Sentence Cards vs Vocab Cards: In-Depth Comparison

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  • @mattvsjapan
    @mattvsjapan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    Notes:
    -Learn how to make conditional note types in Anki here: docs.ankiweb.net/#/templates/generation?id=conditional-replacement
    -When I say “intermediate”, that would roughly correspond to Stage 2B/2C of Refold. Anything below that corresponds to what I refer to as “beginner”.
    -At Refold, after Stage 1, we don’t recommend putting full sentence translations on the back of cards. Moving away from translations will help you start to understand your target language IN your target language, without relying on your native language.
    -Correction: 11:03 should say “Vocab Card Cons”, not “Sentence Card Cons”

    • @The235Anil
      @The235Anil 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The video production value has been getting higher and higher lately!

    • @Samantha-eb3ii
      @Samantha-eb3ii 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      How can I make these cards? Do I need a file from a tv show or movie or does it work otherwise? My TL does not appear have any subtitle txt files online

    • @Makiaveliiste
      @Makiaveliiste 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      hi matt (or guys), how can one make an anki card type with a conditional word field ? Is it an add-on? 11:50

    • @mattvsjapan
      @mattvsjapan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Makiaveliiste You don't need an addon. You can learn how to do it here: docs.ankiweb.net/#/templates/generation?id=conditional-replacement

    • @Makiaveliiste
      @Makiaveliiste 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mattvsjapan Thank u !

  • @Mappooo
    @Mappooo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    I just want to thank you for giving me the confidence I needed to start to pursue a new language at an adult age, I've been studying Japanese now for a little over 6 months and met up with two japanese on working holiday in my country a few days ago, and we spoke for four hours in Japanese about all sorts of things, and I even expressed things that I didn't even know I could say them or how I had learned how to use the words. It was a magical experience to suddenly realize I could express myself somewhat fluently about all sorts of things from social problems to favourite dishes and work out routines.

    • @thedodoplayer8521
      @thedodoplayer8521 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      wait how did you learn so much in only six months thats crazy how many cards a day did you use on anki?

    • @Mappooo
      @Mappooo ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thedodoplayer8521 a long time ago now but I had a lot of spare time due to corona restrictions. I think I started with 20 cards a day of remember the Kanji and 40 cards a day of the 1000 most common words, where half of the cards were Japanese to english and the other half were english to Japanese.
      At some point I started adding my own cards and did 20 a day of that while I progressively reduced the amount of Daily cards if the other decks.
      Once I really got into the pace of things I did about 1 hour of Kanji a day(writing and reading), 40 minutes of vocabulary, 20 minutes of grammar and around 4-10 hours of immersion a day with reading, Listening and watching drama/anime.

    • @Mappooo
      @Mappooo ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@thedodoplayer8521i guess it is a bit misleading to say six months when I was studying many hours a day. While ut is true I did it in a short time frame, I had probably spent around 1000 hours with the language at the time.
      Since then I haven't put as much effort into actively 'trying' to acquire Japanese, which is a bit of a shame, but I still leisure read manga in Japanese and watch Japanese anime to retain my skills.

    • @thedodoplayer8521
      @thedodoplayer8521 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Mappooo ooo okk

  • @maxxrenn
    @maxxrenn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    Im fairly intrated at Matt scheduling the premier of this video at a time I was not available.

    • @sauceboss7165
      @sauceboss7165 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I see what you did there

  • @jasonzhang2643
    @jasonzhang2643 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    High-quality video with intuitive visualization.
    I am a native Mandarin speaker and it's great to see example with my mother tongue. Can't wait to see Matt do a show with Chinese .

    • @default632
      @default632 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Matt has been on a roll since he started learning another language.

    • @default632
      @default632 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I can't wait to see where he'll be after Mandarin. I'm guessing either a European language, or Arabic, or Korean. Most likely Korean.

    • @donpax8959
      @donpax8959 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@default632 he said on Patreon Q&A that he's not gonna learn another language after Mandarin. He said something like "I will master Mandarin, then I will use English, Japanese and Mandarin to communicate and bring value to this world" (I don't remember what exactly he said, but something like that)

    • @coconutpineapple2489
      @coconutpineapple2489 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I assum he learns easily, because there are many similar words Japanese and Chinese, plus word order is similar with English.

    • @victorbergman9169
      @victorbergman9169 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@coconutpineapple2489 a few similar words doesn't make it easy for him to learn Chinese. Seeing how he has learned Japanese though, he understands the work of learning a language. But he still needs to learn tones, Chinese characters etc.

  • @fedexman
    @fedexman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    Finally, some good old thumbnail ! Maybe we will have an anime upside down in the background. Actually, seeing you speaking is easier to follow what you are saying.
    Edit : I watched the video and this is top quality. I love this format very clear, and easy to follow

  • @themasked_senshi4521
    @themasked_senshi4521 3 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    Sentence cards are honestly the reason I remember so much of my vocabulary lol

    • @patatos879
      @patatos879 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      i probably would not be continuing learning the language if i did not know about sentence cards

    • @themasked_senshi4521
      @themasked_senshi4521 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@patatos879 fr

    • @JackLuong
      @JackLuong 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I switched from vocab to sentence card and I can remember double the words with less effort! with all the comprehension benefits

  • @faker_fakerplaymaker3614
    @faker_fakerplaymaker3614 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    that thumbnail. love it

  • @portt2569
    @portt2569 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    omg old thumbnails. matts back, boys

  • @icehound6763
    @icehound6763 3 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    Very Curious about this. Can't wait to watch it.

  • @cortcall6344
    @cortcall6344 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Livakivi a Estonian youtuber who does a lot of Japanese language videos described vocab cards as showing beginners a word so they know it exists. Sentence cards just allow you to learn a words meaning in context.

    • @hexamine666
      @hexamine666 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      in theory yes, in practice that's not the case at all. what I and apparently many other people as well have found is that with sentence cards, you will most of the time end up learning the sentence by certain cues, like the beginning of the sentence, the overall structure of it or very easy and familiar words that are contained within it. while you will know the meaning of the sentence with the help of these cues, you fail to learn the word that is actually the target of the i+1 sentence. by that I mean that you might as well completely blank out the target word of the sentence that you are trying to learn with it and still know what the sentence means, which as a result does nothing for you actually learning the word, especially if it's outside of this particular context.

    • @Gustash
      @Gustash 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@hexamine666I agree. This is why my preferred card format (at least what works for me) is a mix of both. On the front I have in a big font the vocab word, and I try to recall its meaning and reading by itself first. If I have trouble with it, I have a smaller font example sentence with the target word in it. That helps a lot for words that I haven’t quite internalised yet, and for disambiguating words that mean different things in different contexts.

  • @Livakivi
    @Livakivi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Thanks for the video, its especially useful since this exact topic has been on my mind recently! Was interesting hear to your take on this, I found it very rational and well thought out!

  • @petewilliamspete001
    @petewilliamspete001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Your production value has gone up by leaps and bounds! The consistent refold branding is amazing. I think that this will help bring more beginners to this platform.

  • @drauc
    @drauc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    This was definitely my experience as well, when trying to mine sentence cards before my vocabulary was large enough I just got overwhelmed in both trying to find sentences that were easy enough and contained my target word, or trying to comprehend sentences that were above my level but contained the word. I naturally switched to using text vocab cards just so that I could get something done and now I'm back to sentence cards.

    • @jahayrac8636
      @jahayrac8636 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Same.
      Loved vocab cards as a beginner. But as an intermediate I need more. I've edited my deck so that the focus is on the main vocab in question. But there is a sentence in smaller font below it. I try my best to read and know the meaning of the word/ reading and then if I can't remember then I read the sentence. If I still can't remember then naturally I fail the card. If I know it I have the option to just move on quickly.
      As I'm studying Japanese, I often know the meaning of the kanji but not the reading or vice versa. I only pass it if I know both and the cards are still immature. If they are rather mature and I know either the meaning or reading (with the later I'll know the gist of the sentence but may be off a bit with the meaning of the word) I just pass it if I want to, assuming I'll see it again in my immersion. Otherwise I'll fail it if I think it's a useful word that I want to remember.
      Both formats are useful but like Matt said, there's a time one could be better than the other. I appreciate the suggestion of a transition for learning new words. Also simply using the same tool differently depending on what you're trying to accomplish.

    • @tsnk9806
      @tsnk9806 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Guys, you really don't make reverse cards (your native language-> target language), and only doing "target language" -> "native language"?

    • @drauc
      @drauc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@tsnk9806 Some people do, but I think a majority of the refold community does it this way. Seeing your native language and recalling another language's word is active recall. I think for the refold approach we try and associate the meaning to the Japanese word, not making a connection to our native language but the raw idea itself.
      When you are speaking to someone you don't think of the word in your native language first then translate it to your target language and then say it, not usually anyways.
      Sorry if my explanation is bad but watch Matt's most recent video with Xiaoma they touch this topic a little.
      Edit: Neither way is wrong just do what you think is best

    • @tsnk9806
      @tsnk9806 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@drauc Thanks for your answer. And how about you? In this approach, have you any results that satisfy you?

    • @drauc
      @drauc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tsnk9806 Yes it's what I use and I've found a lot of success with it. Everyone is different though so I recommend going with what you think is best

  • @abdulallah7608
    @abdulallah7608 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    You offer more elucidating tutelage than most, I think: I appreciate that you avoid excessively cryptic prose, unlike some others in the community! Keep up the good work!

  • @attention8312
    @attention8312 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This video - 10/10 the editing is sick! I would love to see a progress video of your Chinese and how you make those amazing anki cards.

  • @kingwoodbudo
    @kingwoodbudo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like that you're adding more visual aspects to your presentation rather than just speaking directly to the camera. It makes for a more immersive experience.

  • @Tehui1974
    @Tehui1974 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Another good video. My experience with using flashcards for vocabulary is that some words will stick and most of the other words will still require me to encounter the word in multiple contexts through immersion (like the video says). I try not to spend too much time on the flashcards, and will spend way more time on immersion activities.

  • @Joel2Million
    @Joel2Million 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The part starting around 9 mins I am so glad to hear put into words. I abstractly understood it but wasn't quite sure ;)

  • @レイジーレーザー
    @レイジーレーザー 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I just realised that "intration" is basically an English version of 逆ギレ.

    • @silentkiller2mm
      @silentkiller2mm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I think matt uses 逆ヒレ in an older video too. Some kind of continuous MattVsJapan Universe haha

    • @mattvsjapan
      @mattvsjapan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      They're actually different! For 逆ギレ, the person isn't aware that they have no right to be angry. For intration, the person is aware.

    • @レイジーレーザー
      @レイジーレーザー 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@mattvsjapan Ah okay gotcha! In all seriousness Intration is actually a pretty good idea for a new English word.

    • @default632
      @default632 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sandwichbreath0 Not enough of a word to be listed in Merriam Webster

    • @liz257
      @liz257 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I cant believe we don't already have a word for this concept its pretty useful

  • @jamjunctionfm
    @jamjunctionfm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Matt that thumbnail brought back so many good nostalgic memories!! Yes mate

  • @MasacoteSenpai
    @MasacoteSenpai 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow, this is the best video I've seen about sentence & vocab cards. I'll definitely be sending it to some friends next time I'm trying to explain what sentence cards are. Thanks for the great content Matt !

  • @MrKeepItTrill
    @MrKeepItTrill 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great video! I personally use a mix of maybe 75% vocab cards 25% sentence cards and it has worked well for me so far. I have just one point to make regarding your section on review time: Personally for a majority of my vocab card reviews I don't look at the definition or sentence, because I know the word - I just mash enter twice and move on to the next card. So those ones really do take only as long as it takes me to recognize the word, ie maybe a second or two. I don't feel like I'm losing out on anything by not reading the sentence, because I can use that time to do actual reading.

  • @fancywrong6405
    @fancywrong6405 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Honestly "intration" is a pretty useful concept

  •  3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video Matt! I'm really enjoying sentence mining and just Anki reviewing in general, so it's nice to see another video on that topic!

  • @alexandrevidao981
    @alexandrevidao981 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Matt,
    Don't know if you'll respond or even see this, but I'm an American who has reached native level fluency in Brazilian Portuguese using the mass immersion approach that you used to talk about before refold. I was surprised you didn't mention the most obvious and useful version of vocab cards: an image on the front of the card (usually a concrete noun like you mentioned) and the word representing that image in your target language on the back of the card. If I want to say "elephant" in my target language, the first thing that's gonna come to my mind is an image of an elephant and then (if i want to communicate "elephant" to others) I will have to remember the word for elephant in my target language. In this way, this style of vocab mimics real life recall. It also gets rid of the ambiguity of words with multiple definitions. If I place a picture of bark on the front, there's no way of getting confused with a dog's bark.

    • @yuu-727
      @yuu-727 ปีที่แล้ว

      oloco tu é fluente mesmo?

  • @miinintapple
    @miinintapple 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for such a great video! Gave me plenty of good things to think about! Appreciate all the help!

  • @chadbailey7038
    @chadbailey7038 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Such a valuable video. Thanks for the effort in making this 🙌🏾 ⚡️

  • @95fyken
    @95fyken 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really good video !! Also cool that you are learning mandarin 👍 nice to see you learning a new language

  • @default632
    @default632 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks a lot for this.
    I was having nightmare about what sort of card to use.

  • @kohakuhunter
    @kohakuhunter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you so much for this! Could you do a video on how to make card types with the conditional word field and pretty colors?

  • @mauricenengasca1082
    @mauricenengasca1082 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm just starting to learn my third language which is Japanese, and in my case I definitely remembered the words I want to remember using sentence cards rather than vocab cards, cause I tried using vocab cards for a month and I find it hard to remember the target words, unlike when I started using Sentence cards. Though I have started studying last month, I decided to drop my old ways,(textbook type) when I learned about immersion learning.

  • @ky_jellybean
    @ky_jellybean 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome video, Matt! I started making vocab cards along with my sentence cards recently for words with short/clear definitions. Was wondering if that was a wise decision. Your thoughts/explanations always help me feel like the time I’m spending on language learning will pay off!

  • @マックス-g4c
    @マックス-g4c 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    For every new word I use both types. A vocab card and as many sentence cards for every meaning i want to learn. It works best for me. All dictionary definitions are inserted in the vocab card but I mainly focus on remembering those for which I have a sentence card too.

  • @erenparla3869
    @erenparla3869 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just found your channel. I absolutely love it!

  • @josiahspencer
    @josiahspencer ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much this was so helpful!!

  • @Jordan69xx
    @Jordan69xx 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video. thanks for giving a useful and informative analysis

  • @Mati1242
    @Mati1242 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was waiting for such video for a long time since I myself struggle to choose between the two.

  • @Kallysta_
    @Kallysta_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice video! Thanks!
    I personally use vocab cards for simple object-oriented nouns such as "dog" or "tree" and sentence cards for everything else. Because, for example, abstract things like "impression" or "willpower" seem ok when I created the card, but then after a week or so I just have no idea what exactly was that definitely easy thing)
    For both types I never use an audio or pictures. Instead I put source name on the front of the card separated by a new line, like this:
    ぼ。ぼくは。 断[だん]じて! 教授と ” 言[い]い 争[あらそ]い” なんて、やってない!
    大逆転裁判

  • @alxjones
    @alxjones ปีที่แล้ว

    In the beginning, instead of using vocab cards, I've found that putting the target word on the front with the sentence is a bit better. Of course, this is with the understanding that getting the word is the goal, rather than the sentence, but the sentence can still be attempted before knowing the answer. This gives you a chance to practice reading sentences from the get-go, and often you don't need to be able to read every word to understand a sentence enough to get a feel for how a word is used. You also will pick up vocabulary that is commonly used in practice sentences automatically, even if it's not a target word (yet). This method essentially removes the cons of vocab cards when the sentence can be mostly understood, and is a built-in transition to using pure sentence cards when you get to the point where that's feasible.

  • @mysteriouslenny5021
    @mysteriouslenny5021 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    After close to 2 years of using ajatt/mia, I've found both to be benefitical. Although, over the last 6 months, I've been making audio/vocabulary cards. I find them much better for new words compared to sentence cards. That isn't to say sentence cards aren't good, they are very good for some situations, but I personally prefer vocabulary cards now.

    • @kougamishinya6566
      @kougamishinya6566 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same. You end up hearing the audio so many times that as soon as you see the word you can hear it playing in your head. If I had the sentence on the front I wouldn't get the same effect. I've memorised half the lines in a whole anime just due to repping it in Anki lmao.

  • @ramiellogarius4936
    @ramiellogarius4936 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Very curious about you mandarin progress 👀

  • @Kestrel16C
    @Kestrel16C 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Perfect timing (almost). I noticed how I was often using sentence cards to infer from context and felt like I was cheating. Therefore I have been thinking about using single word cards instead.

    • @Kestrel16C
      @Kestrel16C 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Alright. I'm just gonna keep using sentence cards in general, but if the contextual clue for a given word is too big or if the word is a simple one meaning word without a complex definition I'm going to make vocab cards instead.

    • @Kestrel16C
      @Kestrel16C 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Pierre Robin I was worried that having sentences that make inferring from context too easy would result in less focus on the word itself and therefore not being able to recognize it in a different context. After this video I'm more optimistic that this shouldn't be a huge problem tho.

  • @smk7500
    @smk7500 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was thinking about the differences recently so interesting coincidence that this video came out recently. Really helpful, especially the ability to create conditional Anki note types so I can make both kinds of cards. That’s really cool to me

  • @jamesstramer5186
    @jamesstramer5186 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is absolute gold!

  • @JacksonTongEnglishImmers-oz5ey
    @JacksonTongEnglishImmers-oz5ey 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When could I hear you speak Mandarin, I expect your Mandarin will make me amazed!

  • @WavysWay
    @WavysWay 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Incredible content. Thank you.

  • @bakugameplays
    @bakugameplays 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I literally made a post of this question in Reddit like 1 or 2 days ago. Lmaooo, nice video!

  • @DANGJOS
    @DANGJOS 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    A good example is やっぱり. It was basically useless me looking it up and making an vocab Ankicard for it. Too many meanings that are very context based. Wasn't until I watched a video by a native speaker explaining it that I had at least a reasonable idea of its meaning.

    • @default632
      @default632 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      やっぱりまちがっていません

  • @nicklei369
    @nicklei369 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I prefer vocab cards over sentence cards. As you have already mentioned in your video, the sentence cards are too easy as they give you hints by already providing the necessary context. Of course, context is always crucial when studying vocab in general but our brain being a pattern-recognizing machine will take advantage of this.
    I am a native German speaker and wanted to improve my English. I always had a pretty natural feeling with my grammar usage, listening capabilities were excellent but producing the language was always my biggest flaw. My vocab was super limited and I essentially sounded like a 5-year-old when I tried to speak, even though my overall understanding of the language was nearly perfect.
    The only way to address this issue was by using vocab cards, but having the German word on the front and the English (target) translation on the back of the card.
    Having "mastered" my English I moved on. Currently, I'm into Korean and I'm trying to apply the same strategy. Interestingly, this time I am facing the opposite problem. While my speaking skills are actually not that bad, my listening skills are lacking quite a bit. This sorta one-way style of studying probably wasn't the best idea haha. However, I feel that now I have to put in way less work that had to do with English. Improving my listening is simply done by - surprise - listening, which can be quite enjoyable. Cramming in vocab like a maniac on the other hand - less of an enjoyable experience.

  • @paulwalther5237
    @paulwalther5237 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    To rep vocab cards more quickly, you need to not read the sentence on the back unless you think you need to because you forget how the word is used. Yeah, a shortcut that maybe you shouldn't be taking but it is a time saver. And I can say from experience, depending on my motivation to study, sometimes I need that shortcut or I won't do my Anki reps at all. I've gone through different phases over the years switching between vocab and sentence cards. At the moment I'm using a sentence card deck. It has native audio for the sentences which makes doing the reps much more rewarding. I think without the native audio I'd probably burn out and have to switch back to vocab cards. I actually went way overboard and hired some voice actors through a website to record a bunch of Korean sentences for me to spice up my Anki deck. Way too expensive but if I get through this sentence deck thanks to them, I'll call it even and money well spent after all. (Although native audio from TV/Movies is also good, it's a lot harder to understand)

  • @JustinArmstrongsite
    @JustinArmstrongsite 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. I more or less agree with everything. An additional benefit of sentence cards is that it really focuses you to choose only low-hanging fruit for your cards. Since you're only learning "easy" sentences, it drastically whittles down what vocab you might potentially put into Anki.
    I guess hypothetically you could make vocab cards out of low-hanging fruit sentences, but since it's not as crucial, I could see how sentences that are too difficult could end up in your deck.

  • @paulwalther5237
    @paulwalther5237 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Also I just wanted to point out a small observation I've made myself regarding the two formats. Sentence cards really shine if you want to speak the language using the words correctly in a proper context (duh, right?), but if you just care about understanding, then you can get away with vocabulary cards. You don't need to really know the precise context of a word, just its general meaning to understand it when used in context. But you miss out on the benefit you get from reviewing the word in a proper context and the colocation over and over via Anki. I've told myself that I'll just get the context and colocation through immersion and I think sometimes I will but sometimes not. Probably not more often than I will if the word isn't too common.

  • @IronPrimeAristos
    @IronPrimeAristos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great analysis Matt! Sentence cards are way superior imho, but vocab cards have their place (irregular kanji readings etc.) You can also get a few reps easily while doing other things since they don't require your full attention. I m curious about your thoughts on Core2k/6k/10k decks, since they are already premade, and they are a combination of Vocab, Sentence and Audio cards, allowing you to review them in any fashion you like. You must be familiar with them and I would like to hear your opinion! Thanks for the great video!

  • @ichoniha7896
    @ichoniha7896 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I want "intration" to be an actual word, I love it.

  • @hughamogus
    @hughamogus ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Intration is such a great word

  • @ahboogle
    @ahboogle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Having been doing production cards for over a year now, after watching this I am going to give comprehension cards a go. Production cards have given me a lot value, but on the other hand I feel like it takes ages to review stuff as recalling can take a long time and you can only add so many a day as you can only memorise so many new words.

    • @jamiekim6926
      @jamiekim6926 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, production cards create more powerful memories, more quickly, because you're active recalling the info. Comprehension cards are cool but you are just recognizing, essentially just a form of reading, it takes a lot more repetition to learn something through recognition (though people often feel like they're learning more). Tons of research on this showing effortful recall beats recognition for learning. Try the site Universe of Memory,

    • @default632
      @default632 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jamiekim6926 Producing what you can't recognize is pretty stupid. Production comes naturally, and can be improved by doing real production in real life, not anki.

    • @jamiekim6926
      @jamiekim6926 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@default632 Criticizing a point that you haven't even really attempted to understand is pretty stupid.
      After all, what could decades of research in learning and memory tell you? You know better than those idiots right? Carry on pal, good luck.

  • @gianlu6863
    @gianlu6863 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great analysis, I came exactly to the same conclusions as yours.

  • @sshouqq
    @sshouqq 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was an amazing video thank you so much

  • @tiddlypom2097
    @tiddlypom2097 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love O2O (微微一笑很倾城) 😍 I've been loving Chinese dramas.
    I'm a beginner, but inspired by you a couple of years ago to watch shows

  • @jaylen_1370
    @jaylen_1370 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The thumbnail is on point

  • @celebezz
    @celebezz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yeah I started with vocab cards, 1 card per word... I was writing how many meanings each word hard in brackets as a hint. So I had cards like "Draft (7)" or "Hitch (5)" and I had to list all of the meanings each time. Needless to say that many of my cards became leeches quickly lol. Good thing I only added around 600 cards so it's not as painful to now redo them as sentence cards.

  • @stef2006101
    @stef2006101 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really curious to see this, as I've been doing a combination of the two ( words in context sort of approach ), and have seen great results so far with much better retention. Feels easier to understand a word when you also understand the sentence it's in

  • @rom8835
    @rom8835 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    最近見始めました!今は日本の大学でロシア語やってるので言語学習の共通点があって面白いです!
    今まであった日本語学習者の中でダントツな日本語アクセントだと思ったので、たまに聞きたいです笑

  • @lookwhoneedsahobbie
    @lookwhoneedsahobbie 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always putting audio on the back of my vocab cards has helped my listening skills immensely. I almost won't make a card if I can't find audio for it.

  • @javiervsenglish823
    @javiervsenglish823 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Bro, your videos help me with English and Japanese, Nice video. Greetings from Mexico 😁

  • @wieb9574
    @wieb9574 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Had this recently with some english keywords I was learning for kanji while I put them in vocab cards, and just could not grasp why exactly I wasn't understanding the word after so many reviews. Makes so much sence now.

  • @vendingservices8900
    @vendingservices8900 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    With Refold Spanish cards, I have trouble recalling the meanings of the more abstract words, rather than objects like ‘leaf’ or ‘grass’.
    That being said, I realize when I hear the words ‘soler’ while immersed, I have no trouble recalling.
    Now it makes sense to me. Vocab cards vs sentence cards.

  • @bunnyteeth365
    @bunnyteeth365 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think if you're learning a non-European language vocab cards at the beginning make more sense. If you're learning a European language I think sentence cards can still work at the beginning. It isn't too hard to find sentences where only one word is completely unfamiliar.

  • @FlowUrbanFlow
    @FlowUrbanFlow 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I use a deck that has vocab and sentence cards for each word,and audio. I use them all as vocab cards (double drilling) but could start using the sentences whenever I'd like

  • @yosoymeyes
    @yosoymeyes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    👀☕🇧🇷 Ahahahaha i really love this thumbnail haha. Can't wait to watch it. また後で.

    • @matssous
      @matssous 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hue Hue BR

  • @jeffersonjunio6231
    @jeffersonjunio6231 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great!!! The question:
    When learning new words with different meanings, would be better to learn their multiple meanings or at least some of them, or would be better to grasp only one definition at once and keep going until you stumble upon the same word in another context?

  • @aravindk4967
    @aravindk4967 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    At 11:03, isn't the slide supposed to say "Vocab Card Cons"?

  • @witchinghour-i2g
    @witchinghour-i2g 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been wanting to know how you recall monolingual card definitions ever since you posted the first view on how to review cards so I'm happy to get an answer and agree with what you said. If I can't find an example sentence for a monolingual card I need to make though I usually just find the closest English definition though since it saves all the hassle and I feel like I still recall the word in the long run

  • @pathologicpicnic
    @pathologicpicnic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think sentence cards are better for beginner's but vocab cards are better for intermediate+

  • @diariosdelextranjero
    @diariosdelextranjero 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Matt, I feel that cards don't give a cue to the meaning, but the card itself.
    I recently read an article on Chess Grandmasters remembering chess positions that made no sense in normal gameplay and they didn't do much better than an average person.
    I clearly remember a word used in a Skype session with a teacher that was part of my SRS deck whose meaning I forgot during the conversation.

  • @Tailacoster
    @Tailacoster 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The chad thumbnail

  • @sarah-louisesnodin6014
    @sarah-louisesnodin6014 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Jumped on the refold band wagon is great guidance and to keep on track with language learning. Not tried Anki. Currently using Fluent U. Are there any great german cards already made?

  • @elingranath
    @elingranath 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The vast majority of my cards are vocab cards because they are quickest to review but any time I run into a word that I already recognize BUT it's used with a different meaning than the one I know, I make that into a sentence card. For example when I ran into 構う with the unfamiliar meaning "to keep company", or one instance of 引っ掛かる meaning "to fall for a trick" and another meaning "to be on one's mind", I turned all of those into sentence cards and it has helped me remember the different usages really well.

  • @Ronlawhouston
    @Ronlawhouston 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I hate vocab cards. They stress me out. The lack of context means just strict memorization which my brain seems to want to resist.

  • @トゥルーマンチャンネル
    @トゥルーマンチャンネル 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    A sentence mining tutorial would be amazing 👏

  • @vivirock1155
    @vivirock1155 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    私も英語の勉強でアンキアプリ 使ってまーす。スキマ時間にちょこちょこ 復習できるからすっごく便利!!

  • @poshporo9097
    @poshporo9097 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wouldnt hover be like the best of both worlds, you could easily choose to just do vocab or sentence depending on if you were to hover over the word

    • @poshporo9097
      @poshporo9097 ปีที่แล้ว

      though this wouldnt work for context specific words like bark

  • @wamu5204
    @wamu5204 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rn I suck I'll come back in a year to see where I am, hopefully I'm fluent see you in 2023!

  • @sportsAndSongs
    @sportsAndSongs 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, Matt, thanks for the videos and all your teachings and inspiration, I am now learning (roughly 2 month in) japanese using your suggestion of input (listening and reading) + anki (vocab), i have a question about learning vocab. When I learn a new word like 上手[じょうず], it's sounds like the name "George" to me. Is it a good thing for me to use this type of mnemonics or should I avoid that way of memorizing as much as possible? (Would you suggest me to use any sort of mnemonic at all? Would that make things very unnatural since I would have to sort of go thru another room in my mind to extract that piece of information when I need to extract it?) Thanks a lot.

  • @gboundrapa
    @gboundrapa 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video as always! I'd like to ask you a question... What do you think about the book Remembering Simplified Hanzi?? I'm using Assimil and Anki to learn Chinese but I'm thinking of implementing this book as a supplement.

    • @tiddlypom2097
      @tiddlypom2097 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think he says somewhere else that he no longer recommends the Heisig books, but I could be wrong
      I have both the simplified and traditional hanzi books (changed my mind & decided to do traditional) but haven't made much progress. My working memory is bad so it's a real drag. Also I've seen comments from other people that used it that they got sick of it after about 500 characters.

  • @almapenada8528
    @almapenada8528 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In relation to vocab cards having the advantage of releasing the pressure of having to comprehend the entire sentence for beginners: that's nonsense. You just gotta change the way you're reviewing the sentence cards.
    In the beginning of my journey learning French, I used sentence cards even though I wasn't able to understand all of the words. I would simply highlight the word I wanted to learn. Even if you don't understand all of the words, the sonority of it and some particular words you might know in the middle can help you remember the word in question.
    Now, another thing. Truth is, I clicked the video because seeing the title, I thought you were going to address to something I'd been thinking about: when you can only remember the meaning of a word after reading the sentence, but the word itself doesn't strike familiar at all, do you mark it 'good', 'repeat', 'hard'?

  • @axyorifelheim3811
    @axyorifelheim3811 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can learn to recognize kanji with text vocab cards and text sentence cards which are comprehension cards, yes. The issue here is that you don't learn to hand write your kanji, whereas with production cards you can go through the process to learn how to write these kanji. This leads to my question: how do you guys learn to hand write? I just started learning Japanese 4 weeks ago, I also plan on learning how to write kanji while learning my vocabulary. I don't find it efficient to learn how to write kanji at the very end, I prefer to do it throughout the whole journey.

    • @chuuuu1131
      @chuuuu1131 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nobody learns to write kanji because it's basically useless. Even if you live in Japan, you'll rarely ever write kanjis.

  • @jordanm2984
    @jordanm2984 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ooooo I actually like the invention of intration.

  • @english3082
    @english3082 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have an "image vocab deck" for concrete nouns. I put a picture of, say, a brass knuckles, or a sloth, or a pegleg, or a pothole, you name it, on the front of the card, and the name of that thing in my target language on the back. It turns out it is a production card like you said, but it works very well for me, it's like a game. It's not so exhausting as the sentence deck. I just hate adjectives and verbs, and their long, abstract definitions.

    • @nailer1216
      @nailer1216 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Then what do you do if it’s a image that could be answered by multiple words? For example a picture of a police man could be paired with 警察 or 警官. Would you have multiple cards of policemen or multiple acceptable answers?

    • @english3082
      @english3082 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nailer1216 I would put a hint on the front, or the two words on the back. If I think it doesn't work well, I just make a sentence card for that one. I have two separate decks, one for concrete nouns and one for sentences.

    • @nailer1216
      @nailer1216 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@english3082 okay that makes sense and I didn’t realize you were saying you were using the vocabulary production deck with a sentence deck too.

  • @josiah2972
    @josiah2972 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    any tips on how to set up the conditional field to change from vocab card to sentence card?

  • @TravelingWithKiwi
    @TravelingWithKiwi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Matt if you don't mind, could you share the name of your Chinese vocab deck that shown in the video?

  • @jimmorrison2657
    @jimmorrison2657 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice one Matt.
    How important do you think it is to do audio cards?
    I mean cards with target language audio (not text) on the front.

    • @mars4485
      @mars4485 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Obv it would help to listen to audio as much as possible..

  • @morbidsearch
    @morbidsearch 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    When I first started doing sentence cards for Norwegian, I made the mistake of thinking it was okay to learn sentences where I knew all but one the words, regardless of whether I understood the rest of the words in that context. It got frustrating very fast

  • @Stifford123
    @Stifford123 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you reccomend a japanese sentance deck that looks like the one you have been diplaying as your examples? With furigana plz 🙏

  • @apprendrejaponaisavecanime423
    @apprendrejaponaisavecanime423 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    good ideas there

  • @SilentEdits
    @SilentEdits 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video, one question have that you didn’t really touch on in this video is, how complex or simple do you think you should make sentence cards. As you move into the advanced stages do you think that the sentence complexity should increase? Or should the sentences stay simple and just be complex enough to provide context to the key word? Hope that makes sense

  • @kritanta2332
    @kritanta2332 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Matt is it a good idea to use sentence banks combined with morphman or should I just make cards of what I find during my immersion?

  • @AmodeusR
    @AmodeusR 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have somethings to talk about Vocab cards, which makes it still relevant even in advanced studies.
    First of all, I think Vocab Cards do create stronger memories than Sentence C., but not to the point it's better or can replace SC.
    Our brains always want the shortest way to accomplish things so he can spend the less energy possible. The effect from this is getting "comfortable" with the enviroment we are, it includes the context created by the sentence for a vocab (what you addressed on the video), but also the anki itself becomes an enviroment which makes it easier to remember a card (That's why I would say, the faster you get a vocab out of Anki and bring it to "the real life", the better it will be).
    In this case, VC would still have this certain advantage. About what you said in the video, having a hard time recognizing something in the practice is, in fact, inevitable, but this effect tend to have greater chances of happening if the vocab in question was in a SC. Why? Because VCs don't give a context, learning the vocab itself, so we don't depend on the context we learned a vocab, but depend only on the vocab itself, hence being easier to remember.
    The second point I would like to talk about is more specific. I always thought and still think Japanese is a pretty unique language in the way we study it (in the perspective of a western person), because there are many more elements to be practiced and learned. In this case, VC gets revitalized by the fact that we need to recall not only the meaning of a word, but also its reading and recognizing the kanji (I would say recognizing is a thing by itself, since you need to properly remember the correct reading in the context of a word).
    In this case, VCs get a new function, not only working towards "vocab" but also other things as reading and kanji recognition, all together.
    As it is much more harder to recognize a kanji word when it's in a VC than in a SC, you also work more your brain because of it. Again, I wouldn't say it would or should replace SCs, but VC can be useful specially when used together with SC, and for longer periods than languages with a phonetic alphabet, I think.

  • @benjamintrefny4107
    @benjamintrefny4107 ปีที่แล้ว

    is it better to create your own language deck or just use one that already exists? And how should i decide what to transform into a flashcard?

  • @hugh6948
    @hugh6948 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wouldn't it make more sense to have the target language on the back of the card so you are at least giving yourself the chance to remember as opposed to automatically seeing it? Active recall yields much better results than passive recall (aka seeing the word straight away)