the suspension. Then another jack can be used to raise and lower the suspension as needed to line up the shock mounts
@@Donslife where would be a good place to lift up the frame sir i got a 1988 dodge dakota lol but i think its the same
@@Donslife from the diff??
@@mrmaybe4074 what about the hitch? And please use some jack stands for safety
Morning
You are so quick! Good Morning!
@@Donslife that's what she said! Sorry couldn't resist 🤣
Is ther a video of you installing the air ride ?
Start here, there are a few: How To Install Air Lift LoadLifter Air Bags on a GMC Sierra AT4 or Chevrolet Trail Boss. 2019 - 2023
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Next one : How to Install a Wireless Compressor for your Air Suspension
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Thank you . Great channel by the way 👍
What kind of tires do you have?
Goodyear Wrangler Duratracs (stock 18” option)
@@Donslife Ok. Thank you for your responses and your great videos. I have a 2020 6.2 Trail Boss and your videos and given me great ideas and options for my truck. Please keep up the great work 👍🏼
Thanks man! Working on a video today with a Trail Boss!
@@Donslife Awesome!
What is the part number of those hood hinges?
Putco Luminix Hood Brackets 2019-2021 GMC Sierra 1500
@@Donslife thank you.
loosen the nut instead of the bolt. Your supposed to torque the nut not the bolt for more accurate torque
Yes sir I made the correct. Luckily it was good
Can I have your old shocks? i'll pay the shipping to US
I have the 3.0L. How do you like that gas hog?
I love it. Lots of power and all the right noises. 💨
@@Donslife I get it. I had a 6.2. In a 2017. Was fast but every time I stepped on it I would see my needle move. Not with my 3.0. Thank you for sharing
I hear you. The 3.0 diesel was not that easy to find when I purchased my truck, so it wasn't really an option for me. I would consider it now.
@@Donslife I’ve had 4 of them. Plenty of torque. 5.3 and got nothing on it
@@Donslife I’ve gotten 26 mpg on a 700 mile trip
What about the front struts
I did them a year before this one. There is a full video on it
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spend 100k on a truck thats "offroad" still have to change the suspension lmfao
😂
Just put Bilstein 6112s in the front along with Bilstein UCAs.
5160s in the rear with the Resivours. Duramax AT4 2021.
Have hated Rancho shocks since I was a teen in my 1980 4wd Chev Luv. The ride is always terrible with ranchos. Hated then then and I hate them still and I can afford whatever I want now.
Hey ranch-lo lick my taint.
Garbage on heavier trucks. Daily driving is stiff. Great off road but you will suffer daily on a heavier truck. Go with rancho or fox.
I’ll keep it in kind if I purchase an HD model
Ranchos are such garbage, I've never had a truck that rode so poorly as my 19 Trailboss
Agree with you yesterday I bought 5100 shocks it’s way better and smoother
Talk talk talk
I considered rapping
Seriously? You went over 2 speed bumps at 10 mph. What kind of review is that?
Compared to Ranchos, 2 speed bumps is all you need to notice the improvement
@@Donslife Anything compared to a worn out shock is a huge difference, but most viewers come here trying to decide between Bilsteins and other entry level shock options like the fox 2.0, ranchos, icons, etc. Specifically I was interested in the difference between a digressive piston in the Bilsteins and a linear piston like the Foxes. And for the digressives that means that different input shaft speeds result in different compression. So at a minimum you needed to hit that speed bump at 10 and at 30mph. You would also need to compare the dive under braking, body roll when turning. Washboard conditions will be harsher with a digressive and smooth with a linear, but big hits should be the same. Also a bottom out test would have been nice to measure the stroke at different vehicle speeds when hitting a speed bump. What speed could you go without bottoming? Likewise you could hit a jump and find out what speed you could go without topping out. So, yeah, I don’t think you reviewed the shock hardly at all other than saying it feels good.
I apologize if you find the video misleading or misrepresentative. I'm not arguing with your points or concerns. The video is a follow-up the many changes this truck has gone through. Since the installation of the front 5100's, I have been inundated with questions and requests to replace the rears and show how it can be done. I held off. I also mention in the video that the Air Lift Bags make it difficult to establish what the exact difference will be. The Rancho's that I replaced were less than 2 yrs old and not worn out from what I could tell. This was never meant to be a full-scale review video or to compare against other aftermarket options. It is intended to share how easy the installation is for a DIY-type consumer and sharing my anecdotal experience with the change.
That's not an upgrade, just a change from a vehicle specific tuned off-road shock to a generic highway shock. To each his own.