The Wi-Fi Signal That DOESN'T Drop

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  • @MarcusH...
    @MarcusH... ปีที่แล้ว +870

    Automatic roaming between access points on the same network should be the top priority for them to fix. That currently is and has been the most annoying thing with wifi for a long time now

    • @shane_gentle
      @shane_gentle ปีที่แล้ว +58

      Yep. I fully agree as a college student living on campus. There's access points in literally every unit in my dorm, but my connection drops when I'm walking.

    • @quinton1661
      @quinton1661 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      It's fine if your network supports 802.11k. This revision adds available APs and their channels to the handshake so your device doesn't have to search every channel looking for an AP to roam to. Also, keep all APs on the same SSID or you're gonna have a bad time. Splitting 2.4 and 5 up to their own SSID is up to you, but I prefer one SSID to rule them all.

    • @MarcusH...
      @MarcusH... ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@quinton1661 I just have different SSIDs for frequencies and APs cause it's not gonna switch automatically anyways so with different names i can at least quickly switch manually when i need to.. which is every day

    • @space0pirate
      @space0pirate ปีที่แล้ว +13

      wasnt this already solved by mesh type routers? I mean, we have a setup of 6 Tplink devices and its literally smooth butter everywhere we go as compared to repeaters and what not

    • @bassman87
      @bassman87 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      802.11k is a thing, however the reason roaming sucks is because you're network team didn't do a good job of setting up wireless. probably have you're datarates set super low and tx power set super high. 9 times out of 10, raising the minimum datarate, and lowering the power levels so that coverage at least -65db or better in all areas fixes the roaming issue.

  • @4203105
    @4203105 ปีที่แล้ว +1138

    Connecting on multiple frequencies should have been a thing years ago. I'm baffled that it's only going to get implemented now.

    • @Q_QQ_Q
      @Q_QQ_Q ปีที่แล้ว +21

      In theories yes

    • @OllieHamon
      @OllieHamon ปีที่แล้ว +142

      As with switching to the closest access point, which might not even happen this revision still.

    • @sassuki
      @sassuki ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Too much radiation already -.-

    • @FireWyvern870
      @FireWyvern870 ปีที่แล้ว +164

      @@sassuki ... Tell me you're joking. Non-ionizing radiation doesn't do anything to living being. Even 7Ghz radio wave is still below visible light.

    • @ViXoZuDo
      @ViXoZuDo ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@OllieHamon switching to the closest already works with mesh networks...

  • @thetechcorner7204
    @thetechcorner7204 ปีที่แล้ว +681

    Get free wifi anywhere you go **bass drop**

    • @squirtle88
      @squirtle88 ปีที่แล้ว +117

      why would you drop a fish...

    • @fl1ntlock1
      @fl1ntlock1 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      ​@@squirtle88 slippery

    • @SpykoYT
      @SpykoYT ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Hold up

    • @ExoticLlama
      @ExoticLlama ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Free wifi ✅ Stolen laptop ✅ Ads block ✅ Never subscribed ✅

    • @darilight
      @darilight ปีที่แล้ว +15

      EDM starts blasting your ears

  • @tim3172
    @tim3172 ปีที่แล้ว +454

    As someone who got screwed with "draft N" products (because my boss said it was the latest and greatest... $8000 later.. very unreliable), don't bother with an un-finalized spec.
    Wait until 7 is fully-fully ready. You'll know because that's when Scumcast will start advertising it on their routers.

    • @MaxusR
      @MaxusR ปีที่แล้ว +81

      You'll know because that's when they will start advertising Wi-Fi 8 draft everywhere.

    • @s2turbine
      @s2turbine ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I had an early Draft N combo router that I put in a business that I could pick-up signal, in the city, in my car , on a laptop, over a mile away. yikes.

    • @KingLarbear
      @KingLarbear ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Do you mean Concast

    • @InfernosReaper
      @InfernosReaper ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Is Scumcast anything like Comtrash?

    • @martin0499
      @martin0499 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Comtrash will give Wi-fi 7 routers to their customers when Wi-fi 10 is out

  • @NIAtoolkit
    @NIAtoolkit ปีที่แล้ว +212

    All these devices that claim WiFi 7 need to be labeled “WiFi7 (draft)” until the full spec is ratified

    • @TechieZeddie
      @TechieZeddie ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes

    • @vadnegru
      @vadnegru ปีที่แล้ว +4

      We had that with 802.11 N draft

    • @Crazy_Chriz
      @Crazy_Chriz ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ikr. Like some asus ones

    • @denniselisson
      @denniselisson ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Well i think they are called WiFi7 ready

    • @GrimYak
      @GrimYak ปีที่แล้ว +4

      As a musician that uses 2.4Ghz wireless I can’t wait for the rest of the devices move on to 5 and 6 Ghz.

  • @flamesword300
    @flamesword300 ปีที่แล้ว +101

    So basically WiFi 7 just turns WiFi into cellular. Not literally but these new features sound a lot like features found in 5G. Very cool to see.

    • @Lanon0987654321
      @Lanon0987654321 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Pretty much carrier aggregation for WiFi lol

    • @vadnegru
      @vadnegru ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It were part of LTE actually.

    • @markarca6360
      @markarca6360 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      ​@@vadnegru LTE-Advanced (LTE+) to be precise.

  • @Z4KIUS
    @Z4KIUS ปีที่แล้ว +143

    all modern access points create 2.4 and 5GHz at the same SSID, the main issue is forcing the client to not stick to the band too long and not dropping the connection during swap I guess, having this figured out is surely a great promise, though we'll see if it works

    • @ArmiaKhairy
      @ArmiaKhairy ปีที่แล้ว +7

      They figured it out in cellular network long ago, but I believe the main issue was the processing power needed and how to reliably do it.

    • @j340_official
      @j340_official ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yeah but the connection between the client/AP will operate on only one frequency… but with MLO, all 3 frequency bands can potentially be used simultaneously. So some of the data will xmit on 2.4 GHz, 5 GHz, and 6 GHz. Will be interesting to see how much better (if at all) the MLO approach is compared to conventional (1 freq at a time) Wi-Fi communications.

    • @LokiScarletWasHere
      @LokiScarletWasHere ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've yet to see an AP name all the bands the same by default since the Airport was discontinued. These days it's rare to find a consumer AP that won't fuck up when you use this configuration, because for some reason, outside of companies that were following Apple's lead, everyone was going the route of naming different bands different names, creating this weird culture of like a million AP names for a few networks in the neighborhood.

    • @charlesturner897
      @charlesturner897 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@@LokiScarletWasHere what planet are you on? Every single device I've used had both bands on the same SSID, the first thing I do is split them to different SSIDs

    • @LokiScarletWasHere
      @LokiScarletWasHere ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@charlesturner897 Earth. Which universe, however, remains uncertain, as it's almost like I wake up in a slightly different world every day.
      Aaaaanyway, as long as your AP and your client devices support it, you really should be using one SSID per network, not two, three, or six.

  • @JourneysADRIFT
    @JourneysADRIFT ปีที่แล้ว +62

    I look forward to the next "Linus upgrading his home wifi AGAIN" video.

    • @vadnegru
      @vadnegru ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Won't happen in a year or two

    • @56kwith200ping
      @56kwith200ping ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Unplug Wifi 6+ Unifi PoE AP... plug in Unifi Wifi 7 PoE AP. Wow that was hard.

  • @kernelpickle
    @kernelpickle ปีที่แล้ว +32

    The coordinated roaming is hands down going to be the most useful function, because it's infuriating to troubleshoot when you have multiple access points in your house, but only one of them reaches certain areas. The networks I manage at my day job will probably get WiFi 6E in another 10 years, so in 15 years it's gonna make my work life much better.

    • @PoisonNuke
      @PoisonNuke ปีที่แล้ว +1

      and whats the benefit over the current coordinated roaming we have? In my network all devices roam seamlessly from one AP to the next, coordinated by a central WiFi controller. I can even play VR-games in my entire appartment with 4 APs without dropping below 300Mbit of bandwith (150mbit is the minimum for VR streaming to work)

  • @JohnDoe-wq5eu
    @JohnDoe-wq5eu ปีที่แล้ว +139

    I always love stuff like this because I know it'll be years and years before it trickles down to the average people and products. And hopefully by then most problem will have been smoothed out. Being an early adopter rarely works out great.

    • @RickMyBalls
      @RickMyBalls ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes, i love waiting so much.

    • @ayyorta
      @ayyorta ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@RickMyBalls I think you're being sarcastic but he's right. Early adapting in tech is rarely worth it. I really want an OLED monitor but they're so expensive at the moment I'm happy to wait until they're at a level-headed price for the technology, like TVs.

    • @JohnDoe-wq5eu
      @JohnDoe-wq5eu ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@ayyorta
      And honestly I'm not even telling people to wait. What I am telling people is that I have no sympathy for people that jump head first into an empty pool. More times than not being an early adopter is being a beta tester. The product very well might have a lot of issues and bugs to work out. Beyond that massive caveat it's all good.

    • @tomikun8057
      @tomikun8057 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ayyorta but oled stuff isn't expansive anymore, almost every phone that i can find is oled these days

    • @ayyorta
      @ayyorta ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@tomikun8057 oled gaming monitors are expensive

  • @ShendonZ
    @ShendonZ ปีที่แล้ว +133

    a dedicated WiFi 7 will be great for Wireless VR, now i just need to wait for a VR headset with OLED, foveated rendering and WiFi7 and a FOV of 100+, this will be the perfect headset

    • @Flying-Bunny
      @Flying-Bunny ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'm waiting for an actual holodeck at this point 😂

    • @Flying-Bunny
      @Flying-Bunny ปีที่แล้ว

      And I know your expectations are much lower and reasonable, still I think we'll have to wait for a wee while

    • @vidal9747
      @vidal9747 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@RavenKStudios if they support custom lenses it is good enough. I used to use glasses so I know the frustrations, but it is not feasible to have every prescription from -10 to +10 and without counting the, hard of doing in a VR device, astigmatism prescriptions. The quest 2 works well because you can put on it your custom prescriptions, but I don't think that making a device more expansive, without even including all possible prescriptions is worth it.

    • @vidal9747
      @vidal9747 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RavenKStudios I don't think that anything other than lower prescriptions would be viable because of focal distances. You need to alter the convergence or divergence of light. Maybe if they invented a film that can converge more light depending on its voltage it would be possible, but at the moment, I think it is impossible. I would also love it, but I don't think it's viable.

    • @daboross2
      @daboross2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Would it actually be better for VR than WiFi 6e? It sounds like the main advantage is more reliable connection at long distances or when moving over distance. WiFi 6e is already incredibly fast, and low latency.

  • @hukmai
    @hukmai ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Combining all signals into one sounds like a great implementation if it works well, as some router have this " smart wifi" that auto switches bands creating a stutter mess, I guess if it's seemless it should good

    • @Lolatyou332
      @Lolatyou332 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Until you and your neighbors are all sending the signal across all bands.
      This doesn't even help latency, it just increases bandwidth. Ethernet is better

    • @tomikun8057
      @tomikun8057 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Lolatyou332 5ghz wifi can barely go through 2 cement walls so unless you're in a wooden hut, this won't hurt
      also ethernet is always better, it will always be better in this case no matter what
      You can go plug a Ethernet to usb c dongle on your phone if it's so good👍

    • @Pyroteq
      @Pyroteq ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tomikun8057 Yanks all live in cardboard boxes so I don't think they'll notice.

    • @Pyroteq
      @Pyroteq ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Lolatyou332 This is going to SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK for people in apartments. You already have tools setting their 2.4Ghz channel width to 80Mhz at 100% gain completely flooding the spectrum. RIP IoT devices.

    • @tomikun8057
      @tomikun8057 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Zaydan Alfariz Asia exists. Provinces still use wooden housing.

  • @Telivanos80
    @Telivanos80 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    I'm still trying to explain to people how Wi-Fi 6 works now I got to come up with a new analogy for seven

    • @jeffvanstone
      @jeffvanstone ปีที่แล้ว +23

      6 is good, but 7, that's a whole number more.

    • @hellomark1
      @hellomark1 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It's one louder

    • @JorgetePanete
      @JorgetePanete ปีที่แล้ว +4

      there are seven wifis in your wifi

  • @2.0taccord
    @2.0taccord ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It's amazing to see stuff like MLO (seems similar to carrier aggregation in the cellular worlds), OFDMA, higher modulation finally make their waves. LTE and nR already use these technologies

    • @ShadowriverUB
      @ShadowriverUB ปีที่แล้ว +1

      they forced to make MLO as with inttoduction of 6Ghz there would be 3 access points listed to same network,

  • @ZiggyMercury
    @ZiggyMercury ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I'd love it if you can make a Techquickie on this one: what were the input and output methods for old mainframes and minicomputers? In almost every picture I see of them (from the '60s, 70's etc.) I don't see a monitor anywhere. Sometimes it does look like there's a typewriter nearby, but I'm not sure whether it served for input or output and, if so, how.

    • @l3gacyb3ta21
      @l3gacyb3ta21 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      hi! Old computer nerd here (as in old computers, im like 16). You're right about the typewriters! They were called teletypes, and were actually origianally invented for telecomunication, as a faster way to send military messages. Basically by typing on one machine, the writing would show up on another, and by typing on the other, writing would show up on yours. Some smart person just put a computer in the place of the other machine, and bam, IO?

    • @vadnegru
      @vadnegru ปีที่แล้ว

      These systems use thin client approach. One mainframe could host many terminals that would operate similar to modern PC (in text mode only). Also older systems used punchcards for input and printer for output. You could bring your app on card and later take it with written output. Later came tape add-ons and hard drives. Both were about the size of a nightstand.

  • @cyberrb25
    @cyberrb25 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If anything, I hope the WiFi 7 does fix the connection where multiple access points are set. Even a smallish apartment as where I live in can have issues reconnecting with just 2 of them. To the point where I even use my data plan to browse, play online games (on my phone) or watch videos - the advantage of living in Europe, where telecom companies do fight and get better deals, like our 300Mb+3 unlimited mobile data plans for €80.

  • @Derekzparty
    @Derekzparty ปีที่แล้ว +4

    In Soviet Russia, Wifi signal drops you!

  • @robertmclendon2702
    @robertmclendon2702 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This sounds great but at the same time it also sounds like it will have the same issues that band steering has already. I’ve got a Roku stick that already won’t let go of the 5ghz band on the opposite end of the house while a laptop won’t get off the 2.4ghz band sitting next to the router. Call me old fashioned but I’m still down for manual switching between bands rather than waiting on a firmware program to decide that my latency is still within tolerance to stay on the same band

  • @Jamman1403
    @Jamman1403 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    0:10 my broadband went down at that moment 😂

  • @philipmrch8326
    @philipmrch8326 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    It seems problematic to have hardware already implementing a non-finished specification.

    • @kdt110
      @kdt110 ปีที่แล้ว

      I guess the hardware is also not finished and maybe there are good friends with someone who is in charge or ratifying 7. Seems like a stretch but 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @philipmrch8326
      @philipmrch8326 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kdt110 yeah exactly. An unfinished specification can result in hardware that will not match the final specification.

  • @caskadestudio
    @caskadestudio ปีที่แล้ว

    Tbh all of these sound awesome, only thing I'd be worried about is clientside battery. I know most of this will be handled by the network, but things like automatic access point roaming will probably require slightly more battery life & memory. A small impact, though one that could be just a little annoying.

  • @RobotMowerTricks
    @RobotMowerTricks ปีที่แล้ว +1

    From what I can tell, mesh helps a lot with the roaming, But it still 'hangs' more than it should. But it seems better than a traditional non-mesh access point.

  • @dvaVivy
    @dvaVivy ปีที่แล้ว

    Heya! I was wondering how this is different from our home network. We are using WiFi 6 and only one SSID is present. When I'm near it uses the 5GHz band but when I'm far away it switches to 2.4GHz. thanks!

  • @EragoEntertainment
    @EragoEntertainment ปีที่แล้ว

    We just (a year ago or so) upgraded to a WiFi 6 router (without 6GHz).
    But I guess that upgrade was necessary anyway, because the old Router had a bunch of issues with how many devices were connected.

  • @temhgb
    @temhgb ปีที่แล้ว

    My wifi already does this, except for having both connected at the same time. It switches automatically between the 2 frequencies when you get too far away, so it’s this but with less speed at shorter ranges

  • @mqe73M
    @mqe73M ปีที่แล้ว +1

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    • @mqe73M
      @mqe73M ปีที่แล้ว +2

      sorry my little brother stole my phone

  • @Suaves2101
    @Suaves2101 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome! It would be great to see similar technologies for mobile networks too.

    • @vadnegru
      @vadnegru ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They kind of already exists. If you see 4G+ or LTE+ it means that it uses multiple frequencies. And smooth roaming is a thing too.

  • @TechieZeddie
    @TechieZeddie ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Multi-band means multi-radios which means battery hungry. I don't think we'll see this in practice for phones for a while. Same reason why most phones and laptops are 2x2.

    • @Lanon0987654321
      @Lanon0987654321 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I mean if they could do it for cellular connections they could do it for WiFi considering that phones now can run multiple bands at 4x4 mimo simultaneously on top of a 5G band that's also on 4x4.

    • @AbRaSkZo
      @AbRaSkZo ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Lanon0987654321 yes, LTE had carrier aggregation for years.
      WiFi uses less energy than cellular too.

    • @MAFz7
      @MAFz7 ปีที่แล้ว

      We already have it, Nubia Red Magic 8 Pro and a few others that I forgot their names.

    • @TechieZeddie
      @TechieZeddie ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MAFz7 I was thinking Pixels and iPhones. I'm sure there are high end phones and niche phones that has more. It's one of the frustrating things about the phones, tablets, and laptops I buy (Pixel 7 Pro, Tab S8, and laptop with AX210 WIFI for example).

  • @joaopauloabdalla7233
    @joaopauloabdalla7233 ปีที่แล้ว

    But my AirPort Extreme from 2010 does a very similar trick when not separating the networks in 2,4 and 5GHz, jus leave one and it will broadcast both to a device and it’ll select one of them based on the noise/distance.

  • @clearskyy
    @clearskyy ปีที่แล้ว

    very cool, maybe I won't have to get those power line adapters afterall lol

  • @DavidStruveDesigns
    @DavidStruveDesigns ปีที่แล้ว +33

    If they impliment it properly, they could make it so your phone sends out two signals at once - 2.4ghz for lower-bandwith needs like notifications, text messages and other background stuff like updating apps in the background, whilst the faster 5 or 6GHz can be exclusively for more intensive stuff like game streaming and videos. That would speed things up even more to keep the two streams separated so the higher bandwith isn't so cluttered with the slower less demanding stuff and vice versa ... well, until you start moving out of the high-speed frequency ranges and only _then_ it should combine them back into the lower-bandwith frequency.

    • @rocketPower047
      @rocketPower047 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sounds battery heavy though

    • @smoothbraindetainer
      @smoothbraindetainer ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Some phones (Xiaomi being the biggest I know) already can do this, and have been able to for a long time. And no it's not particularly battery heavy. Wifi uses negligible power compared to all other phone functions.

    • @REAL-UNKNOWN-SHINOBI
      @REAL-UNKNOWN-SHINOBI ปีที่แล้ว

      Not going to happen though.
      Do you realize how much more circuitry the hardwere is going to need to be able to do this?

    • @smoothbraindetainer
      @smoothbraindetainer ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@REAL-UNKNOWN-SHINOBI none. It's already a thing.

    • @PoisonNuke
      @PoisonNuke ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@REAL-UNKNOWN-SHINOBI EVERY 5GHz device is already capabale of doing this, because in order for 5Ghz roaming to work, the connection will go to the 2.4Ghz band first, then change the 5GHz accesspoint and then switch back to 5Ghz without any interruption of service.
      But roaming is the reason why you cannot use different bands for different kinds of services, because applications should not bother about the network, thats just one uniform interface for the applications and the wifi controller makes sure that everything works.

  • @N1ghtR1der666
    @N1ghtR1der666 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    higher frequency in necessarily shorter range, rather it doesn't penetrate objects like walls as well

  • @dan_loup
    @dan_loup ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It would be good if they included a very slow bandwidth frequency as well as a "better than nothing" connection too like 200 Mhz or something.

    • @vadnegru
      @vadnegru ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There is not that much of spectrum for home use, closest to this would be 433 Mhz but even if it would be implemented, bandwidth would be severely limited and devices need to have bigger antennas, since it needed for longer waves.

  • @ejazali4
    @ejazali4 ปีที่แล้ว

    3:46 mobile devices only have this nasty habit when they're being used quite a bit or doing something real-time with the network such as a call as they don't have the opportunity to roam around for other networks as it can hinder their own performance. They become stubborn when battery savers are on as it reduces how often they roam for new networks. However in normal conditions, with a phone locked and you move around, it should most definitely switch routers as it has no reason to not automatically roam.

  • @johndextersantos9541
    @johndextersantos9541 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder if ELRS protocol can also be used for Long range (50KM+) peer to peer communication.

  • @oproep
    @oproep ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ja! Daar hebben we Dwingeloo Radiotelescoop (DRT) van ASTRON op 3:06 gebouwd in 1954 en nog steeds operationeel!

  • @la3692
    @la3692 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the explanation oh, I just bought a new phone that has Wi-Fi 7. And couldn't find a router that was Wi-Fi 7. But now I kind of understand.❤

  • @Gamen4Bros
    @Gamen4Bros ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Didn't wifi 6 come out recently ish??

  • @kyledavis2873
    @kyledavis2873 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Linus updates his routers.... again

    • @firefly2472
      @firefly2472 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Router and ap points.

  • @j.w.grayson6937
    @j.w.grayson6937 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just upgraded my AT&T gateway router from 802.11AC to AX and am very please with the results.

  • @wildyato3737
    @wildyato3737 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:20 And it is for single or multiple devices of Wifi 7 connects like this??

  • @pyromethious
    @pyromethious ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The more I started looking into the wifi explosion, the more I started reconsidering a Cat8, whole house wiring project. I'm planning on putting a powered, weatherproof switch under the house and branching to the various rooms. We already have coax run that way, so it won't take much to run the networking in parallel. While I doubt we'll ever see (read: willing to pay for) gig, It'd be worth the investment to have the high bandwidth for data transfer for the planned storage share.

    • @ironfist7789
      @ironfist7789 ปีที่แล้ว

      Eh, not sure if cat 8 is worth it or not, cat 6a or maybe pre-terminated fiber can be good if you want more than 10gb or more sfp+ or qsfp, etc

    • @asher5722
      @asher5722 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@ironfist7789It's overkill, but it's still cheaper than getting a wifi 7 router and access points.

    • @Distress.
      @Distress. 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cat 6 or 6A should be more than enough for a house.

  • @EmilePolka
    @EmilePolka ปีที่แล้ว

    Best results in wifi roaming is just stick to one band, i basically split 2.4ghz and 5ghz wifi on their own ssid. 5ghz while roaming tends to give best results for me while 2.4ghz is kinda messed with roaming given how good that signal at penetration that device still thinks it still got good connection.

  • @Xamiakass
    @Xamiakass ปีที่แล้ว

    yeah... i instantly see the issue with MLO... the router being placed in a family household and overheating and restarting, continuously... the heat generated is ridiculous. seen those routers with fans/active ventilation? yeah...

  • @Alissontw
    @Alissontw ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Its important to mention that all these new features dont matter if you have a phone made 5 years ago, or a entry-level device. These specs are not retrocompatible, and do need a device that has these to have any benefit.

    • @johnsmith-mo6kz
      @johnsmith-mo6kz ปีที่แล้ว

      Or live in an area that won't see any isp investments for the next few decades, relying on satellite

  • @llamasaylol
    @llamasaylol ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't understand why phones don't have the ability to ask to seamlessly switch router on the same SSID ("Hey original router, I see FA:1B, can I go over there?") and the original router just pass over the connection table. With an extra antenna in the phone, you could even pass the connections over one at a time. Heck, you could even TCP multi home/path that biz to really make it even more seamless.

    • @asandax6
      @asandax6 ปีที่แล้ว

      in other words wifi access points should be pingable.

  • @heeatqrheeatqr3317
    @heeatqrheeatqr3317 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Could you please make a video explaining Home Wifi channel allocation?

  • @gary56
    @gary56 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I bought a TP-Link BE85 WI-FI 7 mesh router and it is a beast! I have had no problems with it and the range is awesome. It is the best router I have ever had. My smart device never drop now. I came from an eero pro 6e and it beats it hands down.

  • @subirmajumdar4493
    @subirmajumdar4493 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hmm, sounds like all this frequency query and switching will drain the phone batteries faster. Any idea how they might be thinking of dealing with that problem?

  • @yuvalne
    @yuvalne ปีที่แล้ว +13

    my phone finally switching to the closer access point is the true blessing here. I'm tired of having to disconnect and reconnect again.

    • @zekicay
      @zekicay ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This works fine on my wifi (no matter if it is 4, 5, 6, 6e or mixed) network that supports 11 k, r and v. Be angry at wifi ap vendors not implementing these standards.

    • @firefly2472
      @firefly2472 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its not only your phone or your current setup. Its the bad software thats running on it.
      Unifi does this realy great.

    • @3lietechhack646
      @3lietechhack646 ปีที่แล้ว

      this is such a first world problem, but I fully agree lmao

  • @Alex-yt8gn
    @Alex-yt8gn ปีที่แล้ว

    He is talking about Wifi 7 but I don't even have Wifi 6 at home, yet! 😂😂

  • @michaeljuliano8839
    @michaeljuliano8839 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had signal problems during your b roll for bad signal.

  • @BKazunori
    @BKazunori ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm more interested in wireless connection for PCVR. Any other thing would be quality bonus, a welcome one, but not major.

  • @MrDufflepud
    @MrDufflepud 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If you were using WiFi for a low-datarate tasks, would MLO give *any* advantages for range/connection stability vs. just enforcing 2.4GHz on existing generations of routers? Seems like it's just about preventing users having to switch manually, right?

  • @adrianthoroughgood1191
    @adrianthoroughgood1191 ปีที่แล้ว

    Last time i bought a wifi product things were letter designated like a g n. When did numbers like wifi 6 come in? What do they even mean?
    I need to buy a usb wifi adapter for my pc. On the one hand i don't want to spend more than I need to, on the other hand I don't want to get something that will be soon be obsolete. I'm also hoping to wire Ethernet anyway so I may not need it for long. My router is a BT smart hub 2 which is dual band and supports 802.11a/b/g/n/ac. This is unlikely to be upgraded any time soon. So I assume there's no point buying something with higher features than this, since they wouldn't be used unless I bought a better router? My main priorities are range and reliability of connection. Is it best to have an external / finger sized antenna? My instinct is to look for the cheapest one that supports ac. Is there anything else that would make a difference assuming my current router?

  • @xdevs23
    @xdevs23 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Summing up 2.4, 5 and 6 GHz into one AP would add the speeds of all three. That would be insane.

  • @rhobslo-fiandrelaxingmusic1121
    @rhobslo-fiandrelaxingmusic1121 ปีที่แล้ว

    why did i see a ltt ad for this video lol

  • @TigerTT
    @TigerTT ปีที่แล้ว

    My current TP-Link AC4000 router already has super long range lol I can literally connect to it from across the street and it still gets 5 bars. The funny thing is the fact that it's not even the most advanced and up to date router lmao.

  • @BlueHasia
    @BlueHasia ปีที่แล้ว

    can some one explain to me what high bandwidth activity for avg home owner will not work at 2.4?

    • @gamecubeplayer
      @gamecubeplayer ปีที่แล้ว

      the biggest problem with 2.4ghz wifi is that it has high latency that's bad for online gaming

  • @ralmslb
    @ralmslb ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ok, this just made me give up my objective of upgrading to a Wifi 6E Access Point, makes a lot more sense to wait for Wifi 7 as it includes stuff that I prioritize.

    • @ralmslb
      @ralmslb ปีที่แล้ว

      @Phi Wifi 6E is normalized just not a lot of variety of equipements. I use enthusiast gear, mostly from Ubiquiti.
      I currently have a Ubiquiti AC LR Access Point that does the job very well, I want to refresh and if its just for speed is not worth it. I want both the 6Ghz band update and these improvements on Wifi 7 is the stuff that should have been implemented for ages at this point.
      So, I'm ok with waiting for Wifi 7 for a year or 2 and spend 200€ on Access Point for it.

    • @ShadowriverUB
      @ShadowriverUB ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@Phi WiFi7 is real just not finalized, but it is indeed risk to invest it now not to mention overpriced. WiFi6E is fully finaluzed and ready, problem is regional regulation for 6Ghz usage making hardware manufactures treating it as premium feature, that why its not as accessable

  • @Kadir67_471
    @Kadir67_471 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bro here in Germany we don't really have access to 5G nor fiberglass Internet... and you are already talking about 7G 😭

  • @upside_down_01
    @upside_down_01 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wished they really try to solve the meshing fragmentation as well.

  • @anthonynye1747
    @anthonynye1747 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    WIFI puncturing is the best along with connecting to multiple different bands.

  • @a.g8517
    @a.g8517 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video

  • @nbibby
    @nbibby ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome rap tongue twister at 2:32 - How many takes?

  • @StrokeMahEgo
    @StrokeMahEgo ปีที่แล้ว

    So the range thing is just the same as ac and ax using band steering on the same ssid? So at the edges of the AP range, you'll still lose connection. Hmm.
    Other improvements seem quite good though.

  • @RBFR01
    @RBFR01 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You cant reach wifi 7 speeds however your connection overall will be faster, faster downloads, uploads, video streaming ect. I love these wifi upgrades because wifi atm is generally not great so I love seeing it get better.

  • @bnjmn21
    @bnjmn21 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:31 this must have taken ages to say so many numbers correctly at this speed!

  • @anthonynye1747
    @anthonynye1747 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    1:12 so is it full deplex?

  • @blewskrin
    @blewskrin ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I hoped for PoE but with WiFi :).
    I think I would rather invest into 40GB (theoretical) Cat8 internal network at home. It depends on your use cases but. I am still not over how much I have spent on the WiFi6 upgrade a bit more than a year ago.

    • @minusdin
      @minusdin ปีที่แล้ว +3

      PoE but with WiFi?

    • @blewskrin
      @blewskrin ปีที่แล้ว

      @@minusdin Sorry, I was joking :)

    • @blewskrin
      @blewskrin ปีที่แล้ว

      @@phi2307 I have seen CAT8 cables but haven't figured out if there are any routers and switches that support that.

    • @RickMyBalls
      @RickMyBalls ปีที่แล้ว

      @@minusdin Yeah, bascially magic at this point in time.

  • @gjkrisa
    @gjkrisa ปีที่แล้ว

    Wi-Fi has been progressing so fast that I still have a Wi-Fi 5 gig router from five years ago because I’m waiting on prices to be more stable on Wi-Fi 6 then I was messing with vr and was like I’m going to want Wi-Fi 6e if I want to get the best wireless be experience. Now 7 is coming out when I am almost going to drop a good amount of money on a Wi-Fi 6e mesh setup gee

  • @trsskater
    @trsskater ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My Netgear router doesn't send all bands at the same time to my phone but it automatically switches between wifi 6 and 6e depending on how far away I am from the router seamlessly. So I already feel like I have this.

    • @frostbite1991
      @frostbite1991 ปีที่แล้ว

      that's just band steering. you're still only ever on 1 channel at a time, rather than all available channels at the same time. but yes, at distance it will work like regular old wifi. I see this only being beneficial for extremely congested area's like concert halls and stadiums.

  • @HanSolo__
    @HanSolo__ ปีที่แล้ว

    Did I just get a pre-video ad with Linus Sebastian in silks and with a corona format cigar in his hand?

    • @RickMyBalls
      @RickMyBalls ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe? Only you will ever know.

  • @jory7329
    @jory7329 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Finally, I can use my neighbors wifi more reliably now

  • @RemiDupont
    @RemiDupont ปีที่แล้ว

    Yay, James!

  • @lil----lil
    @lil----lil ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you have to use the Gandalf video?

  • @AaronShenghao
    @AaronShenghao ปีที่แล้ว

    Its like your teacher asking for your homework, but you haven't done it yet. 😅

  • @markarca6360
    @markarca6360 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wi-Fi 7 has functions similar to Carrier Aggregation in LTE-Advanced.

  • @lanzer22
    @lanzer22 ปีที่แล้ว

    How would it have better range if the best that it can do is 2.4ghz?

  • @sakdapravat914
    @sakdapravat914 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now we can share your internet to your entire neighborhood

  • @AkandoDE
    @AkandoDE ปีที่แล้ว

    Isn't "Mesh" the same thing like the seamless transition between routers what they are trying with WiFi7? And also my home router switches to 2,4Ghz when I'm to far away. So I don't get what should be so special about WiFi 7. Maybe I just don't get the point haha

  • @johnsmith-mo6kz
    @johnsmith-mo6kz ปีที่แล้ว

    Still stuck with my 12 Mb down satellite for the past 6 years and for the foreseeable future though

  • @mrkiosk245
    @mrkiosk245 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can we have a recap of all the different standards please I feel like you don't keep track for a couple of months and everything changes! Eg WiFi 6 Vs 6e what about that super high frequency was is like 60ghz and stuff like this

    • @ShadowriverUB
      @ShadowriverUB ปีที่แล้ว

      6e is 6 over 6GHz there no diffrence in standard, it would still be called 802.11ax in old way, same as 802.11n had 5GHz optional. 60Ghz been always arounf but is not part of wifi standard, its 802.11ad newer ay and its branded WiGig, but potentially it could be integraded to WiFi in future

  • @frosted1030
    @frosted1030 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a software tweak, not a change in how wifi works. Generally this would cause devices to be jammed full of even more antenna until people figure out that most wifi routers can already do this "trick". Skip, wait for wifi 8.

  • @raccoonicorn3172
    @raccoonicorn3172 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Pronounciation of MLO at the Beginning Got me, XD MmmLOO

  • @jwdickieson
    @jwdickieson ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally routers have caught up with mine, Wi-Fi 10 and one terabit physical connection😂😂

  • @TheWebstaff
    @TheWebstaff ปีที่แล้ว

    2:52 Ahh you missed a joke here about keeping power down to avoid turning your house in to a giant microwave oven!

  • @itsdeonlol
    @itsdeonlol ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How do we know what version of WIFI we have?

    • @RickMyBalls
      @RickMyBalls ปีที่แล้ว

      Check the box or your device's settings, it'll be different for everything.

  • @dktr2
    @dktr2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Spectral efficiency is basically identical to AX, there is some spectrum that will be unavailable in many countries because it is simply licensed there. From embracing roaming, it is 802.11r/k/v and it is supported by the user who connects. 3 x 320MHz is nothing unusual, in the 60GHz - 802.11ad band, 2 GHz channels are available. Only the band aggregation is interesting.

    • @BeastyBite
      @BeastyBite ปีที่แล้ว

      what this person says

    • @ShadowriverUB
      @ShadowriverUB ปีที่แล้ว

      There more then that, there very good videos explaining all technical details of updates made from 6

  • @seansingh4421
    @seansingh4421 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can we please have a Wifi which doesn’t have bad latency for same network data transfer through NFS or SMB for fs ?

  • @dtemp132
    @dtemp132 ปีที่แล้ว

    They’ve had automatic coordination of roaming between access points for years: 802.11r, 802.11k, 802.11v.

    • @ShadowriverUB
      @ShadowriverUB ปีที่แล้ว

      MLO let you broudcast on multiple bands at the same time

  • @whosonedphone
    @whosonedphone ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm getting nightmares thinking about all the RF in my condo complex. Forget about using joy-cons.

  • @jr01theweeb
    @jr01theweeb ปีที่แล้ว

    About time they worked on a new spec, roaming wifi was poorly implement on all mobile devices since wifi has been a thing.
    Even Unifi feature doesn't fully fix this because you the host wanting to stay on the last router.

  • @gamingwithd101
    @gamingwithd101 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:52 😂

  • @nickfirzen
    @nickfirzen ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't understand how the phone/laptops OSes cannot just automatically choose a stronger known wifi signal compared to current if you move around your house, they clearly do see the signal strengths and wifis in he settings, why can't they just make an optional algorythm like I wrote? Sure battery life but even so the more option avaible deep in settings the better.

  • @Kingstallington
    @Kingstallington ปีที่แล้ว

    even if you turn off the POWER?

  • @ZenRyoku
    @ZenRyoku ปีที่แล้ว

    van anyone please tell me the difference in 5ghz wifi literally sitting next to your router....
    ....and what the holy hell is this 10g mobile data ive been hearing about...i was like ok 5g....DAMN thats fast...but how did they skip to 10g???? and how does that compare to the highest hard-line fiber optic internet there is...
    seriously..... ive been using the internet since 28.8 kbps dial up modems to play bbs board games like Extalagis...which was sooo awesome back in the 90's ....
    im totally feeling im being overrun by IT tech and how it works...

  • @djayjp
    @djayjp ปีที่แล้ว +2

    They're just going to expand the number of channels each network uses, clogging it up for everyone else....

  • @holderofallknowledge604
    @holderofallknowledge604 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm not even at 6 yet. Going to start upgrading wifi like GPUs soon

    • @gamingwithd101
      @gamingwithd101 ปีที่แล้ว

      Atleast you have a gpu.❤😂

  • @balla2172
    @balla2172 ปีที่แล้ว

    If it's not finalized how can you preorder

    • @ShadowriverUB
      @ShadowriverUB ปีที่แล้ว

      Nothings stops them to implement draft as it considered nonstandard feature of wifi 6e, but they cant say they certficated for wifi 7