All Signs Point to a Rebuild for the Chicago Bulls
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Discussing what the direction will be for the Chicago Bulls and why a rebuild is imminent heading into free agency
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@BullsCentral I'm not sure I agree. Buzelis was the best talent available by far, and he fit our need (pf with size). Giddey is young but he has started in more than 200 games. I think we're just trying to get younger, becoming a high pace team. You need picks to rebuild...They would have traded Caruso for picks, in this weak draft we could have for sure gotten 2 picks (one for this draft & one for 2026)
PATRICK WILLIAMS RE SIGNS 5yr 90M
@@BryceWhite-j5i Thanks for letting me. That's actually a really good price for him.
Lonzo Balls knee ruined our entire potential. We were literally the best team in the east at one point 😢
We were the best bumslayers. We killed bad teams. That said, there is no way we don't get significantly better even if the squad stays the same the next year, but we were going to be continue to be humbled year one by the above.500 teams.
everyone started that year hurt in the east get over it and we were losing to any actual healthy contending team.. it was bad from the start
Completely agree people just seem to forget that we were the number 1 seed with lonzo
@@balthorpaynenot true. We beat good teams before lonzo got hurt.
That was fools gold and everybody saw it
Im lit we got Matas and im ready for the team to completely rebuild the right way
Hope they do…
Everyone is bagging out Giddey, don't worry this is a very good move. When he has the Ball in his hand "Good Things Happen" - play maker and elite passer.
Congratulations on 40k🎉 Well deserved 👏🏽
Appreciate it brother!
I love Demar, but please trade or let him walk. Love our youth direction, we have the talent to move on now
I think a sign and trade is going to happen for him. Hopefully, we get picks in return and not just a bad contract we will have to buy out.
Bro, you're the best of all the Bulls podcasters.....by a long margin!!! I think a few are trying to bite your style...keep bringing more content and stay on top!
OKC proved why the youth movement is the way to build. Demar, Vooch, and Zach can help other teams contend right now keeping them here is just a band-aid approach and slows down the inevitable.
I wasn’t wanting a rebuild, still don’t, but Matas makes me hopeful
Why? The Bulls of the last seasons is a joke. I'd rebuild and give the young players a chance.
@@lilclowner2061 because rebuilds are painful to go through, yes I know watching this team is too, but the last rebuild was a failure and tanking is a stupid strat
@@Adog00this Bulls team failed BIG TIME. Its time to rebuild. I dont ever want to see Voch, Lonzo, Lavine and demar in a Bulls jersey again.
@Adog00 I agree losing doesn't guarantee a number 1 pick, just find the right pieces and let's go
@@Adog00are you braindead? This was way more painful than watch than watching a rebuild! This is insanity, obviously you don't know what that means
Honestly even if we get rid of Zack and Vuc it's not going to be a rebuild. Ayo has shown he can put up 12 to 20 points in games. I think Coby is going to get better. With Giddey Julian Phillips can carve out a role especially with his vert. If Billy lets this team play really fast it could be fun to watch. Are they going to be a playoff team no but I wouldn't be surprised if they were near the play-in again.
Lol.. Having Cody and AYo starting as your best players is a 22-25 win team next year; tops.
We ain’t gonna come close to the playoffs without demar and lavine, demar is our best player and lavine as much as he sucks is one of our best players he’s just terrible for the money.
@@Roger-hs1dl for sure bro ...only good news....Flagg or bailey next year .
I feel like they are trying to build a young and successful team like the Thunder
That would be the dream, but with our ownership, who knows 😭
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Congrats on the 40k subscribers! If possible, can you include audio or clips of things mentioned for the future? Would've been nice to hear that sound clip from AK followed by your comments. Best of luck with the channel!
Ya know, I honestly think AK would prefer to tinker with the roster to see if they could be a playoff team sooner rather than later, but the financial restraints, and two of the current cornerstone players getting older, and further out of their primes, he's just playing the cards he has. The best option is to acquire the best talent he can, and the youth movement is just the most logical step. I really like AK, and I'm not sure another GM could outperform him, given the philosophy of the ownership group he's beholden to. ALSO, CONGRATS on another milestone, My Brother!!! Wake me when you hit a Hunnit K!! 😉😁🙌🏾
If we do start a rebuild I'll catch a few games next season but there is no way in hell I'm watching 82 games of our tank 😂 your channel does a fantastic job of keeping me up to date on the games I miss and just know you are heavily appreciated by me. Congrats on 40k
I feel like there are a few suitors for Vucevic, Like the pelicans as they could just salary dump Larry Nance Junior And maybe Jordan Hawkins straight up for him
You deserve the subscriber support. Your coverage of the Bulls is far more satisfying than watching the Bulls play. So, I look forward to the front office admitting failure and moving on. Just as the Derrick Rose injury decimated that Bulls team. The Lonzo Ball injury has decimated this team.
You earned the 40k Jamal. Crazy to see how far you’ve come. Outside of bulls talk you’re my only go to.
Congratulations on 40k subscribers Jamaal 🍻🎉
Hopefully we build some depth and give lots of our young guys playtime. Josh and Matas are going to do great things
Just because the Bulls get younger it doesn't equal bad.
The Lavine era is coming to an end
I think ak change his mind when he realized that zach ang josh can make some chemistry
Nets and Bulls have already started their tanks for Cooper Flagg
Maybe Hawks too.... and wizards
@@raymundfernandez4172 Those 4 will for sure be in it. You can throw in the Blazers too. Those five might be the five worst teams in the league.
2 years ago Giddey averaged 17/6/8 in only 31 minutes per game. In James Harden's final season with OKC before he exploded with Houston he averaged 17/4/4 in that same 31 minutes. Chicago just got a white Magic Johnson. The Thunder and GM Sam Presti just made a colossal blunder.
Don't compare him to harden. Harden went to the NBA finals giddy was the number 3 option at the end of the year on a non playoff team. He averaged 16 points on 15 shots and this year the team was a playoff team and he was the 5th or 6th best player. In the playoffs he was unplayable
@@RafiqWashington-tx7id The bottom line is he put up better numbers than Harden did in the exact same amount of minutes. That shows the tremendous upside he has
@@joeldriver-sp2rg Your comparing a team that made it to a championship game to a team that didn't make the playoffs at all. As soon as his team got good his minutes got cut and he was the 6th best player on the team. Anyone can score points when your the second option. Harden was a sixth man off the bench. Do you even understand what your talking about. Did you know harden didn't start at all for OKC and was in the running for six man of the year. He is no where near the talent or player harden was at that time
I think it’s quite possible
@@RafiqWashington-tx7id he wasn’t comparing Harden to Giddey as a player or playstyle, he just compared their stats. Stop being a baby and getting offended by stats
FINALLY!
I think it'll be a mix of rebuild and staying competitive. I think we will shift to a younger core, but as soon as the opportunity arises, they will pull the trigger on something.
Congrats on 40k as well
We need some sort of veteran experience but I want more of a young team for sure
Finally. 😎
I still believe AK wants to retool rather than rebuild. He'll want established players if trading DeMarr, Zach and Vooch, more so than draft capital. Plus, I think you overvalue DeMarr. While he's good at one end of the court, he's as much of a traffic cone on D as Zach and Vooch.
As long as we dont have another starter like valentine on the floor im ok with a short rebuild!
Trades are not easy to make, I know we make sound easy. It takes two to tango. Again not defending the front office.
That 1st round pick was a good pick, but what will the roster look like in November?
Looking forward to another rebuild. Hopefully we don’t get the 7th pick every year.
Bulls getting a nice young core
I really hope they r rebuilding. I believe in these young bucks. Let them play and develop. We will see the playoffs 2-3 years from now. Time to move on from the old veterans
I think if we move some players we could be good I'm not sold on vuc he don't play defense and zack no d and giddy no d so we need shot blocking
We've been in constant rebuild since 1998 and we haven't built anything. Not even one measly conference finals in a weak eastern conference :-/ And let's not start with "bad luck" with Rose - the Bulls have their share in his injuries.
Demar has to stay. Every young team needs a mentor. OKC, that Spurs Dynasty. Demar getting Coby with dribble 2 much transformed his game. That doesn’t happen without Deebo. Same with Ayo coming out of his shell. I also hope they keep Drummond and Javonte. Javonte is the closest to energy and denfense we have since AC is gone
Rebuilding the rebulid’s rebuild. Rebuildception.
I don't think Matas signals anything, this front office has never drafted an NBA ready guy. Happy he dropped to us though.
With zach going nowhere we really shouldn't keep Derozan rather sign and trade.
Last time Lonzo played Melo was still in the league
Also CHGO was not a company yet I heard that from Will on their podcast yesterday
We consider give James wiseman a minimum contract he still got upside and if this is his ceiling as player it’s not like he flat out terrible
What about Billy Donovan? I thought he wanted to coach a contending team.
its better to not have him anyway 😂
I thought that AK was retooling not rebuilding? If the Bulls rebuild then we'll have to wait another 1,000,000 years for the Bulls to get good at competing for a championship again
Demar is great stop hating on him
No one is hating on DeMar, I love DeMar
And don't forget Billy Donovan doesn't want to be a part of a rebuild iirc. Does he go or do the Bulls half ass this rebuild?
Low key happy for a rebuild, last year it felt like I was watching the same game every time I watched a game. Bulls play like crap 1st half make a comeback in the 3rd and crunch time last 5 minutes. They need to build of the latest draft picks
Garza was a beast in collage a younger vuc but better d
Curious if anyone trades for zo or ends up bought out instead personally think he will bounce back this year get back to hooping be cool to see him go to a contender . Feel like bulls resign demar they never seem to go full rebuild always seem to wanna stay in no mans land . At this point probably stuck with vuc barring a salary dump likely the same with lavine cant see anyone giving up any significant value for either of them
Giddey is the next Lonzo 😮😮😮
We rebuild every 5 years.
I don't see a rebuild happening if the bulls don't have draft capital. They couldn't even obtain picks after seeing what they did to trade caruso. Unless if they get picks for zach or vooch, then maybe.
Right now I feel luka garza for ball would work and some seconds
Think a lot of yall are gonna be mad when zach shows up next season lmao
So trade vuc with det for wiseman and two first
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I hope so. Get Rid of lavine, get rid of demar & vuc
Sign n trade demar to the Lakers for rui and a pick.
Or sign n trade demar to the rockets for a pick, Adam's for salary filler and ethier tari eason or cam Whitmore.
Trade lavine to the magic for a 2025 1st and issac
Trade vuc and a 2nd for Brandon Clarke.
The Giddey one is a disaster ffs. If you want to rebuild, atleast have a pick or two. What's the point of rebuilding if you can't get any good assets on the draft? Considering that OKC is a goldmine of draft picks, we should have at least one.
I admit, Giddey is good at some areas of the game, but the fact that it looks like a salary dump is so fucking pointless to the rebuild.
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That makes no sense dude! Why would you keep Demar when dominates the ball and you can get something in a sign and trade
6th man n he good at player development with the youngins
@@DiMotherShip sounds nice, not gonna happen! Demar has too much pride for that and he wants a championship before he retires
Or vuc for wiggins help both teams and keep zack
Billy and the front office are securing their jobs if y’all haven’t caught on by now. A “Rebuld” buys them another 4 years.
I would be fine with everybody in the core leaving besides dear honestly
And zo he needs and we got to many gaurds
Yup, looking like a rebuild, so I may not be watching many games next year depending on how some more of these moves go. It's been fun but I really don't want to watch that kinda shit again night in and night out.
fair weather fan
@@frankdobs We you there for the Rawle Alkins/Archidiacono/Blakeney years? The Kris Dunn/Jerian Grant/Asik years?
Jimmy left in June 2017. I've watched since then. It was garbage. 7 years later call me a fair-weather fan? You must be out yo goddamn mind.
@@balthorpayne No cause i was a child
@@frankdobs So that explains the original comment you made assuming this is truth. Have a good day.
Second
IMO owner, FO, and
Coach dont Really give a shit!!! They are getting their pay days whether we win or not!! We enter draft w only#11. But look at the Knicks. 3 Picks and pulled Brilliant Trade for Bridges.
They are attacking their future aggressively!!” Why do we just sit in our hands??? Why did we
Take
Ware or knecht???
Hot takes vid?
Yeah, I need to do another one of those. I'll do that after free agency
Can we get Chennedy Carter from the Sky lol she plays how i played waaaaaay back when😅
Bulls should try to get back Daniel Gafford
If Vooch can't shoot 3's, why not keep Andre for 3 years, he's still young? Trade Vooch and bring in another big plus get something in return for Vooch, picks..expiring contract....Phoenix is good spot for Vooch!
trade Vooch and Lavine get some more young pieces with DZ
Without an experienced "vet," the Bulls are going to get dog-walked. It sounds good to rebuild, but the reality of team destruction is having a season like Washington or Detroit only to draft another "maybe" star after losing 60 games. Yikes!
why wont the 76ers trade for derozan. hes will decrease the offensive load for embiid and he's not injured. I think he's a better player than PG13.
So trade zack to gs and give wiggins
I hope at the End of the day all of you are wrong and there will not be a f***** Rebuild. I can't take this sh*** no more. And if Demar goes my heart is breaking! I really love this guy and his type of play!!! I can't take it really I can't. I give a sh**** what everyone else says this is my Opinion!!!
Trade p.will for i.stewart then the bulls will be good
The bulls will be booty cheeks for at least the next 10 years
This is a shitty version of a rebuild where they’ve utterly failed to gain draft capital and have no superstar prospects. Can’t wait to get back to .500 in 3 years.
As long as Jerry Reinsdorf owns the bulls they will never win championships IMO
And pwill hot garbage his max ave 8.9 ppg and that's not worth 20 million
Dude let it go lmao demar needs to leave, let the man walk and let these guys struggle a bit
the bulls are terrible at trading so who knows demar might just go to clippers on his own
change? the new players are just like the old ones. they arnt long, lack lateral quickness, can’t defend and can’t shoot.
it’s like a trashy orlando magic roster.
AK has got to go. he is just as backwards as garpax.
Trade zach and p will to either the magic for one of the Pgs and paolo or zach for a few guards or zach to the pistons for cade or ivey .. we need a guard a facilitator.. and its NOT Josh touch Kiddies omg
Yeah, your expectations of Zach Lavine’s trade value is way too high😂
@@jeremiahgonzalez8517 true.. but i for sure want him gone