Here is a new article about the 200th. Among other things, it confirms that Kurilo was not KIA, but the Ukrainians had good reason to believe he was. He was severely injured and had to be hospitalized: www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/12/16/russia-200th-brigade-decimated-ukraine/ Pick up a "Cyborg" shirt and we'll donate the profits to medical aid in Ukraine: battleorder.myshopify.com/collections/charity OSINT sources for 2014: sled-vzayt.livejournal.com/4458.html bmpd.livejournal.com/1632297.html informnapalm.org/1020-200-ya-otdelnaya-motostrelkovaya-brygada-osobogo-naznachenyya-severnogo-flota-vmf-rf-v-ukrayne/ Some people on Twitter who did a lot of aggregating of Russian military movements and geolocation in 2022: twitter.com/RALee85 twitter.com/DefMon3 twitter.com/Danspiun twitter.com/GeoConfirmed
this is first video I've seen from you ..I'm wondering what your other videos are like : ] If they are anything like this one that is super high quality i'm excited!
detailed documents with real and accurate information do not come by instantly in real time. it sometimes took decades after ww2 to uncover accurate info for historians and such. though the use of spy satellites and people recording things and uploading them into internet in this war is pretty real-time and open source, so this war might be an exception.
@@mz00956 Fun fact - many russians who got government compensation for KIA relatives use those money to buy a car. So they became cars in a way, just mostly Ladas, not KIAs.
yeah If you'd come at early days of TH-cam ..such things would seem silly and unimaginable..but look how normal that is now on TH-cam. TH-cam too like Tiktok has huge variety of content to offer..serious and silly.
@Siathuan ya that's not even close to the truth. The world doesn't evolve around the United States and Europe bro. The majority of the world still buy from Russia . Lay off the propaganda bro
I've covered the 1st GTA a little bit via the original short loss video in the first couple of weeks and the T-80 video, with the emphasis being on the 4th Guards Tank Division. It's a little harder to keep track of a unit that big though after they withdrew from the Sumy area and got all mixed up near Izyum. Probably won't cover the 1st GTA since it's what everyone is talking about but could do something else of the sort
@@BattleOrder You could perhaps make something about some of the elite Ukrainian units, like the 1st and 3rd Armored, 93rd Mechanized or 128th Mountain Assault, if you feel like it?
I'm not an expert on the situation in 2014 so I couldn't say for certain but I believe around the time the 200th brigade was operating around Luhansk the 93rd Brigade was about 180km to the west fighting at Donetsk airport
That's actually really cool, instead of looking at headlines (which are inherently selective), it's really interesting to see the story of individual units.
It's like the battle of Moscow, when they used the troops from the Far East to try and stabilize the situtation. Now they use the Northern troops. Except it is not working.
@@militaristaustrian Ukraine is on its home turf. They’re calling the shots. Once the Russians go for round 2, the Ukrainians will be better equipped, and more experienced. Meanwhile the Russians will have to resort to driving on roads, thus recreating the defeat in Kiev
I remember watching a documentary a few years ago, a Ukrainian soldier was being interviewed on the front line and said "Those are Russians over there, we hear them shout at us". I didn't believe it and thought it was just the rebels shouting in Russian, strange now to see that they were very likely being truthful.
I am from Kyiv and it was crystal clear Donbas was occupied by russians since 2014. there was plenty of evidence, they spoke with russian accents, used russian dialect words that no one uses in Ukraine even in the east and many of this russians went back to russa in bodybags but their relatives were forbidden to talk about that.
Before Feb 23rd I was watching Forte 11's flight path and knew it was using side-scanning radar to track heavy units moving near Kharkiv. Real Inception moment to track their exact movements from the Arctic Circle. Thank you
Here in Finland we are not particularly devastated by the big losses of Russian troops that have been stationed behind our border. Keep up the good work, Ukraine! ✌
Honestly the best video I’ve seen from you and I’ve watched a lot of them! Keep it up and please do more like this one, I liked the T-80 video and thought that was fantastic and yet you’ve outdone yourself again
Any plans on a video about the Ukrainian 93rd Mechanized Brigade? Those guys seem to have been pitted against the best troops Russia had available and often came out on top.
@@potatokato-chan3399 That Bakhmut that holds firm for 10 months already? That Bakhmut that cost Rasshists 20 000 KIA and 100 000 WIA in the last 5 months of fighting? That Bakhmut that was supposed to be in Russian hands for like 100 times up to this moment? Cute.
As a former arctic serviceman, these were the people we might have tussled with ourselves some day. Instead, they have been clowned to death by the Ukrainians. I owe a lot of Ukrainians a lot of beers. Slava Ukraini.
Not just them but the 1st Guards Tank army. This unit was supposed to take on NATO's armor in a possible war and they've been destroyed and reconstituted twice over in this war.
I just subscribed after watching the whole video at once because it was so well done. I'm always checking out new videos on the Russian Invasion of Ukraine but many are not close to being this good. Keep up the good work. I looks like you are American Vets, I'm from north of the 49th Parallel, "Ubique".
Your explanations of warfare just keep getting more and more interesting, keep it up Battle Order. The amount of losses this unit has suffered are staggering.
Excellent factual reporting. Thanks for bringing us this. It's great to see the focus on one or two orc units, following it from the beginning of the invasion to its latest standing (in this case, its demise). Subscribed, liked.
@RAD the rolf I don't think any air force in the world has encountered the sort of air defense that the Russian Aviation Forces encountered in Ukraine. When you look at both Ukraine and Russia in terms of plane tally then it seems very weird that they aren't controlling the skies. But if you took into account S-300 batteries, SPAAs, MANPADS (the things that inflicted the most casualties on Russian airpower) then it suddenly makes sense. Ukraine is littered with the stuff, as the Soviets had (and the Russians still do arguably) the largest and most capable air defense forces in the world, as a counter to the USAF. Plus, the Russian Aviation Forces are not the USAF and never were, as it was never Soviet or Russian doctrine to overwhelm the enemy with airpower since in a confrontation with NATO they would inevitably get crushed in the air. So it's a matter of an average air force taking on a pretty good air defense network.
a very sobering watch. its easy to forget that behind this disaster of a war, these are still humans and their deaths families torn apart. you hit the tone very well with your editing and voice acting. great respect to your efforts!
5:38 yeah i remember how statement that was something like "one BTG of 200nd Brigade was completely destroyed" turned to "whole 200nd brigade wiped out" - our media didn't realy knew difference between BTG and Brigade back then
Not a Russian sympathizer but this is just sad. Some of the most "advanced" Russian units being completely egged on by the Ukrainians. When the war first started I remember one of my friends being like "the 200th SMRB will be some of the best fighting forces Russia has to offer." And now just seeing of what they become. So much loss for so little gained. Completely unbelievable. Hopefully their families get given some sort of reparation for their loss, but knowing Russia, they won't, which is just more depressing.
They had bad intel, little suport. Interviews with russian prisoners pointed out that many of them had stuff taken away from them before the invasion (rifle optics, NVG's).
Most of them didn't even have red dot sights. Idk if any of you have ever tried being in a gunfight or training CQB, hell even in airsoft. The first thing you learn is: Without a red dot, you can't aim if you're being fired upon. It's basically impossible.
@@BattleOrder random side track. As I speak (and read way to many) Russian, I stumbled upon a note telling that certain amount of “mobilized” conscripts are set to be in “spetsnaz”. I am pretty sure they don’t have enough “experienced” conscripts to be there… is it possible? Or Spetsnaz in this case an euphemism for “storm troops” (cannon meat)?
@@Casyfill Depends on the type of Spetsnaz, because it's just a generic term for special troops (not the same as US SOCOM). In the army and VDV normal Spetsnaz units are typically special reconnaissance units that are meant to support the maneuver command but in this war have been used as line infantry, presumably because they lacked sufficient infantry to not to. Their doctrinal mission is somewhat special but the troops aren't necessarily special forces quality in the western sense
Ditto, id like to understand how the VDV failed to capture Hostemel and what was going through Russias mind at that time. DId they really think this would be a repeat of 2014? now they are high tailing their way out of Ukraine. Such a disgrace for an army who used to be regarded as second best in the world.
93rd Mechanised also nicknamed the Cyborgs, endured some brutal fighting in 2014, decent documentary out there about it. Long shot, but any chance of doing one for Ukraine's 4th Rapid Reaction Brigade? Keep up the great work as always!
@@gisha6791These guys were simple soldiers serving their country with mothers waiting at home. I'm your neighbor from Iceland and we have no army but I still have empathy for these regular guys who are my age. I respect all soldiers who serve their country with honor and integrity. Have a good one, cousin.
8:35 So you’re telling me that now is the time for Finland to reclaim Viipuri? It is historical Finnish territory after all, just as poutine claims all of Ukraine as Russian. Wouldn’t want to play by two sets of rules now, would we? :p
Sooner or later, one way or another, Russians has to learn to coexist with their neighbours instead of subjugating and exploiting them. Russia needs to create a scenario where nations ACTUALLY WANTS to join the Russian sphere of influence. The fact that everybody is willing to fight to get out of that sphere is a telltale sign how they operate and what they do to those countries.
The last Russins who knew they had to coexist with neighbors died when Ivan Grozny sacked Novgorod and destroyed last remnants of freedom in the country.
@@marrs1013 In the future, hopefully tech and supply. Think the relationship the US has with other nations. Hell, criticize the military industrial complex if you must, but you can't deny we've sold very well to other nations.
@@Foreign0817 How about democracy? Economic growt? Equality? Russia has none of it with the current leadership. Just look at Belarus. Who wants to end up like that? How many decades will it take for Russia to catch up with the Wests technilogical advantage? How many decades of corruption and stagnation a country has to endure under Russia, to get to this promised land?
The Russian military needs to westernize their military. Make the military smaller, more technologically advanced capabilities across all units, and comprised of all professionals. Sell off or just forget about that old Soviet stuff, save themselves the money. Stop it with the stupid nuclear weapons upgrades like Poseidon, having functional nuclear missiles and ballistic missile subs is enough.
I should ask the question, which is better to use. A brigade setup of troops, or a division set up of troops, each have their pros or cons, just asking because I’ve wondered this for a while
Depends on conflict you (may) fight. Brigade are more flexible formations compared to division (and regiments) in general, but on other hand, any casualties will hit brigade harder, compared to division. Personally, I think both should be combined and used. Relatively flexible and stronger combined arms brigades, combined with other support elements to form division (if there is need for one).
@@aleksaradojicic8114 so like a division of you are in a fixed fighting force, and a brigade for more fluid units like motorized infantry as it is flexible
@@quinlanels8503 Yes and no. It depends on divisional organisation, but changing of brigades between divisions or separation of brigades to do something alone is not unheard thing. But yes. Keeping brigades that spent a lot of time in one division, trained togheter and worked togheter can improve fighting strenght of that division. So no, type of formation (motorized infantry, armored and others) is not as so much important when you talk about division or brigade. For example, Yugoslavia during 1970s and 1980s decideth to move away from divisions towards brigades, because brigades were seen as faster to mobilize and move out of barracks compared to divisions (this was big issue during 1968 large manouveres started as response to Soviet invasion of Czechoslovakia).
It would appear that some of Russia's legendary brigades have been coasting on their earlier reputations for far too long. When it's time to go out and fight they lose and are written out of the story. May soon be the fate of Russia as a country.
Fast pace, informative, graphically pleasing, just the facts, and no bullsheet.* Liked, subscribed, and rang that bell. *That's Texan for "bullshit," which I have vowed never to type on the Net.
Excellent commentary and documentary. Strange thing... the 200th Motorized Rifle Brigade badge/emblem is very similar to the old South African Defense Force (SADF) badge... with the five point yellow fort being the CapeTown fort built by the Dutch after settling in the Cape of Good Hope.
You know whats funny? In battle of Raate road at Finnish winter war 1939-1940 44th division was destroyed. It was formed in Ukraine and consisted mostly ukrainians. Raate road is situated few hundred miles south of Pechenga. Now russian brirage from north is destroyed at fields of ukraine. Poetic.
There is zero evidence in the video that the brigade was destroyed or even rendered combat ineffective. There is not even an attempt to estimate what percentage of manpower and equipment was lost. What we know that it participated in clashes with Ukrainian forces near Kharkov and suffered some losses. The rest is propaganda and wishful thinking.
This is the first time I have come across your content. I can see you have done your homework. Great job and please keep it coming. 💯 I enjoyed it! Thank you.
I still can't cope with the fact that someone some time ago considered russian army as a second in the world and others (including myself) acknowledged that without much doubt. How could it be?
Because you, probably just like me, grew up watching the Soviet 1st of may parades. Thinking ''how are we ever going to defeat such an arrmy'' . But you know what, those parades aren't mend to impress us, it's to keep their own population afraid.
@@rockfella1377 Yeah. It reminds me of how Hitler claimed to have far more aircraft than he actually did. Of course this backfired because Britain panicked and bumped up airforce spending in response.
This is fucking surreal. These Grads were ambushed where I lived and I saw them in person in the morning of February 25th. And now I see them and parts of my neighborhood in your video.
All of this is sad and everyone should recognize that solders are real people, tanks, and equipment are manned by real people. All have Mothers, Fathers, Wife’s and Children. War Mongers like Putin and many others be viewed as destroyers of people and family’s. The same holds true of the Ukrainians whom are fighting for your country and freedom from Russian/Communist/Stalinist Aggression’s. May God have mercy on their souls and grant them peace.
Here is a new article about the 200th. Among other things, it confirms that Kurilo was not KIA, but the Ukrainians had good reason to believe he was. He was severely injured and had to be hospitalized: www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/12/16/russia-200th-brigade-decimated-ukraine/
Pick up a "Cyborg" shirt and we'll donate the profits to medical aid in Ukraine: battleorder.myshopify.com/collections/charity
OSINT sources for 2014:
sled-vzayt.livejournal.com/4458.html
bmpd.livejournal.com/1632297.html
informnapalm.org/1020-200-ya-otdelnaya-motostrelkovaya-brygada-osobogo-naznachenyya-severnogo-flota-vmf-rf-v-ukrayne/
Some people on Twitter who did a lot of aggregating of Russian military movements and geolocation in 2022:
twitter.com/RALee85
twitter.com/DefMon3
twitter.com/Danspiun
twitter.com/GeoConfirmed
RAD!
this is first video I've seen from you ..I'm wondering what your other videos are like : ] If they are anything like this one that is super high quality i'm excited!
@@matrixfull This one is part of our Battle Map series. Here is the playlist: th-cam.com/play/PLwb1pjLd3hpLE1AUHhtgLVjW8CUh5mLZ2.html
@@matrixfull they're all like this
@@BattleOrder What video editor do you use?
One of the greatest documentaries of a brigade in this conflict. I wish there will be more detailed videos about combat in this conflict.
The conflict is far from over. You’ll get your wish once the kinds of information you’re asking for are declassified for OSINT analysts & TH-camrs
Look up willy beating cancer he just interviewed an American that fought with Azov
Not alot of detail for what this video is making, but ok.
There's a good documentary called "93 the Battle for Ukraine the story of the 93rd Brigade Kholodny Yar"
detailed documents with real and accurate information do not come by instantly in real time. it sometimes took decades after ww2 to uncover accurate info for historians and such. though the use of spy satellites and people recording things and uploading them into internet in this war is pretty real-time and open source, so this war might be an exception.
Incidentally, "200" is a Russian army designation meaning "KIA". So it's kind of ironic how 200-th brigade became mostly 200.
Very nice info, bless up ya self.
For anyone else how is as stupid as I am...
KIA means "Killed in Action"
And not the car....
@@mz00956 Fun fact - many russians who got government compensation for KIA relatives use those money to buy a car. So they became cars in a way, just mostly Ladas, not KIAs.
@@docmoreau7540 well I hope they use the Car to get the heck out of Russia
Damn dude, talk about a bad omen
We've reached the point in history when TikToks documenting troop movements are referenced in war documentaries. My God.
It's probably been done for years, except before people were posting things to Facebook and TH-cam
yeah If you'd come at early days of TH-cam ..such things would seem silly and unimaginable..but look how normal that is now on TH-cam. TH-cam too like Tiktok has huge variety of content to offer..serious and silly.
Well, it's a good idea, if you can manage to record something significant, why not.
Better than a satellite on a cloudy day.
Chinese AI surveils TikTok.
imagine dragging your gear all that way only to run out of gas and having to abandon it all, 10/10 logistics
Imagine selling 80% of your Diesel to locals to buy food and body armor.
Talk about adding insult to injury; it's _Russian_ troops running out of fuel, when the rest of the world refuses to buy _their_ country's oil.
@Siathuan ya that's not even close to the truth. The world doesn't evolve around the United States and Europe bro. The majority of the world still buy from Russia . Lay off the propaganda bro
Imagine getting smoked by a tank of your company
@@Siathuanbut secretly they do lol
This is a very good video, congratulations!
Thanks mate!
❤ both you guys!!
holy cow, kings and generals..HERE?!
@@oldrabbit2121 what was biased about this video?
@@oldrabbit2121 are you capable of making a point? Which portion of this video is biased? What is untrue?
Production quality of your videos keeps getting better!
improvise adapt overcome
"You see comrade, you don't need socks if you loose your legs to frostbite."
I've heard reports that they've been back to using foot-wraps for months now.
@@FirstLast-di5sr Complete nonsense, they buy Russian analogues of American military shoes and socks.
You should do more of these. Would it be possible to cover the 1st guards tank division and their record in Ukraine?
I've covered the 1st GTA a little bit via the original short loss video in the first couple of weeks and the T-80 video, with the emphasis being on the 4th Guards Tank Division. It's a little harder to keep track of a unit that big though after they withdrew from the Sumy area and got all mixed up near Izyum. Probably won't cover the 1st GTA since it's what everyone is talking about but could do something else of the sort
@@BattleOrder Ah thank for the reply. Love the vids man o7.
@@BattleOrder You could perhaps make something about some of the elite Ukrainian units, like the 1st and 3rd Armored, 93rd Mechanized or 128th Mountain Assault, if you feel like it?
Possibly, although the Ukrainians have done a better job of concealing where specific units are at any given time from the public lol
@@BattleOrder Helo! Keep your good work!
It is interesting, that 93 Mech Brigade could've actually engaged the troops of 200th Arctic Brigade in 2014.
I'm not an expert on the situation in 2014 so I couldn't say for certain but I believe around the time the 200th brigade was operating around Luhansk the 93rd Brigade was about 180km to the west fighting at Donetsk airport
Vengeance was swift and extensive for the 2014 war. And more is to come
@@terrynewsome6698 no one asked
@@shellshockedgerman3947 it’s me
i’m the one who asked
@@emelyarye2641 i can confirm, im in your walls
That's actually really cool, instead of looking at headlines (which are inherently selective), it's really interesting to see the story of individual units.
It's like the battle of Moscow, when they used the troops from the Far East to try and stabilize the situtation. Now they use the Northern troops. Except it is not working.
But its slowly stabilizing. The Ukrainens will sooner or later bleed out
@@militaristaustrian I’ve my doubts about that. Then again winter is coming. And I suppose that give the same result.
@@militaristaustrian IDK man, all my pro russia posts have aged very, very poorly. And cope is not a good look.
@@militaristaustrian Not before ivan is back in russian with a missile in his butt.
@@militaristaustrian Ukraine is on its home turf. They’re calling the shots. Once the Russians go for round 2, the Ukrainians will be better equipped, and more experienced. Meanwhile the Russians will have to resort to driving on roads, thus recreating the defeat in Kiev
I remember watching a documentary a few years ago, a Ukrainian soldier was being interviewed on the front line and said "Those are Russians over there, we hear them shout at us".
I didn't believe it and thought it was just the rebels shouting in Russian, strange now to see that they were very likely being truthful.
I am from Kyiv and it was crystal clear Donbas was occupied by russians since 2014. there was plenty of evidence, they spoke with russian accents, used russian dialect words that no one uses in Ukraine even in the east and many of this russians went back to russa in bodybags but their relatives were forbidden to talk about that.
@aye shmarovozov сиди на бутылке тихо, баба, тебе слова не давали
@@Caesar88888 идиот, вся украина говорит на русском, а Донбасс тем более, про Крым вообще молчу
Before Feb 23rd I was watching Forte 11's flight path and knew it was using side-scanning radar to track heavy units moving near Kharkiv. Real Inception moment to track their exact movements from the Arctic Circle. Thank you
Glad to see the detailed military ‘history’. Good work!
Here in Finland we are not particularly devastated by the big losses of Russian troops that have been stationed behind our border. Keep up the good work, Ukraine! ✌
In Poland the same
Karelia...
@@xaxaszaposznikow175 Poles hatred towards Russians is legendary.
That’s quite understandable.
It’s a typical mindset of tiny countries towards their much larger neighbours.
@@tamerlane7 That depends entirely of the behaviour of said larger neighbour.
Insightful, nuanced, and really well produced! Appreciate it.
This better not be demonetized like has been happening to a lot of the other creators. Great work.
alot of them had been undemonetized fortunately as it was an error with youtube
I cannot imagine the amount of OSINT research that was necessary before even considering producing this.. you're doing the Lord's work sir
That global hawk flight on the border was pretty eye-opening...US had full awareness of their intent.
Not very much actually
Please! I don’t think God agrees with war,but I do appreciate the analysis of this channel and the amount of work that it must take.
Fully agreed. Very impressive open source work indeed!! The end result of combining maps and videos was equally impressive.
can somebody explain why it's so hard to capture kharkiv?
Best video I've seen, outstanding Research and production value!
A visual timeline of where events occurred! Been asking around for ages and it's so handy.
Amazing video! Well backed up with evidence, great job! Subbed.
Life is so ironic. 200 brigade become to 200 cargo. 3 times in a row.
если что в английском нет понятия 200 груза)))) там это kia
Great video. Much more informative that news reports that speak generically of "Ukrainian" and "Russian" forces. Keep up the good work!
Honestly the best video I’ve seen from you and I’ve watched a lot of them! Keep it up and please do more like this one, I liked the T-80 video and thought that was fantastic and yet you’ve outdone yourself again
Any plans on a video about the Ukrainian 93rd Mechanized Brigade? Those guys seem to have been pitted against the best troops Russia had available and often came out on top.
Bakhmut is showing the opposite huh
@@potatokato-chan3399 That Bakhmut that holds firm for 10 months already?
That Bakhmut that cost Rasshists 20 000 KIA and 100 000 WIA in the last 5 months of fighting?
That Bakhmut that was supposed to be in Russian hands for like 100 times up to this moment?
Cute.
often? losing badly
❤ thank you for all your incredible work, it's greatly appreciated!!
Great research; well done!
This must take a lot of research. Great short documentary and well presented. Sub'd.
Woah. I'm gonna spread this around. Great work!
As a former arctic serviceman, these were the people we might have tussled with ourselves some day. Instead, they have been clowned to death by the Ukrainians. I owe a lot of Ukrainians a lot of beers. Slava Ukraini.
Aye. Kill 'em all, let God sort them out.
The whole world owe Ukrainian for their efforts to stop putler and ruzzie
You are really welcome to ukraine as tourist,, you can go even now if few hours a day without electricity is ok for you)
Not just them but the 1st Guards Tank army. This unit was supposed to take on NATO's armor in a possible war and they've been destroyed and reconstituted twice over in this war.
TH-cam just recommended this channel and this video. First time watching Battle Order. Very impressed.
I just subscribed after watching the whole video at once because it was so well done. I'm always checking out new videos on the Russian Invasion of Ukraine but many are not close to being this good. Keep up the good work. I looks like you are American Vets, I'm from north of the 49th Parallel, "Ubique".
Your explanations of warfare just keep getting more and more interesting, keep it up Battle Order. The amount of losses this unit has suffered are staggering.
Excellent factual reporting. Thanks for bringing us this. It's great to see the focus on one or two orc units, following it from the beginning of the invasion to its latest standing (in this case, its demise). Subscribed, liked.
Well set tone and mood for this video, please keep this format.
I'm starting to think that Russian forces are like the Iraqi Republican Guards. Highly overestimated
Always has been.
You've only now realized this?
@@Tom_Cruise_Missile yes because I expected Russia to gain at least air superiority but NO they didn't
@RAD the rolf I don't think any air force in the world has encountered the sort of air defense that the Russian Aviation Forces encountered in Ukraine. When you look at both Ukraine and Russia in terms of plane tally then it seems very weird that they aren't controlling the skies. But if you took into account S-300 batteries, SPAAs, MANPADS (the things that inflicted the most casualties on Russian airpower) then it suddenly makes sense. Ukraine is littered with the stuff, as the Soviets had (and the Russians still do arguably) the largest and most capable air defense forces in the world, as a counter to the USAF. Plus, the Russian Aviation Forces are not the USAF and never were, as it was never Soviet or Russian doctrine to overwhelm the enemy with airpower since in a confrontation with NATO they would inevitably get crushed in the air. So it's a matter of an average air force taking on a pretty good air defense network.
@@buckplug2423 US has dealt with Soviet style Air defense in Iraq, Yugoslavia, and Libya
Nice, clean, to the point, sourced presentation. Good work!
Great documentary with very good infographics, looks like something TV channels should be doing.
Yeah seriously, this is like something I'd see aired on DW!
Spectacular job with your editing and narration. Some of the very best documentary work I've seen on the conflict. Keep it up!
Excellent content!
Thanks mate
great video with insane detail and visual backup
200th brigade having a lot of "200's" - oh the irony
Hope to see more of these
By far some one of the best put together videos of evidence I've seem done lately
Great video mate, thanks for everything you do especially the charity work, subbed and liked, respect from Australia
Amazing content! Subscribed
a very sobering watch. its easy to forget that behind this disaster of a war, these are still humans and their deaths families torn apart. you hit the tone very well with your editing and voice acting. great respect to your efforts!
Only just found this channel and it's amazing. Keep up the great video's mate.
When you get some spare time you should cover the battle of Donetsk airport and show the origin of the nickname "Cyborgs"
5:38 yeah i remember how statement that was something like "one BTG of 200nd Brigade was completely destroyed" turned to "whole 200nd brigade wiped out" - our media didn't realy knew difference between BTG and Brigade back then
Finland Defense Forces: I guess we can cut out military budget now
Worth the wait and the effort. Thanks so much for a uniquely informative video.
Not a Russian sympathizer but this is just sad. Some of the most "advanced" Russian units being completely egged on by the Ukrainians. When the war first started I remember one of my friends being like "the 200th SMRB will be some of the best fighting forces Russia has to offer." And now just seeing of what they become. So much loss for so little gained. Completely unbelievable. Hopefully their families get given some sort of reparation for their loss, but knowing Russia, they won't, which is just more depressing.
And not an isolated occurrence, either. The VDV got completely creamed, as the did the Marines and even the famed Guards Armored units.
They had bad intel, little suport. Interviews with russian prisoners pointed out that many of them had stuff taken away from them before the invasion (rifle optics, NVG's).
most of the families must've been told that their sons are MIA since the russian government doesn't seem to bother repaying their lost sons
Most of them didn't even have red dot sights. Idk if any of you have ever tried being in a gunfight or training CQB, hell even in airsoft. The first thing you learn is: Without a red dot, you can't aim if you're being fired upon. It's basically impossible.
@@Killerpixel11 I would say their Marines are the only ones who have performed at least somewhat well.
Liked and subscribed. Meticulously researched, clearly presented. Thank you.
Thank you for your work, I really enjoyed it!
Great work on this video. Can tell you actually put thought and facts into it, without flaming bias
cope harder
Well done. Very compelling, informative and entertaining documentary. Worth rewatching time and again.
This channel is like my S2 brief for the day, great work!
Looking forward to similar one on airborn. I wonder how they adopted to be used as regular troopers
One of history's constants is paratroopers being pressed into line infantry roles because bodies are more important than the next special op
@@BattleOrder random side track. As I speak (and read way to many) Russian, I stumbled upon a note telling that certain amount of “mobilized” conscripts are set to be in “spetsnaz”. I am pretty sure they don’t have enough “experienced” conscripts to be there… is it possible? Or Spetsnaz in this case an euphemism for “storm troops” (cannon meat)?
@@Casyfill Depends on the type of Spetsnaz, because it's just a generic term for special troops (not the same as US SOCOM). In the army and VDV normal Spetsnaz units are typically special reconnaissance units that are meant to support the maneuver command but in this war have been used as line infantry, presumably because they lacked sufficient infantry to not to. Their doctrinal mission is somewhat special but the troops aren't necessarily special forces quality in the western sense
Ditto, id like to understand how the VDV failed to capture Hostemel and what was going through Russias mind at that time. DId they really think this would be a repeat of 2014? now they are high tailing their way out of Ukraine. Such a disgrace for an army who used to be regarded as second best in the world.
@@GrimYak if the reports of downed IL76s are true, I presume that that definitely had something to do with it.
Very well done, sir. I really like that you make very clear what is fact and what is speculation.
Well researched. Gladly, more of these detailed military units ‘history’.
Thank you for this video!
What struck me was the comment that they only removed 2014 markings in 2022.
Doesn't strike me as efficient and organised
Thanks! Good info about 200. Because they are/was, Finlands main enemy in north!
93rd Mechanised also nicknamed the Cyborgs, endured some brutal fighting in 2014, decent documentary out there about it.
Long shot, but any chance of doing one for Ukraine's 4th Rapid Reaction Brigade?
Keep up the great work as always!
I really appreciate your care in distinguishing between what you know and what seems likely.
Great work done by Ukraine 🇺🇦 God bless Ukraine.
Don't bring your blood god into this, your god caused this war. Ukraine deserves all the credit not your god
OUTSTANDING ANALYSIS. Thanks for posting.
Excellent video. RIP all those lost on both sides
neeh......norway are very happy the russian artic brigade are buried in Ukraine
@@gisha6791 good for you
@@theironlemon_4156 yes it good for us. Because those would have been the first in an invasion of us, with murder and rape and loothing
@@phillav11 we are not choking on our oil. We're saving the welth for the future
@@gisha6791These guys were simple soldiers serving their country with mothers waiting at home. I'm your neighbor from Iceland and we have no army but I still have empathy for these regular guys who are my age. I respect all soldiers who serve their country with honor and integrity. Have a good one, cousin.
Great vid and very well investigated 👌👌👌
Great video. I have no sympathy for these troops but seeing their path was interesting.
I really like the timeline slider on the top of the video
Good research
@@basharalassad1073 cope
Thank you. A excellent article. Keep up the good work.
8:35 So you’re telling me that now is the time for Finland to reclaim Viipuri? It is historical Finnish territory after all, just as poutine claims all of Ukraine as Russian. Wouldn’t want to play by two sets of rules now, would we? :p
dont you disgrace the delicious dish poutine with the shallow dunce putler
Perfect time for a referendum
@@esoessify need to be sham one then as there are no finns left in Viipuri
@@chinesesparrows My bad! lol
Well, let's try. Putin's Iskander stands five kilometers from my house near Vyborg.
Well researched. And encouraging that they were indeed made combat ineffective, even if they weren’t destroyed.
Sooner or later, one way or another, Russians has to learn to coexist with their neighbours instead of subjugating and exploiting them.
Russia needs to create a scenario where nations ACTUALLY WANTS to join the Russian sphere of influence. The fact that everybody is willing to fight to get out of that sphere is a telltale sign how they operate and what they do to those countries.
They need to learn cooperation goes both ways.
The last Russins who knew they had to coexist with neighbors died when Ivan Grozny sacked Novgorod and destroyed last remnants of freedom in the country.
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What do the Russians offer?
@@marrs1013 In the future, hopefully tech and supply. Think the relationship the US has with other nations. Hell, criticize the military industrial complex if you must, but you can't deny we've sold very well to other nations.
@@Foreign0817
How about democracy? Economic growt? Equality? Russia has none of it with the current leadership. Just look at Belarus. Who wants to end up like that? How many decades will it take for Russia to catch up with the Wests technilogical advantage? How many decades of corruption and stagnation a country has to endure under Russia, to get to this promised land?
Nice Order of Battle Analysis.
Very professional.
It will be a miracle if Russia has a functioning military at all after this.
It would have to be rebuilt from the ground up. Hopefully with a new, more positive mindset this time.
They don't even have one now, I doubt it'll improve by wars end.
@@Foreign0817 with so much corruption, it would make little to no difference whatsoever
If there smart, they’ll go for a all-professional force.
Too bad they’re still thinking like it’s 1942 again……
The Russian military needs to westernize their military. Make the military smaller, more technologically advanced capabilities across all units, and comprised of all professionals.
Sell off or just forget about that old Soviet stuff, save themselves the money. Stop it with the stupid nuclear weapons upgrades like Poseidon, having functional nuclear missiles and ballistic missile subs is enough.
Excellent video, this concept is a brilliant one I hope you continue. I’m sure it was a lot of work to research but MORE PLZ
I should ask the question, which is better to use. A brigade setup of troops, or a division set up of troops, each have their pros or cons, just asking because I’ve wondered this for a while
Depends on conflict you (may) fight. Brigade are more flexible formations compared to division (and regiments) in general, but on other hand, any casualties will hit brigade harder, compared to division.
Personally, I think both should be combined and used. Relatively flexible and stronger combined arms brigades, combined with other support elements to form division (if there is need for one).
@@aleksaradojicic8114 so like a division of you are in a fixed fighting force, and a brigade for more fluid units like motorized infantry as it is flexible
@@quinlanels8503 Yes and no. It depends on divisional organisation, but changing of brigades between divisions or separation of brigades to do something alone is not unheard thing. But yes. Keeping brigades that spent a lot of time in one division, trained togheter and worked togheter can improve fighting strenght of that division.
So no, type of formation (motorized infantry, armored and others) is not as so much important when you talk about division or brigade. For example, Yugoslavia during 1970s and 1980s decideth to move away from divisions towards brigades, because brigades were seen as faster to mobilize and move out of barracks compared to divisions (this was big issue during 1968 large manouveres started as response to Soviet invasion of Czechoslovakia).
Amazing piece of investigation work!Thanks for your efforts?Greetings from Spain.
It would appear that some of Russia's legendary brigades have been coasting on their earlier reputations for far too long. When it's time to go out and fight they lose and are written out of the story. May soon be the fate of Russia as a country.
Excellent video! Very well-researched and great to watch!
As a Finn I can't stop loving the fact that the Russians have taken huge losses.
Seconded by us Swedes!
Less Orcs makes the world a better place!
Fast pace, informative, graphically pleasing, just the facts, and no bullsheet.* Liked, subscribed, and rang that bell.
*That's Texan for "bullshit," which I have vowed never to type on the Net.
Excellent commentary and documentary. Strange thing... the 200th Motorized Rifle Brigade badge/emblem is very similar to the old South African Defense Force (SADF) badge... with the five point yellow fort being the CapeTown fort built by the Dutch after settling in the Cape of Good Hope.
Good report and timeline very intresting!
Keep up the good work !👍
You know whats funny? In battle of Raate road at Finnish winter war 1939-1940 44th division was destroyed. It was formed in Ukraine and consisted mostly ukrainians. Raate road is situated few hundred miles south of Pechenga. Now russian brirage from north is destroyed at fields of ukraine. Poetic.
There is zero evidence in the video that the brigade was destroyed or even rendered combat ineffective. There is not even an attempt to estimate what percentage of manpower and equipment was lost.
What we know that it participated in clashes with Ukrainian forces near Kharkov and suffered some losses.
The rest is propaganda and wishful thinking.
@@ayrnovem9028 I see you are capable of copy and pasting your 1 comment. Pretty high IQ for a Mongoloid-Tatar orc
@@ayrnovem9028 Of course, this channel will be heavily biased, but as a video demonstrating OSINT work, it's excellent.
This presentation was just - Exceptionally Well Done.. !!
Must be tough being an arctic soldier when your final station is the hot bowels of hell.
This is the first time I have come across your content. I can see you have done your homework. Great job and please keep it coming. 💯 I enjoyed it! Thank you.
I still can't cope with the fact that someone some time ago considered russian army as a second in the world and others (including myself) acknowledged that without much doubt. How could it be?
Propaganda
Because you, probably just like me, grew up watching the Soviet 1st of may parades. Thinking ''how are we ever going to defeat such an arrmy'' .
But you know what, those parades aren't mend to impress us, it's to keep their own population afraid.
@@rockfella1377 Yeah. It reminds me of how Hitler claimed to have far more aircraft than he actually did. Of course this backfired because Britain panicked and bumped up airforce spending in response.
Thank you for this video really good information and nice maps and graphics keep it up. New sub obviously
Greetings from Norway, arctiks
Don't worry, you guys are safe now.
Great video, it’s amazing how many footage can you find and truly track the movement of the units.
Great video, so good getting facts over propoganda. Slava Ukraini, continue the good fight!
This is fucking surreal. These Grads were ambushed where I lived and I saw them in person in the morning of February 25th. And now I see them and parts of my neighborhood in your video.
All of this is sad and everyone should recognize that solders are real people, tanks, and equipment are manned by real people. All have Mothers, Fathers, Wife’s and Children. War Mongers like Putin and many others be viewed as destroyers of people and family’s. The same holds true of the Ukrainians whom are fighting for your country and freedom from Russian/Communist/Stalinist Aggression’s. May God have mercy on their souls and grant them peace.
Amazing production quality man!