Cheap Water Effects Alternatives ( Alternatives to Woodland Scenics active water effects )
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Gloss Gel Medium
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Evo Stick Clear Silicone
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I've only just discovered you a week ago and I've learned so much. Thanks for all your hard work and sharing.
I discovered your channel a few days ago and I love em.
great video, you took the time and money to test a variety of products to help others with water effects, I appreciate it because I'm definitely going to try the silicone , thanks
Been a fan for a while. I have used the silicone for a while, I have layered it and painted between layers, and finish it up with some floor varnish and it comes beautiful. To help smooth it a little soapy water and latex gloves and use your fingers, then dab with stick to get peaks. Good vid, often wondered if it was worth the hassle of proper water effects, now I know Thanks.
Thanks so much for posting this. Answered a lot of questions. Never got around to buying the Woodland Scenics because the cost always seemed to high. Sounds like the gel medium is the solution for what I need!!
Thanks for the tips and the comparisons between alternatives. You presented some very attractive alternatives to the more expensive modelling-dedicated products. I'll be hitting up my local home-improvement store for silicone caulk next time I want to create water effects!
Your The man Luke . Knew there would be a low cost alternative . The WS range is marked up so much on all their stock you can easily shop in the Railway Hobby suppliers for equal alternative . Then by the time these hit the shelves in Oz it costs a Kidney
Thanks Luke! Much appreciated helping us navigate H20 effects products. Cheers!
So gloss gel medium looks the better option for a newbie, great video
Nice one Luke, it's always good to get the best bang for your buck!
Cheers mate and have a great time with your next project,
Joe
Says it all, great video , thanks Luke .
G'day mate, just want to say... big thumbs up on your vids, every time I watch one my creative juices start a flowing. I've got some ideas I want to try out when im off on spring break from teaching.
Oh and also, you got a mention from black magic crafts as well mate, for the £ store water/resin effects.. that just shows now mate that your name is getting out there 👍🏻
Great info! I made a 6 by 4 gamingtable for axis and allies war at Sea and used transparent acrylic silicon ( approx. 3 pound/tube, needed 2). I found out that IT was easier to work with IF you Put/smooth IT out with dishsoap.
Dude, I don't even make this stuff you show on your videos, but I still watch them because you're a cool guy. Keep it up!
Lukes Aps Would love to see you just doing another model start to finish ;)
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Very useful tutorial, thanks. I have have had good results with PVA glue but I used the EVO-STIK Weatherproof adhesive. It dried nice and clear but you are right, you do have to keep working it as it dries or it levels-out.
Thanks for the heads-up. Keep 'em coming.
I like the effect of the acrylic medium. Also, the silicone is harder to manipulate, so that already gives the medium a plus for me, since my skill in this is noob level.
Thanks for the video!
Brilliant video Luke, as are all your videos!! Thanks....
The modpodge would be great for the frothy effects at the bottom of water falls or for really heavy waves.
Nice test thanks! The mod podge and acrylic powder could be used to make the effect of waves breaking. In combination with the 007 or the medium gloss might look awesome.
This video helped me out so much in deciding what kind of gel to get for a small beach diorama with a float plane. Hopefully I'll be able to do this before years end. (decided to go with the liquitex gloss gel medium. Now I gotta figure out how to make the water look turquoise/blue .
Nice video. I appreciate your honesty.
Excellent video just what I was looking for.
I really like your channel and the many money saving ideas you are offering.
Living abroad (in Croatia) it's not always as easy to access/find/afford all the tailor made stuff for my crafts.
You cannot beat a cheeky cheap alternative!
I was about to do the same experiment. Thanks for saving me the cash!
never used water effects myself, but this is a great resource for when I do :)
Thanks, I want to make some low profile ponds and lakes and from watching this video I'm going to do vlear silicone on a heavy mill plastic.
I've thinned the clear caulking with household paint thinner, it worked very well.
I now understand why you said the water effects was crap. Awesome Video dude, keep em coming.
Hello Saw this video this morning. Tried the silicone this afternoon. Awesome. Just a 2x4 inch display for a 1/2400 ship display Worked great
Your work is amazing,thank you for all of the helpful information 🤙🏻🇮🇹
Awesome test, thanks. I a looking at doing a harbour and beach in N gauge and will try the silicon BUT I like the mod podge look for my waves on the beach part. What a clever mistake! :)
Great models and miniatures. Well done.
I hit the right video right away! I'll try the silicone first. Thanks!
really helpful, thanks for making this!
Very nice. I'm really working up to try some water effects!
Great video, Luke!
as always great stuff. newly subscribed but finding your channel very useful. awesome mate
Bravo....from Macedonia!!!
100% Positive....thanks
It would have been nice to see the fully cured state for these tests. It looked like the WS product had a higher level of detail than the other products and it would have been nice to see how it looked when it was fully cured.
The Mod Podge with acrylic powder looked a hell of a lot like frothy water. Things like a base of a waterfall or the crash of a wave. I didn't see ice when I saw that, I saw beaches.
It also would have been nice to see the acrylic medium fully cured as that could be a dual purpose product. If it's brushable you can use it as a substitute for both 'ardcoat like products and water effects.
Thanks Luke you’re a big help🇨🇦🇨🇦
Thanks, I've bought some 007, seems much cheaper than any water alternative I've found.
when I was screwing around with some silicone a while back I thinned it down with lighter fluid. It didn't smell good but I was able to get a nice placid lake. so if you find it too thick try a small amount to make it more pliable.
your channel is great, the acrylic powder is great to make snow and frozen effects
Thank you Great video. And very helpful.
You can make silicone less sticky when modeling by spraying water with dish washing fluid on it. That's how it's done in construction.
Thanks for the video! Very helpful
Thinking about joining facebook again just to join the group, you've inspired me to give model scenery a shot. Thank you for all this wonderful content!
Great video. Thanks mate👍
To cut your drying time down significantly... Get a simple de-humidifier. Moisture and cold temp. are the biggest factors in dry time. So spend the money for a cheap de-humidifier and you'll be glad you did! Cheers.
Really enjoyed this video. Extremely helpful. It's my understanding that traditional paints won't stick to silicone.
Brilliant video, thank you
Thanks for this video bro'!!! This will help me determine how I use these products in the future...
Thanks for the info Luke
Sorry to hear you’re stopping videos. Good one this.
silicone can be thinned with vinegar - just a bit goes a long way.
Dustin
From using it at work I know a bit about the silicone Calking. First using it hot is yuor friend. Bowl soem water, take it off the heat and put the tube in. Let it sit in it for about 15 minutes and the result will surprise. It will flow out at a near water consistency.
Also it has a interesting property. Dish soap won't stick to it. Mix up a small bowl of water and dish soap, dip any clay molding tools you might want to use in it and the you can tool it without it sticking to the tools you're using.
Perfect vid Luke! Use a bit of spit or water on your finger or sculpting tools with the silicone and you'll find it much easier to work with. Keep it up
Helpful video thanks.
A TIP for spreading the transparent sylicone ore polymer sealant. DIP YOUR FINGER IN VEGETABLE OIL TO SMOOTH THE WATER OUT.
Great work, very good comprehensive tutorials. Thx for the ideea man...I've just made my first diorama and I nedeed a cheap water effect solution. I wanted the water to simulate a mountain river with smooth areas in places. After a few tries a think a have a TIP :) just dip your finger in vegetable oil (in my country the most common one is sunflower oil, but i think any will do) and smooth it out wher you want it. I got a very good result with a slight glossy finish!
Great stuff Luke. I'm looking at doing a large wave (surfing size) for my guildball team (ever heard of it?) Been thinking on how to go about this and the silicon might be the answer. Thanks
+Lukes Aps can you make a winter board ? i would love to see how to make a good winter board for warhammer fantasy. love your vids
Amazing stuff
Very handy, interesting video , thanks
I used GE Silicone I for a project and was able to smooth it out with a popsicle stick dipped in rubbing (isopropyl) alcohol. Anytime the stick stuck to the silicone I'd rewet the stick or even use it as dispenser to wet the silicone surface. I'm not familiar with 007, so this method might not work with it, but it may be worth a shot.
I found something for the "this takes way too long to dry" problem:
In this video watch?v=63W29bmwfBk at timestamp 4:40 he begins to talk about how acrylic mixed with silicone is basically an instant-dry paste because of how silicone sets and how acrylic is made up.
Actually, the entire first half of his video is moderately interesting for answering the questions from yours, so go watch that I guess.
I can get gloss medium at my local art store for a few bucks. I will give that a shot for my Troglodon water base. Thanks!
Congrats matey.
Nice Video👍🏻
thanks for this really helpfull!! i well be geting some 007 asap :-)
Hey Luke, Interesting video. Just a thought, if the silicon is the best finish but a little on the thick side, is there a way of thinning it just a tad?
great vid as always - I can second the idea to add some white spirit. It makes it stink even worse and it takes longer to dry but can help with the workability a lot and white spirit is dead cheap too :D
[thank you for you're video]👍
Thank you like great vid seems a lot of modellers are using silicone. Going to try. Thanks guys. For the info.
Hi Luke, how would you recommend getting a smooth-er effect with the evo-stick? Its great for ripples and waves but if i want to lay it a bit smoother, what should I use?
Also if I want to make a waterfall effect, what should I lay the evo-stick on so that I can peel it off easy? It's meant to stick to tile so not sure how easy it would be to get off once dried/set?
Wow nice❤👍
Nice one, I'll try the James bond first then
Luke would you recommend this 007 stuff for using in waterfalls?
Otherwise informative Vid and thanks for sharing it with us.
Thank you for the comparison and advice! Love the range of options. Fantastic, saved me from using an expensive fake water that does not dry fast.
I use the vallejo water effects. it's pretty good. I'll have to let you have go of it
The modge podge and acrylic powder seem like they would be perfect for doing ocean surf ... did they stay sort of whitish or did they go completely clear over time ?
Very small amounts of *Naptha* mixed in with the silicone helps enormously.
gloss medium looks good
Nice , Cheers , :-) .
nice vid man
Agustín c You couldn't possibly have seen the whole video yet, it was just uploaded... Stop lying.
MM, thank you for this, i have been out of the purchasing department for a bit and pretty much..well.outta touch, good to know all this. All i have is the melty beads to make water they sorta suck..and modge podge. Which..from what im seeing here..grrr..im sorry this is an old vid but it didn't seam right to post it totally out of context on the board a year after it came up. ANYWAY i digress, i know some pretty old tech's and with modge podge it isn't different. To build layers we would use ceran wrap, cellophane, sticky cling wrap (whichever its called now) take strips and modge em down, shape, brace and so on, it dried fast and if you were lucky you could find the holiday wrap in blue, to add varied blue's to the mix, the thicker the layers of wrap the deeper the color. It sticks, well enough, to itself to be able to shape it. So, experiment on that one of these times, i haven't seen anyone do it in the 20 or so people i watch. Good luck, and really the base of it, have fun!
Luke do you prep. The foam board before applying the silicon ..????thank you😊
it's a mesmerizing way to save money and create beatiful wave and ripple.plz answer the silicon should be mix by alcohol or not???
The mud pudge(spelled?) could it be used as an add-on/detail to show the waves breaking?
I believe it would look amazing as on a sea-island table!?
silicon can be thinned with mineral spirits it slows the curing time a little bit but if you wanted to self level or fill in little gaps it's the way to go
Hi, about the gloss medium gel, I've used Liquitex Gloss Super Heavy Gel to create my waves. Since it's not thick as I though it would be, I had to add to many thin layers on top of each other. I didn't have the patience to let each layer to fully dry (3 or 4 days at least) so I added a new layer every two days. But now it's been more than 10 days and the lower layers are still white. I am starting to think I made a mistake. Is it gonna become clear in weeks or months to come or is it gonna stay like that white and cloudy? Should I use a needle or a hobby drill to make tiny hole through the lower layers to allow them to "breath" and dry? I also try some of Woodland Scenics water effect solutions and I only encounter problems. So never again I will buy Woodland Scenics products. Thank you!
you rock... roll for initiative heheheh
Silicone tubes, clear and white, are about 3USD from harbor freight. I will probably start with silicone when I start building my BB63.
Hi again, for the next phase of my project, to create waves, I would like to try clear silicone instead of gloss medium gel. But is it compatible with EnviroTex Lite? Because that's what I used to create my water feature (after getting so much issues with Woodland Scenics Realistic Water). Thank you!
I used Woodland water effects to put some motion on my rcreek flowing into the lake. Like you I did not want to wait for wver to dr. I Borrowed one of my wifes curl maker hair blow dryer./ I went over theWater effects for 20 min. and after 3 hours all was dry .
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Doing a jungle river. Should I paint the base first befor adding silicone. And will silicone hold an acrillack paint. Thank you.
I'm in desperate need for a frozen lake and stream. I think your idea of mod podge and an additive was good. But how about a whole tape on it? Thanx!
try heating the sylocan under a lamp. should help some
If you get Type 1 silicone clear and mix with a bit of water, it'll dry in a couple mins. Thickness won't matter for dry time. The water hardens it.
Huzzah,, best of news .
Might it help with the PVA glue to hit it with a hair dryer so as to skin it over a bit and help keep the shape?