►Follow us on Instagram @autogefuehl and @thomas.letsgo ►Subscribe here: th-cam.com/users/autogefuehl 00:00 Best luxury EV SUV comparison! 02:10 Tesla Model X 33:26 BMW iX xDrive 50 1:08:42 BMW iX M60 1:35:11 Audi Q8 e-tron vs SQ8 Sportback e-tron 2:19:50 Mercedes EQS SUV 2:58:12 Mercedes EQE SUV 3:21:52 Which electric premium SUV to buy? #Tesla #BMW #Mercedes Transparency note: Autogefühl videos are independent and free from editorial influence on opinion and rating. But since manufacturers enable us to do the reviews in the first place, for legal reasons this video is marked as _advertisement_.
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I am still a die hard Audi fan. The Q8 is a little big for me and I have not yet decided to change to electric, but if I have to, I would go with Audi.
As a tall driver the q8 etron is my favorite. BMW and Tesla both do not offer seats with variable head rests for their cars. The fixed headrests are too low for me. That‘s a shame especially for the BMW IX, which has otherwise lots of headroom. So the q8 offers the best package for me.
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Thomas, how much additional range do you think the heat pump gives the EQE SUV in winter? Realistically? VW and others reckon a heat pump reduces the energy required to heat a car by around 40%. So if you're running the (conventional) heating at say 1.5-2.5 KW when the temperature is freezing, you'll save 600W to 1KW. Compare this to the 25-30 KW these cars are pulling that's like 2-4%. You can maybe double that at lower speeds, but not sure it makes that much difference. There's a video out there showing 2 identical ID3s, one with and one without a heat pump. It's the nearest thing I've seen to a truly controlled test. At a steady 85 km/h, the heat pump saves 6.7% when heating from freezing to 24C. Nice to have for free, but heat pumps don't come for free. VW charge 1K Euro's when an option. The vast amount of winter range reduction comes from the inefficiency of Lithion-ion batteries when cold, not internal heating. Best guess on a 0C motorway run is a heat pump might add 10-20 km range, perhaps 30-40 km to town driving (where range is rarely an issue).
Audi looks monumentally better than the other 3 vehicles, shame it's battery and efficiency is the worst. I guess you need to trade style for performance with EVs still. Want a nice looking ride, gotta lose the range.
Precisely the comparison I was looking for. Thanks Thomas and the rest of the Autogefühl team. I will have to agree with Thomas. I'd go for the iX M60, and maybe for the SQ8 e-tron as second choice. I feel that Mercedes sold their souls for aerodynamics, but then forgot to include a heat pump. Baffling and disappointing. Well done BMW.
@@David_Polak How can it not be included in what's supposed to be a luxury car? The parts shortages makes all these luxury brands look like McDonald's car makers.
Except that BMW voice-assistant and the UI will drive you crazy. :D I think people are underestimating the importance of the UI in these vehicles - and in that department only one brand has really done their homework...
German e-cars are just overweighted, boring to drive and awkward. BYD, Nio, Lucid, Rivian, and Tesla are technically years ahead. Read the fact sheets, test at least two or three other cars beside your prefered german, and I bet, you are not going to buy a german car anymore.
I am picking up my iX 50 in three hours from now. I also happen to love the looks of the BMW! Dark Graphite Sport package, premium group, and the microfiber interior. Very excited.
Wanted to hear your view on the MXP because I just got one, and I totally agree with the assessment. First of all, the 812 Superfast made me think maybe a car can be too fast, but Tesla proves it. Full power acceleration in the Plaid, from a roll or a stop can really make both driver and passenger dizzy. Two, drive in chill… got even more power than I paid for but if I knew what I do now, I would have just got the dual motor. Three, that the yoke offers an unobstructed view is just a side effect. I think it was used simply for novelty not functionality, like many Tesla features, and I would even pay extra for a regular wheel if available. Four, signals on the wheel I’m fine with (better than Ferrari layout with left and right on different sides), but I can’t stand shifting by screen swipe. Quite often I actually use the backup “hard” buttons to shift. Lastly, Germans are still at the top when it comes to “old world luxury” features, but when it comes to the tech and charging (Supercharging network is head and shoulders above everyone else), Tesla is moving the EV game forward by leaps and bounds. Having said all that, my ideal EV would have exterior styling by BMW, interior design by Mercedes, power train and tech by Tesla👍
Your problem with the iX was gesture control, since you’re always moving your hands around in front of the display. You can disengage various gesture features which will stop that from happening. Everyone’s behavior is different, so you get the best of all words as you choose. I have everything switched off other than the volume adjustment gesture control. It works beautifully.
The IX is the best! The price is a lot lower, yet the build quality is far superior to the more expensive Tesla. I have driven the IX and think its a good price for the entry level version. Tesla seem to be making cars that can do 0-60 if race car times. Something that is very unnecessary plus make the car more expensive to insure.
How is the price lower? For an IX with air suspension you have to pay 13K more than a model X in my country. Also you get a model X without parking sensors now (LMAO).
@@bossman4401 Yes but then you're talking about an IX with no air suspension which imo isn't really a luxury SUV. Because BMW removed it except for the top trim (starting at 130K here). At that point you might as well go for an EV6/Ioniq 5 and save yourself another 40/50%. Better range, speedy, maybe only a little noisier. The Audi does get it on entrylevel trims too, like it should and for the Mercedes you can choose it as on option for pretty much any trim. The Tesla only has one expensive-ish trim (and Tesla is ditching the parking sensors due to parts shortage, kind of ridiculous imo). I think it's simply due to a parts shortage but it makes the IX40 and IX50 very unattractive when you compare all these cars. Especially when you realize the secondhand markt is going to have IX40's and 50's being sold that dó have air suspension. You're buying a gimped version that will depreciate even faster.
@@Jajalaatmaar The iX50 is on the bmw website now for £83k not sure why you think it’s starts at 130k unless that’s in other currencies I don’t what they sell for in other countries, but even without air suspension no Tesla will ever be more comfortable to drive. In the UK the roads are not smooth around town especially in London. I sold my Tesla within a month of taking delivery because it was very uncomfortable To be fair to the Tesla I went from A Mercedes S Class so it’s not a fair comparison, but I immediately went back and bought another S Class. You really need to test different cars and not just jump into a Tesla because of the hype and so called tech. It’s not a iPhone, it’s a car. For me it’s more about the comfort and quality rather than a promise that one day it will fully drive itself. It’s clear that’s a long long long way away if, and a big IF that ever happens FSD will never work on every road. It’s good for city traffic and highway cruising. Which my S Class works perfect for
Thanks Thomas for another informative video. I just have one concern about your recommendation. Leaving in Canada, poor range of IX worries me. Is there any plans to add heat pump in their next year models?
Just waiting for EQE SUV to become available, then decide between the two and finally wait for delivery. I like the look of EQE SUV, but power of IX. Though decision to mKe!
Thanks for the video!!! I was in the market for an electric SUV for the last 4 months and had the opportunity to test the same models… my last favorite is the Q8 (quality is high but tech is old - I had an 2019 A8 for 4 years), then the Tesla X Plaid (best tech/ worst built quality), then the EQS SUV (beautiful inside without the hyper screen, awesome tech, but drives heavy and it’s too long) so I decided to buy the IX M60 ( the interior with the executive package is awesome, all vegan, very spacious, drives amazingly quiet and it is really fun)
Cheers! Cool thanks for the feedback! Oh do they already offer the iX with the new vegan steering wheel? I wasnt sure yet when it would be introduced to the market
I can’t recommend any electric vehicle bc the charging infrastructure sucks so bad in the states. The only reliable chargers are Tesla’s. So I can only recommend those. Better vertical intervention with charging and software. The Germans will be playing catch-up (performance wise) for the next 10 years. Their motor technology is above a beyond any German auto manufacturer can make and probably always will. They just can’t innovate in this EV space like they once with with ICE vehicles. I think the only thing that separates them now is their superior suspension tuning. That’s it!
The iX, EQS, EQC are very nice and original ev’s. The e-tron is déjà vue. I had 2 Audi (2018 S5 and 2016 SQ5) and it’s boring for me and not very efficient. The major problem with all the above brands is the lack of synergy with the DC fast charging compared with the Tesla DC fast charging integrated network. Battery pre-conditioning is automatic when planing a long trip. Nobody talks about the panoramic Tesla X windshield! I own a Tesla Y and would love the X if I won the lottery.
Nice comparison. Would have chosen a different winner considering the practicality of the BMW is very low for its total seize. Being only a few cm shorter than the EQS SUV but it has the smallest trunk of all of them. And no Frunk…. Great autobahn cruiser for 4 with no luggage….. have had a MXPerf (4yrs), now have the iX 50(1yr), but giving it up to try a EQS SUV….. we will see what I finally think.
Very nice video and quite long as well. I must say I enjoy watching videos from @autogefuehi. I had the Etron for 6months and had to switch back to an ICE car primarily because I think the car is quite small. It’s a very desirable car with lots of comfort. Car manufacturers seems to be paying too much attention to aerodynamics thereby making EVs that are aesthetically tragic. The EQE/S are quite ugly cars and doesn’t appeal to me. I’m really waiting to see a big EV SUV like Rivian in Europe before switch back to EV otherwise I will continue to enjoy my ICE cars😮
Decent review. I would highly value some key things you missed about the Model X -8 year, 150k mile battery-powertrain warranty. -No rip off yearly servicing -Constant improvements with over the air software updates that can control every aspect of the car. -Superior app -Superior voice control -Supercharging network. -the only car here capable of full autonomy. -PS5 level games on the infotainment, TH-cam, Netflix, zoom video calling. Because of the above the car will depreciate much slower than the others.
@@dannyspeed you have driven or you owned them? I have owned a model 3, had small issues like dent, paint issues, allignment of doors not perfect - these are not problems you would find on german car.. poor build quality of tesla is a known issue since years mate - just check on youtube..
@@jambanthumban3077 have you seen the TH-cam video of the guy with the brand new Audi etron with all the issues? Leaking sunroof ect. Do we assume from that all etrons have the same issues? I use my own experiences to judge a product. I've rented all the model Tesla's available in the UK from EVision for multiple business purposes, some times for weeks at a time. Talking to the owner most issues they had were with early model S's and pre 2020 model 3's. They ordered 40 model Y's when they first launched in the UK. Zero issues in build, panel alignment, no squeaks, rattles and nothing falling off.
E-tron is my favourite by far, the other's are all butt ugly 🤮 Tesla is quick, cheap, and practical, but has HORRIBLE build quality, is the loudest and rides/handles the worst. BMW is sooo ugly it's unreal, the simplified "big screen" interior is too much imo. Mercedes cars all have cheap interior and are attached by plastic clips, plus MBUX UI is laggy compared to the rest, and questionable bulbous exterior styling. The Audi looks amazing, like a proper ICE car that's not trying to stand out by looking 'different', the normal size screens too that aren't distracting and are lower down is great, plus the rock-solid build quality, super noise isolation and ride comfort is a win win. The miles could be a problem for people that drive long distances a lot, but for most you will do less than 200 miles a day, and charge it at home. I barely do 10% of that a day so I'll always be at full charge.
In a objective review it is pretty clear who wins this. The car with best efficiency, best price, best warranty, lowest yearly cost, best infotainment system, most features etc. And this is the Model X. No need to be a fanboy, just read the fact sheets. Look at the weight of the german e-cars with their hundreds of kilograms of wires and chips. They all weight 200 - 300 kg more than the Teslas. And this high weight makes most of them very boring to drive (compared to Tesla and ICE!). I had a SQ8 for one weekend (exchange with my brother in law) and I was begging to get my 50K $ half the price Model Y back because I missed so many features in the Audi. The driving assistance was crap (even Kia or Toyota do way better), very bad performance (0 - 60mph feels like 10sec. even if it's not), horrible infotainment, the Bang & Olufsen sound system never reaches Tesla level in none of the music styles I tried and the driving was absolutly emotionless and boring. I don't know a single german e-Car owner who tested a Tesla before. While absolute most Tesla drivers know other brands from the time before Tesla and can compare. And this is exactly the only reason not to buy a Tesla: Not to know Tesla!
Guten Morgen an alle beim Autogefühl…. Bestes Video zu den E-SUV s aller Zeiten….. herzlichen Dank…. Leider in Englisch und da her für mich zum größten Teil nicht zu verstehen…. Kommt das Video noch in Deutsch??… warum macht ihr sowieso nicht mal ein Video in Deutsch zu dem Thema ( Q8 etron )
Danke für Eure Antwort…..die Untertitel sind leider auch in Deutsch…. Schade…. Ich habe schon mehrfach gehört, das Thomas die BESTEN Tests liefert….. schade schade….. warum macht Thomas den Test nicht auch in Deutsch…. Würdest sicher viele Aufrufe bekommen …..trotzdem Danke 😢
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The EQS 580 SUV is my pick. Best in class luxury and it's a decent looking SUV. I think the Hyperscreen looks great. The iX may be a good EV but they missed the mark on looks, inside and out. The Model X is out because of that silly yoke and those impractical rear doors. I haven't seen the Audi in person so I don't have an opinion on it. Thanks for the reviews Thomas, keep them coming.
The IX would be cool... If they didn't axe the options. You can't get air suspension and rear wheel steering on the xdrive40 or xdrive50 anymore. That means you need to get the M60. They also removed opening the tailgate with your foot and the massaging seat for the front passenger altogether due to lack of parts. It's not exactly luxurious to have a less luxurious vehicle compared to ones built a year before for pretty much the same price. Worse is that that some people who ordered an xdrive50 just got told "we're removing air suspension and rear wheel steering from your car, take it or leave it" after waiting many months. With options the BMW IX M60 comes to 142K including tax (yep it's high here) for me in the Netherlands. Speccing out a Mercedes EQE SUV with hyperscreen with the same options costs 134k. And then you get massaging seats for the front passenger as well as well as the kinda overkill hyperscreen. If you ditch the hyperscreen it comes to 125kish. Oh and the EQE comes with a heat pump (never buy the EQS without, lol). Buying either without air suspension seems stupid to me, when the idea is to get a luxury SUV. If you could get the xdrive50 with air suspension and rear wheel steering for around 110-120k it would be competitive. But BMW doesn't have the contracts anymore to get the parts apparantly.
@@autogefuehl Great! I recommend maybe pinning it in a comment in your old reviews as well, because the xdrive50 is way less attractive now without air suspension and rearwheel steering, imo. All the bits about the drive feel are outdated now.
I am looking for family EV SUV for 5 passangers. As BMW customer, I have tried IX and it is soo small. Charging is also nothing special for long trips. Etron is small in second row, also not usable. Tesla is fine, but dont want expensive Plaid. MB has problems with winter charging and SW stability. So what can I buy? Nothing yet.
@@baron_xd4633 have you check forums? Have you tested EQE? A lot of problems are with they platform. Also very slow charging in winter is big problem for me. I have also i4 M50(and i4 is not premiant of fast charging) and charging in winter is much faster, then EQE. Probably in summer is faster too according to charging curve.
Tesla Model X: - Supercharger Network - Faster - Doesn’t rely on ApplePlay - State of the Art Engineering - Less Parts = less maintenance - FSD - Over the Air Updates
I tried both, i4 and had the IX for 48hrs but ended up buying the ix3. The i4 is definitely the easiest and most fun to drive because of the size. The IX was just too big for city drives, I had issues with narrow car parks here in London and on tight streets where I worried I might scratch the sides but that's something you'd get used to after a few weeks and the ix3 was the best middle car and is still my favourite to this day. But if you want to the easiest car to navigate definitely the i4.
I ended up choosing the Q8 E Tron Prestige. Primarily because of the parts shortages BMW had been having and inability to get air suspension on the ix50. Apparently it's back and can be added as an option, but for a while there you could only get it in the m version, which just isn't worth it. I test drove them all and the Audi seemed the most comfortable to me but also the most "plain". If the air suspension was an option for the IX, i would've went with it just for the odd time I needed that extra range. The exterior is ugly, but if you get the sport version, it's good enough, and the interior is great.
The Model X is the most efficient, is the fastest, has a huge trunk, technology, over the air updates, handles well, rides well, pretty quite, access to the best charging network… and you prefer the others? German bias there?
@@autogefuehl watched it again and its still not clear from your video why you didn’t choose the Tesla. I quote you: Other than the lack of apple carplay, you didn’t really give reasons for preferring the BMW and Audi over it. The Tesla is the only one vegan only car brand, is the only one with a charging network, and then they go and improve the X in every way, that you called it just weeks ago the benchmark, it is according to you the most efficient, the fastest, huge trunk, has very good noise cancellation (better than Maybach you say), good ride & handles well with the newly tuned air suspension and offers the most seats. I can only find one reason it doesn’t beat the less efficient, less space, less performance, no charging network, no vegan only German competitors… its not a German car. Its a shame, as I truly like your videos and hoped you would not be biased. Still very informative
Well, you can't tell someone what to like or not. From his experience with cars. For me personally, I never and don't think I'll love Tesla. I love Merc, and sometimes they do awesome good, and sometimes not. I love Merc because of their elegant, luxurious, and reliable cars. I don't like going deja vu, I mean why go that fast when there is no disaster?
The horrible build quality is reason enough to kick tesla out.. just check the users complaining about brand new tesla having dents, paint job not done properly etc.. for cars in luxury segment at >100k its a NO-GO.. for model 3 or y ir maybe fine but not the high-end car
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@@autogefuehl look guys, no need to have a militaristic response to someone that just potentially questioned your “higher than you” attitude when it comes to plastic, animals and, quite obviously, veganism. Since you put yourself on a pedestal of moralism, then project this purity to yourself first. When talking about animal free stuff, start differentiating between the stuff you mentioned in your reply. Right now you are very obviously not doing that.
This response is not militaristic, it is just gathering issues that people ask for to explain the background. I didnt know better either before I did research on that. Has nothing to do with putting myself higher, on the contrary. I have a lot of effort and pain myself, I could just enjoy myself and say "what a nice leather seat" and not care. But I chose to stand up for those who dont have a voice - well they have a voice, but we are not listening enough. For me, it is very hard and painful to always answer the comments/questions etc., it literally takes years of my life to do this. But I know it is the right thing to do when I can save some lives with that.
Great technology wrapped in ugly exterior and interior design. Tesla and BMW have indifferent exteriors and unsightly and unusual interiors. It seems they are designed by comedians to make jokes for fun. Audi has indifferent exterior and decent interior. Mercedes tries to escape the ugliness, offers proper interior design and EQE SUV tries to move in the right direction in comparison to other EQ indifferent designs. Always, great and honest presentations by Thomas.
I switched from Tesla Model X as my first EV to e-tron. Next will be an EQS or anything else in 2024. But will never go back to Tesla based on the bad build quality and Tesla "service" center experiences.
@@willitbreak5825 MY? really? buhahahaha. Only one central display for ALL driving related details & entertainment, no air suspension, small air filtering unit, newest cars w/o radar unit for parking. u made my day. did you really compare this cheap entry car with the high end Model X? buahahaha
I don’t understand the the constant obsession about animal products ( leather seats). If you’re a vegan personally and live that life, ok. However, most of us eat meat and will continue to do so. A byproduct is therefor leather. Should that be discarded. I’d offer that leather, given the abundance, is more “sustainable” than pumping oil and processing it to make PLASTIC. This whole topic is very European. I’ve never heard an American ever mention that leather seats were any consideration in their decision to buy a car (actually, not having leather is considered a detriment by many). I feel you overdo this topic. I enjoy your videos. Really quite exceptional. Using so many repeated seconds to try and program us against leather detracts.
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@@autogefuehl Wow Thomas. Excellent write up. Some people I know just happen to avoid leather because its the cool thing to do. However, you have put your head into this topic and researched it thoroughly. Its educative for people like me. I am sure with technical reviews, honest opinions and deep thought behind modern concerns like ethical or environment sustainability you stand out in the entire world of reviewers. I am searching for a new SUV and still deciding between plug in hybrid (like 2024 GLE 450 E 4MATIC) or a full EV and your reviews definitely help. When do you plan to cover 2024 GLE 450 E 4MATIC and do honest range test analysis for it's EV range ?
I guess Europe is more progressive than the USA in yet another way! Do your research on the requirements for breeding and raising cattle, ie water consumption and methane gas that adds to global warming … which why I am assuming might even be a reason you take an interest in EVs … sustainability … go figure “obsession” - good fragrance, perhaps, but not a nice way to define caring about the planet
Plastic License Plates are more sustainable than metal ones? Since when? Why are we getting rid of everything plastic like plastic straws. Do not be so gullible. THINK!
Pretty important to mention is that a model X built in 2023 gets no parking sensors. Tesla ran out of parts. They want to replace them with camera functionality but as of yet that software isn't available yet, and we don't know how well it will work. This is also the case on new model 3's and model Y's (but at least these got a substantial price drop). No parking sensors on a 120K car is kind of a joke imo. And seems bad for value retention when older models do have it. Nearly all the luxury brands are hit by the parts shortage and removing features from their otherwise luxury cars which means a buyer now gets an inferior version to what is already driving around and on the secondhand market. Maybe you should do a video about this and update your old reviews.
Thanks for the info! No way to update old reviews, but I can ask for the specific models; I do included that in new reviews when infos are present like e.g. also shortage of inductive charging pads
Tesla cultists pooh-poohed the idea of Germans ever catching up. Guess what, they did and then some! BMW iX is my new absolute favorite electric car of them all. What a car!! But my god those interiors in the Merc!! Also, as always, great review Thomas. Gratulieren!
I read the last comment Thomas … you got him in your reply … FYI, I guess Europe is more progressive than the USA in yet another way! They should do more research on the requirements for breeding and raising cattle, ie water consumption and methane gas that adds to global warming … which why I am assuming might even be a reason he takes an interest in EVs … sustainability … go figure “obsession” - good fragrance, perhaps, but not a nice way to define caring about the planet.
The Tesla is like an electronic product, not a car. Just look back those unexplained accidents of Tesla, especially the braking issues, they are losing customer confidence.
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I am still a die hard Audi fan. The Q8 is a little big for me and I have not yet decided to change to electric, but if I have to, I would go with Audi.
As a tall driver the q8 etron is my favorite. BMW and Tesla both do not offer seats with variable head rests for their cars. The fixed headrests are too low for me. That‘s a shame especially for the BMW IX, which has otherwise lots of headroom. So the q8 offers the best package for me.
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The EQS 580 SUV is my pick. I plan to purchase an EQS SUV 580 with the Pinnacle Trim and all the options I can pack on...
My choice would be the Tesla or the Mercedes EQS. The BMW looks like a Hertz in person.
Bmw Ix is great in so many ways but the tiny trunk is a dealbreaker for me. The trunk looked even smaller than that of a Lexus NX
Thomas, how much additional range do you think the heat pump gives the EQE SUV in winter? Realistically? VW and others reckon a heat pump reduces the energy required to heat a car by around 40%. So if you're running the (conventional) heating at say 1.5-2.5 KW when the temperature is freezing, you'll save 600W to 1KW. Compare this to the 25-30 KW these cars are pulling that's like 2-4%. You can maybe double that at lower speeds, but not sure it makes that much difference.
There's a video out there showing 2 identical ID3s, one with and one without a heat pump. It's the nearest thing I've seen to a truly controlled test. At a steady 85 km/h, the heat pump saves 6.7% when heating from freezing to 24C. Nice to have for free, but heat pumps don't come for free. VW charge 1K Euro's when an option. The vast amount of winter range reduction comes from the inefficiency of Lithion-ion batteries when cold, not internal heating. Best guess on a 0C motorway run is a heat pump might add 10-20 km range, perhaps 30-40 km to town driving (where range is rarely an issue).
Very well researched! Sounds realistic. I will try to find out as soon as possible.
The EQE SUV comes with a heat pump standard right? It says so right now on the mercedes website in my country (netherlands).
@@Jajalaatmaar Yep. It's standard. Here in Belgium too. Doesn't mean you're not paying for it.
Audi looks monumentally better than the other 3 vehicles, shame it's battery and efficiency is the worst. I guess you need to trade style for performance with EVs still. Want a nice looking ride, gotta lose the range.
Precisely the comparison I was looking for. Thanks Thomas and the rest of the Autogefühl team. I will have to agree with Thomas. I'd go for the iX M60, and maybe for the SQ8 e-tron as second choice.
I feel that Mercedes sold their souls for aerodynamics, but then forgot to include a heat pump. Baffling and disappointing.
Well done BMW.
Glad you enjoyed it! Feel free to recommend 😎
A heat pump is coming. Mercedes test drivers told Björn Nyland when he encountered them in the North of Norway.
@@David_Polak How can it not be included in what's supposed to be a luxury car? The parts shortages makes all these luxury brands look like McDonald's car makers.
Except that BMW voice-assistant and the UI will drive you crazy. :D I think people are underestimating the importance of the UI in these vehicles - and in that department only one brand has really done their homework...
German e-cars are just overweighted, boring to drive and awkward. BYD, Nio, Lucid, Rivian, and Tesla are technically years ahead. Read the fact sheets, test at least two or three other cars beside your prefered german, and I bet, you are not going to buy a german car anymore.
Great review ! I got myself a wagoneer and i love it! Great on the snow and mud. This truck is a tank! I get about 22mpg highway which is great.
Selten so viele geniale Entscheidungen bezüglich Software und Nutzen gesehen. Unfassbar genial.
They are probably all good. The BMW has a face only a mother could love.
My friend, what would you chose, q3 45 tfsi e, Gla 250e, bmw x3 xdrive30e or RAV 4 plug-in hybrid?? They are around the same price
I am launching an episode for that by the end of this week!
Great video. Only the network worries me I’d also choose the iX. I am unique here I think but I also love the front grille!
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I am picking up my iX 50 in three hours from now. I also happen to love the looks of the BMW! Dark Graphite Sport package, premium group, and the microfiber interior. Very excited.
@@toesuf94 by now you’ve got it! Hope it’s as good as it looks 👍
Love the performance of the Model X plaid and the interior of EQS
Thank you for validating my iX M60 purchase 😂 I’m getting used to the grill, liking it even…
Wanted to hear your view on the MXP because I just got one, and I totally agree with the assessment. First of all, the 812 Superfast made me think maybe a car can be too fast, but Tesla proves it. Full power acceleration in the Plaid, from a roll or a stop can really make both driver and passenger dizzy. Two, drive in chill… got even more power than I paid for but if I knew what I do now, I would have just got the dual motor. Three, that the yoke offers an unobstructed view is just a side effect. I think it was used simply for novelty not functionality, like many Tesla features, and I would even pay extra for a regular wheel if available. Four, signals on the wheel I’m fine with (better than Ferrari layout with left and right on different sides), but I can’t stand shifting by screen swipe. Quite often I actually use the backup “hard” buttons to shift. Lastly, Germans are still at the top when it comes to “old world luxury” features, but when it comes to the tech and charging (Supercharging network is head and shoulders above everyone else), Tesla is moving the EV game forward by leaps and bounds. Having said all that, my ideal EV would have exterior styling by BMW, interior design by Mercedes, power train and tech by Tesla👍
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i read all that and agreed with most of it until you said you wanted the exterior styling of a bmw
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I'm shocked you haven’t got more subscribers. All your videos are clear and informative. Keep up the good work!
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Wow, 3.5 hours long! You must be competing with the new Avatar. Love watching your videos, but I just skipped to the conclusion on this one hah.
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the hyper screen is the number one thing that is making me look at the EQS, or I would just get an S Class
The real Hyper screen is the Cadillac true 30 inch one. The EQS one is à glass over 3 screens. What about software updates?
EQS if you look for off roader.
S class if you look for sport car instead
@Michel Masse well, the Merc still futuristic and convincing
3:25:13 - thank you for mentioning the low frequency noise over bumps in the e-tron. Literally sold ours because it was so uncomfortable on my ears.
Hi, in team of long term ownership cost in EU for 5 years, how would you rank them?
Your problem with the iX was gesture control, since you’re always moving your hands around in front of the display. You can disengage various gesture features which will stop that from happening. Everyone’s behavior is different, so you get the best of all words as you choose. I have everything switched off other than the volume adjustment gesture control. It works beautifully.
The IX is the best! The price is a lot lower, yet the build quality is far superior to the more expensive Tesla. I have driven the IX and think its a good price for the entry level version. Tesla seem to be making cars that can do 0-60 if race car times. Something that is very unnecessary plus make the car more expensive to insure.
How is the price lower? For an IX with air suspension you have to pay 13K more than a model X in my country. Also you get a model X without parking sensors now (LMAO).
@@Jajalaatmaar in the UK 🇬🇧 the iX is 70k new. The new Model X is not available here yet, but they are usually over 100k
@@bossman4401 Yes but then you're talking about an IX with no air suspension which imo isn't really a luxury SUV. Because BMW removed it except for the top trim (starting at 130K here). At that point you might as well go for an EV6/Ioniq 5 and save yourself another 40/50%. Better range, speedy, maybe only a little noisier.
The Audi does get it on entrylevel trims too, like it should and for the Mercedes you can choose it as on option for pretty much any trim. The Tesla only has one expensive-ish trim (and Tesla is ditching the parking sensors due to parts shortage, kind of ridiculous imo).
I think it's simply due to a parts shortage but it makes the IX40 and IX50 very unattractive when you compare all these cars. Especially when you realize the secondhand markt is going to have IX40's and 50's being sold that dó have air suspension. You're buying a gimped version that will depreciate even faster.
IX most ugly car ever.
@@Jajalaatmaar The iX50 is on the bmw website now for £83k not sure why you think it’s starts at 130k unless that’s in other currencies
I don’t what they sell for in other countries, but even without air suspension no Tesla will ever be more comfortable to drive. In the UK the roads are not smooth around town especially in London. I sold my Tesla within a month of taking delivery because it was very uncomfortable
To be fair to the Tesla I went from A Mercedes S Class so it’s not a fair comparison, but I immediately went back and bought another S Class.
You really need to test different cars and not just jump into a Tesla because of the hype and so called tech. It’s not a iPhone, it’s a car. For me it’s more about the comfort and quality rather than a promise that one day it will fully drive itself. It’s clear that’s a long long long way away if, and a big IF that ever happens
FSD will never work on every road. It’s good for city traffic and highway cruising. Which my S Class works perfect for
great video!
Thanks!
Thanks Thomas for another informative video. I just have one concern about your recommendation. Leaving in Canada, poor range of IX worries me. Is there any plans to add heat pump in their next year models?
Thanks 🙏
It comes with heat pump as standard
Thanks Thomas. I assume I have to wait until 2024 to decide between IX and EQE SUV!
long delivery time I guess ?
Just waiting for EQE SUV to become available, then decide between the two and finally wait for delivery. I like the look of EQE SUV, but power of IX. Though decision to mKe!
Thanks for the video!!! I was in the market for an electric SUV for the last 4 months and had the opportunity to test the same models… my last favorite is the Q8 (quality is high but tech is old - I had an 2019 A8 for 4 years), then the Tesla X Plaid (best tech/ worst built quality), then the EQS SUV (beautiful inside without the hyper screen, awesome tech, but drives heavy and it’s too long) so I decided to buy the IX M60 ( the interior with the executive package is awesome, all vegan, very spacious, drives amazingly quiet and it is really fun)
Cheers! Cool thanks for the feedback! Oh do they already offer the iX with the new vegan steering wheel? I wasnt sure yet when it would be introduced to the market
Drive to St. Tropez and back, and then -when the Germans arive a day later, decide.
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I would like to know which models of the eqe sedan have the hipperscreen as an option
Very good review
Thanks!
I can’t recommend any electric vehicle bc the charging infrastructure sucks so bad in the states. The only reliable chargers are Tesla’s. So I can only recommend those. Better vertical intervention with charging and software. The Germans will be playing catch-up (performance wise) for the next 10 years. Their motor technology is above a beyond any German auto manufacturer can make and probably always will. They just can’t innovate in this EV space like they once with with ICE vehicles. I think the only thing that separates them now is their superior suspension tuning. That’s it!
Integration* stupid phone.
The iX, EQS, EQC are very nice and original ev’s. The e-tron is déjà vue. I had 2 Audi (2018 S5 and 2016 SQ5) and it’s boring for me and not very efficient. The major problem with all the above brands is the lack of synergy with the DC fast charging compared with the Tesla DC fast charging integrated network. Battery pre-conditioning is automatic when planing a long trip. Nobody talks about the panoramic Tesla X windshield! I own a Tesla Y and would love the X if I won the lottery.
Those rear doors are problematic in the winter according to owners.
Think the standard SUV version on the Oudi Q6 e tron.
They are all great, but damn they should weight at least 300-400kg less. We will soon drive 3t cars 😁.
Nice comparison. Would have chosen a different winner considering the practicality of the BMW is very low for its total seize. Being only a few cm shorter than the EQS SUV but it has the smallest trunk of all of them. And no Frunk…. Great autobahn cruiser for 4 with no luggage….. have had a MXPerf (4yrs), now have the iX 50(1yr), but giving it up to try a EQS SUV….. we will see what I finally think.
Cheers!
Very nice video and quite long as well. I must say I enjoy watching videos from @autogefuehi. I had the Etron for 6months and had to switch back to an ICE car primarily because I think the car is quite small. It’s a very desirable car with lots of comfort. Car manufacturers seems to be paying too much attention to aerodynamics thereby making EVs that are aesthetically tragic. The EQE/S are quite ugly cars and doesn’t appeal to me. I’m really waiting to see a big EV SUV like Rivian in Europe before switch back to EV otherwise I will continue to enjoy my ICE cars😮
Thanks for tuning in!
Decent review. I would highly value some key things you missed about the Model X
-8 year, 150k mile battery-powertrain warranty.
-No rip off yearly servicing
-Constant improvements with over the air software updates that can control every aspect of the car.
-Superior app
-Superior voice control
-Supercharging network.
-the only car here capable of full autonomy.
-PS5 level games on the infotainment, TH-cam, Netflix, zoom video calling.
Because of the above the car will depreciate much slower than the others.
Thanks for the addition!
All the above gets weighed down by the horrible build quality.. at 100k the quality just needs to be better..
@@jambanthumban3077
I've driven every Tesla model apart from the refreshed model S and X and have experienced zero issues with build quality.
@@dannyspeed you have driven or you owned them? I have owned a model 3, had small issues like dent, paint issues, allignment of doors not perfect - these are not problems you would find on german car.. poor build quality of tesla is a known issue since years mate - just check on youtube..
@@jambanthumban3077 have you seen the TH-cam video of the guy with the brand new Audi etron with all the issues? Leaking sunroof ect. Do we assume from that all etrons have the same issues? I use my own experiences to judge a product. I've rented all the model Tesla's available in the UK from EVision for multiple business purposes, some times for weeks at a time. Talking to the owner most issues they had were with early model S's and pre 2020 model 3's. They ordered 40 model Y's when they first launched in the UK. Zero issues in build, panel alignment, no squeaks, rattles and nothing falling off.
Jezuz 3:30 hours long. Ok, where’s my popcorn 😂
Enjoy 😎
Agree... best by far
Something must be wrong with the IX voice prompting the whole time?
The best luxury EV SUV review
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Please don’t trust consumer reports for reliability data.
Why not?
@@autogefuehl because their data collection is flawed and they are funded by advertising from ICE manufacturers.
Who else should he trust ?
BMW voice assistant got the hots for you
Eqs all the way
E-tron is my favourite by far, the other's are all butt ugly 🤮 Tesla is quick, cheap, and practical, but has HORRIBLE build quality, is the loudest and rides/handles the worst. BMW is sooo ugly it's unreal, the simplified "big screen" interior is too much imo. Mercedes cars all have cheap interior and are attached by plastic clips, plus MBUX UI is laggy compared to the rest, and questionable bulbous exterior styling.
The Audi looks amazing, like a proper ICE car that's not trying to stand out by looking 'different', the normal size screens too that aren't distracting and are lower down is great, plus the rock-solid build quality, super noise isolation and ride comfort is a win win. The miles could be a problem for people that drive long distances a lot, but for most you will do less than 200 miles a day, and charge it at home. I barely do 10% of that a day so I'll always be at full charge.
thanks for the feedback !
If Model X had a "Normal" steering wheel and steering column switch, it would be the "CLEAR" best buy of the category!
Now they do
In a objective review it is pretty clear who wins this. The car with best efficiency, best price, best warranty, lowest yearly cost, best infotainment system, most features etc. And this is the Model X. No need to be a fanboy, just read the fact sheets. Look at the weight of the german e-cars with their hundreds of kilograms of wires and chips. They all weight 200 - 300 kg more than the Teslas. And this high weight makes most of them very boring to drive (compared to Tesla and ICE!). I had a SQ8 for one weekend (exchange with my brother in law) and I was begging to get my 50K $ half the price Model Y back because I missed so many features in the Audi. The driving assistance was crap (even Kia or Toyota do way better), very bad performance (0 - 60mph feels like 10sec. even if it's not), horrible infotainment, the Bang & Olufsen sound system never reaches Tesla level in none of the music styles I tried and the driving was absolutly emotionless and boring. I don't know a single german e-Car owner who tested a Tesla before. While absolute most Tesla drivers know other brands from the time before Tesla and can compare. And this is exactly the only reason not to buy a Tesla: Not to know Tesla!
Take a shot each time Thomas says "here".
Oh My God! You're adorable. I could watch and listen to you all day.
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@@autogefuehl You've got great style, man and really cool clothes. And of course, awesome Tesla info too : )
Deine Kamera ist immer recht dunkel, der Kontrast ist viel zu stark.
I would probably take the supercharger and better resell value of tesla.
My choice is Audi Q8 e-tron 👍
Hmm... I think I'll stick with an Enyaq.
Excellent production as per usual. As I said before BMW is on top of their game at this point in time. A great new year to all.
Happy new year!
Which one would you choose Thomas?😁
That’s what this video is about! 😎
Did you watched the video?
And youtube is throwing bmw 7 ads at me..
same here
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Audi is the most beautiful!
The EQS 580 SUV is my pick. Best in class luxury and it's a decent looking SUV. I think the Hyperscreen looks great. The iX may be a good EV but they missed the mark on looks, inside and out. The Model X is out because of that silly yoke and those impractical rear doors. I haven't seen the Audi in person so I don't have an opinion on it. Thanks for the reviews Thomas, keep them coming.
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Tesla model x plaid all the way!!!
Excellent cars for the wealthy, very, very nice. Anything for the working man? Didn't think so...
The IX would be cool... If they didn't axe the options.
You can't get air suspension and rear wheel steering on the xdrive40 or xdrive50 anymore. That means you need to get the M60. They also removed opening the tailgate with your foot and the massaging seat for the front passenger altogether due to lack of parts. It's not exactly luxurious to have a less luxurious vehicle compared to ones built a year before for pretty much the same price. Worse is that that some people who ordered an xdrive50 just got told "we're removing air suspension and rear wheel steering from your car, take it or leave it" after waiting many months.
With options the BMW IX M60 comes to 142K including tax (yep it's high here) for me in the Netherlands.
Speccing out a Mercedes EQE SUV with hyperscreen with the same options costs 134k. And then you get massaging seats for the front passenger as well as well as the kinda overkill hyperscreen. If you ditch the hyperscreen it comes to 125kish. Oh and the EQE comes with a heat pump (never buy the EQS without, lol).
Buying either without air suspension seems stupid to me, when the idea is to get a luxury SUV.
If you could get the xdrive50 with air suspension and rear wheel steering for around 110-120k it would be competitive. But BMW doesn't have the contracts anymore to get the parts apparantly.
I ll ask BMW about this, seems really strange to me indeed!
@@autogefuehl Great! I recommend maybe pinning it in a comment in your old reviews as well, because the xdrive50 is way less attractive now without air suspension and rearwheel steering, imo. All the bits about the drive feel are outdated now.
que lux por las vistas a mis canciones gracias ...........
Germans: *accelerating like sane person*
Tesla: *going plaid*
Nice cars.
Mercedes!
Forget the car, I wanna know what watch you are wearing!! :D
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@@autogefuehl Thank you!
When I buy a car, that will be for features,driving comfort, power, consumption and a little bit the look. I will go with that bmw ix all day long
I am looking for family EV SUV for 5 passangers. As BMW customer, I have tried IX and it is soo small. Charging is also nothing special for long trips. Etron is small in second row, also not usable. Tesla is fine, but dont want expensive Plaid. MB has problems with winter charging and SW stability. So what can I buy? Nothing yet.
seems like this then: th-cam.com/video/cFqrVPN60lI/w-d-xo.html
@@autogefuehl This is actual car, which will be replaced(we have 2020 model). PHEV is so bad technology for long term usage ...
MBs software stability should be the best out of the reviewed cars here
Go for the long range Model X when available.
@@baron_xd4633 have you check forums? Have you tested EQE? A lot of problems are with they platform. Also very slow charging in winter is big problem for me. I have also i4 M50(and i4 is not premiant of fast charging) and charging in winter is much faster, then EQE. Probably in summer is faster too according to charging curve.
Tesla Model X:
- Supercharger Network
- Faster
- Doesn’t rely on ApplePlay
- State of the Art Engineering
- Less Parts = less maintenance
- FSD
- Over the Air Updates
hi bro i want to buy ix 50 but i don't know if its easy to drive it im a beginner , which is better ix or i4 for handling in the road
I tried both, i4 and had the IX for 48hrs but ended up buying the ix3. The i4 is definitely the easiest and most fun to drive because of the size. The IX was just too big for city drives, I had issues with narrow car parks here in London and on tight streets where I worried I might scratch the sides but that's something you'd get used to after a few weeks and the ix3 was the best middle car and is still my favourite to this day. But if you want to the easiest car to navigate definitely the i4.
@@SpaceDusst thanks tom
que lux por las vistas a mis canciones gracias ......
Please review same affordable cars "cars for people"
Does that help maybe? th-cam.com/video/dEQubj8fETE/w-d-xo.html
i watched 2:06:53 hours without stoping.
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@@autogefuehl xd
Missing Polestar 3 here
Havent driven it yet. First view: th-cam.com/video/MQ-hjKQk5KY/w-d-xo.html
I ended up choosing the Q8 E Tron Prestige. Primarily because of the parts shortages BMW had been having and inability to get air suspension on the ix50. Apparently it's back and can be added as an option, but for a while there you could only get it in the m version, which just isn't worth it. I test drove them all and the Audi seemed the most comfortable to me but also the most "plain". If the air suspension was an option for the IX, i would've went with it just for the odd time I needed that extra range. The exterior is ugly, but if you get the sport version, it's good enough, and the interior is great.
the UIUX in the BMW is such an eye sore, especially put it next to the Audi and Tesla 😅
The Model X is the most efficient, is the fastest, has a huge trunk, technology, over the air updates, handles well, rides well, pretty quite, access to the best charging network… and you prefer the others?
German bias there?
I explained very thoroughly why. No German bias here at all
@@autogefuehl watched it again and its still not clear from your video why you didn’t choose the Tesla.
I quote you:
Other than the lack of apple carplay, you didn’t really give reasons for preferring the BMW and Audi over it.
The Tesla is the only one vegan only car brand, is the only one with a charging network, and then they go and improve the X in every way, that you called it just weeks ago the benchmark, it is according to you the most efficient, the fastest, huge trunk, has very good noise cancellation (better than Maybach you say), good ride & handles well with the newly tuned air suspension and offers the most seats.
I can only find one reason it doesn’t beat the less efficient, less space, less performance, no charging network, no vegan only German competitors… its not a German car.
Its a shame, as I truly like your videos and hoped you would not be biased.
Still very informative
Well, you can't tell someone what to like or not. From his experience with cars.
For me personally, I never and don't think I'll love Tesla. I love Merc, and sometimes they do awesome good, and sometimes not. I love Merc because of their elegant, luxurious, and reliable cars.
I don't like going deja vu, I mean why go that fast when there is no disaster?
The horrible build quality is reason enough to kick tesla out.. just check the users complaining about brand new tesla having dents, paint job not done properly etc.. for cars in luxury segment at >100k its a NO-GO.. for model 3 or y ir maybe fine but not the high-end car
@@bernard5260You don't try so be subjective and thats fine, he does, but I agree with you that he fails to do so and its clear he has a German bias.
That huge, garish grille on the BMW is so anachronistic and silly!
We will soon drive 3t cars
Animal free means plastic from dinosaurs.
Thank you very much for your interest in this topic. Please tune in to what the animal leather industry tried to do here with our channel: th-cam.com/video/nP_CvLlaFlI/w-d-xo.html
In general, depending on the animal skin grade, the animals are specifically raised for this matter. However even if meat would be the reason no.1 in other cases, the hide remains one of the most profitable body parts. That means: If manufacturers put animal leather in a car and you accept it as a customer, you give your money to an industry that earns money by oppressing humans, animals and destroys the environment, you make them more profitable. Also, if you turn the argument around "meat is the waste of the leather industry" you realize how biased the argument is. After all, would you care for which exact body part you would be murdered? Or imagine someone robs you on the street and beats you to death - would it matter to you if it was for your Smartphone or for your purse?
The animal agriculture industry occupies 2/3 of all farm land on this planet which cannot be used for direct human nutrition then. That is extremely inefficient. The no.1 cause for deforestation is the animal industry. It is also one of the biggest contributor to climate change. The amount of land, resources, energy and water being used is beyond imagination.
If you are interested in how the animals are being treated and transported in the global leather industry, watch this footage: th-cam.com/video/tkjCAmq1_8E/w-d-xo.html
Note that the footage is genuine and was recorded by a highly decorated investigative journalist in Germany I know myself personally.
For the alternative, you can either use artificial fabrics which can be made from recyclables (we have already shown a lot of vehicles that use great fabric seats from PET-bottles etc.) or more and more also from plant-based materials (like Pinatex or Desertex or Miriam). And even if you would create a seat completely with petroleum without a recycling share, the amount of oil being used for that is nothing in comparing just to once fueling up your car. By ditching animal skin leather from car interiors, the amount of emissions (CO2e) is reduced by 85 (!) %. So it is the most important thing you can do to make car interiors more sustainable.
In practical reasons, fabric or microfibre seats are just more useful. You do not sweat in summer and it is not cold in winter. And if you want the slick look or something to wipe clean easier, that is possible with animal free leatherette, even in ventilated options.
And there are also new leatherette materials available which are superior in every aspect: th-cam.com/video/u94YXJ72UTA/w-d-xo.html
More and more natural materials are rising: th-cam.com/video/nRSsXEnwHDo/w-d-xo.html or th-cam.com/video/yG3z7m6UqNg/w-d-xo.html
Using animal skin on seats is a major issue of animal rights, human rights - and after all it is just common sense what is better both for the environment and just more practical and more luxurious for the customer. We cannot change what we have bought in the past (that also counts for ourselves of course!), but with more information and compassion we can change how we decide in the future.
Using animal skin = more use for fossil fuels in the whole process
@@autogefuehl look guys, no need to have a militaristic response to someone that just potentially questioned your “higher than you” attitude when it comes to plastic, animals and, quite obviously, veganism. Since you put yourself on a pedestal of moralism, then project this purity to yourself first. When talking about animal free stuff, start differentiating between the stuff you mentioned in your reply. Right now you are very obviously not doing that.
Depends on which plastic is used. Also means it is likely recyclable unlike leather.
This response is not militaristic, it is just gathering issues that people ask for to explain the background. I didnt know better either before I did research on that. Has nothing to do with putting myself higher, on the contrary. I have a lot of effort and pain myself, I could just enjoy myself and say "what a nice leather seat" and not care. But I chose to stand up for those who dont have a voice - well they have a voice, but we are not listening enough. For me, it is very hard and painful to always answer the comments/questions etc., it literally takes years of my life to do this. But I know it is the right thing to do when I can save some lives with that.
Great technology wrapped in ugly exterior and interior design. Tesla and BMW have indifferent exteriors and unsightly and unusual interiors. It seems they are designed by comedians to make jokes for fun. Audi has indifferent exterior and decent interior. Mercedes tries to escape the ugliness, offers proper interior design and EQE SUV tries to move in the right direction in comparison to other EQ indifferent designs. Always, great and honest presentations by Thomas.
highly appreciated! Please share!
Wtf, why 3hrs…
I switched from Tesla Model X as my first EV to e-tron. Next will be an EQS or anything else in 2024. But will never go back to Tesla based on the bad build quality and Tesla "service" center experiences.
Model Y from their Berlin, Shanghai, or Austin factories are of higher quality than Fremont, which is where your X was made.
@@willitbreak5825 MY? really? buhahahaha. Only one central display for ALL driving related details & entertainment, no air suspension, small air filtering unit, newest cars w/o radar unit for parking. u made my day. did you really compare this cheap entry car with the high end Model X? buahahaha
@@maxmuster6123 this kind of information is so often overlooked and makes a huge difference in living with the car day to day!
i like the tesla
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Great #Tesla Video
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Go Beamer!!
I don’t understand the the constant obsession about animal products ( leather seats). If you’re a vegan personally and live that life, ok. However, most of us eat meat and will continue to do so. A byproduct is therefor leather. Should that be discarded. I’d offer that leather, given the abundance, is more “sustainable” than pumping oil and processing it to make PLASTIC. This whole topic is very European. I’ve never heard an American ever mention that leather seats were any consideration in their decision to buy a car (actually, not having leather is considered a detriment by many). I feel you overdo this topic. I enjoy your videos. Really quite exceptional. Using so many repeated seconds to try and program us against leather detracts.
Thank you very much for your interest in this topic. I also bought cars with animal skin leather seats before I did my research and got to know the industry. The most important thing is: With today's modern materials, you have nothing to lose, just to gain. You achieve the same kind of luxury and comfort or even better while having the same or better durability with less impact on humans, animals and the environment.
You can use fabric/cloth, microfibre or leatherette. They can be made from recyclables (e.g. from PET-bottles or old fishing nets) or even from plant-based materials (like Pinatex from pineapple leaves or Desertex from cactus fibre or the mixed-plant-based Mirum). Or the Polestar 3 e.g. is using pine oil. And even if you still create a leatherette seat the classic way with petroleum base without a recycling share, the amount of oil being used for that is very little in comparison to how much oil is used for other car parts or how much oil is burned for fuel or heating. By ditching animal skin leather from car interiors, the amount of emissions (CO2e) is reduced by 85 (!) % (www.press.bmwgroup.com/africa-dom-easteurope/article/detail/T0403389EN/on-the-market-from-2023:-bmw-and-mini-models-with-vegan-interiors?language=en). So it is the most important thing you can do to make car interiors more sustainable.
A good example for high-end luxury with ventilated animal free seats is the BMW X7 with Sensfin: th-cam.com/video/1pRNkW9nrrw/w-d-xo.html
New leatherette materials can be superior in every aspect: th-cam.com/video/u94YXJ72UTA/w-d-xo.html
More and more natural materials are rising: th-cam.com/video/nRSsXEnwHDo/w-d-xo.html or th-cam.com/video/S1aNZeoatmE/w-d-xo.html
Also check out what the animal skin leather industry tried to with our channel: th-cam.com/video/nP_CvLlaFlI/w-d-xo.html
For seeing how the animals are being treated and transported in the global leather industry, watch this footage: th-cam.com/video/tkjCAmq1_8E/w-d-xo.html
Note that the footage is genuine and was recorded by a highly decorated investigative journalist in Germany I know myself personally.
Depending on the animal skin grade, the animals are specifically raised for this matter. However even if meat is the first misuse case, the hide remains one of the most profitable body parts. That means: If manufacturers put animal leather in a car and you demand it as a customer, you give your money to an industry that earns money by oppressing humans, animals and harms the environment, you make them more profitable. Alternatively, you could support industries with your wallet which try to improve the sustainability of materials. Also, if you turn the argument around to "meat is the waste of the leather industry" you realize that it doesn't make sense (and is ethically doubtful) to discuss the priority use of individual body parts of mammals. Mind experiment: You are getting slain down or even murdered on the street; would it matter to you if it was for your smartphone or for your purse?
We cannot change what we have bought in the past, but with more information and compassion we can change how we decide in the future.
@@autogefuehl Wow Thomas. Excellent write up. Some people I know just happen to avoid leather because its the cool thing to do. However, you have put your head into this topic and researched it thoroughly. Its educative for people like me. I am sure with technical reviews, honest opinions and deep thought behind modern concerns like ethical or environment sustainability you stand out in the entire world of reviewers.
I am searching for a new SUV and still deciding between plug in hybrid (like 2024 GLE 450 E 4MATIC) or a full EV and your reviews definitely help.
When do you plan to cover 2024 GLE 450 E 4MATIC and do honest range test analysis for it's EV range ?
I guess Europe is more progressive than the USA in yet another way! Do your research on the requirements for breeding and raising cattle, ie water consumption and methane gas that adds to global warming … which why I am assuming might even be a reason you take an interest in EVs … sustainability … go figure “obsession” - good fragrance, perhaps, but not a nice way to define caring about the planet
Got him Thomas 😂
animal free…..overestimated nothing else
Plastic License Plates are more sustainable than metal ones? Since when? Why are we getting rid of everything plastic like plastic straws.
Do not be so gullible. THINK!
If you think about the production energy and weight, yes. Depends on if they hold as long as the metal plates
Pretty important to mention is that a model X built in 2023 gets no parking sensors. Tesla ran out of parts. They want to replace them with camera functionality but as of yet that software isn't available yet, and we don't know how well it will work. This is also the case on new model 3's and model Y's (but at least these got a substantial price drop).
No parking sensors on a 120K car is kind of a joke imo. And seems bad for value retention when older models do have it.
Nearly all the luxury brands are hit by the parts shortage and removing features from their otherwise luxury cars which means a buyer now gets an inferior version to what is already driving around and on the secondhand market. Maybe you should do a video about this and update your old reviews.
Thanks for the info! No way to update old reviews, but I can ask for the specific models; I do included that in new reviews when infos are present like e.g. also shortage of inductive charging pads
@@autogefuehl Maybe pin it in a comment under your old reviews. I don't think a situation like this happened before.
i could not own this. one spill and you cant even start the car anymore..........
What spill
Tesla cultists pooh-poohed the idea of Germans ever catching up. Guess what, they did and then some! BMW iX is my new absolute favorite electric car of them all. What a car!! But my god those interiors in the Merc!! Also, as always, great review Thomas. Gratulieren!
thanks keep tuning in !
I read the last comment Thomas … you got him in your reply … FYI, I guess Europe is more progressive than the USA in yet another way! They should do more research on the requirements for breeding and raising cattle, ie water consumption and methane gas that adds to global warming … which why I am assuming might even be a reason he takes an interest in EVs … sustainability … go figure “obsession” - good fragrance, perhaps, but not a nice way to define caring about the planet.
Tesla all the way
No way lmao
Mercedes EQS is better
The Tesla is like an electronic product, not a car. Just look back those unexplained accidents of Tesla, especially the braking issues, they are losing customer confidence.