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Buying A CHEAP Z28 Camaro That's Only Been On FIRE A Little Bit
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 เม.ย. 2022
- I used to see this 1993 Chevy Camaro Z28 rolling around town and flagged the owner down to talk about it. My car is a 94 with T-Tops and an auto but this car is about as close to a perfect twin as you could have. Max reached out to me a couple weeks ago and said the car had caught on fire and he wanted to sell it. I said I'd come check it out thinking I'd be parting it out and using the body to breath some life back into mine. Now that the car is back in the shop I think we'll be able to save this and put it back on the road. I can't wait to have matching LT1 Zs!
Thanks to @100PercentJake for helping with the unload!
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$2k for a LT1 Z28 Camaro with a stick? I don't care how burned it is that's a steal
Thats what im saying
I think it's considered a fire sale
@@taelorwatson9822 touche
Sad to let it go. It sat in my driveway for awhile and I don’t have the time, money, or shop to fix it. Hopefully JR will get it fixed up.
@@taelorwatson9822 not considered fire sale. Just needs work. So I let it go cheap.
You could call it "The Charmaro".
YES posted the same!! Great
Excellent. ComON . Perfect
Came here to write the same!
That car is almost 30 years old and that's crazy to even think about.
I remember when these were brand new. I feel old
Is it close to being a classic so it doesn't have to be registered?
It's like putting into perspective if back to the future was filmed today he'd only go back to 1992
@@morphman21 Is that a Kansas thing that classics don't require registration? At least here in MN there is a classic / collectors registration and it's not terribly expensive and doesn't require renewal every year, but you have to own another car and it can't be your primary commuter car.
@@DriverJsGarage I think he just doesn't register them and prays he doesn't get pulled over.
That JL logo from a distance looks like an old school Atari logo🤣
Also, the quick disconnect on the fuel line looks like something on big rig air lines. I doubt the seals are designed for fuel.
It's the FireMaro! I've been a Camaro guy my whole life. My dad owned a couple 80/81 Z28s before I was born, he bought my mom a demo 91 RS and then in April of 94, when I was 3 and a half, he bought the white 80 Z28 that's in my picture and we've had it ever since. It's my pride and joy. I owned a 96 V6 Maro because it was dirt cheap and why not, but I've always loved the 4th gen cars. So many people hate them but I love them. The second gen is my favorite, with the 80/81 being my absolute favorite.
Great find! It might be easier to remove and replace the wiring from another Z/28 in the local junkyard or on line with LKQ to totally replace the burned harness's and fuel tubes.
The 93 wiring is different from the 94-97 models. Luckily there's aftermarket websites that will build you new harnesses.
Dude that is honestly a nice Z28! I’m sure you will have it up and running in no time. If you ever come across a 1st gen eclipse I would love to see what you could do with it.
I'd be surprised if he could find an eclipse that hasn't been heavily molested...
I like the 'piss on Ford' sticker on the rear glass as a Ford is towing it away
You are neglecting to consider the year of the Price of the MSRP 20 Knwas a lot of money at that time in 1986 i bought a brand new Nissan Pick up out the door for just under 7 K it was the Advertised Television Sales Price they used to get people into the Dealership i will note the Dealerships weren’t happy about it and the Vehicle they would let go of was the most rediculously stripped down Truck you could get Vinyl Seat ,5 Speed ,no Radio, no AC , no Sliding rear Window or any Luxury thing i will say it ran great and got some good fuelMileage and 10 years later i posted it on a local Classified and i had people fighting over buying it in my Driveway i had put a good stereo in it and it was Clean and running well ironically i saw the Truck running around for over 10 years with my bumper stickers still,on it LOL
I've had this exact car for 20 years (minus the fire damage). It was my first car. And yeah, trouble shooting OBD 1 is the worst.
Do you know if this car in the video is a 5,7 l?
@@nostric4237 yes it is.
Sometimes in situations like this I wish you could fix these things up and then give/sell the cars back to the victims of whatever befell them.
WatchJRCarResuce would be very entertaining! Just go to the auto parts stores and I'm sure he could help a lot of people.
That'd probably cut into the profit that fuels the next project... I think he could help the guy find a new car and or fix something on his new car for him?
We all know Jake’s favorite mod is the sticker
but I love my Fords :(
Can’t wait to see more videos on this rebuild! My daughter and I are thinking about buying and building an F Body as a project car together.
Water pump + optispark was super common on these. Maybe parts have improved but all my friends with Camaros, Vettes and the Impala SS had to do the combo a few times.
Yup these were notorious issues for the owners of the early 4th gen's in the Camaro club I was in.
I know some people have issues but mine has been rock solid 🍻
@@WatchJRGo you need to buy some lotto tickets! :-) :-)
I remember my 94 z28. It has 3 jl 12w6’s and it was extremely loud.
My buddy burned up his 72 Chevel, or however it's spelled, when his secondary fuel filter dropped dropped onto the header. I had looked at the filter fuel line combo a week before and told him he should tie it up before something bad happened, he agreed and we moved on.
He and another buddy went to 7/11 to get big gulps or something and I was hanging out in the parking lot tinkering with my car and waiting for them to get back. I heard sirens and saw some smoke and they came walking up and I asked him where his car was and he said it went to chevy heaven and said they were driving and he suddenly smelled fuel really strong then flames exploded up from under the hood and he managed to get it stopped and they bailed out.
It burned all the top of the engine then followed the wiring through the firewall and started torching under the dash.
He gave up and sold it cheap, the guy who bought it paid to have it rewired and had it painted white. I had run it a few times in my Dart and always beat it with the factory 318 with a Thermo Quad, early 340 manifolds, and a 727 with a stage 2 shift kit and 3.23 sure grip rear. He had the factory 350 with a cam, AFB, and headers.
When I saw it repainted I tried to run him but he wouldn't try, might be because I had a 383 GTS nose on it🤣 Fun and sad times...
You should use the airport tug to move cars around the garage it would be alot more fun then pushing
I had a black '96 LT1 6 speed, lowered with borla exhaust and light mods with front LS1 brake spindles and brakes. That thing handled like it was on rails. I went through so many parts swaps on that car, must have done 3 clutches on it, and a trans rebuild with upgraded forks.
I've owned three Camaros so far. 86 V6, 97 Z-28 and a 14 SS vert. Loved all three.
My dad's '02 SS was a hardtop. *Slight* weight advantage, but... if you're worried about weight, a Camaro isn't the best place to start.
Compared to to cars made in the last 10 years, it’s light
@@CPAJayhawk Corvette, Miata, Lotus anything... I disagree. If you're talking about an EV, then my entire house is light by comparison. :)
You could definitely say that you got your Z28 from a fire sale...
I have a 97 camaro ss, black with red strips, 6 spd manual. 32mpg in the highway at 70 - barely turning 1500rpm in 6th.
No optispark failure but i may upgrade to the msd waterproof unit. A good puddle with stall it right out - but it will dry out before the tow truck arrives.
Also the egr valve is defective from the factory. Mounts to the back of the head!
Fuel pressure regulator failure - something rattling around inside occasionally sticks it open and fuel pressure drops so it cant run. A head scratcher lol. Usually it fixes itself and is almost impossible to find.
I think you should put a fuel pump access door in, im planning to do that before the fuel pump dies - 25yrs old. Water pump failed
A pia to get out.
Fans not kicking on - car overheats. Sensor failed in the water pump for the fans - fyi there are 2 of these that look identical. One is for the overheat lights (come on after its too hot) and the other is for the fans (trips at a much lower temp. Get the wrong one at the auto-parts store and you'll never figure out why the car overheats !
Needs an upgraded torque arm, bbk, etc make these for abt 700$.
The factory one connects from the front of the diff to the transmission. So if the car had sticky tires and could hook up you'd rattle your teeth out. The new ones connect to the trans cross member - not the trans itself and have a builtin driveshaft loop.
I am glad you are saving it. A car with that little fire damage should not junked. That said those F body cars were awful. I had a 1999 Firebird. The build quality was questionable and some of the design of the cars was also questionable. The car was pretty large on the outside but cramped on the inside.(this car was much bigger then a Miata but seemed to have less drivers seat room as i was cramped in the Firebird but had plenty of room in the Miata).The passenger front seat was pretty much unusable for a passenger due to the raised floor due to the cat being under it. In the 6 years I owned it, I had to replace the coolant expansion tank 3 times as the top of it is used as the battery tray and the battery hold down was brittle and would crack and break just from driving the car around. Once that broke, the battery was loose. 3 times i had to replace the whole thing. The bolt was torqued down to proper specs and it was never touched after that and it still broke. Working on the engine was a lesson in patience as despite the car being so long, the engine was still half under the cowl. There were some pluses about the car. The headlights went up and down without getting stuck and the car did have a nice throaty exhaust sound. I finally got rid of it and bought a 1994 Ford Probe which was so much easier to work on and so much more fun to drive.
My Cherokee, in 1997, was all of 20k.
Today's prices are bonkers by comparison.
I swear today was the day for it. I drove through Derby around 7 tonight and I saw like twelve of those all zooming around.
Just name it Barney.. Its Purple, from the 90's. And also slow and lovable... Lol
Smokey and the Firebit - an homage to Burnt Reynolds.
$20K back then is around $40k now.
Yeah because my brand new 92 Chevy Cavalier Z24 was $14k and I remember thinking it was alot of money considering I could have gotten a brand new Dodge Daytona IROC R/T with waaay more power for about $18k (which was kind of a big difference at the time). Ultimately couldn't swing the higher payments and ended up with a black Z24 5-speed.
Dude, had the 10" JL in the stealth box on my 1999 Z28, amp mounted in the same place. Had some nice 6.5"(I think) components in the doors, man it would absolutely kick the hell out of some Pantera, Killswitch, Lamb of God, Mastadon, etc. Also this looks "decent" for the year, might be worth doing paint/body work if it has zero rust and has never been in an accident. I'm not saying it needs a $10,000 concourse paint job, but for a person who is handy and knows body work this would be a great project.
You named the Ratvette, after the rat attack. The Camaro could be called Campfireo, after the engine fire ? =P
Wasn't that some kind of Marshmallow?
THIS....is a money maker! LOL Hope there isn't anything bad hiding on you. Look forward to the end result!
Writing this before you've gotten into it. 2k is a Great deal!!
My 94 had one of those fuel lines leak a few years ago, but mine was where it runs inside the wheel well. I was able to find a new OEM assembly and replaced the whole thing from driver floor to engine. Mine is a 94 but white. But it only has 70k. It is however on its third optispark. First one lasted about ten years, second new OEM about TWO years. And the current was one of those MSD ones that adds the vent lines the early ones didn't get from the factory has been going fine since.
Let me know before you pass it on! My first brand new car when l was 18 was a 93 z28 6 speed in Purple Pearl Metallic
OMG!
Back in 1994 I bought pre own 1993 Z28 manual with T-top roof in the purple!
Oh meh bring back good memories.
Only complain was T-top. It’s nice but it leaking water every time when Texas heavy rains.
You bight steal deal.
My never had an opti spark problem too. I think everyone would blame it but ended up being the fuel pump. I put 3 pumps in my over a 12 year span
I have sought this kind of deal for years: 90's-era Z28 6 speed for cheap. I have found that it's hard to find examples that have not been seriously molested.
I once found an M&M under the seat of a Copart car, and ate it
Doesn't surprise me
Was it a peanut one?
As a truck driver I'd guess this is from the lines to the QD connector are cut sloppy. We do this stuff with air lines all the time.
dude what 2k for a t56 is insane here. LET ALONE A WHOLE CAMARO!!!! great find
Haha, yeah. It just sat in my driveway too long… rebuilt t56 as well. So steel shift forks and all. Wish I didn’t have to get rid of it
The water pump usually leaks on the optispark. I got lucky and it only took out my coil. I had the 1997 30th Anniversary addition. Summit white with the orange SS stripes.
thats a nice 1993 camaro it looks like he upgraded from the 1993 tailights to 1999 taillights cuz a 1993 to 1997 camaros had amber turn signal in the taillights and the 1999 taillights were all red with no amber turn signals
Other way round, 93-96 were all
Red 97-02 had amber
Yeah this has the right tails, LS1 cars have the amber 🍻
So you bought a T56 and it came with a free car. Nice!
M first car was a 93 Z28, back in 2003. I had the SLP dual tube intake
My 94 Z28 never had a fuel pump or Optispark when I owned it either. I put 115k miles on it and sold it to a friend in 2007 or so. It was auto and purple pearl metallic as well. Loved that car. I blacked the wheels as well but I left the machined rim silver.
I had one of my cars catch fire before. 95 Mustang GT, supercharged, SVO side exhaust, MSD ignition, rims, everything. TSB for a seized cooling fan bearing which could lock up the fan, overload the wiring, and cause a fire. Of course this happened to my vehicle, and it was much worse than your car here. Battery was toast, fuel lines, radiator, supercharger tubes, belts, fender and hood were all destroyed.
6 months after my car caught fire, they turned it into a full blown recall, naturally. Anyhow someone actually bought it from auction and managed to track me down to call me about the details. I guess he was planning on fixing it, and I was surprised that the insurance company didn't want to. They wound up paying me out to the tune of about $12k.
Adjusting for inflation, $19,154 in 1993 is equivalent to just over $38,000 now, because American dollars are almost outhouse wallpaper now
Remember when these came out. Awesome!
Looking forward to this! Always had fond memories of this era of Camaro
Looking forward to this one haha.
Hopefully it’s running tomorrow! 🍻
Funny you mentioned the hard to change plug wires. I was the second owner of my 1997 and took it to the GM dealers for a misfire. The original owner decided to change the plugs and wires himself. Well he cross threaded one of the plugs which are angle plug heads and he left the original wires just hanging under the car.
Not the only car that got purple pearl. Currently have a '95 Aurora in that color. Great color.
8:22 a non broken positive junction box. Most of us early 4th gen owners either have a broken one, or have replaced it at least once. I've replaced it twice on my trans am.
Love those 90s Camaros and Firebirds. I had a 96 TA Formula Firebird that was custom ordered in metallic burnt orange red paint.
My dad had a 94' Z28 built 4l60, 3:73 full posi, LT1 punched to a 355, forged rods/ Pistons, ported aluminum heads, CompCams503 w/1.6 rockers and full bolt-ons. That car was nasty... Going to buy him another here someday soon that we can build together. He deserves it. Can't wait to see what you do. EDIT: His was the grey similar to that purple :)
We might finally get a full rebuild like we used to get on here. Back when JR used to LS swap everything. Everything. Hyundai Accent= LS swap, Ford F-150=LS Swap...oh wait, those didn't happen.
Non of the ls swaps have ever been fully completed 😂
Seems like a lot of things never get completed. Kinda hard to get invested when there's never a payoff.
Also, I'm starting to like the Mortske and Puddin style videos more now. They may be longer, but it's nice to see a lot of progress in one video.
Sweet Camaro what's up with the white second gen S10 looks bad ass!!!
I have the original RPO sheet for my Hawaiian customer ordered 95 Trans Am. Most dealers threw them out during prep. I bought it in Florida 18 years ago from the original owner.
I too am on the same opti my car came with in 2004. I did replace the cap and rotor in 2006.
Prob mentioned on here somewhere. 93 was the only year of the non vented optispark. I had to change mine every 6 months. Any water on it and boom. Failed water pump, boom. Eventually did a coil pack swap.
It would be cool to make a repair series for this car, keep the video revenue, and then give it back to the kid. That would be awesome.
Seems like a steal for $2k. Fix some wiring and fuel lines, then just clean it up and undo all Jake's favorite mods. Easy. Nice find!
My buddy used to own a 93 SS convertible. It was like brand new when he sold it.
I would have never guessed that McLovin was an F-Body guy
I had for 22 years a ‘95 LT1, 6 speed manual, Trans Am, convertible. I was amused that that the spark plugs were good for 100,000 miles per the Owners manual, But the wires needed to be changed every 20,000 miles. And it wasn’t a job you can do unless you have a lift, you needed to drop the exhaust manifolds. So what was the point of changing the wires and not the plugs while you were in that deep. Only changed out the Optispark and the water pump 1 time and that was when we serviced the heads and installed new head bolts, after 15 years it was starting to loose a little water.
That's so sad! I went to school with max at wsu tech , and he seemed to really love that car
Yeah, man. It sucks! Super sad to let her go. But I’m trying to buy a house, and I don’t have the time or place to work on it anymore :\
@@Max-pp2io That's awesome about the house though man, congratulations! We need to hangout again sometime soon!
@@hankmurphy01 yeah, man! I’m down!
Dude, I fixed more wires on a 92 Suzuki Sidekick after a known issue of the wiring harness being to short and rubbing against the fame.
Had a 1994 vet and 2 opti spark distributer failure, not a fun job on a vette. Got to the point I didn't trust going on long trips so I dumped it. What engeneer thought that was a good idea LOL
"Fi-Ero"
"Fi(re Cam)ero"
Why push when you have a Tug?
I'd buy this tomorrow if it was in the UK. Lovely car John, well played
Them optisparks were a pain...when I had my comaro..I replaced 3 three of them otherwise a good running car
You should fix it and give it back to him!
I am so pumped that I'm pumping my pump to pump my pump.. So pumped.
I want to give you credit for inspiring me to do repairs on my vehicles on my used car lot in Vancouver Canada...you rock bro.
Trapper Keeper --- thats a "word" I haven't heard in 20 years :)
Those were some of the first American muscle cars to come back to South Africa after the end of Apartheid. Was the first time I got to hear a V8 burble, it was a Stuyvesant rep car. 😁
Pushing cars onto trailers is so 30 years ago. How about installing a winch on the trailer as one of the next projects??? 🤔🤔🤔
Can't wait to see the S10 project takeover hopefully soon...
Good score! Looking forward to seeing it fixed. Also, what's the story on the Magnum? I see it a lot in the background of your videos. I'm interested in hearing about it too.
I had an ‘83 Escort catch on fire in high school. It wasn’t much of a loss. Probably did me a favor.
Stick shifts were really hard to find in 1993.
80s 90s early 2000s v8 Camaros and c4 c5 c6 and c7 Corvettes are going to be so expensive in the next 10 - 15 years ... same for the same year gm pickup trucks and suvs .... 80 - 2005 ish ... for most of the models mentioned...
If it didnt blister the paint on the hood, It wasn't really on fire. It just burped while starting. Really JR you have to stop stealing these cars.
This makes me miss my 93. I better bring a trailer and a check.
Does anyone else see the irony in the back window sticker on that Camaro? Towed in by a Ford, lol.
That fuel line fire is exactly why the 94-97 cars have a clip holding the fuel lines up and away from the valve cover.
Maybe you can use the airport tug to push cars
Can't find a car like that around here for 2k, a LT1 with a 5spd manual, sorry but I'd take it, can still do a lot with it on the cheap and make a fun ride.
Great video from JR.
Jake needs to have that fire hawk and yours needs to be restored so you can both go to events and shows in your nearly matching cars.
I got my 92 GSXR 750 for $150 because of the same issue but the fire was a little worse on my bike
Fire? What fire? I don't even see any toast!
You have a tug that would make easy work of the cars that don't run.
It was a Smokin' deal! 😂
Literally.
Ty JRGo!
My 2 favorite TH-camrs 😀🔆😊
Nice grab! Damn, you are finding some good ones!
Name suggestion: Flamaro
I k ow about that engine due to them being the worst engine for a c4 Corvette. The optispark gets leaked on by the water pumps weep hole. Theya slo suck because you ahve to take off the whole front end to have room to get out the optispark. You can get a later one that is less vented and make a weep hole pipe to make it leak away from the optispark.
Cletus is getting jealous beating him to the punch.
Chevy En Fuego!