Ironic that Narcissus' character art isn't done yet. Picturing his ghost hovering over the model artist's shoulder like "Start again, not handsome enough!"
Gotta say, it's a pure joy and really awesome to see you going to attack one enemy in Erebus, pausing to briefly smack a tree behind you in order to kill an enemy somewhere back there before smoothly continuing on to bash the one in front of you. I've yet to see a runner do that and it's so cool every time you do!
am I the only one that saw some kind of wings when Chronos spoke to Melinoe after she finished the asphodel challenge?? also what a great way to use old assets from Hades in the new game, I can already picture Mel getting teleported to the house of Hades and interacting with some twisted versions (that Chronos created to get in her head) of the Underworld family
These are great ideas and I do think we'll get glimpses of the Underworld this way. Based off the trailer, we are going up on Olympus, not the Underworld. This was a way of shooting two birds with one stone. The wings, I might've missed.
Oh man, now that we know Chronos can take us to parts of the Underworld that Zagreus journeyed through in the past, I wonder if there's gonna be a weird situation where Melinoe runs into her own brother, who has no idea who she is since she hasn't been born yet.
That would be so interesting! If it's truly Zagreus she finds, he would hear her out and they could plot something together. Otherwise, it would just serve as a moment they could learn each other, very much like Zag's limited time in learning about his mother.
I can never tell what the heck is going on in Eris's head. She's not working for Kronos, but she thinks she's helping us? Then again, this is Eris. I might just be overthinking things.
Eris might be one of those people who thinks she's helping with what she does but still causes problems. In her mind maybe she frames it as "hardship allows people to become stronger", or something. Or she legitimately thinks her spells are helpful cuz that's just her logic.
@@sterlingglover7448 She could be delusional ^ Or she could be putting a similar test like Hecate, and if you can't pass Oceanus with her curse, then you're not ready.
From what was stablished, all children of Nyx serve the underworld one way or another. The way she phrases it, she isnt giving you "blessings" to spite Melinoë or because she works for Chronos, it may be more in like with "Strife makes people strong". She may sense when Mel is ready to face Chronos once and for all and maybe we arent yet ready. Her "blessings" ensure that what we arent just relying on the boons of the olympians but in our own skill too. Then again its _Eris_ so how can i be sure
On my break, thx for the advices. Either the band members can't die prior to Scylla going impervious, or they are just worth two Lernie's each. Either way, I wouldn't have felt convinced the band members were killable the way they were eating my attacks, appreciate it much!
LOL you're not the first about the hammer. But I take your point ^ they were rather necessary in Hades 1. They could be in Hades 2 as well, I just feel there's more weird hammer choices than a pom.
I don't think they'd make the second boss so mechanically heavy, it's similar to the hydra the main head spawns the others and becomes impervious until they're defeated and you can resume. It's most likely the same here, she goes clam mode and you defeat her bandmates first.
That makes the most sense now in hindsight ^ They're definitely more tankier than the baby hydra heads. I felt my build on the second run was peak with the heart throbs, but they ate it all up and were still up to fight. I came to the conclusion that they had no health bar, silly me.
If Nemesis has the sword, and Eris the gun… does that mean we might see Talos with the gauntlets? Or even Achilles getting the spear back or Chaos weilding their Shield?
i think you defeat scylla's band members first before you can defeat scylla herself. she's 1/8 health when scylla's the only one left. saw it on others runs here in youtube.
@@ronaldbernadas Yeah I don't think they'd make the second boss so mechanically heavy, it's similar to the hydra the main head spawns the others and becomes impervious until they're defeated and you can resume. It's most likely the same here, she goes clam mode and you defeat her bandmates first.
I believe you're right, I'll give it a try. I was thrown off that it had no health bar and it soaked a lot of my attacks. I didn't want to practice the definition of insanity. Appreciate the hint!
@@Hamstir4 managed a win yesterday - they are 3 characters, each with their own hp - but I instinctively focused the guitarist siren first, then the drummer, then the songstress. The third Boss is a beast, though
@@dmytroshulga4578 sick! This boss fight is really fun, I’m glad there’s different battles with each members taking up their solos. I had a similar result with the wand. Oh boy, the wand is a weird one.
Yes, similar to how last game, Hermes was part of the scheme with Charon but Olympus had no idea Hermes was involved. Now we have Artemis on board with secret team in Hades 2.
@@Hamstir4 Just saw another playthrough. Now, she will probably have different types, but in one particular playthrough, it was “Your foes deal +20% damage. This increases each encounter.” I think this is Eris’ way of encouraging you to step up on your dodging. The multiple AOE attacks in Oceanus is crazy, so the game is trying to teach you to dodge more.
@@couragew6260 that's really cool if that's the case. I already feel the difficulty increased significantly compared to Hades' Asphodel. The Region 2 for each game is not equivalent and I like it. I think Supergiant is pushing the difficulty up, but also is pushing what these Arcana buffs can do as well.
Calling it now! Narcissus is gonna be a jock character! At *least* the kind of high school jock jerky boys in those stupid movies. Double points if they give hime an undercut LMAO! /J
I can totally see that. Him going "Dummy" fits that. I'll be back here to see if you're right. Honestly, I thought the covered robes was fitting, if Narcissus was trying to hide from his suitors.
I have! I’m at work atm, but I’ve play two more runs and they’re rendered as we speak. Runs are taking an hour long now, so upload speeds have slowed down as a result. It’s been taking like half a day to get them out lol. Thx for waiting and I think you’ll be pleased where I left off.
Based off my run 2, which was my best build, it didn't look like they were phased by the numbers I was putting. I thought I was missing something lol. At the very least, I have their attack pattern down haha.
I noticed that on my 4th run lol, after learning the attack patterns. If we were to compare to Lernie, every head had their own health bar. Even Theseus and the Minotaur had two separate health bars. This is the first where they all share health, which makes sense as three bars would be much on the screen. And mechanically seems different than just a mere health. It’s to trigger their solo.
True, ig I couldn’t help but add captions for some real-time thoughts. Last time I had questions asked and it was hard to address them without any, so I thought the captions would remedy some of that. When I meant by No Commentary, I meant no voice over. Hope the captions aren’t too annoying, I do try to limit them.
Ironic that Narcissus' character art isn't done yet. Picturing his ghost hovering over the model artist's shoulder like "Start again, not handsome enough!"
LOL the high standards to draw Narcissus. But I mean, they can do Aphrodite, they can nail Narcissus.
"I SAID HOTTER!"
Honestly, I hope they don't actually draw him so that it's entirely up to the imagination
@@someoneawesome8717 Or at least keep his face obscured by the hood, yeah.
My guy straight up started mining during the Hecate fight lmfao
The urge is there and it will get me killed one day.
watching these runs like its a tv show
Just like that, you have me flattered Corvi. I'll try not to keep you in suspense.
Gotta say, it's a pure joy and really awesome to see you going to attack one enemy in Erebus, pausing to briefly smack a tree behind you in order to kill an enemy somewhere back there before smoothly continuing on to bash the one in front of you. I've yet to see a runner do that and it's so cool every time you do!
My neurons are activating as you're describing. It really is satisfying ^ and thanks for flattering me
@@Hamstir4 Haha, it was truly the purest sense of "Cool guys don't look at explosions" moment
@@shaelynmartin1996 this is exactly on my mind when I omega cast lol
I like how Scylla's singing is muffled when she's hiding in her shell
Supergiants with their details ^ easy pitch I’m sure
Also I was not expecting Narcissus to have such a deep voice. He's such a dick, I love him.
I love his vibe already, we need to get this guy a mirror.
am I the only one that saw some kind of wings when Chronos spoke to Melinoe after she finished the asphodel challenge?? also what a great way to use old assets from Hades in the new game, I can already picture Mel getting teleported to the house of Hades and interacting with some twisted versions (that Chronos created to get in her head) of the Underworld family
These are great ideas and I do think we'll get glimpses of the Underworld this way. Based off the trailer, we are going up on Olympus, not the Underworld. This was a way of shooting two birds with one stone. The wings, I might've missed.
Oh man, now that we know Chronos can take us to parts of the Underworld that Zagreus journeyed through in the past, I wonder if there's gonna be a weird situation where Melinoe runs into her own brother, who has no idea who she is since she hasn't been born yet.
That would be so interesting! If it's truly Zagreus she finds, he would hear her out and they could plot something together. Otherwise, it would just serve as a moment they could learn each other, very much like Zag's limited time in learning about his mother.
@@Hamstir4 That would be SO FUN.
I can never tell what the heck is going on in Eris's head. She's not working for Kronos, but she thinks she's helping us?
Then again, this is Eris. I might just be overthinking things.
Eris might be one of those people who thinks she's helping with what she does but still causes problems. In her mind maybe she frames it as "hardship allows people to become stronger", or something. Or she legitimately thinks her spells are helpful cuz that's just her logic.
Speedrunner repression? She might be like *eight fucking bears* for all we know
I'm going to let Eris cook for now. Her playfulness is getting to me.
@@sterlingglover7448 She could be delusional ^ Or she could be putting a similar test like Hecate, and if you can't pass Oceanus with her curse, then you're not ready.
From what was stablished, all children of Nyx serve the underworld one way or another. The way she phrases it, she isnt giving you "blessings" to spite Melinoë or because she works for Chronos, it may be more in like with "Strife makes people strong". She may sense when Mel is ready to face Chronos once and for all and maybe we arent yet ready. Her "blessings" ensure that what we arent just relying on the boons of the olympians but in our own skill too. Then again its _Eris_ so how can i be sure
On my break, thx for the advices. Either the band members can't die prior to Scylla going impervious, or they are just worth two Lernie's each. Either way, I wouldn't have felt convinced the band members were killable the way they were eating my attacks, appreciate it much!
They are pretty sturdy, but not impossible to defeat first. The music even changes accordingly!
@@TheTrueCopyUniverse Looking back, that was so embarrassing of me. Oh well, live and learn.
29:54 lmao forget the fourth wall lol
I die a little inside every time pom is taken over hammer, purely because of how good hammers were in 1.
LOL you're not the first about the hammer. But I take your point ^ they were rather necessary in Hades 1. They could be in Hades 2 as well, I just feel there's more weird hammer choices than a pom.
I don't think they'd make the second boss so mechanically heavy, it's similar to the hydra the main head spawns the others and becomes impervious until they're defeated and you can resume. It's most likely the same here, she goes clam mode and you defeat her bandmates first.
That makes the most sense now in hindsight ^ They're definitely more tankier than the baby hydra heads. I felt my build on the second run was peak with the heart throbs, but they ate it all up and were still up to fight. I came to the conclusion that they had no health bar, silly me.
If Nemesis has the sword, and Eris the gun… does that mean we might see Talos with the gauntlets? Or even Achilles getting the spear back or Chaos weilding their Shield?
Seeing people with their signature weapons is a sight to behold. Shits about to go down.
@@Hamstir4 Oh, I certainly hope we don’t have to fight the giant robot…
I have a feeling that guy after the Hecate fight is Kronos, voice is similar to the one in the trailer, also alot of his lines discuss time.
It would make sense, Hades has a habit of dissing you whenever you clear a floor. This is probably Kronos's equivalent.
@@CamelofDestiny That may be what they're going for ^ its also a good way of reusing Hades 1 assets LOL
it actually directly calls him chronos at 19:50
0:24. His trident looks fierce and may uncle Poseidon protect Princess Melinoe.
Poseidon’s trident is iconic and powerful.
i think you defeat scylla's band members first before you can defeat scylla herself. she's 1/8 health when scylla's the only one left. saw it on others runs here in youtube.
maybe the band members buff her, so getting rid of them gets rid of scylla's impervious
@@ronaldbernadas Yeah I don't think they'd make the second boss so mechanically heavy, it's similar to the hydra the main head spawns the others and becomes impervious until they're defeated and you can resume. It's most likely the same here, she goes clam mode and you defeat her bandmates first.
I believe you're right, I'll give it a try. I was thrown off that it had no health bar and it soaked a lot of my attacks. I didn't want to practice the definition of insanity. Appreciate the hint!
@@Hamstir4 managed a win yesterday - they are 3 characters, each with their own hp - but I instinctively focused the guitarist siren first, then the drummer, then the songstress.
The third Boss is a beast, though
@@dmytroshulga4578 sick! This boss fight is really fun, I’m glad there’s different battles with each members taking up their solos. I had a similar result with the wand. Oh boy, the wand is a weird one.
So both hermes and artemis was aware that the daughter of hades was alive but kept it a secret.
Yes, similar to how last game, Hermes was part of the scheme with Charon but Olympus had no idea Hermes was involved. Now we have Artemis on board with secret team in Hades 2.
So, what does Eris actually do to you? I know it’s probably a debuff or something really nasty, but what does she do exactly?
I'm not sure, I should've checked my boons stats, I'll do that next time.
@@Hamstir4
Just saw another playthrough. Now, she will probably have different types, but in one particular playthrough, it was “Your foes deal +20% damage. This increases each encounter.” I think this is Eris’ way of encouraging you to step up on your dodging. The multiple AOE attacks in Oceanus is crazy, so the game is trying to teach you to dodge more.
@@couragew6260 that's really cool if that's the case. I already feel the difficulty increased significantly compared to Hades' Asphodel. The Region 2 for each game is not equivalent and I like it. I think Supergiant is pushing the difficulty up, but also is pushing what these Arcana buffs can do as well.
@@couragew6260 That, and it's the game trying to tell you that you're getting too far, too fast. It's a great way to integrate it into the story, too!
i am eating these up
Same, Supergiant has us fed.
Calling it now! Narcissus is gonna be a jock character! At *least* the kind of high school jock jerky boys in those stupid movies.
Double points if they give hime an undercut LMAO! /J
I can totally see that. Him going "Dummy" fits that. I'll be back here to see if you're right.
Honestly, I thought the covered robes was fitting, if Narcissus was trying to hide from his suitors.
Huh so homer is the narrator of this one
ALSO THE HIDE AND SEEK OH MY GODDDDD
The hide and seek was the cutest bonding between Hecate and lil Mel :')
19:31 THATS CHRONOS???????? Uh 🙄am I the only one getting soulsborne level boss vibes here or is it just me?
no you're not the only one, and it's concerning.
Have you played more runs since?
I have! I’m at work atm, but I’ve play two more runs and they’re rendered as we speak. Runs are taking an hour long now, so upload speeds have slowed down as a result. It’s been taking like half a day to get them out lol. Thx for waiting and I think you’ll be pleased where I left off.
you could still damage the other two sirens. idk why you stopped attacking
Based off my run 2, which was my best build, it didn't look like they were phased by the numbers I was putting. I thought I was missing something lol. At the very least, I have their attack pattern down haha.
There's nothing to be stumped on with Scylla and the Sirens. You can literally see the healthbar go down a little whenever you hit the bandmates.
I noticed that on my 4th run lol, after learning the attack patterns. If we were to compare to Lernie, every head had their own health bar. Even Theseus and the Minotaur had two separate health bars.
This is the first where they all share health, which makes sense as three bars would be much on the screen. And mechanically seems different than just a mere health. It’s to trigger their solo.
I thought there were no commentaries?
True, ig I couldn’t help but add captions for some real-time thoughts. Last time I had questions asked and it was hard to address them without any, so I thought the captions would remedy some of that. When I meant by No Commentary, I meant no voice over. Hope the captions aren’t too annoying, I do try to limit them.