Timoti Karetu: Why return the language to those who let it die?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ต.ค. 2024
- The Government wants iwi to take control of Te Reo through the establishment of Te Mātāwai, but there are doubts over whether iwi are the best drivers of language revitalisation. Professor Tīmoti Karetū joined us to discuss this matter.
If your goal is to learn, you will do whatever is needed to accomplish your goal.
I attended Te Matatini this year. Everyone who attended that event who didn't understand Māori well, wished that they could understand it better. How do we generate that desire amongst people all year round?
Ko tāku e mataku ana, ki te riro mā ngā iwi anō te reo e whakaako e whānakohia ana te pūtea e te tokoiti hei oranga mō te tokoiti i ia iwi. He whakapai kanohi noa iho te mahi. Me tika kē te putea ki ngā kura. He ngana te Kawanatanga ki te uta i te pīkauranga, ka tika mā rātou kē e kawe, ki runga i ngā iwi kore wheako. Ko te mea mutunga, he raru.
Ka aroha te hunga pukumahi ia rā, ia rā ki te whai moni hei hoko kai mā te whānau. Hoki rawa mai ki te kāinga kua ngenge rawa inā te kaha kua whakapaungia ki te ako tika i te reo. Ka taea e ētahi, ētahi noa iho. Aue! Me pēhea rā?
Tīmoti's face says everything that needs to be said.
Tōna whakaae ana au ki tāna whakaaro. He nui ngā rautaki kua whakamātauhia e te kāwana e wai ake rānei engari kei te heke haere tonu ngā kaikōrero māori. Māmā ake te noho noa iho ki te whakawā engari ki te whakamahi i ngā mahi kia ora tonu ai te reo, auare ake. Ko Tīmoti tētahi e kaha tautoko ana e kaha whakamahi ana i ngā kōrero kua puta i a ia waihoki kua roa ia e whaiwhai ana mō te reo kia ora tonu ai nā reira ehara i te mea ko tēnei kōrero āna te kupu whakamutunga engari he hua kei roto. E tika ana me mātua whakapau pūtea ki te hunga e kōrero māori ana. He nui hoki ngā kaupapa hei āwhina hei poipoi i a tātou kia whakarauora i tō tātou reo engari me tīmata ki reira, ki te hunga nā rātou i whakapaukaha nei o rātou kaha kia ora tonu ai te reo mō ake tonu atu. Mēnā ka kaha akiaki tātou i a tātou anō kia kōrero māori i ngā wā me ngā wāhi e tika ana kāore e kore ka hiki te tatau o nga kiakorero reo māori. Me maumahara tonu tātou he whenua reo rua/toru tēnei kia kaua e noho kūare noa i te āhua o te whenua nei heoi anō tātou te iwi māori, kia kaha rā tātou kia tautoko i a tātou anō kei mate rā anō tō tātou reo.
E hoa. I think Timoti is out of touch. Go for a walk around the hood and ask Maori what are the reasons why they are not learning the reo. You can learn by having an internet connection but that cost money. You can learn by going to varsity or polytechs that cost money and a lot of time off work but that's where all the courses are to learn te reo.
The reality is that the priority for most of us Maori is survival and the best way to do that is have a job get the money and fill the cupboards. Lot of Maori are still stuck in the poverty trap either born into it or can't get out of it SO KEEP IT REAL.
A lot of our people do want to learn the reo but it's a social problem that they are in. That's what we have to remind ourselves of. Our people need better access to the reo.
Ko te nuinga tonu o ngai Maori kei raro e putu ana i te rawa kore. E ae ki nga tatauranga ko te nuinga o ngai maori kei te wahanga mahi a ringa. He tokoiti tonu o tatou he tangata whai rawa.
Kare i te whakaae ki a Timoti korero - na te iwi i whakamate i te reo.
I think it's a good idea to give the iwi a go and let them find the strategies that work in their rohe in their communities in their situation. Let them come up with more dynamic approaches.
I'm passionate about learning the reo. But I work full time and would never give up my job because I'm of the working class like most Maori. After work I go on the net and go to night classes at the Marae hei ako i te reo. This approach works for me because I can still go to work and learn the reo.
The current academic approaches have not worked it is clear. Current stats show that under 50% of maori are out there actively learning the reo.
Timoti sour grapes mate your academic approach only fits the few.
i think, Maori just to busy doing other things the deem better then their own language my family do many other things, sports drinking, movies and are really just too young to realise the value of our treasure unlike the many tauiwi. I set up many a free learning opertunities for my own family at first 2 times a week they come looking tired after work, looking after children etc etc, so I cut it to one night and travel to a place central to all, still the same korero, then it dies, couple of weeks later their all doing other things at night basketball drinking blar blar, and all the tried faces and heaps of children all teko....Timoti is right. and most of us have computers and flash iphones and it seems like an endless stream of data. The are heaps of free te reo classes on the utube and internet and they are exactly what the teach at the wanangas, also if you get stuck there are many facebook pages the can help you answer questions Stacey Morrison has a good one kia ora
Poverty doesn't explain why many whānau don't send their kids to Kohanga Reo & Kura Kaupapa. Not enough Māori value the language.
Dr Karetu shows a surprising ignorance of or indifference to the social conditions and pakeha pressures for Maori to conform to pakeha norms which did not include Maori language, history or tikanga. I believe his comment reflects negatively on him and simplistictly apportions blame.
Kia ora Sir Timoti Karetu, kei te pirangi ahau ko koe hei Kawana Tianara mo matau te iwi Maori o Aotearoa. He Te Pairi no Tuhoe ahau te Mokopuna o Te Pairi Tuterangi. Kiaora kia koe te Rangatira
Kāore he kōrero i tua atu i tāna !
Irish, Gaeilge, has the same issues, at one time even banned in 1367, by the statute of Kilkenny, of course by the English, so that only pockets of Irish speakers exist today "beyond the pale"
i tautoko this point of view of Koro Timoti, in my experience (in my own whanui too) people are whakama, indifferent, apathatic towards the state of the language, kapai who comes up with the best vehicle to keep it from declining....they out there somewhere in whare, marae, just like where kohanga reo was born....
Timoti talks the talk and he walks the walk ka nui te tangata .nga mihi nui ki a ia. . na Gary
I don't think it should be compulsory in high school, but primary schools definitely, and not just, kiaora ko (whoever the frick you are) ahau. I don't think we should condemn the newer generations -my generation (I'm a teen) we weren't responsible for the language dieing so why should we pay by not being given it?
That laugh at the end..lol
I don't know the answer here. Timoti should always be listened to & I like his reasoning. I can't condemn Pita either though. Whatever works & does inspire.
He's corrupt
That’s a bold statement..???