Just the other day I was thinking about how none of today's fitness world probably knows of terms like dreamer bulk lol. Glad to see old school terms still kicking around
Wasn't "Dreamer" the username of someone in the bodybuilding.com forums (probably the Misc section) that did this kind of bulk, hence the name? Not really sure though...
I like Menno Henselmans article about stretching - it matches my own experience well. Do stretching or ART to get into comfortable ROM before training. Do resistance training with full ROM for each muscle - and this is what will actually restructure the tissue into a better configuration (adequately flexible, less 'trigger points'). I've replaced deadlifts with Romanians - and added overhead shrugs and hip abductions to properly train muscles that were sensitive (for me at least) to spasming at random times - and that stopped it happening.
Really appreciated the pros and cons of utilizing a rapid rate of weight gain question. I'm currently experimenting the "all-in" approach as I've always been lean and I'm genuinely curious if I've held my full potential back all these years.
JM & Dave Tate discussed the JM Blakely diet a few years back. They then also discussed how JM went back down to the 220 class within that same year. Caloric resteiction and increased activity is all he boiled it down to. He's a very interesting follow on any social. But yah he didn't go 181 to 308, back to 181. He went 181 to 308 back to 220. Within a year lol.
Has there been any research on the effect of isometric stretching on resistance training as opposed to passive and/or static stretching? From what I understand, there's a lot of isometric stretching prescribed in Scott Stevenson's "Fortitude Training" bodybuilding program (labeled "extreme stretching") which is supposed to have similar effects to blood flow restriction training. Sounds kind of intriguing.
Trying really hard to get better sleep. I try to have 4 protein feedings a day with 40g of protein each. My 4th feeding is a protein shake before bed. My schedule allows me to eat the third meal at the earliest 6pm. At 9 I have my shake and go to bed. But this does make me wake up 1-2 times a night to go pee. Any advice? Sleep more important than the shake?
To chime in on the “why are we stronger with higher BF%?” -What got you to that higher %? -Caloric surplus and high macros most likely. -So I don’t think it’s the extra fat, I think it’s the extra recovery aiding the progressive overload. Thought?
Don't forget how fat aides cushioning in multi-joint movements. For example, at the bottom of the squat extra adipose tissue around the knee and hip joints will provide cushioning the same way that knee sleeves do. More dispersion of weight across the body as well.
But in response to the original comment - most definitely helps. You'd have to compare individuals who are maintaining at a high body weight/bf% compared to those in the progress of gaining weight at a high bf%
If you have a sufficient calories around the workout.. including a post- workout shake.. how can moderate intensity cardio post workout possibly affect gains? I don't care about burning fat.. I'm already lean.. I do it for heart health
As far as the science research reading goes my anecdotal experience is that I have a lot of other research study interests so when I am reading it’s not generally sports science literature. I listen to you guys to get my fill on some concepts to chew on while I lift or walk. I probably average 15+ hrs of research reading a week but it ranges from neuroscience, heatshock proteins, inflammatory pathways, epigenetics, and drug/supplement pharmacology. I don’t think your audience isn’t engaged in science so much as they trust in your abilities to convey the applicable information.
On the point of "don't drink too much water before you sleep", I legitimately wake up a few nights a week feeling thirsty as hell, so much that I am too uncomfortable to fall asleep again. Then I will go on a "water binge" and chug down 1L in one go and it feels amazing. But then I've obviously screwed myself over because in 2h I will be up again to go to the bathroom. :(
White Noise for sleeping! Blocks out ambient noises much better and I sleep longer and harder with white noise. I believe research backs this up, don’t have a citation. Started using it when I had kids and it works well for them and me. Try it, it works fairly well.
Also a warm shower helps with falling sleep. Some research shows that core body temp decreases, like at night or after a warm shower, helps to induce sleep.
As I understand it, the dreamer bulk you're mentioning here is literally stuffing your face and maybe people don't need to do exactly that, but I do believe some people need to try to be in a pretty big surplus (around 1kg per month at least) for a longer period of time (over a year) at some point, preferably at the beginning of the "lifting years" to really squeeze those baby gains. And also, it doesn't need to be neccesarily dirty bulk but just to eat a lot of "healthier" foods like, vegetables, fruits, nuts, rice, potatoes (not fried), legumes, meats, eggs (and whatever is ok for the individual). But of course, not to be in like 1000kcal calorie surplus... I did the real dreamer bulk when I was 17.... for the first 3 months most of the "gains" just went on my stomach lol
Re science and the problem of interpreting it. Science is just refined empirical experience. There is a technical threshold for full comprehension many won’t be able to meet in a given field. I’m trained in neuroscience and philosophy but I couldn’t go through the exercise literature and be able to know what’s quality or not without someone more savvy such as yourself to clue me in. I think short of being superhuman and able to process all of this info we must resort to appeal to authority, which is all peer review ultimately is. The crap research will eventually get falsified if science is doing its job. And if history is any guide even the high quality contributions will eventually be shown to be wrong as well, as a superior theory supplants and explains the data better. It’s always a work in progress and it’s important understand and accept he limits of what science can do.
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lol this podcast has become my bedtime ritual.
Me too!
Just the other day I was thinking about how none of today's fitness world probably knows of terms like dreamer bulk lol. Glad to see old school terms still kicking around
Some are stronger at 20% bf? >rippetoeing intensifies
Wasn't "Dreamer" the username of someone in the bodybuilding.com forums (probably the Misc section) that did this kind of bulk, hence the name? Not really sure though...
And thank you Greg for asking that question @17:50. Always wondered about that.
I think the reason you can lift more when your fatter is cuz the ROM decreases and it can function as a spring on certain lifts
I like Menno Henselmans article about stretching - it matches my own experience well. Do stretching or ART to get into comfortable ROM before training. Do resistance training with full ROM for each muscle - and this is what will actually restructure the tissue into a better configuration (adequately flexible, less 'trigger points'). I've replaced deadlifts with Romanians - and added overhead shrugs and hip abductions to properly train muscles that were sensitive (for me at least) to spasming at random times - and that stopped it happening.
I'm a Romanian and I feel offended by this comment.
Really appreciated the pros and cons of utilizing a rapid rate of weight gain question. I'm currently experimenting the "all-in" approach as I've always been lean and I'm genuinely curious if I've held my full potential back all these years.
Could you share how your experience went? Thanks
"I'm being a good boy, I sleep at least six nights a week" 😂 And here I was thinking I had weird sleep habits!
JM & Dave Tate discussed the JM Blakely diet a few years back. They then also discussed how JM went back down to the 220 class within that same year. Caloric resteiction and increased activity is all he boiled it down to. He's a very interesting follow on any social.
But yah he didn't go 181 to 308, back to 181. He went 181 to 308 back to 220. Within a year lol.
Has there been any research on the effect of isometric stretching on resistance training as opposed to passive and/or static stretching?
From what I understand, there's a lot of isometric stretching prescribed in Scott Stevenson's "Fortitude Training" bodybuilding program (labeled "extreme stretching") which is supposed to have similar effects to blood flow restriction training. Sounds kind of intriguing.
Really enjoyable and informative podcast! Great job
I believe in you Derrick.
Trying really hard to get better sleep. I try to have 4 protein feedings a day with 40g of protein each. My 4th feeding is a protein shake before bed. My schedule allows me to eat the third meal at the earliest 6pm. At 9 I have my shake and go to bed. But this does make me wake up 1-2 times a night to go pee. Any advice? Sleep more important than the shake?
To chime in on the “why are we stronger with higher BF%?” -What got you to that higher %? -Caloric surplus and high macros most likely. -So I don’t think it’s the extra fat, I think it’s the extra recovery aiding the progressive overload. Thought?
*thoughts?
Don't forget how fat aides cushioning in multi-joint movements. For example, at the bottom of the squat extra adipose tissue around the knee and hip joints will provide cushioning the same way that knee sleeves do. More dispersion of weight across the body as well.
But in response to the original comment - most definitely helps. You'd have to compare individuals who are maintaining at a high body weight/bf% compared to those in the progress of gaining weight at a high bf%
If you have a sufficient calories around the workout.. including a post- workout shake.. how can moderate intensity cardio post workout possibly affect gains? I don't care about burning fat.. I'm already lean.. I do it for heart health
Fat joints are stable joints, it's like having built in elbow sleeves
why strong when fat ? ... ROM ? leverages ?
As far as the science research reading goes my anecdotal experience is that I have a lot of other research study interests so when I am reading it’s not generally sports science literature. I listen to you guys to get my fill on some concepts to chew on while I lift or walk. I probably average 15+ hrs of research reading a week but it ranges from neuroscience, heatshock proteins, inflammatory pathways, epigenetics, and drug/supplement pharmacology. I don’t think your audience isn’t engaged in science so much as they trust in your abilities to convey the applicable information.
On the point of "don't drink too much water before you sleep", I legitimately wake up a few nights a week feeling thirsty as hell, so much that I am too uncomfortable to fall asleep again. Then I will go on a "water binge" and chug down 1L in one go and it feels amazing. But then I've obviously screwed myself over because in 2h I will be up again to go to the bathroom. :(
White Noise for sleeping! Blocks out ambient noises much better and I sleep longer and harder with white noise. I believe research backs this up, don’t have a citation. Started using it when I had kids and it works well for them and me. Try it, it works fairly well.
Also a warm shower helps with falling sleep. Some research shows that core body temp decreases, like at night or after a warm shower, helps to induce sleep.
Didn't Schoenfeld use volume-load for his study comparing sets of 3 to sets of 10?
Liposomal contractile fibers, yet to be discovered. Keep searching
Anyone recommend an ideal biomechanics text book to get started?
Feats of strength on Ross Edgley!
As I understand it, the dreamer bulk you're mentioning here is literally stuffing your face and maybe people don't need to do exactly that, but I do believe some people need to try to be in a pretty big surplus (around 1kg per month at least) for a longer period of time (over a year) at some point, preferably at the beginning of the "lifting years" to really squeeze those baby gains.
And also, it doesn't need to be neccesarily dirty bulk but just to eat a lot of "healthier" foods like, vegetables, fruits, nuts, rice, potatoes (not fried), legumes, meats, eggs (and whatever is ok for the individual). But of course, not to be in like 1000kcal calorie surplus...
I did the real dreamer bulk when I was 17.... for the first 3 months most of the "gains" just went on my stomach lol
The waiting until you're tired advice is awful for anyone without a normal circadian rhythm who has a job with normal hours.
Re science and the problem of interpreting it.
Science is just refined empirical experience.
There is a technical threshold for full comprehension many won’t be able to meet in a given field. I’m trained in neuroscience and philosophy but I couldn’t go through the exercise literature and be able to know what’s quality or not without someone more savvy such as yourself to clue me in.
I think short of being superhuman and able to process all of this info we must resort to appeal to authority, which is all peer review ultimately is. The crap research will eventually get falsified if science is doing its job.
And if history is any guide even the high quality contributions will eventually be shown to be wrong as well, as a superior theory supplants and explains the data better. It’s always a work in progress and it’s important understand and accept he limits of what science can do.
37:55 cue the Kevin Gates music
Inb4 Big Acupuncture sues Stronger by Science.
Even Greg makes fun of Men's Physique...
Eric: allergy nasal spray like Flonase?
Temp co host is right. I aint reading shit.
well im the first like
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