Tip: if you're still not 60 FPS in fight, lower some of your settings. Definitely not skill issue. Definitely not your fault. Totally definitely not absolutely but probably your PC. This Account Review took like 2 hours. Man, each account review you guys get your time's worth. You can earn the chance to get quality account reviews in my stream. www.twitch.tv/skyjlv/
This is why I don’t even think about competing for Max damage. I only play on my phone, but I’ve seen the incredible damage difference playing my account on pc. It’s a mobile game, but we’re punished (hard) for playing it on mobile. Remember, this game was advertised as being able to be played with one hand lol.
I learned this the last week. I usually played on a tablet and when I installed Nikke on PC, dude, I noticed the difference on interception on a faster transition to boss phases.
I play on a Poco F5, but it's because of these details that I keep a close eye on the framerates even when playing at medium quality and 60 FPS. Also, I've noticed that when I play the game from a sniper's view, all the damage increases. However, if I switch to another character, the damage is cut by almost 20~30%. Apparently, the sniper view improves the phone's FPS.
If you're talking about team's total damage increased, the Sniper reason is probably also you're bursting more because you have faster energy gain. (You get more burst gain when you are 'on' the SR). Try to count how much more times you're bursting. I've talked about the SR/RL energy gain change here: th-cam.com/video/ofUFCUIAmcg/w-d-xo.html
@@skyjlv I'll watch the video right now, I didn't know you'd done anything about that in particular! That's excellent! Also, thanks for answering my comment! Also, that case It's not that it hinders me, but I think it's an interesting thing to keep in mind.
thanks to this video I ended up discovering that I played with the fps locked at 30, and now I see that a new world has opened up before my eyes, thank you
I'm 1000% sure that whole higher FPS supremacy is easily fixable on Shift Up's side, dunno what are they doin. Like, SU is not gonna gain any money from you getting a better device so might as well fix that shit cause it may make one and a half players quit the game lmao
Nope. At some point hardware limitations cannot be overcome by a dev "just fix" it bs like you suggested. Stop playing on trash devices. The "fix" would be devs lowering the quality of the game on better devices to be only as good as sht devices. You think if devs just work harder they can make a game like Mortal Kombat look and play just as good on switch like it does on modern consoles/pc? They cannot.
Easily fixable,, bro. I'm a game dev myself; all they realistically need to do is multiply the damage of weapons with "deltaTime * 60," and the problem will be fixed.
There is absolutely no way you need anything close to an i9 or 64gigs of ram to hit 60FPS and to play Nikke of all games. His specs, barring whatever GPU he was using, seemed more than adequate to his 60FPS.
I'm a mobile Nikke gamer and found that the increase of FPS is a thing. I was having trouble with Interception EX fights at 30, but as soon as I upped to 60, no problems. Well, apart from a crash here and there...
My Friend also said it to me, once I get Modernia I need a good pc or else she's not going to put more dmg because her hit rates depends on the fps of the pc.
I stayed in my top 3% even with that debuff, I just now got a new CPU and everything is fine now, still gotta get a new GPU so can safely say the GPU doesn’t mean much at all for its FPS
This game definitely plays better on my PC. I have an i7-5820k and an RTX 2080 with 32GB of RAM. The game runs very smoothly. Even my iPhone 15 Pro gets the occasional hiccup in a couple of boss fights that can throw off my aim or timing, so I prefer to do tougher content on my PC. DO NOT play on 30 FPS if you can help it. It's really bad.
After seeing this video when it dropped a few hours earlier, I had to test for myself. Got an FPS counter with Nvidia Geforce Experience as well as from MSI Afterburner. Ran the same IRON boss with same team in the video. The results of my personal experience are as follows: I'll try keep this short. I noticed I would drop from 60FPS to 52FPS during burst, likely because of all the screen effects. I messed with all options in "GRAPHICS" tab and the only 2 options that stopped this dip were "CHARACTER RESOLUTION" and "COMBAT EFFECT", which are right next to each other. I would switch them both to LOW and OFF respectively. No other options here helped my FPS drop. Before changing the settings I averaged over several attempts at 1.33 billion damage. After lowering the settings I averaged over several attempts 1.38 billion damage. An approximate 50 million damage difference, give or take. That's approximately a 3.62% damage difference. I hope this anecdote helps other people. Even minor, temporary dips in FPS can make a difference and lower the damage of MG. EDIT: Added percentage difference in damage.
My friend who played Nikke on his Ipad usually had the app exploded when playing for some time. And yes, he mained Dorothy. It's getting worse when he's using Doro along with Crown as he cannot finish a co-op mode if they were together LOL. Now he had to play on a laptop instead when co-op. Meanwhile me using Asus RoG 522JX for 8 years (with ssd and 16gb ram upgrade) can still runs Nikke 60 fps as fine as his Ipad when the app not exploding. xD
im using ipone 15 and all smooth.. im not using the higest settings (but the grapchic and model are high, unless they looks like a crap).. so i can assume i got 60fps on the fight right
i play on my poco X5, should i lower my setting because sometimes fps just drop badly when the screen is start full of enemies and other stuff also should i extend my RAM? I really wanted to but I'm afraid something bad will happened if i extend my RAM? does extending RAM hurts your phone?
That dude's laptop should have more than enough specs to run Nikke @ 60 FPS consistently. His GPU is either a GTX 1650 or an RTX 3050. He needs to add an additional 8GB RAM because just 1 stick of 8GB is definitely causing a hit on his FPS. Then just play around with the graphics setting.
If some phones can run this consistently at 60, any GPU within the last six years will do fine enough. So a 1650 or 3050 wouldn't be the issue here, the CPU is the biggest bottle neck with this game.
It's been like this since Modernia drop. People did voice their concerns back then, but nothing's done to solve it. If you have an old phone / no PC / broke af, you're basically done.
It's probably programmed that way for phones. Probably requires less computation resources when MG is tied to fps, so phones don't stutter with the amount of objects on the screen.
😮😮 But Can anyone give us the exact data on the damage based on phones (especially android cuz budget goes to rent and daily food intake) So please I'm new but i really wanted the boss drop especially the module or that gem cuz i wanna BRRRRRR DAMAGE. And i already have my supports lvl 10 skills and bursts and even tank (especially Crown) 😊😊😊
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@@helmantailor1578 i'm using google pixel but i do have some reservations on it in terms of just gaming. I think other phones might have better gaming performance.
For anyone blaming shift up and saying they need better optimization. You're wrong. Optimization can only go so far. Get job, work overtime, beg, or suck 🐓. Then use the extra money to buy yourself a current year flagship computer/phone. A good one too, not a fkn weird budget/mid tier machine
Tip: if you're still not 60 FPS in fight, lower some of your settings.
Definitely not skill issue. Definitely not your fault. Totally definitely not absolutely but probably your PC.
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1:52 nice zoom
This is why I don’t even think about competing for Max damage. I only play on my phone, but I’ve seen the incredible damage difference playing my account on pc. It’s a mobile game, but we’re punished (hard) for playing it on mobile. Remember, this game was advertised as being able to be played with one hand lol.
Are you telling me THATS why I feel like I’m so damn behind? I play this game exclusively on my phone.
Wow, the damage difference was bigger than I expected.
this is why on mg team I change my desktop resolution to 720p b4 hopping in on UR and SR
I learned this the last week. I usually played on a tablet and when I installed Nikke on PC, dude, I noticed the difference on interception on a faster transition to boss phases.
I play on a Poco F5, but it's because of these details that I keep a close eye on the framerates even when playing at medium quality and 60 FPS.
Also, I've noticed that when I play the game from a sniper's view, all the damage increases.
However, if I switch to another character, the damage is cut by almost 20~30%.
Apparently, the sniper view improves the phone's FPS.
If you're talking about team's total damage increased, the Sniper reason is probably also you're bursting more because you have faster energy gain. (You get more burst gain when you are 'on' the SR). Try to count how much more times you're bursting. I've talked about the SR/RL energy gain change here: th-cam.com/video/ofUFCUIAmcg/w-d-xo.html
@@skyjlv I'll watch the video right now, I didn't know you'd done anything about that in particular! That's excellent!
Also, thanks for answering my comment!
Also, that case It's not that it hinders me, but I think it's an interesting thing to keep in mind.
Potatobros... Also with low fps sometimes you cancel your AA if you play sniper rifles, even worse if it's accompanied by stutter.
thanks to this video I ended up discovering that I played with the fps locked at 30, and now I see that a new world has opened up before my eyes, thank you
I'm 1000% sure that whole higher FPS supremacy is easily fixable on Shift Up's side, dunno what are they doin. Like, SU is not gonna gain any money from you getting a better device so might as well fix that shit cause it may make one and a half players quit the game lmao
Nope. At some point hardware limitations cannot be overcome by a dev "just fix" it bs like you suggested. Stop playing on trash devices.
The "fix" would be devs lowering the quality of the game on better devices to be only as good as sht devices. You think if devs just work harder they can make a game like Mortal Kombat look and play just as good on switch like it does on modern consoles/pc? They cannot.
Easily fixable,, bro. I'm a game dev myself; all they realistically need to do is multiply the damage of weapons with "deltaTime * 60," and the problem will be fixed.
Yeah on my potato phone. 60FPS is a dream
There is absolutely no way you need anything close to an i9 or 64gigs of ram to hit 60FPS and to play Nikke of all games. His specs, barring whatever GPU he was using, seemed more than adequate to his 60FPS.
I'm a mobile Nikke gamer and found that the increase of FPS is a thing. I was having trouble with Interception EX fights at 30, but as soon as I upped to 60, no problems. Well, apart from a crash here and there...
Wait.
Is that... Iroha?
Cultured. Insta-sub. A true commander right here.
How do I check if it’s true 60fps ?
I don't think I have this problem as my game seems to run perfectly, but now I'm nervous and I'll have to test my fps in game. lol
thats why my modernia burst dont do anything lol, because it lags when I hit multiplie enemies
The pc client optimization is kinda ass too. My fps always drop to like 40-50 when I burst, on low settings or high it doesn't make any difference.
I know this exist but I didn't think it was this big of a difference
My Friend also said it to me, once I get Modernia I need a good pc or else she's not going to put more dmg because her hit rates depends on the fps of the pc.
I actually know about this since modernia release but i play on phone only so i already accepted my fate
I stayed in my top 3% even with that debuff, I just now got a new CPU and everything is fine now, still gotta get a new GPU so can safely say the GPU doesn’t mean much at all for its FPS
This legitimately need a built in fps counter
I thought this was something new but I knew it from very soon into the game
This game definitely plays better on my PC. I have an i7-5820k and an RTX 2080 with 32GB of RAM. The game runs very smoothly. Even my iPhone 15 Pro gets the occasional hiccup in a couple of boss fights that can throw off my aim or timing, so I prefer to do tougher content on my PC.
DO NOT play on 30 FPS if you can help it. It's really bad.
After seeing this video when it dropped a few hours earlier, I had to test for myself. Got an FPS counter with Nvidia Geforce Experience as well as from MSI Afterburner. Ran the same IRON boss with same team in the video. The results of my personal experience are as follows:
I'll try keep this short. I noticed I would drop from 60FPS to 52FPS during burst, likely because of all the screen effects. I messed with all options in "GRAPHICS" tab and the only 2 options that stopped this dip were "CHARACTER RESOLUTION" and "COMBAT EFFECT", which are right next to each other. I would switch them both to LOW and OFF respectively. No other options here helped my FPS drop.
Before changing the settings I averaged over several attempts at 1.33 billion damage. After lowering the settings I averaged over several attempts 1.38 billion damage. An approximate 50 million damage difference, give or take. That's approximately a 3.62% damage difference.
I hope this anecdote helps other people. Even minor, temporary dips in FPS can make a difference and lower the damage of MG.
EDIT: Added percentage difference in damage.
Definitely during burst is one of the times that drops FPS. Especially with Dorothy :')
@@skyjlv I bet with Crown too. Her effect lights up the whole screen. XD
What are your pc specs? CPU, Ram and GPU preferably
@@MHKyo1132 CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600X Six Core. RAM: 16GB. GPU: Nvidia GeForce RTX 2060.
Looking to upgrade at some point. Been some years. XD
My friend who played Nikke on his Ipad usually had the app exploded when playing for some time. And yes, he mained Dorothy. It's getting worse when he's using Doro along with Crown as he cannot finish a co-op mode if they were together LOL. Now he had to play on a laptop instead when co-op.
Meanwhile me using Asus RoG 522JX for 8 years (with ssd and 16gb ram upgrade) can still runs Nikke 60 fps as fine as his Ipad when the app not exploding. xD
This just gave me major perspective fr. My acct is quite good but I typically get like top 2% in solo. Phone and potato pc player here
that why I never bother doing solo raid anymore bcoz I know my phone cant compete with high end pc player
Potato debuff real om
im using ipone 15 and all smooth.. im not using the higest settings (but the grapchic and model are high, unless they looks like a crap)..
so i can assume i got 60fps on the fight right
i play on my poco X5, should i lower my setting because sometimes fps just drop badly when the screen is start full of enemies and other stuff
also should i extend my RAM? I really wanted to but I'm afraid something bad will happened if i extend my RAM? does extending RAM hurts your phone?
That dude's laptop should have more than enough specs to run Nikke @ 60 FPS consistently. His GPU is either a GTX 1650 or an RTX 3050.
He needs to add an additional 8GB RAM because just 1 stick of 8GB is definitely causing a hit on his FPS. Then just play around with the graphics setting.
Integrated no?
If some phones can run this consistently at 60, any GPU within the last six years will do fine enough. So a 1650 or 3050 wouldn't be the issue here, the CPU is the biggest bottle neck with this game.
No way his cpu is the part thats struggling. The most likely culprit is ram. 8 gigs is a criminally low amount in todays standards.
Pretty bad, my PC can only run around 30 fps, btw did fps only effect on MG ?
when you gotta p2w irl too 🤣
RTX 3070 + 10700k too nooby for NIKKE. Crazy times we live in!
think about it is crazy that they havent found a solution for this and no one complain about it
It's been like this since Modernia drop. People did voice their concerns back then, but nothing's done to solve it.
If you have an old phone / no PC / broke af, you're basically done.
It's probably programmed that way for phones. Probably requires less computation resources when MG is tied to fps, so phones don't stutter with the amount of objects on the screen.
Asking for PC specs on the first date.
hello, mr strimmer. can you share your current PC specs?
😮😮 But Can anyone give us the exact data on the damage based on phones (especially android cuz budget goes to rent and daily food intake)
So please I'm new but i really wanted the boss drop especially the module or that gem cuz i wanna BRRRRRR DAMAGE. And i already have my supports lvl 10 skills and bursts and even tank (especially Crown) 😊😊😊
Is there a wait list for account reviews?
People use channel points (gained just simply by watching me on twitch). Redeem the reward for account review (ideally at the start of the stream / not during new char release day / solo raid challenge mode day1) and if there's time for the stream (no other stream plans) then we do it (if not, then we do it in other days). No waitlist, it's whenever on the days we have time to do account reviews and someone redeems.
@@skyjlv gotcha, will have to catch you on more on Twitch, I mainly go to YT.
Imagine someone buying a 4080 or 4090 just for extra damage in Nikke. 😂
i7 6700k GTX 1080, 64 GB Ram, no lags, but not doing that much of damage.
This is why i regret investing in this game. Had no idea pc makes that much of a difference.
I had a phone with Helio G99 with everything in low and it was laggy, now I have a Poco F6 with SD 8sG3 and it runs smooth as silk 🤤
emmm, maybe that is why i am doing low damage. not my skill and investment. lol i think i have 60fps… too lazy to check…
It's sad for people like me who only play on mobile but at least scarlet bs carries and she is a roket luncher😅
Scarlet BS is extremely reliant on pc performance since you need to cancel her shots
@KittenCritters I don't think she works like that she needs a full charge shoots to trigger her first skill
@@phantom54000 Yes of course, but on a shit PC you can't shoot every time she reaches full charge without wasting frames.
@@KittenCritters yah you have to get used to it 😅
@@phantom54000 its not a question about being used to it or not, simply can’t be Done as fast on shit systems
the purest form of p2w
This kinda sucks cause I can’t aim for shit on PC. Maybe for my MG teams I’ll put them in “auto-based” teams so I can run on PC and not worry aiming
Holy fuck. My cpu is intel 5th gen...
60 fps = 60 bullets per second...I wish 240 fps = 240 bullets per second. 😁👍
Best definition of P2W
Soo sad,at first this game make for mobile, to play with onehand, but reality performance more Suitable on pc 😂
some phones can get nikke to 60 fps; Modernia was the reason i upgraded my phone last year lol
@@skyjlv good reason for buy new phone 😄, wht is u new phone type?
@@helmantailor1578 i'm using google pixel but i do have some reservations on it in terms of just gaming. I think other phones might have better gaming performance.
Wanna be good at nikke 10k on a PC but it's not ptw 😂
you: "The reason why you're doing less damage"
me: "skill issue"
For anyone blaming shift up and saying they need better optimization. You're wrong. Optimization can only go so far. Get job, work overtime, beg, or suck 🐓. Then use the extra money to buy yourself a current year flagship computer/phone. A good one too, not a fkn weird budget/mid tier machine
how come ragebait became this bad?
@@hardVatsuki I'm not baiting anyone. I'm just straight up telling poors to buy better sht
@@KeijiMaeda86 You think RTX 3070 + 10700k with 32 gigs of RAM is too nooby? Tell me
maybe i should consider buying a laptop for solo raid 😅🥲