This was very informative! I was diagnosed with Cadasil which sometimes is misdiagnosed as ms. I am grateful to the radiologist who read my MRI and interpreted my results. He stated to rule out Cadasil of which my neurologist had never heard of. Her plan was to go down the MS road because of the extensive lesions. (My MRI looked like the 90 year old woman’s…I was 58 at the time!). I did a google search of Cadasil and new that’s what I had because of my family history of early deaths of strokes and “ms”. A DNA blood test confirmed it. Unfortunately there is no treatment or cure for Cadasil…but a good sense of humor goes a long way 😉
For anyone interested, you can look up this study. A team of international researchers has found that the Tsimane indigenous people experience less brain atrophy than their American and European peers. The decrease in their brain volumes with age is 70% slower than in Western populations. Accelerated brain volume loss can be a sign of dementia. SEVENTY percent slower. USC Leonard Davis School of Gerontology
My MRI is so crazy scary. I've had MS for almost 30 years (EDSS 6.5). I have mostly periventricular lesions, Dawson's fingers, and white picket fence lesions, plus lesions throughout the cervical/thoracic spine. But the scariest part is the massive amount of brain atrophy. I'm 51 but my brain looks about 80. You don't need to be a neurologist/radiologist to see my brain and say "whoa". I am amazed I am not bedridden.
Hi Andrew just wondering did you had severe headaches btw lasting btw 1 to 2 months. They told I had some white matter lesions. And I have tension headaches n sometimes really bad anxiety that last for 1 month. It’s scary I have started feeling super depressed n just praying to god.
For anyone interested, you can look up this study. A team of international researchers has found that the Tsimane indigenous people experience less brain atrophy than their American and European peers. The decrease in their brain volumes with age is 70% slower than in Western populations. Accelerated brain volume loss can be a sign of dementia. SEVENTY percent slower. USC Leonard Davis School of Gerontology
I got a diagnosis of CIS from a neurologist after a bout of symptoms and an MRI showing 3 small lesions. He wanted to see me again in 3 months but he stopped practicing. I had to go to other neurologists and they all said my MRI didn't show Ms and that a lot of people have lesions. I also got a bout of optic neuritis during this time but no diagnosis. They kind of became dismissive of the eye issue but sente for new MRIs. They said I have small ones but some of my symptoms could even be from having a bad neck. So on their request I went to a neurosurgeon to look at my MRIS. He brought in a colleague to look as well and they went over the whole ordeal. They looked at multiple slices of my MRI just like in this video. They told me that I probably have MS and everything points to it and referred me to an MS specialist. The Specialist spent an hour with me doing a physical and looking at my MRI reports. She gave me a diagnosis of RRMS and I'm currently on Tecfidera. I remember wanting to go back and scream at the other Neurologists for me wasting a year of my life. I was advised to find an MS support group andvI quickly realized soooo many people go thru hell trying to get a diagnosis. One person waited 9 years
Took me 4 years to get diagnosed, the "top" neurologist in the country at barrows neurological Institute...I saw 5 different neuros, 1st said it's MS, second specialist said no no the legions are caused by your migrains, migrain specialist said oh no, this is MS, 3rd neuro said inconclusive, 4th neuro finally did lumbar puncture, found greater than 7 mismatched o-bands but wanted another specialist opinion and so the 5th neurologist finally gave the verdict....it's ms. Duh. Lol long road of ups and downs...hang in there and keep getting multiple opinions! ❤ much love and good luck.
@@ellymay7238just always remember- your body is constantly trying to repair itself, regeneration of the myelin sheath is possible at any stage. A few requirements though: nerves need many vitamins like D, B1,3,6,9,12, Mg, iron, copper, zinc, and A/E. HEALTHY FOOD FIRST, every meal. Need to eliminate the toxins like smoking or drinking or added sugars and ultra processed food products. Quality sleep and reduce stress.
Thank you so much! I feel like I can finally sleep better tonight. I saw some very scary scans recently, but they don't look like MS according to your video. We see a cardiologist and neurologist soon for their professional opinions, but I feel like I can relax some until those appointments now. Thank you again for such concise information!
I love it when you say being a radiologist is easier than it looks! it is definitely not easier than being a neurologist, who always has an easy diagnosis for every one. It is psychological! Poor patients who are labeled psychopath while they have serious neurologic disorders! Good video though!
Can you please detail why self diagnosis is detrimental to the patient, to other patients & to the medical professionals? (not specific to MS but for disorders in general) @@DrBrandonBeaber
Was falsely diagnosed with MS. I went numb from the neck down A tingly numb like when your leg falls asleep I could still walk and move around I just had to watch my feet while walking. I couldn’t type any more. I made it through college and worked full time It was very difficult My home doctor said I was stressed out and to listen to my body Eat what it tells me to eat I went to a neurologist Had mri had white blotches all over brain All the specialists said I had MS I couldn’t afford medication so 2 years later still numb from neck down I seen my home doctor again He said quit stressing. Don’t stress about anything no matter what and eat what my body craved I did just that and within months it went away I quit stressing and ate a lot of friut It came back once a few years later and was just my leg and didn’t last but a few weeks and it’s been 30 years since then and never happened again
Hey harry did you also had headaches every day for 1-2months. In my first episode I had symptoms of paralyzed arms n legs but then went away. Did you sleep normal hours n what did you eat.
Thank you for great informative video, always wished I could understand my MRI scans myslef at least to some extent. Could it theoretically happen that a radiologist mistakes a new MRI lesion for a "benign" one in patient with MS? For future video recommendation, I'd like to see explained comparison of SC versus IV administration of anti CD20 DMT (I remember there was some new study on this topic). I'm currently in clinical trial for SC Ocrelizumab, so bit biased:)
Could you make a video on nervous system hyperexcitability disorders (benign fascination syndrome, cramp fascination syndrome, isaacs syndrome and morvans syndrome)? As youtube's resident expert on neurological autoimmune diseases I think you would be uniquely qualified to give an interesting perspective. There isn't a ton of good quality information on them and there's almost no information on youtube from a neurologist's perspective.
Very helpful, but can you possibly give a more elemental basic “101” of how to read MRI’s and even possibly CT scans? Especially for older docs like me who graduated before the advent of MRI’s 😭😭
This is so fascinating! Have you read Dr. Bill Code's book _Solving the Brain Puzzle?_ As a doctor who has also had MS for decades, through his research he has come to believe that MS is a vascular disease, not primarily an autoimmune condition. I find that so interesting because my MRIs most often look far more like the vascular ones you showed here than the MS ones. Maybe there is a connection?
I have not read the book, but there is a theory proposed by Dr. Paulo Zamboni that MS is caused by venous insufficiency. My video on this here: th-cam.com/video/sqoK9BkI6g0/w-d-xo.html There is actually extremely strong evidence that MS is largely immune mediated. I may do a video on this topic at some point.
@@DrBrandonBeaber thank you for the reply. Yes, Dr. Code had the CCSVI liberation therapy twice, and I think that's what started his investigation, though not in exactly the same direction as Dr. Zamboni took. Obviously venoplasty is not a final solution since the procedure was not ever investigated or developed well enough to provide lasting improvement. But it's certainly an interesting direction that I think needs a lot more research still. I agree that there must be some kind of autoimmune component too, as we know how things like infections (UTI, for example) can have such an impact on relapses, etc.
I have an enlarged ventricle in the brain that is highly suspected of being hydrocephalus, with surgery happening soon. Since more than four years ago I've been getting random hearing "attacks", and this all started in February 2020 with random bouts of dizziness that lasted a few minutes then subsided, but the bouts became much more frequent and happened several times a day, this lasted about a month, then seemed to stop. Got an MRI and it turned out normal. Then in June 2020 had a hearing attack and went to a doctor at emergency but they didn't treat it that time. Got another MRI in 2021 after the hearing in my right ear went funny for about 6 weeks in December 2020 (then recovered around 90%, I did take lots of steroids that time, unlike the first time, even though the first episode recovered). I kept going through "attack" after "attack" and eventually treating it with steroids in some fashion. Ultimately I am still left with some residual fullness on the right side, and some bizarre tinnitus along with occasional nausea and ongoing balance problems if I turn my head too quickly. I suspect it could be related to the hydrocephalus or the enlarged ventricle in my brain. 11 hearing "attacks" since June 2020, with unilateral tinnitus often presenting either at the onset or shortly after the "attack". Is it possible that these random "attacks" could be caused by this excess cerebrospinal fluid enlarging one of my ventricles? My ENT suspects Menieres, since I did have random episodes of dizziness and balance problems that came and went either before or after the hearing attacks, sometimes days or weeks before or after. I am still at a loss as to what is going on, and if you could enlighten me I'd be most appreciative. I'm surprised I've made it this far without going completely insane.
Dr. Beaber, an interesting study on the benefits of CAR T-cell therapy for lupus has been conducted by Friedrich Alexander University. While I'm sure it is very early days to speak confidently, there is speculation that the results may show promise for future potential for other autoimmune diseases like MS. I wonder if you would be able to do a video on this research and it's possibly implications for MS therapies. Additionally, my understanding is that MS is not a immune cell-specific autoimmune disease, on that no one specific class of immune cells has been identified as being responsible for MS activity. Would this be a constraints for therapies like CAR T-cell therapy or can it work more generally like the way HSCT stem cell therapy works for MS?
Dr Beaber great information. Question: I am 50 yrs old with the only symptom being hypertension. I got an MRI and everything was normal BUT there was a sentence that says ""Subtle periventricular area of abnormal signal is appreciated. The possibility of white matter changes has to be considered". What does this mean? Can this be MS or White Matter Disease, etc? I feel just fine with no symptoms. I just want to know what does this sentence on MRI means?
I have a few small white matter spots on my brain but have been told it’s from migraines. Yet I have so many MS symptoms. It’s a constant battle with my own body and me also thinking my doctors are reading my scans wrong.
I have same issues I have white matte in my brain mri few spots I’m 43yr old the doctor said it’s normal , I did have dizziness symptoms vision issues can’t focus , I’m not put on any medicine ,I was alcoholic for 10yr maybe that’s why I got these spots my blood pressure was high those days now I haven’t drink in 1yr my blood pressure is normal I’m not in med it was high because of alcohol and have heart issues because of alcohol my heart hey skip beats and pacs , I enjoy those 10yr alcohol is something I was unhappy without it I was very happy with life when I was drinking I’m not regret we going to die one day I hope I get to live to see my 50 haha 😂
@@soldier2152 do you get migraines? I just went to see a balance/dizziness specialist & with every test I have had done & let me tell u, I’ve had 12 MRI’s, she said the only thing that makes sense is I have vestibular migraines with dizziness. Kinda hard to believe bc my dizziness is 24/7. I was put on Nurtec for preventative migraines and have been on that for 3 months. No help at all. So frustrating.
My Neurologist told me my two spots are scar tissue from demyelination, but I am so scared that the official report from the radiologist will say it’s just migraine because I had a strong pain for a few seconds and that’s why I ended up in the MRI machine. I do however have all the MS symptoms and they checked my nerves in arm/hands and legs/feet and they were okay. I’m 26 and usually don’t have migraines, but numbness, tingling, nerve pain, fatigue, can’t swallow and choke on food and water, can’t walk for long because all my muscles in my body hurt and I constantly feel sore, vision problems that come and go. Like… no one can explain it….
@@KikisStudyCorner sorry you’re going through all that. It’s not fun. I’m 2 years in & still have no answers for my issues. I hope you find someone that will be able to help you soon. Crazy how we can have so many symptoms yet nothing shows up & they have no idea what’s going on with us.
Dr.B great info as always. I am very impressed that you keep coming up with valuable MS information videos. Do think MRI’s showing lesions in both the spine and the brain are more apt to be a MS? That’s how I was diagnosed and My neurologist send that I did not need a spinal tap to confirm MS.
Dr B another great episode of your show !! great information Do lesions themselves cause ms or ms like symptoms ? If A person has lesions caused by migraines could they have difficulty walking and be did with ms ?
MS lesions can cause symptoms or can be asymptomatic. Typically, "unidentified bright objects" associated with migraine headaches are not associated with specific symptoms.
I know it's maybe impossible to answer but how much worse is the prognosis with cervical lesions generally contra only brain lesions? And does having one lesion increase the chance of more lesions forming nearby? I'm aware that placement and size matters more than amount but there must be some ballpark figure. Thank you for everything BB!
Amazing video explanation, Dr. Beaber. Why can someone, confirmed with MS from Cedar Sinai team, have many lesions (30+ with Dawson fingers) still be fully functional with a 1 EDSS?
T2 brightness on MRI says little about the function of the tissue. Some people have extensive lesions and extensive remyelination ("shadow plaques") on MRI. Disability is more correlated with T1 "black holes" and atrophy than T2 bright lesions.
@@DrBrandonBeaber Appreciate all your informational videos! On your silent MS symptoms video, there are two unique and rare visual symptoms that MS seems to cause which is Oscilopsia and retinal ganglion cell loss. Are there any DMTs or HSCT that halts or helps with those?
Dear Dr, I was wondering why MS has the reputation of being such a difficult condition to diagnose. Since a brain MRI can basically confirm or rule out MS, what exactly can make the condition so hard to diagnose ? I know you mostly gave an answer in the video while talking about lesions and other diseases, but still. Once again, thank you very much for your time !
The diagnostic criteria are quite complicated and not based solely on MRI explained in this video: th-cam.com/video/Ixns85V95-Y/w-d-xo.html Although most people with MS have an MRI scan of the brain highly consistent with the disease, there are exceptions.
Dr. Beaber- thank you for this video. I was still curious- what if you have small foci of T2 hyperintensity seen in the periventricular and subcortical white matter? No history of migraines, or vascular disease indications- in a 36 year old female (first noted in a 33 year old female) with a history of tremors, falling, and other symptoms indicating that person is experiencing neurological issues? I understand that non-specific WML are common, but can these lesions be an early sign of MS? Would it be rare for them to exist but not progress in 3 years?
What is means in a MRI scaretted t2 hyperintense foci within cerebral white matter are nonspecific? And in the right frontal there are a couple subcortical foci of increased flair signal non specific for patients of this age? Please thank you.
I was diagnosed with significant preventricular and deep matter. My MRI is bad like my whole brain. I'm 55 and very scared. I don't have high blood pressure. I don't have sugar diabetes. My cholesterol is good. I don't smoke. I got a lot a lot of migraines. I don't know what to expect 😢
Migraines can cause legions. I’m like you. Low bp, cholesterol, body weight and not diabetic. They told me it was small vessel eschimia but I’m not a candidate for cardiovascular diseases. I do get silent migraines (vestibular migraines) and typical migraines.
I got done all that I got all that stuff that you mentioning because they've been treating me since I was in Florida so it's been a long time they been treating me since Florida
I'm 38 diagnosed at 35 and have lesions in spine & brain but always felt I have a vascular issue as I wake up with numb hands then goes away after I lift them up to drain the blood. Just confirmed I do have bilateral thoracic outlet syndrome. So is it possible that vascular could cause anything in spine...or are spine lesions strictly MS? Thanks so much great video. 👍
I can't comment on your specific situation, but we do not see "unidentified bright objects" in the spine. it is possible to have injury to the spine due to vascular problems such as a stroke, but these lesions are generally not typical of multiple sclerosis.
My lesions look like the not ms lesions in this video but my symptoms present like ms and my mri say atypical MS and I just got a possible diagnosis of ON and waiting to see a neuro ophthalmologist to confirm. "10 years of we don't know. " to this.
Radiologists are very good at interpreting medical imaging and help us to see things we might otherwise overlook. For example, one of my patients was incidentally found to have a nasopharyngeal carcinoma on an MRI scan of the brain I almost certainly would have missed.
@@DrBrandonBeaberMy Neurologist looked at the MRI with me together before we had the official report and he pointed out two round spots on each side and first said that these are scar tissue, when I asked later again what exactly these spots are he said it’s demyelination, but before he can give me medicine he has to wait for the official report, so we know if there are more of them or not. How does he know that it’s demyelination and not like vascular/white matter disease? A migraine attack? How does one see the difference? I’m 26 and have numbness, tingling and strong nerve pain in my hands and feet and muscle pain in my legs, arms and shoulders/neck. Am fatigues and can not walk for long because I’m so much in pain. I also have trouble swallowing food and drinks, checked my thyroid and it is okay. But I ended up at the Neurologist because I had a strong pain in my head, only for a few seconds tho.
I really hope that I only have migraines. I asked if I could go to a migraine specialist but was told I need another MRI just to be sure there are no new spots. my last MRI looks very boring (7 lesions with 3 only ms-like) compared to the ones shown here, so hopefully my symptoms are just migraines and I'll get treatment for that soon 🤞
Can non specific white matter lesions heal go away reverse I had mri sadly sober year and had 2 vaccines got covid all around same time year ago I'm on waiting list for nueroligest,
Is it a cause of concern to have benign white matter hyper intensities at a young age (I.e 22?) I was told I have some on the right matter of my frontal lobe that may be cause due to migraines (yet I don’t really get any migraines…). Does it increase the risk of strokes and dementia? And have I or will I become cognitively impaired?
My MRI says “Few non-specific T2W/FLAIR punctate 2 nodular hyperintense foci are seen within bilateral subcortical and deep periventricular cerebral white matter at places showing no obvious restricted diffusion or contrast enhancement. Poorly defined T2W/FLAIR hyperintense signal intensity is seen within bilateral parietooccipital deep periventricular white matter” What it could be?? I am really scared
Thank you so much for your video very informative. Just wondering if you think it is normal and of no concern to have two tiny foci of hyperintense signal in the right corona radiate for a 34-year-old female. Would these be considered UBOs? Thank you
thank you for the video. i have small question and i know you tired of our question but if you can kindly reply i will appriciate it. my Mri showed white matters but 2 doctors refused to diagnise me with MS without more tests. the first doctor said yeah you have them but this could be due to many things. he said probably you have them since the childhood. and the 2 doctor wants me to to the mri with contract. does this sound wise for you since i don't have anything symptoms except headache and dizzeness due to disc in my neck, and the neck mri showed no white matter. thank you so much doctor
I have a lesion in my white matter with weakness on my right side including foot drop. No interest in getting more invasive testing so I have been diagnosed with idiopathic demyelination syndrome. My lesion has a vein running through it. Don’t really care. Not like they can do much to help me. I don’t want the medications . If I’m going to pooch my liver I can think of a better way to do that.
My MRI says “Few non-specific T2W/FLAIR punctate 2 nodular hyperintense foci are seen within bilateral subcortical and deep periventricular cerebral white matter at places showing no obvious restricted diffusion or contrast enhancement. Poorly defined T2W/FLAIR hyperintense signal intensity is seen within bilateral parietooccipital deep periventricular white matter” What it could be?? I am really scared
Generally speaking, small-vessel disease is not enhancing. In some cases, an acute stroke can have enhancement with a distinctive gyral pattern (but generally not for a small-vessel stroke even if it is acute)
i have multiple white lessions, the neurolog suspect it might relate to microvascular and migraine, i do have migraine, difficult to think, constant headache, yet i'm only 26, what could it be : /
I have had migraines since I was 17. I am now 71. I was told for YEARS that the migraines would stop after menopause. Not true. Only if hormones are the trigger. Even now my right side of my head and face is numb. Tells me a migraine has started. At least 5 per week.
Thank you for this very informative video. I'm newly diagnosed and My Mri showed NO lesions but due to symptoms and CSF findings my doc diagnosed MS. Is this common to have no lesions visible? Thank you 🙏
I can't comment on your specific situation, but it is very rare to have no MRI lesions with MS. I do have one patient who has primary progressive MS who did not have any lesions on their initial MRI scan of the brain. Subsequent films did show a small number of lesions typical of MS.
@@DrBrandonBeaber thank you so much! Maybe sometime you could do a video for those of us who have rarities in MS. You are so very kind for answering back and I look forward to your videos every Wednesday. Bless you Dr. B
Huh. My mri shows scattered mild perevintricular, subcortical with no enhancement. I assume its vascular but from the breakdown here shouldn't they not be pereventricular or subcorticale? I may have misinterpreted the discussion in this video tho.
Can MS Be misdiagnosed as Idiopathic intracranial hypertension? I guess what I am asking is can it be possible on mri swelling that is apparent Papilledema and IIH be hiding lesions from being seen due to the swelling/inflammation?
@Dr. Brandon Beaber, have you yourself had an MRI? Curious if doctors find this in their brains too. Im 52 and current mri shows a lesion and several spots all over the brain. i had none back in 2011. mri summary says something about vascular disease and that its more advanced for people my age. I see a neurologist next week to go over results. Is there some way to remove lesions and help stop it?
I have never had an MRI. I can't comment on your specific situation but many people in the general population have nonspecific "unidentified bright objects." They cannot be removed, but it's generally advised to have a good diet/lifestyle and control vascular risk factors to prevent future problems.
My brain MRI report says Few puctuate areas of T2/flair hyperintense signal intensity without diffusion restrictions are seen involving cerebral white matter bright spot of unknown clinical significance.....is it MS??? And in impression column - it says no significant abnormalities is seen in cranial MRI study Please sir reply me
Are radiology readings fairly definitive for microvascular ischemic disease in a younger person? If there are DDx, what kind of doctor can direct or guide? Neurologist?
The two images are actually both form T2 axial FLAIR sequences (without contrast). For the image on the right, the extracerebral images are edited out, and the images are windowed differently. Though the difference in the appearance of the T2 bright white matter lesions is quite apparent.
So if a mri tech says consistent with demyelinating disease dose it mean that's what it is or they just say that because Nero says no he just puts that and is fibromyalgia who's wrong
I have had 3 mri scans ms mentionef on 2nd but then svd, third one after 4 years, show 7mm lesion in peritoneal lobe, periventicular and occipital. Worst part is is prominent extra axial csf? Any ideas what causes that please, thankyou
It is complicated and there is some intuitive aspect to interpreting MRI scans. I do my best to explain it in this video. about 10% of people with MS do not have >/= 1 oligoclonal bands isolated to the cerebrospinal fluid. I have a video explaining this finding here: th-cam.com/video/jyLnT6liw9k/w-d-xo.html
MS lesions are evident without gadolinium contrast dye. active lesions are associated with a breakdown of the normal blood-brain barrier, allowing dye to extravasate into the brain, causing lesions to "enhance" (appear very bright) with contrast dye.
Thank you so much for your quick response!!This is why I was asking.. my dr said he doesn’t know how to read this..and has no idea what this means.. but says it doesn’t say it’s ms? @@DrBrandonBeaber FINDINGS: There are a few small areas of T2/FLAIR signal hyperintensity within the bilateral white matter, nonspecific, but likely reflecting chronic microangiopathic change. There are no findings of acute infarct or acute intracranial hemorrhage. There is no midline shift or other significant mass effect/herniation. The cerebellar tonsils are normal in morphology and location. The globes and other intraorbital structures appear normal. The imaged paranasal sinuses are free of significant disease. The imaged calvarium and skull base are unremarkable. Impression 1. No acute intracranial abnormality. 2. Sequelae of microangiopathic change, within expectations for age.
@@pattischmitz2680 I do not feel comfortable commenting on this. You would have to talk to your own provider. Best of luck to you and hopefully you will get some answers.
@@DrBrandonBeaber thanks for your response.. I totally understand.. but my pcp dr said theres no indication that its ms.. he said the radiologist would have seen ms.. been just sick about it😢
Hi! 42 yr old year female with bradycardia, avid long-distance runner with low BP (average 106/68), strength train 3x week, 90% healthy diet, no alcohol, and no history of migraines but who has white matter disease. As you mentioned, I read it in my report but had no discussion with the doctor. I had an MRI in December of 2021 for concern of MS (weakness/pain/numbness in my left side, prior Epstein Barr diagnosis and low vitamin D). Instead, there was a subependymoma sitting in my 4th ventricle. It was removed via craniotomy in February of 2022, there is a residual tumor on my stem cell but I have no complications. The removal also did not make any of the left-side symptoms disappear. I am afraid that the diagnosis of WMD may be incorrect, and can actually be MS? Is that a valid concern?
For my research, I am looking for dataset of vascular lesions of Brain MRI images. But I could not find any suitable data. How can I get this images to test with AI for detecting vascular lesions in different sizes
In MRI what does it mean small non specific areas of t2 flair hyperintensity is noted within the deep white matter of the left frontal lobe and right parieto occipital lobe
Can the legions in vascular be reversed? I had an mri with some small white legions on the bilateral frontal lobes. Not sure why they are there, the neurologist didn't seem concerned.
Typically, "unidentified bright objects" would not be reversible. They would be present on follow up MRI scans. Multiple sclerosis plaques can shrink or disappear if they are active at the time of the initial scan.
Hi dear doctor، Im iranian woman and live in Iran،I suspect ms one doctor tells me that I have ms and another Says no، could I email you my result to determine if I have ms or not ?
Dr. Brandon i also want to ask how do neuros treat central disabling vertigo and vertigo that was a result of long COVID. What treatments can control migraines and vertigo for people who dont want antidepressants.
If the vertigo is related to migraine, it may improve with migraine treatment. You may appreciate this video on migraine treatments: th-cam.com/video/SOH3sC-V-QE/w-d-xo.html
I would like to add my lower back scan up for research. Ive had an lower back injury, fractured cardialage due to heavy lifting as an 28 year old. A couple years back. Yet the radioligist woman told me I had brain fluids of an 14 year old in that scan as if I am still growing. Id like to add that those btainfluids are a mental meditation state yet I preclared it was stress or something because I was scared being told I might have a delusion over paranormal activities or w/e. Luckely I didnt need an operation for the back and got feeling back after six weeks in the numb leg spots. Also the pain is alot less only after bending over with cleaning or lifting. Didnt even need morfine whilst others need to come back for their first shot after 6 weeks. Catharina hospital Ehv.
Can you please tell me when the definitive treatment of ms disease will come out? what people are wondering is when will it be possible to stop ms and repair myelin
it's already here..alemtuzumab and hsct have put people into long term remission with normal .2 brain atrophy. Something that Ocrevus and Tysabri can't really do. Problem is HSCT is impossible to get in u.s. and Alemtuzumab is rarely used in u.s.
What magnetic field are these scans? Would a higher field 7T give you a better diagnosis? I have seen a Siemens 7T promotion video diagnosing a lesion on a girl who keeps getting seizures before going into the 7T mri. The high field mri detected a lesion in her brain and operated and she is now living seizure free.
There is evidence that a 7T MRI is better at seeing small lesions, though they are not readily commercially available. The films in this video are 1.5T/3T scans.
@@DrBrandonBeaber The 7T is just too expensive to buy it for most hospitals. I know they have been commercially available for nearly 8 years now as I worked on the first one Siemens sold commercially.
Hi, I had the same results in may last year , the Did an orbit Mri in December and showed that what I have is a pituitary adenoma . I don’t know is it’s correlated, I forgot to ask the neurologist because I got scared with the adenoma in my brain
I was told that “non-doecific” or “nonspecific” are good terms to see in a report. and that they indicate the sort of lesions that don’t alarm my doctor.
To my knowledge, ADHD and autism and not associated with leukoarisosis or demyelinating lesions, though symptoms of multiple sclerosis can sometimes mimic ADHD. NF1 is associated with various abnormalities on brain MRI which are different from what I am showing here.
Thanks for the suggestion. I may do this at a later time. I do have a single video on NMO where I mention this briefly: th-cam.com/video/xBCke5TsDGA/w-d-xo.html
@@DrBrandonBeaber thank you, or about MOG in general, there is not a lot of information out there as the antibody was only discovered about 5 years ago, but I can say, one thing I learned is if you are treated with an MS immune modulator and you have MOG or NMO you quickly clinically deteriorate. Any of your insights and opinions would be very helpful for some of us I think.
@@jessicaisnetto9935 For NMO, certain MS disease modifying therapies like glatiramer acetate and interferon beta are known to be ineffective. Many disease modifying therapies in MS such as rituximab are also effective in NMO.
Does MS cause hearing loss?? i have sudden hearing loss on left ear, nearly 80% hearing loss, when taking MRI white matter lesions present in my brain, doctor diagnosed it as MS... But i don't have any other symptoms except hearing loss....
My mri impression small vessel ischemia. D/D: Ms My history psychological problem....GAD Now problem numbness arm hand feet or imbalance Saliva eating.. ????
Sir is it possible no lesions on brain as well as spine mri and my symptoms are worsening day by day . My main symptom is weakness in legs. Plzz tell sir my age is only 24 and m very confused
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This was very informative! I was diagnosed with Cadasil which sometimes is misdiagnosed as ms. I am grateful to the radiologist who read my MRI and interpreted my results. He stated to rule out Cadasil of which my neurologist had never heard of. Her plan was to go down the MS road because of the extensive lesions. (My MRI looked like the 90 year old woman’s…I was 58 at the time!). I did a google search of Cadasil and new that’s what I had because of my family history of early deaths of strokes and “ms”. A DNA blood test confirmed it. Unfortunately there is no treatment or cure for Cadasil…but a good sense of humor goes a long way 😉
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For anyone interested, you can look up this study.
A team of international researchers has found that the Tsimane indigenous people experience less brain atrophy than their American and European peers.
The decrease in their brain volumes with age is 70% slower than in Western populations. Accelerated brain volume loss can be a sign of dementia.
SEVENTY percent slower.
USC Leonard Davis School of Gerontology
My MRI is so crazy scary. I've had MS for almost 30 years (EDSS 6.5). I have mostly periventricular lesions, Dawson's fingers, and white picket fence lesions, plus lesions throughout the cervical/thoracic spine. But the scariest part is the massive amount of brain atrophy. I'm 51 but my brain looks about 80. You don't need to be a neurologist/radiologist to see my brain and say "whoa". I am amazed I am not bedridden.
Wish u continued mobility
@@colleensmith3374 Thank u and God bless
Hi Andrew just wondering did you had severe headaches btw lasting btw 1 to 2 months. They told I had some white matter lesions. And I have tension headaches n sometimes really bad anxiety that last for 1 month. It’s scary I have started feeling super depressed n just praying to god.
God's good ✨
For anyone interested, you can look up this study.
A team of international researchers has found that the Tsimane indigenous people experience less brain atrophy than their American and European peers.
The decrease in their brain volumes with age is 70% slower than in Western populations. Accelerated brain volume loss can be a sign of dementia.
SEVENTY percent slower.
USC Leonard Davis School of Gerontology
I got a diagnosis of CIS from a neurologist after a bout of symptoms and an MRI showing 3 small lesions. He wanted to see me again in 3 months but he stopped practicing.
I had to go to other neurologists and they all said my MRI didn't show Ms and that a lot of people have lesions. I also got a bout of optic neuritis during this time but no diagnosis. They kind of became dismissive of the eye issue but sente for new MRIs. They said I have small ones but some of my symptoms could even be from having a bad neck. So on their request I went to a neurosurgeon to look at my MRIS. He brought in a colleague to look as well and they went over the whole ordeal. They looked at multiple slices of my MRI just like in this video. They told me that I probably have MS and everything points to it and referred me to an MS specialist. The Specialist spent an hour with me doing a physical and looking at my MRI reports. She gave me a diagnosis of RRMS and I'm currently on Tecfidera. I remember wanting to go back and scream at the other Neurologists for me wasting a year of my life.
I was advised to find an MS support group andvI quickly realized soooo many people go thru hell trying to get a diagnosis. One person waited 9 years
I’m struggling. I have small lesions. No more than 5. And the symptoms are awful. But the dr is so dismissive. I’m currently looking for a new doctor
Took me 4 years to get diagnosed, the "top" neurologist in the country at barrows neurological Institute...I saw 5 different neuros, 1st said it's MS, second specialist said no no the legions are caused by your migrains, migrain specialist said oh no, this is MS, 3rd neuro said inconclusive, 4th neuro finally did lumbar puncture, found greater than 7 mismatched o-bands but wanted another specialist opinion and so the 5th neurologist finally gave the verdict....it's ms. Duh. Lol long road of ups and downs...hang in there and keep getting multiple opinions! ❤ much love and good luck.
@@ellymay7238just always remember- your body is constantly trying to repair itself, regeneration of the myelin sheath is possible at any stage. A few requirements though: nerves need many vitamins like D, B1,3,6,9,12, Mg, iron, copper, zinc, and A/E. HEALTHY FOOD FIRST, every meal.
Need to eliminate the toxins like smoking or drinking or added sugars and ultra processed food products. Quality sleep and reduce stress.
Thank you so much! I feel like I can finally sleep better tonight. I saw some very scary scans recently, but they don't look like MS according to your video. We see a cardiologist and neurologist soon for their professional opinions, but I feel like I can relax some until those appointments now. Thank you again for such concise information!
Best of luck to you.
@@DrBrandonBeaber His MRI and follow up CT were clean!
@@jeannette9what were your symptoms like and what do they think you have?
Brilliant video Dr. Beaber! So helpful to see the images and have the explanations. Thanks!
I'm glad you liked it Vicky.
I love it when you say being a radiologist is easier than it looks! it is definitely not easier than being a neurologist, who always has an easy diagnosis for every one. It is psychological! Poor patients who are labeled psychopath while they have serious neurologic disorders!
Good video though!
This is an excellent video Dr Beabs, “ Self diagnose at your own ⚠️ risk” needs to be on a T-Shirt.
#Sharingiscaring
Heavy on the medical lingo
Haha. Maybe I'll get this T-Shirt.
@@DrBrandonBeaber it HAS to be done!
Can you please detail why self diagnosis is detrimental to the patient, to other patients & to the medical professionals? (not specific to MS but for disorders in general) @@DrBrandonBeaber
Excellent content Dr Beaber!Thanks so much for these videos! You present things in an easy to understand manner & that helps a great deal!
Was falsely diagnosed with MS. I went numb from the neck down
A tingly numb like when your leg falls asleep
I could still walk and move around I just had to watch my feet while walking. I couldn’t type any more. I made it through college and worked full time
It was very difficult
My home doctor said I was stressed out and to listen to my body Eat what it tells me to eat
I went to a neurologist
Had mri had white blotches all over brain
All the specialists said I had MS
I couldn’t afford medication so 2 years later still numb from neck down I seen my home doctor again
He said quit stressing. Don’t stress about anything no matter what and eat what my body craved
I did just that and within months it went away
I quit stressing and ate a lot of friut
It came back once a few years later and was just my leg and didn’t last but a few weeks and it’s been 30 years since then and never happened again
Thanks for sharing.
Hey harry did you also had headaches every day for 1-2months. In my first episode I had symptoms of paralyzed arms n legs but then went away. Did you sleep normal hours n what did you eat.
Thank you for sharing your experience... Interesting to see how much people over read these scans
Indeed. Nice channel by the way.
Thank you!
Thank you for great informative video, always wished I could understand my MRI scans myslef at least to some extent. Could it theoretically happen that a radiologist mistakes a new MRI lesion for a "benign" one in patient with MS?
For future video recommendation, I'd like to see explained comparison of SC versus IV administration of anti CD20 DMT (I remember there was some new study on this topic). I'm currently in clinical trial for SC Ocrelizumab, so bit biased:)
This is SO interesting!! Thank you for sharing these findings!
Could you make a video on nervous system hyperexcitability disorders (benign fascination syndrome, cramp fascination syndrome, isaacs syndrome and morvans syndrome)? As youtube's resident expert on neurological autoimmune diseases I think you would be uniquely qualified to give an interesting perspective. There isn't a ton of good quality information on them and there's almost no information on youtube from a neurologist's perspective.
Very helpful, but can you possibly give a more elemental basic “101” of how to read MRI’s and even possibly CT scans? Especially for older docs like me who graduated before the advent of MRI’s 😭😭
This is so fascinating! Have you read Dr. Bill Code's book _Solving the Brain Puzzle?_ As a doctor who has also had MS for decades, through his research he has come to believe that MS is a vascular disease, not primarily an autoimmune condition. I find that so interesting because my MRIs most often look far more like the vascular ones you showed here than the MS ones. Maybe there is a connection?
I have not read the book, but there is a theory proposed by Dr. Paulo Zamboni that MS is caused by venous insufficiency. My video on this here: th-cam.com/video/sqoK9BkI6g0/w-d-xo.html There is actually extremely strong evidence that MS is largely immune mediated. I may do a video on this topic at some point.
@@DrBrandonBeaber thank you for the reply. Yes, Dr. Code had the CCSVI liberation therapy twice, and I think that's what started his investigation, though not in exactly the same direction as Dr. Zamboni took. Obviously venoplasty is not a final solution since the procedure was not ever investigated or developed well enough to provide lasting improvement. But it's certainly an interesting direction that I think needs a lot more research still. I agree that there must be some kind of autoimmune component too, as we know how things like infections (UTI, for example) can have such an impact on relapses, etc.
I have an enlarged ventricle in the brain that is highly suspected of being hydrocephalus, with surgery happening soon. Since more than four years ago I've been getting random hearing "attacks", and this all started in February 2020 with random bouts of dizziness that lasted a few minutes then subsided, but the bouts became much more frequent and happened several times a day, this lasted about a month, then seemed to stop. Got an MRI and it turned out normal. Then in June 2020 had a hearing attack and went to a doctor at emergency but they didn't treat it that time. Got another MRI in 2021 after the hearing in my right ear went funny for about 6 weeks in December 2020 (then recovered around 90%, I did take lots of steroids that time, unlike the first time, even though the first episode recovered). I kept going through "attack" after "attack" and eventually treating it with steroids in some fashion. Ultimately I am still left with some residual fullness on the right side, and some bizarre tinnitus along with occasional nausea and ongoing balance problems if I turn my head too quickly. I suspect it could be related to the hydrocephalus or the enlarged ventricle in my brain. 11 hearing "attacks" since June 2020, with unilateral tinnitus often presenting either at the onset or shortly after the "attack". Is it possible that these random "attacks" could be caused by this excess cerebrospinal fluid enlarging one of my ventricles? My ENT suspects Menieres, since I did have random episodes of dizziness and balance problems that came and went either before or after the hearing attacks, sometimes days or weeks before or after. I am still at a loss as to what is going on, and if you could enlighten me I'd be most appreciative. I'm surprised I've made it this far without going completely insane.
Dr. Beaber, an interesting study on the benefits of CAR T-cell therapy for lupus has been conducted by Friedrich Alexander University. While I'm sure it is very early days to speak confidently, there is speculation that the results may show promise for future potential for other autoimmune diseases like MS. I wonder if you would be able to do a video on this research and it's possibly implications for MS therapies. Additionally, my understanding is that MS is not a immune cell-specific autoimmune disease, on that no one specific class of immune cells has been identified as being responsible for MS activity. Would this be a constraints for therapies like CAR T-cell therapy or can it work more generally like the way HSCT stem cell therapy works for MS?
Dr Beaber great information. Question: I am 50 yrs old with the only symptom being hypertension. I got an MRI and everything was normal BUT there was a sentence that says ""Subtle periventricular area of abnormal signal is appreciated. The possibility of white matter changes has to be considered". What does this mean? Can this be MS or White Matter Disease, etc? I feel just fine with no symptoms. I just want to know what does this sentence on MRI means?
I have a few small white matter spots on my brain but have been told it’s from migraines. Yet I have so many MS symptoms. It’s a constant battle with my own body and me also thinking my doctors are reading my scans wrong.
I have same issues I have white matte in my brain mri few spots I’m 43yr old the doctor said it’s normal , I did have dizziness symptoms vision issues can’t focus , I’m not put on any medicine ,I was alcoholic for 10yr maybe that’s why I got these spots my blood pressure was high those days now I haven’t drink in 1yr my blood pressure is normal I’m not in med it was high because of alcohol and have heart issues because of alcohol my heart hey skip beats and pacs , I enjoy those 10yr alcohol is something I was unhappy without it I was very happy with life when I was drinking I’m not regret we going to die one day I hope I get to live to see my 50 haha 😂
@@soldier2152 do you get migraines? I just went to see a balance/dizziness specialist & with every test I have had done & let me tell u, I’ve had 12 MRI’s, she said the only thing that makes sense is I have vestibular migraines with dizziness. Kinda hard to believe bc my dizziness is 24/7. I was put on Nurtec for preventative migraines and have been on that for 3 months. No help at all. So frustrating.
My Neurologist told me my two spots are scar tissue from demyelination, but I am so scared that the official report from the radiologist will say it’s just migraine because I had a strong pain for a few seconds and that’s why I ended up in the MRI machine. I do however have all the MS symptoms and they checked my nerves in arm/hands and legs/feet and they were okay. I’m 26 and usually don’t have migraines, but numbness, tingling, nerve pain, fatigue, can’t swallow and choke on food and water, can’t walk for long because all my muscles in my body hurt and I constantly feel sore, vision problems that come and go. Like… no one can explain it….
@@KikisStudyCorner sorry you’re going through all that. It’s not fun. I’m 2 years in & still have no answers for my issues. I hope you find someone that will be able to help you soon. Crazy how we can have so many symptoms yet nothing shows up & they have no idea what’s going on with us.
Ugh me too. So desperate for a diagnosis in the hope of treatment and improvement or at least less decline
Dr very much appreciate your expertise & explanation of MRI’s
:)
@@DrBrandonBeabercould I send you my MRI for review? Kind regards
@@annbass1535 Unfortunately I cannot help you personally.
Dr.B great info as always. I am very impressed that you keep coming up with valuable MS information videos. Do think MRI’s showing lesions in both the spine and the brain are more apt to be a MS? That’s how I was diagnosed and My neurologist send that I did not need a spinal tap to confirm MS.
it's multiple so if you have brain and spine you have it.
Dr B another great episode of your show !! great information Do lesions themselves cause ms or ms like symptoms ? If A person has lesions caused by migraines could they have difficulty walking and be did with ms ?
MS lesions can cause symptoms or can be asymptomatic. Typically, "unidentified bright objects" associated with migraine headaches are not associated with specific symptoms.
I know it's maybe impossible to answer but how much worse is the prognosis with cervical lesions generally contra only brain lesions? And does having one lesion increase the chance of more lesions forming nearby? I'm aware that placement and size matters more than amount but there must be some ballpark figure. Thank you for everything BB!
Amazing video explanation, Dr. Beaber. Why can someone, confirmed with MS from Cedar Sinai team, have many lesions (30+ with Dawson fingers) still be fully functional with a 1 EDSS?
T2 brightness on MRI says little about the function of the tissue. Some people have extensive lesions and extensive remyelination ("shadow plaques") on MRI. Disability is more correlated with T1 "black holes" and atrophy than T2 bright lesions.
@@DrBrandonBeaber Appreciate all your informational videos! On your silent MS symptoms video, there are two unique and rare visual symptoms that MS seems to cause which is Oscilopsia and retinal ganglion cell loss. Are there any DMTs or HSCT that halts or helps with those?
grate video i now see why nce my lisons grew to touch my corpus colosum did i get my ms diagnosis best decoding ms lisons video I've found thanks
I just got a cervicle mri and saw lots of tiny white dots. I’m terrified and now have to wake a week for results
Dear Dr, I was wondering why MS has the reputation of being such a difficult condition to diagnose. Since a brain MRI can basically confirm or rule out MS, what exactly can make the condition so hard to diagnose ? I know you mostly gave an answer in the video while talking about lesions and other diseases, but still.
Once again, thank you very much for your time !
The diagnostic criteria are quite complicated and not based solely on MRI explained in this video: th-cam.com/video/Ixns85V95-Y/w-d-xo.html Although most people with MS have an MRI scan of the brain highly consistent with the disease, there are exceptions.
Thank you very much for your explanation always amazing and to the point
awesome, pls more mri. thx! 👍
Dr. Beaber- thank you for this video. I was still curious- what if you have small foci of T2 hyperintensity seen in the periventricular and subcortical white matter? No history of migraines, or vascular disease indications- in a 36 year old female (first noted in a 33 year old female) with a history of tremors, falling, and other symptoms indicating that person is experiencing neurological issues? I understand that non-specific WML are common, but can these lesions be an early sign of MS? Would it be rare for them to exist but not progress in 3 years?
There would be way to comment on this without seeing the films. "unidentified bright objects" are not a precursor to MS.
What is means in a MRI scaretted t2 hyperintense foci within cerebral white matter are nonspecific? And in the right frontal there are a couple subcortical foci of increased flair signal non specific for patients of this age? Please thank you.
I can't comment on this. The report from the radiologist can be ambiguous in many cases.
I was diagnosed with significant preventricular and deep matter. My MRI is bad like my whole brain. I'm 55 and very scared. I don't have high blood pressure. I don't have sugar diabetes. My cholesterol is good. I don't smoke. I got a lot a lot of migraines. I don't know what to expect 😢
Migraines can cause legions. I’m like you. Low bp, cholesterol, body weight and not diabetic. They told me it was small vessel eschimia but I’m not a candidate for cardiovascular diseases. I do get silent migraines (vestibular migraines) and typical migraines.
@@Tad-For-Global-PeaceAny symptoms
i would like to take a survey..
how meny of you had stress or depression before they were diagnosed with ms ?
Almost 90% people on this planet have "stress and depression " lol...just matters to what degree.
No stress above life. We all deal with stress of one type of another.
They said all my cervical lesions are typical of MS but not all my brain lesions are typical of MS. So I have MS lesions and UBO lesions?
I got done all that I got all that stuff that you mentioning because they've been treating me since I was in Florida so it's been a long time they been treating me since Florida
I'm 38 diagnosed at 35 and have lesions in spine & brain but always felt I have a vascular issue as I wake up with numb hands then goes away after I lift them up to drain the blood. Just confirmed I do have bilateral thoracic outlet syndrome. So is it possible that vascular could cause anything in spine...or are spine lesions strictly MS? Thanks so much great video. 👍
I can't comment on your specific situation, but we do not see "unidentified bright objects" in the spine. it is possible to have injury to the spine due to vascular problems such as a stroke, but these lesions are generally not typical of multiple sclerosis.
@@DrBrandonBeaber thank you so much for your response :)
I apso have numb hand or leg after I wake up every now and then(not often). I guess this is a ms thing. My ms is benign.
Do u have ms @@arr2820
My lesions look like the not ms lesions in this video but my symptoms present like ms and my mri say atypical MS and I just got a possible diagnosis of ON and waiting to see a neuro ophthalmologist to confirm. "10 years of we don't know. " to this.
Why do radiologist read the MRI before it goes to the neurologist?
Radiologists are very good at interpreting medical imaging and help us to see things we might otherwise overlook. For example, one of my patients was incidentally found to have a nasopharyngeal carcinoma on an MRI scan of the brain I almost certainly would have missed.
@@DrBrandonBeaberMy Neurologist looked at the MRI with me together before we had the official report and he pointed out two round spots on each side and first said that these are scar tissue, when I asked later again what exactly these spots are he said it’s demyelination, but before he can give me medicine he has to wait for the official report, so we know if there are more of them or not. How does he know that it’s demyelination and not like vascular/white matter disease? A migraine attack? How does one see the difference? I’m 26 and have numbness, tingling and strong nerve pain in my hands and feet and muscle pain in my legs, arms and shoulders/neck. Am fatigues and can not walk for long because I’m so much in pain. I also have trouble swallowing food and drinks, checked my thyroid and it is okay. But I ended up at the Neurologist because I had a strong pain in my head, only for a few seconds tho.
I really hope that I only have migraines. I asked if I could go to a migraine specialist but was told I need another MRI just to be sure there are no new spots.
my last MRI looks very boring (7 lesions with 3 only ms-like) compared to the ones shown here, so hopefully my symptoms are just migraines and I'll get treatment for that soon 🤞
Best of luck to you.
@@DrBrandonBeaber thank you 🥲💖
Thank you so much I have learnt so much? Can you please look at my MRI? It’s so hard to find a good Dr like you
Thank-you ! As your suggestion to watch this video, it was very interesting & I learned quite a bit ! Much Appreciated : )
Can non specific white matter lesions heal go away reverse I had mri sadly sober year and had 2 vaccines got covid all around same time year ago I'm on waiting list for nueroligest,
Is it a cause of concern to have benign white matter hyper intensities at a young age (I.e 22?) I was told I have some on the right matter of my frontal lobe that may be cause due to migraines (yet I don’t really get any migraines…). Does it increase the risk of strokes and dementia? And have I or will I become cognitively impaired?
Hi! I have the same and I’m also 22. Have you got any answers yet?
Unfortunately not, I hope someone here may be able to shed some light on our concerns.
My MRI says “Few non-specific T2W/FLAIR punctate 2 nodular hyperintense foci are seen within bilateral subcortical and deep periventricular cerebral white matter at places showing no obvious restricted diffusion or contrast enhancement. Poorly defined T2W/FLAIR hyperintense signal intensity is seen within bilateral parietooccipital deep periventricular white matter”
What it could be??
I am really scared
I've heard ozone ear insufflation can go after these problems, with great success .
Thank you so much for your video very informative. Just wondering if you think it is normal and of no concern to have two tiny foci of hyperintense signal in the right corona radiate for a 34-year-old female. Would these be considered UBOs? Thank you
thank you for the video. i have small question and i know you tired of our question but if you can kindly reply i will appriciate it. my Mri showed white matters but 2 doctors refused to diagnise me with MS without more tests. the first doctor said yeah you have them but this could be due to many things. he said probably you have them since the childhood. and the 2 doctor wants me to to the mri with contract. does this sound wise for you since i don't have anything symptoms except headache and dizzeness due to disc in my neck, and the neck mri showed no white matter. thank you so much doctor
I can't comment on your specific situation or give medical advice here.
I have a lesion in my white matter with weakness on my right side including foot drop. No interest in getting more invasive testing so I have been diagnosed with idiopathic demyelination syndrome. My lesion has a vein running through it. Don’t really care. Not like they can do much to help me. I don’t want the medications . If I’m going to pooch my liver I can think of a better way to do that.
"patchy discrete foci of t2, flair hyperintense signals in the bilateral frontal deep white matter" - what does this mean? 😢 Thank you.
Did you ever find out? I have the exact same wording on my results
Thanx for the info 👍🏾
My MRI says “Few non-specific T2W/FLAIR punctate 2 nodular hyperintense foci are seen within bilateral subcortical and deep periventricular cerebral white matter at places showing no obvious restricted diffusion or contrast enhancement. Poorly defined T2W/FLAIR hyperintense signal intensity is seen within bilateral parietooccipital deep periventricular white matter”
What it could be??
I am really scared
Can migraines cause a small little
White dot to be periventricular?
I have lesions in the subcortical and the periventricular area and symptoms of MS…does that mean I have it?
Can small vessel disease have enhanced lesions
Generally speaking, small-vessel disease is not enhancing. In some cases, an acute stroke can have enhancement with a distinctive gyral pattern (but generally not for a small-vessel stroke even if it is acute)
i have multiple white lessions, the neurolog suspect it might relate to microvascular and migraine, i do have migraine, difficult to think, constant headache, yet i'm only 26, what could it be : /
I have had migraines since I was 17. I am now 71. I was told for YEARS that the migraines would stop after menopause. Not true. Only if hormones are the trigger. Even now my right side of my head and face is numb. Tells me a migraine has started. At least 5 per week.
My left earloab goes kmumb now Getting MrI this week
I don't know what where your syptoms
What is causes for 2 tiny white matter
The cause of "unidentified bright objects" is believed to be vascular disease
Dear Doctor - could I send you my MRI for review?
What are the actual causes of these lesions.
Ms is an autoimmune disease
Thank you for this very informative video. I'm newly diagnosed and My Mri showed NO lesions but due to symptoms and CSF findings my doc diagnosed MS. Is this common to have no lesions visible? Thank you 🙏
I can't comment on your specific situation, but it is very rare to have no MRI lesions with MS. I do have one patient who has primary progressive MS who did not have any lesions on their initial MRI scan of the brain. Subsequent films did show a small number of lesions typical of MS.
@@DrBrandonBeaber thank you so much! Maybe sometime you could do a video for those of us who have rarities in MS. You are so very kind for answering back and I look forward to your videos every Wednesday. Bless you Dr. B
I was told LYMES DISEASE can mimic MS?
It can in some cases. I have a video addressing this: th-cam.com/video/Ak04PIcxbTg/w-d-xo.html
Huh. My mri shows scattered mild perevintricular, subcortical with no enhancement. I assume its vascular but from the breakdown here shouldn't they not be pereventricular or subcorticale? I may have misinterpreted the discussion in this video tho.
Can MS Be misdiagnosed as Idiopathic intracranial hypertension? I guess what I am asking is can it be possible on mri swelling that is apparent Papilledema and IIH be hiding lesions from being seen due to the swelling/inflammation?
@Dr. Brandon Beaber, have you yourself had an MRI? Curious if doctors find this in their brains too. Im 52 and current mri shows a lesion and several spots all over the brain. i had none back in 2011. mri summary says something about vascular disease and that its more advanced for people my age. I see a neurologist next week to go over results. Is there some way to remove lesions and help stop it?
I have never had an MRI. I can't comment on your specific situation but many people in the general population have nonspecific "unidentified bright objects." They cannot be removed, but it's generally advised to have a good diet/lifestyle and control vascular risk factors to prevent future problems.
Do 10mm lesions will cure by antibiotics?
Thankyou so much for the info doctor.
I have breast cancer and was told I have a new lesion in corpus collum, could this be a spread of cancer, or is it just my ms flaring up?
My brain MRI report says Few puctuate areas of T2/flair hyperintense signal intensity without diffusion restrictions are seen involving cerebral white matter bright spot of unknown clinical significance.....is it MS???
And in impression column - it says no significant abnormalities is seen in cranial MRI study
Please sir reply me
Reminds my why we not use MRI as the sole diagnostic tool here in Europe...
Are radiology readings fairly definitive for microvascular ischemic disease in a younger person? If there are DDx, what kind of doctor can direct or guide? Neurologist?
For a doctor to help interpret the significance of white matter lesions on MRI, a neurologist is the place to go.
To be ms or not to be ms that is the question
Surely these two in the thumbnail are not comparable. Isn't one with contrast and one without?
The two images are actually both form T2 axial FLAIR sequences (without contrast). For the image on the right, the extracerebral images are edited out, and the images are windowed differently. Though the difference in the appearance of the T2 bright white matter lesions is quite apparent.
Can you have both of these? I have MS and lots of heart problems Now I'm curious, lol!
Yes. You can definitely have both multiple lesions and UBOs.
@@DrBrandonBeaber thank you!!
@@msmartian i also have white matter and heart problem. my echo is fine but i have heart palpitation. thanx for reply
So if a mri tech says consistent with demyelinating disease dose it mean that's what it is or they just say that because Nero says no he just puts that and is fibromyalgia who's wrong
I have had 3 mri scans ms mentionef on 2nd but then svd, third one after 4 years, show 7mm lesion in peritoneal lobe, periventicular and occipital. Worst part is is prominent extra axial csf? Any ideas what causes that please, thankyou
I lost my vision and all thought process
3 times. I was a blank.!!!!!
What was that.??????
Can Ms lesions sometimes be punctate
Dr. Brandon how do neuros differentiate between MS lesions and migraines? Is it the shape size location and are bands a 100 percent MS?
It is complicated and there is some intuitive aspect to interpreting MRI scans. I do my best to explain it in this video. about 10% of people with MS do not have >/= 1 oligoclonal bands isolated to the cerebrospinal fluid. I have a video explaining this finding here: th-cam.com/video/jyLnT6liw9k/w-d-xo.html
Does a regular mri show ms.. or do you need one with contrast and a spinal? Thank you!!
MS lesions are evident without gadolinium contrast dye. active lesions are associated with a breakdown of the normal blood-brain barrier, allowing dye to extravasate into the brain, causing lesions to "enhance" (appear very bright) with contrast dye.
Thank you so much for your quick response!!This is why I was asking.. my dr said he doesn’t know how to read this..and has no idea what this means.. but says it doesn’t say it’s ms? @@DrBrandonBeaber FINDINGS: There are a few small areas of T2/FLAIR signal hyperintensity within the bilateral white matter, nonspecific, but likely reflecting chronic microangiopathic change.
There are no findings of acute infarct or acute intracranial hemorrhage. There is no midline shift or other significant mass effect/herniation. The cerebellar tonsils are normal in morphology and location. The globes and other intraorbital structures appear normal. The imaged paranasal sinuses are free of significant disease. The imaged calvarium and skull base are unremarkable.
Impression
1. No acute intracranial abnormality. 2.
Sequelae of microangiopathic change, within expectations for age.
I know you can t diagnose me.. but is this a generic report? Thanks again!!!
@@pattischmitz2680 I do not feel comfortable commenting on this. You would have to talk to your own provider. Best of luck to you and hopefully you will get some answers.
@@DrBrandonBeaber thanks for your response.. I totally understand.. but my pcp dr said theres no indication that its ms.. he said the radiologist would have seen ms.. been just sick about it😢
Hi! 42 yr old year female with bradycardia, avid long-distance runner with low BP (average 106/68), strength train 3x week, 90% healthy diet, no alcohol, and no history of migraines but who has white matter disease. As you mentioned, I read it in my report but had no discussion with the doctor. I had an MRI in December of 2021 for concern of MS (weakness/pain/numbness in my left side, prior Epstein Barr diagnosis and low vitamin D). Instead, there was a subependymoma sitting in my 4th ventricle. It was removed via craniotomy in February of 2022, there is a residual tumor on my stem cell but I have no complications. The removal also did not make any of the left-side symptoms disappear. I am afraid that the diagnosis of WMD may be incorrect, and can actually be MS? Is that a valid concern?
I cannot comment on your specific situation, but I wish you good luck.
For my research, I am looking for dataset of vascular lesions of Brain MRI images. But I could not find any suitable data. How can I get this images to test with AI for detecting vascular lesions in different sizes
You would probably have to work with an institution/university. These images are from scientific publications.
Thanks doctor
In MRI what does it mean small non specific areas of t2 flair hyperintensity is noted within the deep white matter of the left frontal lobe and right parieto occipital lobe
I think the video makes the point that you would have to discuss this with an experienced provider who has personally reviewed the films.
Can the legions in vascular be reversed? I had an mri with some small white legions on the bilateral frontal lobes. Not sure why they are there, the neurologist didn't seem concerned.
Typically, "unidentified bright objects" would not be reversible. They would be present on follow up MRI scans. Multiple sclerosis plaques can shrink or disappear if they are active at the time of the initial scan.
@@DrBrandonBeaber that is depressing. I'm only 42
Hi dear doctor، Im iranian woman and live in Iran،I suspect ms one doctor tells me that I have ms and another Says no، could I email you my result to determine if I have ms or not ?
Dr. Brandon i also want to ask how do neuros treat central disabling vertigo and vertigo that was a result of long COVID. What treatments can control migraines and vertigo for people who dont want antidepressants.
If the vertigo is related to migraine, it may improve with migraine treatment. You may appreciate this video on migraine treatments: th-cam.com/video/SOH3sC-V-QE/w-d-xo.html
@@DrBrandonBeaber thank u will check out the vid..but if the vertigo is from lesions or MS itself does it have a treatment from a neuro directly?
I would like to add my lower back scan up for research. Ive had an lower back injury, fractured cardialage due to heavy lifting as an 28 year old. A couple years back. Yet the radioligist woman told me I had brain fluids of an 14 year old in that scan as if I am still growing. Id like to add that those btainfluids are a mental meditation state yet I preclared it was stress or something because I was scared being told I might have a delusion over paranormal activities or w/e. Luckely I didnt need an operation for the back and got feeling back after six weeks in the numb leg spots. Also the pain is alot less only after bending over with cleaning or lifting. Didnt even need morfine whilst others need to come back for their first shot after 6 weeks. Catharina hospital Ehv.
I wish any of my neurologists watched this video.
Can you please tell me when the definitive treatment of ms disease will come out? what people are wondering is when will it be possible to stop ms and repair myelin
It is impossible to answer this question
it's already here..alemtuzumab and hsct have put people into long term remission with normal .2 brain atrophy.
Something that Ocrevus and Tysabri can't
really do.
Problem is HSCT is impossible to get in u.s.
and Alemtuzumab is rarely used in u.s.
@@barbaradascalos4411 you never talked about alemtuzumab before. All you said is hsct and hope for ebv vaccine.
hsct is far better...more effective less side fx
see "hsct vs. lemtrada ms news today"
@@barbaradascalos4411 there is new promising treatment with T cell therapy as well.
Can you review the brain MRI if sent to you please sir ?
I unfortunately would not be able to help you personally.
What magnetic field are these scans? Would a higher field 7T give you a better diagnosis? I have seen a Siemens 7T promotion video diagnosing a lesion on a girl who keeps getting seizures before going into the 7T mri. The high field mri detected a lesion in her brain and operated and she is now living seizure free.
There is evidence that a 7T MRI is better at seeing small lesions, though they are not readily commercially available. The films in this video are 1.5T/3T scans.
@@DrBrandonBeaber The 7T is just too expensive to buy it for most hospitals. I know they have been commercially available for nearly 8 years now as I worked on the first one Siemens sold commercially.
Why would myasthenia gravis have these white spots?
Thank you for your video
Hello Dr. Beaber -- what does " Few discrete non-doecific FLAIR Hyperintensities noted in the subcortical white matter" mean ?
Thank you.
Hi, I had the same results in may last year , the Did an orbit Mri in December and showed that what I have is a pituitary adenoma . I don’t know is it’s correlated, I forgot to ask the neurologist because I got scared with the adenoma in my brain
I was told that “non-doecific” or “nonspecific” are good terms to see in a report. and that they indicate the sort of lesions that don’t alarm my doctor.
What about NF1, Adhd, autism have these lesions
To my knowledge, ADHD and autism and not associated with leukoarisosis or demyelinating lesions, though symptoms of multiple sclerosis can sometimes mimic ADHD. NF1 is associated with various abnormalities on brain MRI which are different from what I am showing here.
Can you do a video about MOG lesions?
Thanks for the suggestion. I may do this at a later time. I do have a single video on NMO where I mention this briefly: th-cam.com/video/xBCke5TsDGA/w-d-xo.html
@@DrBrandonBeaber thank you, or about MOG in general, there is not a lot of information out there as the antibody was only discovered about 5 years ago, but I can say, one thing I learned is if you are treated with an MS immune modulator and you have MOG or NMO you quickly clinically deteriorate. Any of your insights and opinions would be very helpful for some of us I think.
@@jessicaisnetto9935 For NMO, certain MS disease modifying therapies like glatiramer acetate and interferon beta are known to be ineffective. Many disease modifying therapies in MS such as rituximab are also effective in NMO.
@@DrBrandonBeaber True, and some of the recent theories are showing Natalizumab to be ineffective for auto antibody diseases like MOG as well
@@jessicaisnetto9935 Indeed
Does MS cause hearing loss?? i have sudden hearing loss on left ear, nearly 80% hearing loss, when taking MRI white matter lesions present in my brain, doctor diagnosed it as MS... But i don't have any other symptoms except hearing loss....
hearing loss is a very rare symptoms of MS, but it has been reported.
@@DrBrandonBeaber Ok Thank you Doctor...
My mri impression small vessel ischemia. D/D: Ms
My history psychological problem....GAD
Now problem numbness arm hand feet or imbalance
Saliva eating..
????
Sir is it possible no lesions on brain as well as spine mri and my symptoms are worsening day by day . My main symptom is weakness in legs. Plzz tell sir my age is only 24 and m very confused
hey, did the weakness go away? We are of similar age and my main symptom is also weakness in legs
I wish you can look at my MRI
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Sorry Nurten. I can't help you with that.