@Pink038 It can seem that way I know. They're only allowed a very limited number of flights between 11pm to 6am. If they break the limit they face hefty fines, but sometimes they have to clear a backlog of late night flights because of delays and may run over 11pm. Also, some direct long-haul flights arrive during the "quiet time" so this may be what you are hearing/seeing.
@leathermodelcuir It was badly explained but they didn't mean actually taking off in opposite directions, they meant departing aircraft following alternating departure routings after takeoff, so if flight 1 takes off from 27R and turns right after departure, flight 2 takes off 27R but turns left after departure.
@AirTCO I've flown to/from Boryspol a number of times, and while I understand that it may have a theoretical capacity of 90 flights per hour, as far as I am aware the terminal (even counting the new one) and ground operations probably couldn't handle the passenger numbers for that many flights! And they never seem to be very busy ;-)
@zaeemahmedabbasi Actually, Heathrow can only operate planes from 06:00 to 23:00 - due to noise level contraints - which is a total of just 17 hours, or 1020 minutes. So, it's less than a flight a minute.
Just to think, this was recorded years ago, since then, British Airways has build Terminal 5, Retired their 757's, brought more 777, Airbus's, and changed their livery, PLUS More flights have been added and passenger numbers have increased!
London: aside from LHR, London has four other airports, plus other small airstrips including an RAF base. And high altitude aircraft passing the UK, and lower aircraft from Europe. Plus choppers and local traffic. Bit scary.
It may be busy yes, but US ATC is far more significant, ATL and DFW both continuously run triple simultaneous arrivals, with a ground control that is harder to work than any control position in the world I'd say. Then you have ZNY airspace, three major airports all in the same virtually the same spot, the most complex airspace in the world.
Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport, Atlanta, Georgia, United States 2,700 Aircrafts Movement per day.. World's Busiest Airport... Largest number of passengers annually. (1998-present) Most arrivals and departures (operations) annually. (1999-2000, 2005-present).[6] In 2007, Hartsfield again set the world's record for most aircraft movements in one year with 994,346....
The caption at the start of the video talking about 1400 flights per day seems to imply that LHR has the most aircraft movements in the world. Nothing could be further from the truth. That accolade goes to Atlanta also with 950,000 movements per year (2600 per day). LHR is only in 13. position with 455,000 movements per year (1246 per day)
cant they make a new runway......i cant imagine if anything went wrong, it would be the deadliest aircrash....from where can we see this program in full?
If anything, the airport and airspace is just as much busier than when the video was released. Since then, Terminal 5A,B and C have been built, Terminal 2 Is being rebuilt and plans for the same for T1. New airlines have joined the airport as well as larger aircraft such as the A380 doing daily flights. As well as this, Heathrow are still pushing to try and get a 3rd runway, this is an airport showing no signs of slowing down!
Actually as everyone else is saying - London Heathrow is busier. It is the BUSIEST in terms of international passengers, it is one of the busiest in the world. It has only 2 runways whilst Atlanta has 4. No one outside of the US know of Atlanta, everyone knows Heathrow.
@steven8hamilton Actually the biggest airport in the world is going to be Dubai's Al Maktoum International because it has a capacity of 160 million and they have already started building that airport. New London airport would be 150 million "IF" they decide to even build it which is easily 10 years away.
@tithm9 I am pointing out that the proportions at the worlds major airports are dependent on different circumstances. Heathrow is big because London is world a centre. Atlanta is big only because Delta decided to put up stakes there. When Gateway gets built and replaces Heathrow it will be the biggest airport in no time, it will be around twice the size as Heathrow in terms of space and runways
(Part 1) Atlanta, Beijing & Chicago are all busier than Heathrow but what a lot of people don't understand is Heathrow is the most sought out airspace in the world. Heathrow has hit its max capacity and can't grow anymore because there's just no space to grow. If tomorrow, Heathrow decided to make a 8 runway airport with terminals the size of the new Dubai Al Maktoum Airport with a capacity of 160 million, those gates would be purchased by airlines and sold out in hours!
Someone probably already mentioned this before but the graphic showing how the arrivals and departures work (starting around 1.27) is wrong. Aircraft always take-off and land the same way, runway direction being decided based on the current wind direction. Therefore you wouldn't have the situation shown at 2.57.
Yeah,massive airport...i live in Galway,Ireland and use it a lot to connect onwards...its very well organised,apparently..at any one time during normal hours,there are at least 100,000 people inthe airport...that terminal 5 is now the single biggest building in the UK by square footage
@steven8hamilton I agree. As a FO who's been to ATL plenty of times, I can tell you there's nothing in ATL except Delta. Daxing will have 120-200 million. They don't really know if its going to be closer to the 120 or 200. The majority of that will be domestic traffic in China. As far as DXB goes, Its all intl traffic. It would be the biggest "INTL airport". I'm sure you read my comment on the Dubai Al Maktoum Video. DXB WILL take traffic away from other airports once EK gets their full orders.
Every busy airport says it is the busiest; much like every office or business you visit says, ''we are really busy, all the time; some staff are on leave, too". . Cheers. from del-boy.
amazing how many planes they take with only two runways, they have to make another one. i remember when i was there i sat myself where i could see when the plane touched down for landing, i swear that i could count 12 second and a plane would touch down. amazing what they do.
@tithm9 anyway that isnt the point, is Delta decided to move their hub to Jacksonville then over night Jacksonville would be the worlds largest airport and Atlanta would be a little second tier airport
Airplanes never take-off and land in opposite directions as shown in the animation in this video. They always head in the same direction (against the wind) for both.
@RamMohankumar It's busiest in domistic flights and because it's the hub of delta airlines the largest airline in domastic flights in the US, in addition some international flights. Population of the US is too much.. Atlanta just uses one airport for domestic and international flights.
60 traffic/hour? hm... In main airport of Ukraine Boryspol (KBP/UKBB) we also have 2 runways. Once, during very snowy day and lots of delays caused buy inappropriate RW conditions, one of its manager said, that our airport actually can handle 90 (ninety) traffic per hour, as KBP has exactly 90 stands. So now state aviation administration wants us (controllers) to be able to handle 90 landing/take-off operations per hour. with the same 2 runways)
maybe they do it once but here it shows it spirals like 6 times and i lived right under the heathrow holding pattern for landings for 13years and have never seen a plane make a full circle
Unless it is an emergency no aircraft land or take off between 11pm and 6am, plenty of time for maintenance. It's a shame the baggage handling isn't as efficient :-D
That video has to be 20 years old. Old paint schemes BMI, Swiss, BA, Air France. Terminal 2 is still there. Nic eto see the old footage. Very different airport now.
Yes ATL and ORD are first and second busiest airports in the world. LHR is third. However LHR is the busiest airport in the world FOR INTERNATIONAL traffic.
London is the busiest aviation hub in the world if you were to add the passenger traffic for all 5 airports. ,a sixth one is confirmed. One airport is the busiest in Europe, two are major airports. The other two, are smaller airports which deal with significant numbers. What other city has this many airports???
@tithm9 British Airways owns half of Heathrow, Delta owns 90 percent of Atlanta Heathrow is successful because it is serving a very busy international city Atlanta is successful only because Delta is there and used as a transit stop, if Delta left then Atlanta would be tiny in terms of movements
@dionsanchez24 Go on Airports Council International website then clic statistics reports, annual traffic reports and then "The Top 30 Airports 2008 - Aircraft movements" and you'll find that, for instance, Atlanta is n°1, Las Vegas n°6, Paris n°8, Frankfurt n°12 and London n°13. Sorry i couldn't find the numbers on the eurocontrol website but in term of traffic it's not the busiest.
@tithm9 Heathrow is going to be closed down and replaced in the next 10-20 years anyway, they are in discussions and planning a mega airport on the Isle of Grain with 6 runways and capacity for 150 million
Heathrow airport is the best airport in the world especially if your a plane spotter I mean there's a plane ever minute and a half two minutes which is crazy and its in such small area so no idea hi they handle it but if they get a third runway it will be even better
@firexfalcon.... u r right.... it just hve 2 runways 09L/27R and 09R/27L but its not the worlds busiest airport.... but the worlds busiest airspace i can say
@tithm9 Nope wrong, biggest airport in the world will be Beijing Daxing which when completed will have 200 million passengers and 9 runways. Anyway New London Airport with 6 runways and 150 million as well as extra space to be 8 runways and 180 million pax in 30 years is better than Heathrow with capacity for 90 million and only 2 runways.
@Pouipouine heathrow is the biggest and busiest airport in Europe and the 3rd busiest in the world after Hartsfieldjackson in Atlanta and O,hare in chicago
@pjburgess I was outside a hospital not far from Heathrow and watched a plane appear from behind the building, I counted the seconds till the next plane appeared and it was 11 seconds, then I counted again...it was 11 seconds. I had four planes in view within 1 minute. Awesome but frightning
Atlanta is the busiest airport in the world, not Heathrow. ATL handles more passengers annually and more than double the aircraft movements per year compared to Heathrow.
It is not the busiest airport on earth, in term of take-off and landing movements many US airports are bigger. Charles de Gaulle airport in Paris also has more movements than Heathrow. Do not mix number of movements and number of passengers! ;-)
@cvsrf123 Yes but its the busiest air space in the world and the busiest international airport in the world joint with JFK. All the others count non commercial flights, and Heathrow has the most people a year checking in/out a year, as one plane carries 500 odd people. Other airports might have more planes but they have less passengers.
Heathrow is going to be replaced within the next 10-20 years to a new airport built on the Isle of Grain which will be 2 r 3 times the size and with more runways
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LHR is an awesome place. The first 3 min of this video are just fantastic..hats off to the guys who made it
All my respect to those people who proudly do this job representing their nation!
UK airspace is indeed most professional in the world!
Cheers,
James
Thanks for posting it. Every time if I spend my holidays in London LHR is a must for me
Was this filmed with a potato X-Q467f? Or 866h
Where does the background music comes from?! The presentation was amazing!
@Pink038 It can seem that way I know. They're only allowed a very limited number of flights between 11pm to 6am. If they break the limit they face hefty fines, but sometimes they have to clear a backlog of late night flights because of delays and may run over 11pm. Also, some direct long-haul flights arrive during the "quiet time" so this may be what you are hearing/seeing.
@leathermodelcuir It was badly explained but they didn't mean actually taking off in opposite directions, they meant departing aircraft following alternating departure routings after takeoff, so if flight 1 takes off from 27R and turns right after departure, flight 2 takes off 27R but turns left after departure.
@AirTCO I've flown to/from Boryspol a number of times, and while I understand that it may have a theoretical capacity of 90 flights per hour, as far as I am aware the terminal (even counting the new one) and ground operations probably couldn't handle the passenger numbers for that many flights! And they never seem to be very busy ;-)
@tithm9
btw who do you fly with???
my uncle and grandfather were both pilots with Dan-Air (now bust) and British Airways
@zaeemahmedabbasi Actually, Heathrow can only operate planes from 06:00 to 23:00 - due to noise level contraints - which is a total of just 17 hours, or 1020 minutes. So, it's less than a flight a minute.
Just to think, this was recorded years ago, since then, British Airways has build Terminal 5, Retired their 757's, brought more 777, Airbus's, and changed their livery, PLUS More flights have been added and passenger numbers have increased!
London: aside from LHR, London has four other airports, plus other small airstrips including an RAF base. And high altitude aircraft passing the UK, and lower aircraft from Europe. Plus choppers and local traffic. Bit scary.
It may be busy yes, but US ATC is far more significant, ATL and DFW both continuously run triple simultaneous arrivals, with a ground control that is harder to work than any control position in the world I'd say. Then you have ZNY airspace, three major airports all in the same virtually the same spot, the most complex airspace in the world.
You have a lot of experience with air traffic then? Doesn’t sound like it
Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport, Atlanta, Georgia, United States
2,700 Aircrafts Movement per day.. World's Busiest Airport...
Largest number of passengers annually. (1998-present)
Most arrivals and departures (operations) annually. (1999-2000, 2005-present).[6]
In 2007, Hartsfield again set the world's record for most aircraft movements in one year with 994,346....
The caption at the start of the video talking about 1400 flights per day seems to imply that LHR has the most aircraft movements in the world. Nothing could be further from the truth. That accolade goes to Atlanta also with 950,000 movements per year (2600 per day). LHR is only in 13. position with 455,000 movements per year (1246 per day)
Can someone tell me the shows name?? Please this episode looks sooo interesting.
This is incomplete .. anyone got a link of the whole program ??
cant they make a new runway......i cant imagine if anything went wrong, it would be the deadliest aircrash....from where can we see this program in full?
i really want to see d whole documentary ....
can any1 plzzzz ... tell me the name of it
does anyone knw which documentry is it frm???? Is tht documentry available online sumwhere?????
What is the name of this programme?.
where can we find d full video from?
If anything, the airport and airspace is just as much busier than when the video was released. Since then, Terminal 5A,B and C have been built, Terminal 2 Is being rebuilt and plans for the same for T1. New airlines have joined the airport as well as larger aircraft such as the A380 doing daily flights. As well as this, Heathrow are still pushing to try and get a 3rd runway, this is an airport showing no signs of slowing down!
Actually as everyone else is saying - London Heathrow is busier. It is the BUSIEST in terms of international passengers, it is one of the busiest in the world. It has only 2 runways whilst Atlanta has 4. No one outside of the US know of Atlanta, everyone knows Heathrow.
@fawii The airport never closes, it's open 24 hours. They just heavily restrict the number of flights between 11pm and 6am because of the noise.
@1053857 But do u knw wht's the name of tht programme and where cn i find it?
how was the flight?
@steven8hamilton Actually the biggest airport in the world is going to be Dubai's Al Maktoum International because it has a capacity of 160 million and they have already started building that airport. New London airport would be 150 million "IF" they decide to even build it which is easily 10 years away.
When was this made
@tithm9
I am pointing out that the proportions at the worlds major airports are dependent on different circumstances.
Heathrow is big because London is world a centre.
Atlanta is big only because Delta decided to put up stakes there.
When Gateway gets built and replaces Heathrow it will be the biggest airport in no time, it will be around twice the size as Heathrow in terms of space and runways
(Part 1) Atlanta, Beijing & Chicago are all busier than Heathrow but what a lot of people don't understand is Heathrow is the most sought out airspace in the world. Heathrow has hit its max capacity and can't grow anymore because there's just no space to grow. If tomorrow, Heathrow decided to make a 8 runway airport with terminals the size of the new Dubai Al Maktoum Airport with a capacity of 160 million, those gates would be purchased by airlines and sold out in hours!
Can somebody PLSSSSSS tell me what this film is, PLEASE!!!??
has anyone ever uploaded this in HD... would like to present this as a case study on how Heathrow reduced the time from 4 mins to 45 secs
Someone probably already mentioned this before but the graphic showing how the arrivals and departures work (starting around 1.27) is wrong.
Aircraft always take-off and land the same way, runway direction being decided based on the current wind direction.
Therefore you wouldn't have the situation shown at 2.57.
Which pixel is the airport?
Yeah,massive airport...i live in Galway,Ireland and use it a lot to connect onwards...its very well organised,apparently..at any one time during normal hours,there are at least 100,000 people inthe airport...that terminal 5 is now the single biggest building in the UK by square footage
LOL imagine in the ATC tower a message pops up on thier screens, Microsoft ATC Manager is not responding would you like to send a erorr report?
Airspace, perhaps. Heathrow is second busiest to Atlanta, however, in busy airports
No doubt, superb professional expertise in the operation of flights Landing & Take off.
@zaeemahmedabbasi no they hav only 1020 mins bcoz it starts morg 6 n closes night 11!!!!! amazing...
@steven8hamilton I agree. As a FO who's been to ATL plenty of times, I can tell you there's nothing in ATL except Delta. Daxing will have 120-200 million. They don't really know if its going to be closer to the 120 or 200. The majority of that will be domestic traffic in China. As far as DXB goes, Its all intl traffic. It would be the biggest "INTL airport". I'm sure you read my comment on the Dubai Al Maktoum Video. DXB WILL take traffic away from other airports once EK gets their full orders.
Every busy airport says it is the busiest; much like every office or business you visit says, ''we are really busy, all the time; some staff are on leave, too".
.
Cheers.
from
del-boy.
amazing how many planes they take with only two runways, they have to make another one. i remember when i was there i sat myself where i could see when the plane touched down for landing, i swear that i could count 12 second and a plane would touch down. amazing what they do.
Oh great--I land there in a few weeks!
@AlanaPower111 In terms of aircraft movements, yes, but as the video states Heathrow is the busiest INTERNATIONAL airport in the world.
@Ebajgora1998 That isn't a scenic route, that's lined up with the runway!
@tithm9
anyway that isnt the point, is Delta decided to move their hub to Jacksonville then over night Jacksonville would be the worlds largest airport and Atlanta would be a little second tier airport
What, you mean Heathrow air traffic controlers don't take naps in front of their screens? Amazing!
Airplanes never take-off and land in opposite directions as shown in the animation in this video. They always head in the same direction (against the wind) for both.
Just only 2 runways... and 100 Air Traffic controllers... to handle half a million flights a year... Amazing...
yes they do, if runaway is busy for landing
@est1830 You're right,! I just named the cities and not the airports thninking it was pretty obvious which one was bigger
narrated by alan johnson from peep show??
@RamMohankumar It's busiest in domistic flights and because it's the hub of delta airlines the largest airline in domastic flights in the US, in addition some international flights.
Population of the US is too much..
Atlanta just uses one airport for domestic and international flights.
60 traffic/hour? hm...
In main airport of Ukraine Boryspol (KBP/UKBB) we also have 2 runways. Once, during very snowy day and lots of delays caused buy inappropriate RW conditions, one of its manager said, that our airport actually can handle 90 (ninety) traffic per hour, as KBP has exactly 90 stands. So now state aviation administration wants us (controllers) to be able to handle 90 landing/take-off operations per hour. with the same 2 runways)
I think the difference is that Atlanta Airport has alot of runways.
At 2:51 , it says wrong : planes are landing and taking-off of from the same direction !!
maybe they do it once but here it shows it spirals like 6 times and i lived right under the heathrow holding pattern for landings for 13years and have never seen a plane make a full circle
No other airport does more with less?
After Christmas 2010 they had better get more snow removal equipment ...
wow that is so cool! I can't believe it only has two runways!!!!
what an old video! At least 15 years old?
Unless it is an emergency no aircraft land or take off between 11pm and 6am, plenty of time for maintenance.
It's a shame the baggage handling isn't as efficient :-D
Great video!!
That video has to be 20 years old. Old paint schemes BMI, Swiss, BA, Air France. Terminal 2 is still there. Nic eto see the old footage. Very different airport now.
Yes ATL and ORD are first and second busiest airports in the world. LHR is third. However LHR is the busiest airport in the world FOR INTERNATIONAL traffic.
London is the busiest aviation hub in the world if you were to add the passenger traffic for all 5 airports. ,a sixth one is confirmed. One airport is the busiest in Europe, two are major airports. The other two, are smaller airports which deal with significant numbers. What other city has this many airports???
Yeah man...but most of those flights in Atlanta are mickey mouse flights in fairness to heathrow
Gatwick has even more movements per runway
@tithm9
British Airways owns half of Heathrow, Delta owns 90 percent of Atlanta
Heathrow is successful because it is serving a very busy international city
Atlanta is successful only because Delta is there and used as a transit stop, if Delta left then Atlanta would be tiny in terms of movements
@dionsanchez24
Go on Airports Council International website then clic statistics reports, annual traffic reports and then "The Top 30 Airports 2008 - Aircraft movements" and you'll find that, for instance, Atlanta is n°1, Las Vegas n°6, Paris n°8, Frankfurt n°12 and London n°13.
Sorry i couldn't find the numbers on the eurocontrol website but in term of traffic it's not the busiest.
@1037pm the sad fact is that there is no space to put more
Hartsfield Jackson Atlanta is the busiest airport in the world, right?
@tithm9
Heathrow is going to be closed down and replaced in the next 10-20 years anyway, they are in discussions and planning a mega airport on the Isle of Grain with 6 runways and capacity for 150 million
@X46RAPTOR people do live around airports, trust me. there's more noise abatement policies than you know.
heyyy what about hong kong... -_-
Heathrow airport is the best airport in the world especially if your a plane spotter I mean there's a plane ever minute and a half two minutes which is crazy and its in such small area so no idea hi they handle it but if they get a third runway it will be even better
amazing how they only use two parallels. they need to get another :/
@firexfalcon.... u r right.... it just hve 2 runways 09L/27R and 09R/27L but its not the worlds busiest airport.... but the worlds busiest airspace i can say
the busiest airport in the world is Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport but heathrow has the most international flights in the world
It's nice to see they keep blacks out of the control tower
@tithm9
Nope wrong, biggest airport in the world will be Beijing Daxing which when completed will have 200 million passengers and 9 runways.
Anyway New London Airport with 6 runways and 150 million as well as extra space to be 8 runways and 180 million pax in 30 years is better than Heathrow with capacity for 90 million and only 2 runways.
@Pouipouine heathrow is the biggest and busiest airport in Europe and the 3rd busiest in the world after Hartsfieldjackson in Atlanta and O,hare in chicago
@pjburgess I was outside a hospital not far from Heathrow and watched a plane appear from behind the building, I counted the seconds till the next plane appeared and it was 11 seconds, then I counted again...it was 11 seconds. I had four planes in view within 1 minute. Awesome but frightning
Makes me wanna be a pilot when im older but im bad in geography and maths and im also a girl makes me shy and all
Hong kong does nott deal with as many flights as heathrow a day
Atlanta is the busiest airport in the world, not Heathrow. ATL handles more passengers annually and more than double the aircraft movements per year compared to Heathrow.
@e081194eng
Heathrow is third busiest after Atlanta (first) and Chicago (second)
Also theres 3 runways now and a new control tower ;)
The way have shown the stack is wrong..you cannot have planes landing in the opposite direction as the take offs. It never happens in LHR
So according to the History Channel (Or so I think. That one pixel looks like the H), Heathrow departs in one direction and lands in the other? No...
It is not the busiest airport on earth, in term of take-off and landing movements many US airports are bigger. Charles de Gaulle airport in Paris also has more movements than Heathrow.
Do not mix number of movements and number of passengers! ;-)
Right. I meant landing on, for example, 27L, and departing on runway 09L
omg just increase the runway numbers man.. why so much risk lol its a matter of little more area
Not a disaster. Pure skill and precision.
@cvsrf123 Yes but its the busiest air space in the world and the busiest international airport in the world joint with JFK. All the others count non commercial flights, and Heathrow has the most people a year checking in/out a year, as one plane carries 500 odd people. Other airports might have more planes but they have less passengers.
I think its London as a whole is the busiest airpsace in the world.
great quality!
Did he meen that heathrow airport closes it' airport after 11 PM ??!!
Amarzin Imagine wat its like with T5 Now as well
Heathrow is going to be replaced within the next 10-20 years to a new airport built on the Isle of Grain which will be 2 r 3 times the size and with more runways