I'm just incredibly bothered by how many people called the police saying they "saw the boys" but they actually didn't do anything? Like, take the boys and keep them? Anything? It could have been just scams or worse, a lottery try for the reward money. And these two boys are not alone. Day after day we see children in the streets begging and dismembered but we walk past them, praying that God will save them (I'm not an atheist) and do nothing about it. It's a shame that they had to start increasing the rewards pay for people to care about it.
@@copacetic8354 yes, but your dismissing it as if it is not a likely occurrence. Bad shit like this happens all of the time. He was just explaining as to why not many people would have seen it. Anyways have a good day, afternoon, night or morning.
Don’t understand how come someone can call the parents and say disgusting things to them. They already feel hopeless already still call them at night and say bad things. Wtf.
thats the most disgusting thing on earth. those people deserve to go the fking hell. what tf are they even thinking like bruh its just an innocent child wtf istg those pple who continue to traumatise them are disgusting too. they have no idea the trauma they be causing.
@@nps1547 the people who kidnapped them are just as bad and if the callers are those who harmed / abducted the kids, well honestly then they really do belong in hell.
@elle maybe you should think about what they meant instead. They know there were subtitles, they turned on auto-generated captions though, don’t assume.
In normal circumstances, probably. But when you are thrown to unknown place with unknown guys with bad intention.. it takes everything just to survive as an adult. Imagine that kind of situation happen to a kid.
im so sensitive when it comes to missing people. I just felt bad. I remember worrying about a 60 year old granpa missing poster nearby my school when i was 11. Wondering if they found him or is he okay while staring at his picture. I keep seeing that picture. And wondering what i would do if i found him by chance. If only all of us cared and be on guard of the stranger people we met. Maybe we could find the missing people. like a cctv ..
They didn't act fast enough. The child trafficking thing in thailand doesn't make sense because there are soo many underaged boys in thailand that are way easier to kidnap then in Singapore.
yeah but you know pedophiles. Sickos probably wanted ‘forbidden fruit’ and sought after high risks things like this. I hope the boys , wherever they are, can finally find peace
Yeah but it is easier for thailand to forget about missing singaporeans than missing thais. So in a way, though a much more expensive route, would have been alot safer in the long run.
its so sad thinking that their bags was never fetch by their owners and go home held tight on their backs. reminds me of my classmate who asks to absent that afternoon and left her bag staying still 3 days and 2 nights only to be fetched by her friend to her friends home because the bag cannot be fetch by her owner itself because the owner died 3 days later.. we grew up, but she wont grow up. its kinda sad to think that we cant see what she look like if she grows up. We already graduated to senior high school. But she remained on Grade 7. forever.
she died of heart disease because she kept quiet about what symptoms she felt in her heart for almost 1 year to her family.. i remember when we visit her funeral her dad told us that 'if we ever felt something wrong we should tell our parents' while showing us a record of my classmates last weak heartbeat before she died.
@@_ainyasupremacy1518 those time where you see them leave, assuming that theyll just come back dont worry.. and they never did. love everyone while theyre still here. make them feel loved
@@cczsus6513 not wrong but apparently from multiple sightings from people who have thought to have seen them, they were made to beg for money with their limbs chopped off
@@beckyysaurusaustine6498 I don't think it's proven. TBH I think it's more logical if the kidnapper went to China since the caller spoke hokkien plus the authorities never checked China and with a huge populations the kids would of blend right in.
@@cczsus6513 the sightings were in Thailand where a lot of kids were kidnaped back then again they were mere sightings no one is sure if it’s actually them
This is why kids shouldn't complain about their parents worried about them going missing or not answering the phone for 10 seconds. Edit: OKAY, FIRST OF ALL WHY DONT U GUYS UNDERSTAND THE SITUATION? If a parent calls a few times while their kid its out then it's fine, there's no reason to complain. But for example you went out for an hour, and u get calls every 2 minutes, then it's okay to complain, because ur parents can be overprotective at times and they need to calm down a bit. But in my situation, i find it annoying because there's always a 9-12 second gap each time I get calls from my parents. Then that is probably worth complaining a lot.
@Ronel Pader There's messaging your kids once in a while to make sure they're safe and there's messaging your kids every few minutes. The latter is a sign of a controlling behavior.
It's okay to call or message your kids while they're out. What's wrong is calling and messaging them every few minutes. That gets annoying. Your kids will ignore you more. Your paranoia won't protect them.
i remember last year i didn’t answer my mum’s calls after accidentally staying too long at a party. when i came home she was so mad and she said she was worried sick. i thought to myself, “she’s being so dramatic”. after watching this, i realise how she must’ve felt
My heart always breaks when I think of these 2 boys, thinking they might be somewhere, maimed and begging on the streets instead of happily being with their families. I was also P6 when they disappeared. This is partly why I never let my 2 boys out of my sight until they grew taller than me....Singapore is safe but not crimefree....
@@ruripapi Its super safe to me since Im from south africa. The worst thing ive seen here is some old man making a tantrum. Its very refreshing to not hear gun shots.
Damn, didn’t know singapore could have such a case. Living here, I find it really safe and I don’t mind going out on my own without parents but that’s probably because current Singapore is now safer and more advanced but wow.
@@xorngoh7303 omg I just read about the case. I really hope police would be able to open up the case and catch the perpetrator. Maybe the DNA evidence can reveal some clues.
God knows whether are they still alive. If they are, they will be 46 years old by now living somewhere else most likely. But even if not, they may be living under a different name legally overseas somewhere already. But i do agree that with the current tech of SG, the police should continue the search but very low chance they will reopen a cold case file. Plus, the families of these boys may alr be too old of an age to decide if the police should still continue this endless search.
I remember seeing their photos everywhere when I was a kid. It is so heartbreaking for all parties that they were taken away like that. Theory 1 seems legit.
What if they are in a different country, they dont have money nor a passport. And the trauma could have caused them some shock and result to some mental problems, they might forget lots of things by this day.
As in the video said. There is a crime syndicate where they kidnap children and cut of their limbs and make them blind. They woukd be helpless. The trauma would also make them forget where they are from. Their love ones or even themselves
@Brielle dont ask to change Police coming to question people in the schools, police searching in drains around the school, putting up Missing Person posters all around my neighbour, teacher telling us that 2 of our upper primary classmate is missing and to look out and inform police or teacher asap, etc, etc...
Brielle dont ask to change Yup! Although crimes are common in that era but Missing Kids and Suspected Kidnapping cases of this kind isn’t very common. Parents of all students in our Primary School were all on high alert for a few months at least after it happened.
I remember when I was 10, my friend and I hid somewhere and our parents were so worried that we had gone missing, even though it was only for 1-2 minutes, I cannot imagine how those boys' parents must of felt.
Nah most prob it is the dad. If there was a kidnapping candy man, there would be more cases of missing children. And it is pretty well known, that in cases of abduction or rape, it is always someone they know very well. Either family member or family friend. Same case of Huang Na.
Great job to whoever who did this video. Can see loads of research has been done. Theory two is unlikely. A syndicate will not waste time in Singapore. Easier in neighboring countries. Its pretty obvious the father did it. Only the power of a parent will drive someone to do such a thing. A pity the police couldnt charge him then.. Only consolation is such cases will be rare in times today...with the technology we have today.. though still hurt for the two families who wouldnt ever have closure..
so what did the father likely do with the boys? Somehow I don't think he planned to kill him, since he asked his mistress if she was willing to take care of him.
Yeetus Defeetus There are “leashes” for toddlers, they typically involve tying you and your child by the wrist to each other so that they’ll always be near you, some even include locks that can be only opened with a key that’s attached to the adult’s wrist.
recently a little child was almost abducted outside the day care. a foreign national was trying to take a little child away . it is a known fact only registered family member can take the child home. a very observant teacher noticed the man with the child and stopped them. she called the home of the child. the uncle of the child is supposed to take the child home. when she called he answered. the teacher asked him if he had asked another person to take the child back home. He said no! he hurried to the school to take the child . By then the man had left and disappeared. dont know if he was caught. PLEASE all child minders, do not let your eyes off the child for one minute!
Before pandemic, someone from my country share her story. She was in a train with her baby, and a pair of mother and son sit near them. They chat and the woman ask about the baby's information, which kinda alert the young mother so when asked she gave false answers. When they were getting out of the train, the other woman tried to take the baby from the real mother, while her son saying the real mother kidnap "his baby sister". The baby was almost taken forcefully but thank God the baby's grandparents (who picked up their daughter and grandchild) cpme and rescue them. It's so terrifying when I first read it.
@@moniqjen its going on in every country. its horrible when children are kidnapped and ill treated and made to beg or worse child p rostitution. i cant imagine.. those poor babies . this world is suffering ...karma.
I think we can safely put the syndicate theory to rest. It would be a different story if there was demand for ransom, but no syndicate will kidnap 2 primary school boys just to smuggle them oversees to become beggars. They could as easily kidnap kids from within Thailand or Indonesia.
Except that kidnapping kids from different country will make it much harder for them to blow the cover or attempt to escape if they were in fact to be used in handicapped begging scheme. Exactly why the many beggers you used to see on the street of Bangkok are not Thais but Cambodians.
@@avcomth I can totally understand why cartels would kidnap children from a poorer country to smuggle to a richer one, but why bother to abduct a kid in Singapore to bring to a poorer neighbouring country? If they are after money, they could do better holding the kid for ransom.
@@avcomth Why not kidnap someone from Vietnam, Cambodia. or Laos instead? bringing 2 kids from Singapore to Thailand so they can turn them into puppet beggars is a huge waste of money.
Yuyun Ningsih by now, if they are alive, the 2 boys would be full adults, around 30 - 40, I am pretty sure that by now they have been starved or killed, but we can only hope that they live to this day
Singapore has detention without trail ISA. Why police didn’t detain the estranged father until he confess? No one will kidnap a child not for money (ruled out) Or love.
i don't know man but i'll go with that they'd probably died long ago. unless both of them have lost their memory somehow i think they'd be at least interested to go back to where they came from / their background being 40+ now. I don't buy the syndicate theory thou. It would be so much easier to kidnap kids to do such stuff in their countries than take the risk to bring 2 kids through customs to do such thing. And i don't think begging will net the perpetrator a good profit for such risks involved.
Or perhaps its a combination of both theories, his biological father is involved in the syndicate and wasn't able to find children in time so desperation led him to offer his own child +1 as sacrifice
I still remembered when I was young maybe around 5 or 6 years old, I was almost kidnapped. Some man just snatched my right hand and attempted to pull me away from my mom whom I was walking behind from. I was so scared I shouted for my mom and grabbed her hand with my left hand. When confronted, the man just say he mistoke me for his child. This all happened in broad daylight in Singapore.
Was just chatting with mum about this case a day ago. Thanks for the research. Forgot why they were called McDonald’s kids. What luck this popped up!!!
They are same cases in China, a boy who have lose his family for 34 years has finally reunited with his family, turns out he was kidnapped but by luck, he was adopted. I hope the McDonalds boys are safe
The reason why I bring a Long umbrella with me when I go out. Just use the umbrella as a spear and defend yourself.The umbrella is sharp enough to piece a person’s heart so if you are ever in danger, just defend yourself with umbrella
I overheard at my regular optical shop from one of the customers that he saw them at BKK, mute and limbs all amputated...he recognised it was them immediately but when he went back to look for them again, they were gone
Stealing children and amputating their limbs and cutting off their tongues are what they do to earn money where they get the children to beg for money in thailand especially.... its horrible...
This is absolutely horrific. Singapore is so safe and it’s so horrible that this happened there. I remember I even walked through the avenues of Singapore alone that’s how safe it is. I feel so bad for the families that had to go through this.
My theory is that the boys got kidnapped and killed in Singapore and the killer hid the two boys bodies somewhere safe and unknown. Second theory, they got kidnapped and bought to other countries in the world besides Malaysia, Indonesia and Thailand. Third theory, they could be kidnapped and bought to somewhere in Thailand, Indonesia and Malaysia,however the kidnapper may know how to evade police detection and being swift and careful in their actions so as to avoid the law catching up with them.
In that era I think many kids are kidnapped and mostly amputated and brought to other countries to get donation on the street. That's what the teachers always warned us about. Sad but still hoping that they are fine and will be like a news I saw, where the missing boy grew up and saw his own missing notice and found his family.
When i was 12 yo, i was separated with my parents at mall. I am panic, my parents panic. Thankfully i always look surrounding and found security. I know how it feels, and my parents also told me how they feels. So i feel sorry with both of the kids and parents, hope they can find peace now.
My family and I go to Singapore on holiday every Easter (we live in the UK), but because of COVID, we have been unable to go (both this year and last year). Singapore is a very safe place to visit, but as soon as I saw this video, I realised that that was not the case 30 years ago.
I am aware of the fact that due to my lake of empathy, I will feel emotionally drained after watching these kind of videos. Yet I still decide to click on them and hurt my own feelings :(
The thing about this that makes this more worst and scarier is somebody did all of this and knew how it happened but won't bother to say it to the world.
Their school not far from Tekka..... Previous years before two Malay boys about their age also disappeared. Later after several years one couple weny on holiday in India have met one of the boy who claimed he was kidnapped with another boy from Spore and brought to India by ship but his friend already passed away. Its so sad that the couple never take any rasional action to send that boy to Spore Embassy there but leaved the boy with some money only.
it's disgusting how some ppl acually dont care, and they ACUALLY DO THIS to ppl, what would they feel if someone took THEIR children, and never give them back?
They went to my school for one day and completely dissapeared the next day. Noone knows where he went off to but this video helped me accept the fact that they got abducted
i think there's not much chance for them to be alive. IF they really were brought into a syndicate, they most likely would have been killed or abandoned for death after they no longer look pitiful... but the theory about the dad, they may be alive with another identity... their legally dead though, so not much hope
I think I saw one of these boys in an Instagram post about Human trafficking. It was a picture of a dismembered body. but the face looked really similar to Toh Hong Huat. I just know Instagram took down the post. I really hope they are fine.
I don't know about Singapore's law but if I'm right (correct me if I'm not) in most countries police will only declare them missing and search for them 24 hours after they've gone missing with no news. We don't know if they truly wait till night before calling the police, or if they call the police earlier but the search started later. And they were searching everywhere else while waiting for the police's search
i heard on a capital 958 radio show a reporter from the 80's said the boys maybe playing in a canal drowned and their bodies washed out to the big sea that's why never found
I don't know why they known as McDonald's Boys. Is anyone still watching this at 7 months. This is why I do not like walking into the shops alone. Cause I get really scared if I get snatched by someone. I had a nightmare about it. 😓😭
theory one seems legit, cause.. if he literally said he'd find a way to talk to his son, and then his son goes missing? i dont know, doesnt sound like a coincidence
The most disgusting thing is that someone in this world knows exactly what happened..
What if.... You put knew instead of knows because maybe someone knew but the kidnappers drugged him or her
It's a him
Why do you say someone knows exactly what happened? Are you referring to the one who abducted them?
I'm just incredibly bothered by how many people called the police saying they "saw the boys" but they actually didn't do anything? Like, take the boys and keep them? Anything? It could have been just scams or worse, a lottery try for the reward money.
And these two boys are not alone. Day after day we see children in the streets begging and dismembered but we walk past them, praying that God will save them (I'm not an atheist) and do nothing about it. It's a shame that they had to start increasing the rewards pay for people to care about it.
@@krosskross1221 yea it's lame
Imagine the amount of people that saw them but they didnt know they were missing children
... i don't believe they're alive to be seen anymore
@中村奈々 that was unnecessary
@@copacetic8354 its possible that the boys were sexually assaulted, it's probably wrong but its a guess
@@RoKsI03 I know, but it’s still something horribly awful to talk about
@@copacetic8354 yes, but your dismissing it as if it is not a likely occurrence. Bad shit like this happens all of the time. He was just explaining as to why not many people would have seen it. Anyways have a good day, afternoon, night or morning.
I cant even imagine how broken the parents feel,.. i was panicking when i lost my son for 10 seconds,.
I panicked a little if i lost my mom in the supermarket
I panicked when
@@angrykrabs9968 I panick
@@rainerongchannel I
wow i can feel your pain just through that comment even though im not a parent
If only they had the amount of CCTVs we now have back in those days.
Exactly. Many mysteries could be solved in many ways of tracing and the culprits could have potentially been caught
Yeah. Now the Singapore is heavily guarded
There was literally no CCTV. Except in high security areas such as banks, airport etc
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Haha. if they were in this time, they would probably be found.
Don’t understand how come someone can call the parents and say disgusting things to them. They already feel hopeless already still call them at night and say bad things. Wtf.
Sadism is a scary thing
I wouldn't be surprised if the callers were the kidnappers of the children. After all, they refused to reveal their identities.
thats the most disgusting thing on earth. those people deserve to go the fking hell. what tf are they even thinking like bruh its just an innocent child wtf istg those pple who continue to traumatise them are disgusting too. they have no idea the trauma they be causing.
@@nps1547 the people who kidnapped them are just as bad and if the callers are those who harmed / abducted the kids, well honestly then they really do belong in hell.
Maybe that guy is the one that made them missing till now? Like kidnapped them???
The macdonald boys. I thought they disappeared at macdonalds but instead macdonalds scarificed do much money just to find them
😂
lol what
Me too bruh
Same here
Same
McDonald's offered $100k?
Hats off to them.
@Crystanium 🤣🤣
@Crystanium Lol
They knew, there is no scenario in which they'll have to pay that amount ie., They knew the boys weren't coming back. ☮️
if it was burger king it would be like 50k
@@lqf72l96 bruh stfu
The narrator speaks so clearly that even the auto-generated captions know what he’s saying
Its a weird combo of accents.
@@KHobbies_cina :/
@elle maybe you should think about what they meant instead. They know there were subtitles, they turned on auto-generated captions though, don’t assume.
@elle it clearly says auto-generated
@elle dude you check before commenting
At 12 years old, they were old enough to remember things. If they are still alive, somehow, they could find their way back home...?
If its like, humna trafficking though, drugs would be involved likely, and they do a lot to a person's willpower and memory, much less to children.
In normal circumstances, probably. But when you are thrown to unknown place with unknown guys with bad intention.. it takes everything just to survive as an adult. Imagine that kind of situation happen to a kid.
Could've broke their limbs and used them to beg for money on streets? My parents used to use this to scare me :P
They are dead
im so sensitive when it comes to missing people. I just felt bad. I remember worrying about a 60 year old granpa missing poster nearby my school when i was 11. Wondering if they found him or is he okay while staring at his picture. I keep seeing that picture. And wondering what i would do if i found him by chance.
If only all of us cared and be on guard of the stranger people we met. Maybe we could find the missing people. like a cctv ..
They may be adults now
They are they said they were 46 years old now
I see you every where omg 😂
Hey its you again
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Ray Mak imma big fan
poor boys cant imagine what their families are going through
Poor boys, I can’t even imagine what their families are going through. I feel so bad for them*
@@thidinh7716 no one gives a fuck about those mistakes tbh
@@fionaries1324 just cause u were a mistake doesn't mean everyone is😂😂
@@tanyasingh5525 dang bro you roasted him hard, he turned into a burnt steak
It’s been over 30 years lol
They didn't act fast enough. The child trafficking thing in thailand doesn't make sense because there are soo many underaged boys in thailand that are way easier to kidnap then in Singapore.
Barboo b tru
yeah but you know pedophiles. Sickos probably wanted ‘forbidden fruit’ and sought after high risks things like this. I hope the boys , wherever they are, can finally find peace
Yeah but it is easier for thailand to forget about missing singaporeans than missing thais. So in a way, though a much more expensive route, would have been alot safer in the long run.
This comment sounds suspect as hell🤔
@@Johnny127ful ??
Dang it. If only they had high tech security they would’ve gotten a lead
This is why schools need to hire security guards and other forms or surveillance like cctv’s
I identify as a panzer 1 ausf A, this was 34 years ago.
Leah Dada ik that
Leah Dada but security guards were a thing back then
Leah Dada and cctv’s were invented earlier
its so sad thinking that their bags was never fetch by their owners and go home held tight on their backs.
reminds me of my classmate who asks to absent that afternoon and left her bag staying still 3 days and 2 nights only to be fetched by her friend to her friends home because the bag cannot be fetch by her owner itself because the owner died 3 days later..
we grew up, but she wont grow up. its kinda sad to think that we cant see what she look like if she grows up. We already graduated to senior high school. But she remained on Grade 7. forever.
she died of heart disease because she kept quiet about what symptoms she felt in her heart for almost 1 year to her family..
i remember when we visit her funeral her dad told us that 'if we ever felt something wrong we should tell our parents' while showing us a record of my classmates last weak heartbeat before she died.
It's remind me of my 2 classmates and my teacher back in junior high, they will always remember by us
@@_ainyasupremacy1518 those time where you see them leave, assuming that theyll just come back dont worry.. and they never did.
love everyone while theyre still here. make them feel loved
Pag sure anak
Sorry for you man
wait this isn't buzzfeed unsolved
that's what I thought too
SG unsolved
I didn’t know that either
Unsolved wannabe
Me : Mom can we watch Buzzfeed Unsolved?
Mom : We already watch Buzzfeed Unsolved at home.
Buzzfeed Unsolved at home :
The fact that they are classified dead but could still be alive is sad both their parents are probably gone now :(
I mean if they are alive won't they go back?
@@cczsus6513 not wrong but apparently from multiple sightings from people who have thought to have seen them, they were made to beg for money with their limbs chopped off
@@beckyysaurusaustine6498 I don't think it's proven. TBH I think it's more logical if the kidnapper went to China since the caller spoke hokkien plus the authorities never checked China and with a huge populations the kids would of blend right in.
@@cczsus6513 the sightings were in Thailand where a lot of kids were kidnaped back then again they were mere sightings no one is sure if it’s actually them
@@beckyysaurusaustine6498 Ya that's the problem but how would the kidnapper blend into the group where he doesn't belong with kidnapped kids?
This is why kids shouldn't complain about their parents worried about them going missing or not answering the phone for 10 seconds.
Edit: OKAY, FIRST OF ALL WHY DONT U GUYS UNDERSTAND THE SITUATION? If a parent calls a few times while their kid its out then it's fine, there's no reason to complain. But for example you went out for an hour, and u get calls every 2 minutes, then it's okay to complain, because ur parents can be overprotective at times and they need to calm down a bit. But in my situation, i find it annoying because there's always a 9-12 second gap each time I get calls from my parents. Then that is probably worth complaining a lot.
@Ronel Pader There's messaging your kids once in a while to make sure they're safe and there's messaging your kids every few minutes. The latter is a sign of a controlling behavior.
It's okay to call or message your kids while they're out. What's wrong is calling and messaging them every few minutes. That gets annoying. Your kids will ignore you more. Your paranoia won't protect them.
@@HannahDecember Yes, this is the situation I am in. I get calls every 10 seconds for no absolute reason every day and it's annoying me.
@@alyxr121 This is what I'm talking about. I understand if it's every hour but not every 10 seconds.
i remember last year i didn’t answer my mum’s calls after accidentally staying too long at a party. when i came home she was so mad and she said she was worried sick. i thought to myself, “she’s being so dramatic”. after watching this, i realise how she must’ve felt
My heart always breaks when I think of these 2 boys, thinking they might be somewhere, maimed and begging on the streets instead of happily being with their families. I was also P6 when they disappeared. This is partly why I never let my 2 boys out of my sight until they grew taller than me....Singapore is safe but not crimefree....
Now that the boys had grew taller than you, have you ever let yourself our of sight?
They probably expected something like this could happen to them, and at that age too. They had so much ahead of their lives.
Singapore is fine now cctv everywhere. Dont stress too much.
@@anti-leveled142 nah it's not really that safe but yes the crimerate is low but it's not really safe
@@ruripapi Its super safe to me since Im from south africa. The worst thing ive seen here is some old man making a tantrum. Its very refreshing to not hear gun shots.
Damn, didn’t know singapore could have such a case. Living here, I find it really safe and I don’t mind going out on my own without parents but that’s probably because current Singapore is now safer and more advanced but wow.
If this terrifies you, wait till you see the case of the Geylang Bahru murders. 3 or 4 children were brutally murdered in cold blood.
@@xorngoh7303 my mom just told me about this case weeks ago. scary!
@@xorngoh7303 omg I just read about the case. I really hope police would be able to open up the case and catch the perpetrator. Maybe the DNA evidence can reveal some clues.
Human trafficking is still very well a thing around the world my guy
I live in HK, and I often visit Singapore. Now I am more then scared to go back there again :(
The part that hits me the most was that they had not found them or have any trace after the incident despite all the callers help.
This boy get isekai
most likely dead just dk how the kidnappee hide the body only.
Most of those calls were hoaxes tho. Whenever there is a case, there is someone who makes pranks to the families of the victims
Perhaps with the advances of today’s technology and stuff, the SG police could continue the search
God knows whether are they still alive. If they are, they will be 46 years old by now living somewhere else most likely. But even if not, they may be living under a different name legally overseas somewhere already. But i do agree that with the current tech of SG, the police should continue the search but very low chance they will reopen a cold case file. Plus, the families of these boys may alr be too old of an age to decide if the police should still continue this endless search.
@@jonjonhyper8324 Yup. DNA, retina, fingerprints can never be changed.
jeanettemiley they had probably already forgot about the case/incident
I remember seeing their photos everywhere when I was a kid. It is so heartbreaking for all parties that they were taken away like that. Theory 1 seems legit.
You must be very old.
@@gmr2gnr She'd likely be 43. Still young.
Probably bringing her own grandchildren now to macdonalds. 🤭❤️
Actually theory 2 is also possible I mean Thailand is really like that
@@gmr2gnr You will be old too. Shut up.
i feel so bad for the mother who’s last interaction with her son was letting him go to school alone
If the boys are still alive, at the age of 46 yrs old they should be old enough to come back to look for their family.
What if they are in a different country, they dont have money nor a passport. And the trauma could have caused them some shock and result to some mental problems, they might forget lots of things by this day.
As in the video said. There is a crime syndicate where they kidnap children and cut of their limbs and make them blind. They woukd be helpless. The trauma would also make them forget where they are from. Their love ones or even themselves
Enviotonin85 how would they know how to get back if they haven’t finish their education
@@ribbonator stupid idiot they are smart enough to know what planes are
@@ribbonator This is the stupidest question I have ever seen.
those people so scary bro
It's just a theory, it's not proven yet
Safe? Its been 34 years. I highly doubt it sadly.
Mei Chong tf does black lives matter have to do with this
Mei Chong he can support black lives matter?
@@meichong8278 i don't think it's that deep bruh u abit sot i think the person was just tryna be optimistic and hope they doing well
How Awful. I can't imagine the pain of their families feel. I hope they're still alive. 🙏
I guess this is why my teachers freak out when we leave the class without telling them
They could be arrested for that i think
plus, they could be charged for neglect and accused as a student's abductor
@@linky3678 some teachers kill their students
they obly care abt money
@@iloveseals3yearsago993 there are those who really care abt the students, not saying they're not doing it for the money, but there r those who care.
Both boys are from my Primary School and watching this clip brings back alot of sad memories of that happening.
@Brielle dont ask to change
Police coming to question people in the schools, police searching in drains around the school, putting up Missing Person posters all around my neighbour, teacher telling us that 2 of our upper primary classmate is missing and to look out and inform police or teacher asap, etc, etc...
Brielle dont ask to change
Yup! Although crimes are common in that era but Missing Kids and Suspected Kidnapping cases of this kind isn’t very common. Parents of all students in our Primary School were all on high alert for a few months at least after it happened.
Shut up
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@Yeetus Defeetus not argentina sexy usa japan france thinking they can have a valid opinion.
I remember when I was 10, my friend and I hid somewhere and our parents were so worried that we had gone missing, even though it was only for 1-2 minutes, I cannot imagine how those boys' parents must of felt.
Could be the guy who sell the candy was kidnapping them
oh yeah, that makes sense
Get into my van for free candy
Nah most prob it is the dad. If there was a kidnapping candy man, there would be more cases of missing children.
And it is pretty well known, that in cases of abduction or rape, it is always someone they know very well. Either family member or family friend.
Same case of Huang Na.
There's a new movie title Candy Man
JK JAKS possible but unlikely
Great job to whoever who did this video. Can see loads of research has been done.
Theory two is unlikely. A syndicate will not waste time in Singapore. Easier in neighboring countries.
Its pretty obvious the father did it. Only the power of a parent will drive someone to do such a thing. A pity the police couldnt charge him then..
Only consolation is such cases will be rare in times today...with the technology we have today.. though still hurt for the two families who wouldnt ever have closure..
The father sounded very suspicious to me too
I agree, but why would he kidnap the second child if it wasn’t his?
@@Milk-Teas probably because the friend would have recognised the father and reported him to the police if he let him go
Alex because the friend was with him so if he let him go he would’ve witnessed what had happen and report it
so what did the father likely do with the boys? Somehow I don't think he planned to kill him, since he asked his mistress if she was willing to take care of him.
Now I see why my mom kept me on a leash as a toddler
Yeetus Defeetus There are “leashes” for toddlers, they typically involve tying you and your child by the wrist to each other so that they’ll always be near you, some even include locks that can be only opened with a key that’s attached to the adult’s wrist.
@Diesel patches Is my Dad wassup
They should not have release Hong Huat’s father he could have hold him for a lie detector test
Lie detectors dont work
But legally that had to release him. There wasn’t enough evidence to give them the right to question him so they had to release him
Lie detector is the most useless thing created,Just stay calm and your good
@Lee Zhi Ying Jsabelle Student took me a while to realise you were speaking singlish -_-
Lie detector don't detect lies.... It just reads your heart rates
recently a little child was almost abducted outside the day care. a foreign national was trying to take a little child away . it is a known fact only registered family member can take the child home. a very observant teacher noticed the man with the child and stopped them. she called the home of the child. the uncle of the child is supposed to take the child home. when she called he answered. the teacher asked him if he had asked another person to take the child back home. He said no! he hurried to the school to take the child . By then the man had left and disappeared. dont know if he was caught. PLEASE all child minders, do not let your eyes off the child for one minute!
Yep
Before pandemic, someone from my country share her story. She was in a train with her baby, and a pair of mother and son sit near them. They chat and the woman ask about the baby's information, which kinda alert the young mother so when asked she gave false answers. When they were getting out of the train, the other woman tried to take the baby from the real mother, while her son saying the real mother kidnap "his baby sister". The baby was almost taken forcefully but thank God the baby's grandparents (who picked up their daughter and grandchild) cpme and rescue them.
It's so terrifying when I first read it.
@@moniqjen its going on in every country. its horrible when children are kidnapped and ill treated and made to beg or worse child p rostitution. i cant imagine.. those poor babies . this world is suffering ...karma.
When I get kids I'm giving the leashes
womp womp lmao 😂
Leashes go brrrrrrr
XD
@Spenca Lmao that wouldn't work
@@ManaSamaLover. they were joking lmao
I think we can safely put the syndicate theory to rest. It would be a different story if there was demand for ransom, but no syndicate will kidnap 2 primary school boys just to smuggle them oversees to become beggars. They could as easily kidnap kids from within Thailand or Indonesia.
Except that kidnapping kids from different country will make it much harder for them to blow the cover or attempt to escape if they were in fact to be used in handicapped begging scheme. Exactly why the many beggers you used to see on the street of Bangkok are not Thais but Cambodians.
@@avcomth I can totally understand why cartels would kidnap children from a poorer country to smuggle to a richer one, but why bother to abduct a kid in Singapore to bring to a poorer neighbouring country? If they are after money, they could do better holding the kid for ransom.
@@hochinchuan3755 Info: Many kids were kidnapped in Indonesia
@@avcomth Why not kidnap someone from Vietnam, Cambodia. or Laos instead? bringing 2 kids from Singapore to Thailand so they can turn them into puppet beggars is a huge waste of money.
My prayers that the boy will be found and can be reunited with his family. Don't loose hope keep praying and believe in God
Yuyun Ningsih by now, if they are alive, the 2 boys would be full adults, around 30 - 40, I am pretty sure that by now they have been starved or killed, but we can only hope that they live to this day
I'm surprised that nobody said "God doesn't exist" and started a 300 reply long comment war in the matter of 1 year
I might have jinxed it
Singapore has detention without trail ISA. Why police didn’t detain the estranged father until he confess? No one will kidnap a child not for money (ruled out) Or love.
Very hard to say
That one forced confession already or confession out of desperation. Useless one, won’t help find the boys
Wow.. didn’t know about this... may they rest in peace if they are really dead by now.
Part of me hopes they are still alive and part of me doesn’t as they might be getting tortured every day.
😁
@@rodolfotsang4327 excuse me why the laughing emoji
@@silvasen1985 😂
Argentina Sexy USA Japan France lol you’re probably European
i heard this story and the second theory when i was little, it hurts to know that this case is still unsolved til this day
i don't know man but i'll go with that they'd probably died long ago. unless both of them have lost their memory somehow i think they'd be at least interested to go back to where they came from / their background being 40+ now.
I don't buy the syndicate theory thou. It would be so much easier to kidnap kids to do such stuff in their countries than take the risk to bring 2 kids through customs to do such thing. And i don't think begging will net the perpetrator a good profit for such risks involved.
Or it could be a case of human trafficking
agree
But quite a number of kids in Malaysia have been kidnapped by the notorious grey Thai vans. When it comes to doing evil, there are no boundaries.
But there are a lot of child trafficking involved up to this date
Or perhaps its a combination of both theories, his biological father is involved in the syndicate and wasn't able to find children in time so desperation led him to offer his own child +1 as sacrifice
You want to perhaps can one million perhaps.
This so heartbreaking when Hong huat's mother is not his real mother but take care of him and sacrifice her everything
i feel bad for those boys they and their families suffered a lot
Yeah
I still remembered when I was young maybe around 5 or 6 years old, I was almost kidnapped. Some man just snatched my right hand and attempted to pull me away from my mom whom I was walking behind from. I was so scared I shouted for my mom and grabbed her hand with my left hand. When confronted, the man just say he mistoke me for his child. This all happened in broad daylight in Singapore.
Such a mystery
Only hope that the boys find peace ...
Was just chatting with mum about this case a day ago. Thanks for the research. Forgot why they were called McDonald’s kids.
What luck this popped up!!!
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It scares me how you could be walking next to a missing person, or seeing someone for the last time without knowing it.
They are same cases in China, a boy who have lose his family for 34 years has finally reunited with his family, turns out he was kidnapped but by luck, he was adopted. I hope the McDonalds boys are safe
The reason why I bring a Long umbrella with me when I go out.
Just use the umbrella as a spear and defend yourself.The umbrella is sharp enough to piece a person’s heart so if you are ever in danger, just defend yourself with umbrella
I overheard at my regular optical shop from one of the customers that he saw them at BKK, mute and limbs all amputated...he recognised it was them immediately but when he went back to look for them again, they were gone
That is fucking scary
What's BKK?
Bkk?
Bruh thats terrifying
Stealing children and amputating their limbs and cutting off their tongues are what they do to earn money where they get the children to beg for money in thailand especially.... its horrible...
This is absolutely horrific. Singapore is so safe and it’s so horrible that this happened there. I remember I even walked through the avenues of Singapore alone that’s how safe it is. I feel so bad for the families that had to go through this.
Rumour heard was that they were trafficked to Thailand / Vietnam, seen begging on street as handicap with limbs chopped and tongues cut. Very tragic.
Yes it happens in many Asian countries.
It's also reminds me of a boy disappearance case which happened in Malaysia, Ting Song Seng which remains mystery. God bless.
Is it the Klang one?
that date is one of my best friends’ birthday, kinda creeps me out
My theory is that the boys got kidnapped and killed in Singapore and the killer hid the two boys bodies somewhere safe and unknown.
Second theory, they got kidnapped and bought to other countries in the world besides Malaysia, Indonesia and Thailand.
Third theory, they could be kidnapped and bought to somewhere in Thailand, Indonesia and Malaysia,however the kidnapper may know how to evade police detection and being swift and careful in their actions so as to avoid the law catching up with them.
My mom told me that last time got a lot rumors said that the person who kidnapped them chopped off their body
In that era I think many kids are kidnapped and mostly amputated and brought to other countries to get donation on the street. That's what the teachers always warned us about. Sad but still hoping that they are fine and will be like a news I saw, where the missing boy grew up and saw his own missing notice and found his family.
I feel so sorry for the boys and parents they had to suffer for so many years and missed out in there birthdays and family times😭😢
This video showed up in my recommended and I love it. More of these typess of videos please
Prolly the dad,, he has the number of the parents as he could contact them
I bet some of his friends would find him some how. I should think this should be the boy’s wake up call
SINGAPORE’S BUZZFEED LETS GO
In a good way though👌🏻👌🏻
thats bad
Why?
Ztzy why is it bad
Really giving me BuzzFeed Unsolved vibes here
That’s why children, they why if your in school, you NEVER leave you school ONKY with your parents
_ Classic _ yo thnx for the advice:)
*laughs in public transport*
Should also learn self defense so if they even try to do it to you they are going to after life
@@sainteleven lmao well not really he can just knock them out or make them run away or if he kills them for self defense well most likely he will not
"they why if your in school" "ONKY" ??????
I hope these boys are resting peacefully now, or are still alive and living well. Whatever the case is, I hope they are ok.
When i was 12 yo, i was separated with my parents at mall. I am panic, my parents panic. Thankfully i always look surrounding and found security. I know how it feels, and my parents also told me how they feels. So i feel sorry with both of the kids and parents, hope they can find peace now.
the phone call is probably the most disturbing part of this
Mothership "unanswered"
Imagine, you and your homie go missing and 34 years down the line you two get the nickname "McDonald's Boys"
It is highly unlikely that they were abducted by syndicates because there were no other cases of missing children in that era. Am I right on that?
I was still a boy then and now I am an old man. I wish them well and will appear again
My family and I go to Singapore on holiday every Easter (we live in the UK), but because of COVID, we have been unable to go (both this year and last year). Singapore is a very safe place to visit, but as soon as I saw this video, I realised that that was not the case 30 years ago.
I just watched the frog boys disappearances and now this :o
same also. i also watch the frog boy before this but frog boy at least knew that they re dead and this no.
Roblox person
Frog boys were killed by the Korean army firing squad n the military covered it up.
@@appor7578 wait so that how it happen?
@@hongpam8739 ok
I am aware of the fact that due to my lake of empathy, I will feel emotionally drained
after watching these kind of videos.
Yet I still decide to click on them and hurt my own feelings :(
They will not be able to fulfill their dreams broke my hearts :(
If only security cameras would’ve been invented back then, we’d still get more information and evidence whether their Alive or not.
The thing about this that makes this more worst and scarier is somebody did all of this and knew how it happened but won't bother to say it to the world.
That's so sad... if they still alive I hope they are doing fine, but if they don't... Rest In Peace
damn, when i read "may 14" i had goosebumps cause it's the day i was born-
this is so upsetting
Their school not far from Tekka.....
Previous years before two Malay boys about their age also disappeared. Later after several years one couple weny on holiday in India have met one of the boy who claimed he was kidnapped with another boy from Spore and brought to India by ship but his friend already passed away. Its so sad that the couple never take any rasional action to send that boy to Spore Embassy there but leaved the boy with some money only.
it's disgusting how some ppl acually dont care, and they ACUALLY DO THIS to ppl, what would they feel if someone took THEIR children, and never give them back?
Sounds like SG version's "SERIES"
You mean “Serial”?
Would it be nice if this will appear on buzzfeed unsolved?
@@muilengchang I mean this case isn't really well known out of sg so probably no
I really thought McDonald kidnapped the boys😭👏 but no they went to get sweets and disappear swish swash swoosh
I still think it’s suspicious that McDonald’s randomly offered a hundred thousand for information
@@jcreationz6235 ive seen mcdonald offered for long peroid cold cases so its not sus
@@AK1T0YA McDonalds is impostor
@@FroxyProxy i
Hope they are ok and found soon.
That was 34 years ago
Tru
Most likely won't be...
They went to my school for one day and completely dissapeared the next day. Noone knows where he went off to but this video helped me accept the fact that they got abducted
Seeing your child dead is pain
Not knowing whether your child is dead is grief
i think there's not much chance for them to be alive. IF they really were brought into a syndicate, they most likely would have been killed or abandoned for death after they no longer look pitiful... but the theory about the dad, they may be alive with another identity... their legally dead though, so not much hope
Kdramia true.. haiz
TechGamerBoy just sad man. why kidnap children for money? aiya
I think I saw one of these boys in an Instagram post about Human trafficking. It was a picture of a dismembered body. but the face looked really similar to Toh Hong Huat. I just know Instagram took down the post. I really hope they are fine.
Ah I feel bad for the mother 😭😭
Thank you for making this clips about the boys
The sad part is that someone somewhere is capable of this. And they won't speak up.
I remember this! It is heartbreaking!
buzzfeed unsolved but it’s singapore
Hey same comment! :D
They should call the police earlier tho.
I don't know about Singapore's law but if I'm right (correct me if I'm not) in most countries police will only declare them missing and search for them 24 hours after they've gone missing with no news.
We don't know if they truly wait till night before calling the police, or if they call the police earlier but the search started later. And they were searching everywhere else while waiting for the police's search
Grace Natalia oooh I see
The sad thing is, despite modern technology and CCTV recordings being everywhere, people are still missing.
I like how your channel has subtitles :) this way i can watch it while having class
i heard on a capital 958 radio show a reporter from the 80's said the boys maybe playing in a canal drowned and their bodies washed out to the big sea that's why never found
I look over my lil bro like a frickin' hawk
It has been reported before. The 2 boys are gangster in JB now. It was a revenge by the relatives and brought the 2 to JB. They are NOT dead.
Proof?
Source?
@@jxcreativedesign I remember read it in Chinese newspaper.
Which. Newspaper
@@ChuChuAndAhBa Should be Wanbao or Xin Min Ri Bao.... How true i dont know. I rather believe the story of them gangsters in JB.
I don't know why they known as McDonald's Boys. Is anyone still watching this at 7 months. This is why I do not like walking into the shops alone. Cause I get really scared if I get snatched by someone. I had a nightmare about it. 😓😭
theory one seems legit, cause.. if he literally said he'd find a way to talk to his son, and then his son goes missing? i dont know, doesnt sound like a coincidence