Helical Machining: Rifling with the Norris Chuck (TIS094)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.พ. 2025
- The Idahoan demonstrates his so-called "Norris Chuck," a device that facilitates machining helical surfaces on cylindrical work pieces, by making a rifling button and driving it through a piece of DOM tubing to make a barrel blank.
Great video. It is so refreshing to find a presenter that doesn't repeat himself endlessly - making a six minute video go 30 minutes long. Thanks!!
Oh my goodness... If someone like Mr Idahoan is able to build such a complex metalworking device he knows who Mr Morse with his tapers and also factory was and you can be sure he is just playing with words.
Well done Mr. Idahoan show.. I never saw a better homemade rifling device with such a widespread possibility of use.
Great job. Working myself in the machine tool business for over 30 years and always appreciate to see great solutions!
I hear that Norris chuck is so strong, it actually holds the world, and spins it around the workpiece.
Love the audio improvement.
Turned out wonderfully. I was surprised that it pounded through so uniformly helical. Love your machining equipment - great 'Norris Chuck' . Appreciated that editing you did too - made it quick while saving the coolness of the machining process in fast motion. And yes sound was much better. Thanks.
that rifling looks absolutely beautiful. you are an artist man. also ive been looking for a setup like that for a long time for machining my own helical end mills without any CNC. thanks for making this video.
This type of video is why I'm a subscriber. The sound quality never bothered me before, but now it is more professional. Keep up the good work.
Such an elegant (almost ironic) juxtaposition of sophisticated precision machining and that thumpy bumpy sledge hammer on an old stump. I love it. One uniquely interesting human being.
Most people would go to the hardware store for a pulley. This guy makes one in less time than going to store. Kudos mate!
the world needs more people like you, I love your videos, keep them coming
some mighty clean rifling! also the "Norris Chuck" is pretty novel, well done.
Great content and the 'I can do it' approach is a breath of fresh air.
Wow your mistake with the rifling spacing looks really nice, like a signature. Beautiful.
Thank you!
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Don't use it in crime.... The forensics will pin it on you in a jiffy with thumb print rifling like this!
😂😂😂😂
@@Igotknobblies lol that's what I was thinking. They wouldn't even need one of those comparator machines they use, you could just look down the bore, look at the bullet, and go "yup this is the one".
that right there is why i love youtube. it is incredible to see what people can come up with. very well done
Amazing quality and great work.
Thanks for your effort, the sound is much better indeed. Thanks for sharing your "experiments"
What a character, what a nice guy, what a machinist, we need more of this guy in the world.
wow, driving the rifling button with a hammer was a crazy idea for me, but it worked pretty well! thanks for sharing!
Very creative use of the equipment. Thanks again for linking me to this.
You're welcome!
To say I'm jealous of this set up is an understatement, there is very few things you can't make with this.
Audio is a great improvement, I am in the process of building a small recording studio myself and it definitely steps up the total quality. Great video as well.
Sound is much better now, thanks! And thank you for all the work you put into these videos!
A unique and fascinating rifling pattern. I would suggest replacing the friction belt with a gear belt. If the friction belt slips, you mess up your spiral. And swapping out gear pulleys makes it possible to quick change twist rates.
Yes, toothed pulleys and a timing belt to give positive drive would be better.
Very good idea and machining of fish. Congratulations. Angel
Your shop is amazing. You are a very lucky man my friend.
Edit: interesting the high # of views....must the the Chuck Norris connection.
Another awesome video. I want to make an internal throttle assembly for a motorcycle build I’m doing. It needs a long helical cut on a a piece of tubing. This was the answer.😄 I’m going to start drawing up plans for my mill.
How did it go mate? I have 1968 CZ with that style of throttle. How did you do an internal cut in a tube with a mill????
Very interesting. I've always wondered how you rifle a barrel. I really like the Norris Chuck set up.
Excellent craftsmanship Sir.
Thank you!
Man I absolutely love your setup that you have on the mill with that indexer thats cool as hell ill have to get me a set up like that for my mill iv been thinking about doing something like that for awhile now. Good work keep it up look forward to see more of your work be safe
Nice job, l have very poor hearing so it is very good to hear a clear voice and excellent English. Thanks
Beautiful job! Great improvement in sound quality! so stoked to see this in action
"naming a chuck 'norris' just seemed appropriate somehow"
absolute legend
El mejor video que he visto para hacer estrias manualmente. Exelente video.
Sound is much better, and the rifling is beautiful
Great work that looked like some cool rifling who know what we come up with during our experiments it’s always interesting.
I dont know how you don't have 1,000,000+ subscribers.
Damn that rifling is beautiful
Any bullet would be proud to spin it's way down that barrel.
Man I knew Chuck Norris was tough, but this is next level!!!
The best part of this video is imagining you calling a tool supplier asking for tools with a "morris" taper.
Yeah, I realized after I posted this that I had misspelled "Morse." Maybe I should have called this a "Norse Chuck" instead, but that might have been confusing, since it was made in Idaho, not Scandinavia. And in terms of the play on words, that begs the question: was there ever a viking named "Chuck Norse?"
Can't hear an echo, so much improved.
LOL, They are MORSE TAPERS AND TOOLS. Along with an indexing plate you can do anything imaginable.Man, you are rude and crude and that is why I came back and sub'd. We don't all have all the stuff after retiring eh. Well done fella. If you ever get an indexing head you will have to put a spare bunk/bed in yer shop. You will love it !
That rifling like that look like it may be very accurate. Thumbs up.
A good way to drive a button with a short stroke press is to get some hardened steel dowel pins about 2" long and one size smaller diameter than the bore. Run one in all the way, then stack another on top of it, and so on till you are all the way through. I've seen buttons shatter trying to drive them with a hammer.
Sounds great and the barrel is killing!
Brilliant,,,,,simply brilliant.I have a workshop and I have often given thought to this job of rifling barrels.The use of a mill and the way you connected it to the table feed is just pure genius.Perhaps you show how to alter the system for making helical cogs?I needed a helical cog a while back and although I managed to make it work, it was in fact a dogs breakfast.The cost of getting helical cogs made is massive, real expensive. Your fantastic idea could produce these cogs very nicely.Rarely I say this,,,,,,,,,,I AM impressed
Thank you! Yes, I would think you could use a system like this to make helical gears. I will have to give that a try one of these days.
I'm currently building a similar thing to this, although I'm controlling mine using an arduino and stepper motor. It takes an input from the DRO scale and for every certain number of pulses (13 for roughly 1:16" with 5um scales and 1/32 Microsteping) it will send a pulse to the Microstep driver and stepper motor. I'll make sure to record it and upload a video of it to TH-cam.
I have often wondered how a barrel is rifled. Cool video.
If you have a patreon I would be glad to support your channel that has so much to offer
Thank you! I am indeed on Patreon.
www.patreon.com/TheIdahoanShow
Perfectly! Wonderful machine! Several gadgets - and you can cut small trunks with better quality right on it!
The rifling came out so clean...
Sound is fine :) Awesome videos! Greetings from Sweden.
now this rifling looks damn good. so much talent.
This is a very interesting video! Well done!
i am rgsven 35yrs retired machinist...proud of you dude!
but listen....morse taper ...get
a machinist handbook.
Oops--you're right, it is a morse taper, not a morris taper that is used on drill chucks, but oh well, it still made for a comical play on words. Morse sounds a lot like 'Morris' when you say it out loud, and I guess I've heard it spoken more than I've seen it in print.
Actually, if you follow the principle of advancing the letter by one you would get a "Norse" chuck. Conjures visions of Vikings. Sort of a modern, hi tech Thor, God of Thunder, or in this case, thunder stick, replacing swords with guns. (I gotta switch to decaf.)
Regaleme un cañón de rifle calibre 22
First video, already a subscriber; keep up the good work!
Wow, thanks for Listening about the echo, I really like your videos and because of a slight hearing problem I couldnt hear anything with the echo, Love the Dubbed format. Please keep up the awesome videos.
Add a roll pin to your bar stock to index on your chuck jaw for an accurate position for a second button. Leave them connected to cut 6 equal spaced grooves.
You make it look so easy. Nice.
Good audio, it makes big difference.
Excellent work! I'm impressed with how well the rifling came out, but you might consider revising the design of your spiral drive from using pulleys to using gears. Reason being that in the even that you get oil or grease on either the pulleys or the belt they will slip and the helical path will become irregular and unpredictable.
Good suggestion, I was thinking about belt slip also. When I built my CNC router, (video on my channel) I wanted to have the option to change ratios on the leadscrew drives, with no slip. I used cheap nylon timing belt pulleys from SDP/SI in Hyde Park, New York. Nothing in the main setup would have to change, just order the pulleys with the right size hubs in the desired ratio combinations, and pop on the timing belt.
I had a great idea that makes the expense of timing pulleys and belts unnecessary, and greatly simplifies the setup. If twist is one in 9, for example, make a pulley with circumference of 9 (pi x diameter = circumference). This pulley is attached directly to the workpiece chuck. 1/16 in steel cable is anchored to the pulley and wrapped around it the number of times needed for the length of the workpiece. The cable then goes through a idler pulley mounted to the table angled such that the cable now goes in the same direction of table travel. The end of the cable is anchored to a stationary surface. Now, as table moves forward, the cable is unspooled from the pulley that is attached to the workpiece.
This works in only one direction, of course, but a little ingenuity will lead to a cable coming off both sides of the pulley, anchored in the opposite direction as the first one.
For perfect accuracy, subtract the diameter of the cable from the diameter of the pulley.
Impressive work, stay at it!
Great video thank you for sharing, yes the audio was much better my ears thank you as well.
you're the exact type of person,
who made america,
the wonderful place,
it is.
Thank you! I am flattered!
molly clock ..... good one i like your attitude i would be flattered also.
good point
：）
So an immigrant, slave or native american?
Cool vid. However your other video gave me an idea
You can just use a triangular file , round off the edges heat till red give it a small twist then cut off the part with the correct correct calibre. I tried it yesterday seems to work well!!!
Thanks for your how to vids
Good to see a good old Idaho boy making things with his hands
Happy to oblige!
Nice video and work!
Sou ferramenteiro e frezador ; sem maquina e sem inteligen como voce nada funciona e nimguem aprende mais como voce parabens pela sua mente .
Can you do a more in dept video on how you figured the pulley size to time the turn. I truly love how you made this and i want to learn more. Thank you
unreal Skills you have Sir!
guess you should be using timing belts with tooths instead of v belts for syncing purposes. non toothed belts are intended for power transmission and have a slip so you might lose sync between the input shaft and the output shaft.
holy, I am watching this 6 years later and came back to say the same thing just to see that I already said it, lol
I am not sure if the lack of any reverb or the slow frame rate of the rendered video is more disturbing, but I have found in live audio recording some reverb and noise is fitting with the surrounding visual ambiance to make it sound more realistic.Also, I was thinking the reverb was a contributory stylistic effect. It is a little excessive and may be overly distracting. You could control it with some inexpensive evaporative cooler pads, burlap... spread around your recording area to break up hard flat acoustically reflective surfaces. You could be surprised with how little is needed to reduce it to an acceptable level.
The shot panning around the mill was so flickery it made me feel car sick. I don't know if this is on my end or yours, but it really made me feel sick. Yes I'm pretty susceptible to motion sickness and simulator sickness, but ya know, 4 frames per second isn't a great artistic choice regardless :P
But it's a great piece of kit you made :D
This I love! Thank you for a great video. I've always wanted to do something like that but sadly have very little creative ability.
Very very cool! Im super jealous and your super badass! Haha thanks for sharing !!
Wow that is so impressive.
Greetings from Austria
Thank you!
This format is great, because it is much easier to understand what you are saying. We just need the video to be a little more directly relevant to the dialogue. For example, @1:23. When you talk about helical cuts, show us some helically cut metal, instead of just the same machine for a continuous 2 mins.
You could even do a sort of inverse, whereby you talk to the camera live (in, say, your kitchen or living room) and put in a couple silent video clips from the workshop while you describe things. Again using the same time stamp, you could live talk in a quiet area, say helical cuts, then show us some video of you cutting helically while talking about helical cuts. Thats my $0.02, hope it helps!
That was the coolest GUN ANYTHING I’ve ever seen!!!
i suggest to you to make a mirror finish button without a grooves to give the barrel a mirror finish before rifling
Beyond doing rifled barrels, you can also sharpen end mills with this
Great job, great sound, great video!!
Norris first name Chuck doesn't use a machine. He just pisses the perfect rifling in any barrel.
Legend says that if you hold that gun barrel to your eye and pan it from right to left and then back again, you will see Sean Connery appear through it.
Nice work!
How do you determine the twist rate? Just by changing some pulleys I guess? Great video and process, I wish I had the means to do the same.
belts slip and you have no way of controlling the accuracy you are extremely special
You are so Amazing, Scary Smart. And God Bless you Sir!!!
Thank you!
High tech then an old hammer outside. Crazy juxtaposed weird man! Works every time.
have you watched the Q&A on InrangeTV with Faxon barrels see like the thing you'd like and this reminded me of that talk
Hey Tim, how about a video on the math used to make the Norris Chuck rotate the proper speed to provide a proper helical.....
That's a good idea. I'll keep that in mind.
Chuck Norris would approve
double land shouldnt matter. very clean job. should work well. dont know how you chose rate of twist. that does matter. id love to have a utah gun but im old and probably wouldnt shoot it much. you are pretty talented. keep the vids coming.
Should have a toothed belt to ensure predictable ratio and eliminate phase error.
awesome video!
Norris Chuck is when Chuck Norris goes undercover.
really great one. is there anything to consider at the hardening process? how do you know when its enough? can you tell something about that i mean the hardening in general
All I did to harden it was heat it up until it glowed bright orange and then cool it off with compressed air until it was cool enough to touch. This heat treating method may not be very scientific, but it seems to work ok on rifling buttons made from A2 tool steel.
Very Good Video. Now the question. HOW do you get your equipment cleaned up after you use it? Maybe you ought to make a video about that?
Thank you for sharing this. Really helped me out.
Great work sir! God Bless.
Hey these grooves are very cool-looking !
Groovy :) :)
(Sorry I had to do it)
Good job 👏👏👏
I had no idea that was how its done!